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HR 1: Election Reform Bill
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:40 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 8:50 AM
SECOND
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Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Anybody with a below average IQ probably shouldn't vote. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 9:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: How will you measure who is too stupid to vote?
Quote:If You’re So Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich? looks at the idea that personality, not intelligence, has a larger effect on success than IQ.
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 10:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Hell...
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:43 PM
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Hell...6ix, you perfectly encapsulated how Trumptards think small. Fifty years ago, the few surviving Trumptards I knew from high school all complained that Apollo Moon landings (controlled by Johnson Space Center in Houston) were a waste of money. The Superconducting Super Collider being built in Texas? According to Trumptards, it was another waste of money. You Trumptards are not psychologically ready to build projects bigger than your tiny needs. Plus, 6ix, you once again beautifully wrote about your superiority complex, a syndrome that Trumptards are afflicted with.
Tuesday, June 1, 2021 11:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Everything you've ever posted about yourself is a lie. I'm not ambitious. I don't have to be. I'm completely content just being awesome. It really sucks knowing how unfulfilling your life is, and how you put such a high value on meaningless wealth that you'll never accumulate. I actually feel sad for you.
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 1:28 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally bot posted: Texas Republicans have a simple reason for the broad changes they have proposed to tighten the rules on who can vote when and how: It's the only way to combat rampant election fraud. Trump and his legal team filed dozens of cases -- in state and federal courts -- alleging widespread voter fraud.
Quote: In the 2016 presidential election, there were a total of four documented cases of voter fraud out of more than 135 million votes cast. In a database of all types of election fraud, there have been 491 cases of reported absentee-ballot fraud since 2000. Against all of that evidence and data is, well, not much other than Trump's wild accusations and the occasional anecdotal story about how some guy voted twice for Trump.
Quote: So why are Republicans across the country -- 14 states have passed almost two dozen laws aimed at restricting voting access Restoring Election integrity, security, confidence, honesty -- pushing so hard on this issue .... Republican leaders have acknowledged that more low-information, illegal, fraudulent, criminal, brainwashed, delusional, multiple voters voting is bad for them. In 2019, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell dismissed the idea of a making Election Day a holiday as a "power grab" by Democrats.
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 7:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: That's it. That's the ticket.
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:09 AM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Georgia and Arizona are already working on their own voting reform bills. The Constitution clearly gives states the right to decide how to conduct their voting. I would expect to see a Supreme Court challenge to many aspects of HR1. THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Georgia and Arizona are already working on their own voting reform bills. The Constitution clearly gives states the right to decide how to conduct their voting. I would expect to see a Supreme Court challenge to many aspects of HR1. THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love. T
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:07 AM
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: I am happy for you
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Anybody keeping count how many time's Second's used that word? Try using that word on Twitter, buddy. I'm sure once you let them know that you're an "ally" that it will be cool.
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: It is really about what Trump said
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 3:24 PM
Wednesday, June 2, 2021 4:47 PM
Thursday, June 3, 2021 11:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Democrats lost in 2020.
Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:25 PM
Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Democrats lost in 2020. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Thursday, June 3, 2021 11:19 PM
Sunday, June 6, 2021 8:50 AM
Sunday, June 6, 2021 9:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Donald Trump’s speech before the North Carolina Republican Party Saturday night was a reminder of the danger the former President poses as he undermines America’s election system.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 10:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Donald Trump’s speech before the North Carolina Republican Party Saturday night was a reminder of the danger the former President poses as he undermines America’s election system. Translation: Censoring him online isn't enough. He must be deleted. Seriously dude. Get out of my country. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 10:50 AM
Sunday, June 6, 2021 5:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: He never posted on his blog that he was going to be reinstated in August. An since social media censored him, he's not saying it there either. Your sources are full of shit.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 5:43 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Manchin to Vote Against Democrats’ Sweeping Election Bill By Allen Zhong June 6, 2021 Updated: June 6, 2021 Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said he will vote against a sweeping election reform bill pushed by his Democrat colleagues, also known as the For The People Act, or S.1, saying forcing it through via the partisan reconciliation process will further deepen divisions. “I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy, and for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act,” he wrote in home-state newspaper The Charleston Gazette-Mail. Manchin also reaffirmed that he will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster. He criticized Democrats and Republicans for politicizing election reform to seek partisan advantage and urged both sides to work along to find a path forward. He suggested that the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act is a good starting point to gain bipartisan support for election reform. The senator also expressed concern over the trend of vying for absolute power over cooperation inside the Beltway. “It has been said by much wiser people than me that absolute power corrupts absolutely,” he wrote. “Well, what I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely.” After a contentious 2020 election, a number of states started election reform legislature in various forms to guarantee election integrity. However, Democrats in Washington are aggressively pushing one-sided election reforms in an attempt to codify into law some operations conducted during the last presidential election at the federal level in the For The People Act. The act would federalize components of the election system, eliminating nearly all requirements for photo identification, require states to offer 15 days of early voting, allow “no-excuse” absentee balloting, require states to implement a system of automatic voter registration, and allow same-day registration on any day voting is allowed. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Democrat colleagues in a memorandum that he will force a Senate vote on the sweeping election reform bill “that is essential to defending our democracy, reducing the influence of dark money and powerful special interests, and stopping the wave of Republican voter suppression happening in states across the country.” The bill is expected to get little, if any, support from the Republican side. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has promised to block the bill, which he characterizes as undue government overreach into state election systems. He said no GOP senators support it. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) has described the bill as “a massive federal takeover of elections.” Manchin’s objection will dim Democrats’ hope of passing it in the Senate, which is split 50-50, even without the filibuster. The Epoch Times reached out to Schumer’s officer for comment. The House version of the For The People Act, H.R. 1, was passed in March. All Republicans and one Democrat, Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), voted against the bill. Critics have promised to bring a flood of lawsuits if it’s passed by the Senate and signed into law by President Joe Biden. “There are a number of constitutional infirmities and deficiencies that stem from its treatment of presidential and congressional elections identically, even though Congress has vastly reduced powers to regulate presidential elections under the Constitution,” Jason Snead, executive director of the Honest Elections Project, told reporters. The Associated Press contributed to the report.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 6:44 PM
Sunday, June 6, 2021 6:47 PM
Sunday, June 6, 2021 7:38 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I hope he hangs tough. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 7:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I hope he hangs tough.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 8:42 PM
Sunday, June 6, 2021 9:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: By maintaining the filibuster, Manchin a is REQUIRING the majority - whoever that is- to negotiate with the minority. Without it, the majority- whoever that is- can ramrod thru anything they want. Without negotiating. Be careful what you wish for, especially when you're filled with hate, SECONDRATE. Hate warps logic and causes bad decisions. The Dems will be in the minority at some point, and then they could be hoist on their own petard.
Sunday, June 6, 2021 10:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: By maintaining the filibuster, Manchin a is REQUIRING the majority - whoever that is- to negotiate with the minority. Without it, the majority- whoever that is- can ramrod thru anything they want. Without negotiating. Be careful what you wish for, especially when you're filled with hate, SECONDRATE. Hate warps logic and causes bad decisions. The Dems will be in the minority at some point, and then they could be hoist on their own petard. SECONDRATE: Signym, you gave a perfect example of up is down with your explanation of the filibuster.
Quote: SECONDRATE: blah blah blah while I attempt to conflate declarations of war with a naked Democrat power grab
Sunday, June 6, 2021 11:46 PM
Monday, June 7, 2021 1:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: WHEW! Quote: Manchin to Vote Against Democrats’ Sweeping Election Bill By Allen Zhong June 6, 2021 Updated: June 6, 2021 Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said he will vote against a sweeping election reform bill pushed by his Democrat colleagues, also known as the For The People Act, or S.1, saying forcing it through via the partisan reconciliation process will further deepen divisions. “I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy, and for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act,” he wrote in home-state newspaper The Charleston Gazette-Mail. Manchin also reaffirmed that he will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster. He criticized Democrats and Republicans for politicizing election reform to seek partisan advantage and urged both sides to work along to find a path forward. He suggested that the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act is a good starting point to gain bipartisan support for election reform. The senator also expressed concern over the trend of vying for absolute power over cooperation inside the Beltway. “It has been said by much wiser people than me that absolute power corrupts absolutely,” he wrote. “Well, what I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely.” After a contentious 2020 election, a number of states started election reform legislature in various forms to guarantee election integrity. However, Democrats in Washington are aggressively pushing one-sided election reforms in an attempt to codify into law some operations conducted during the last presidential election at the federal level in the For The People Act. The act would federalize components of the election system, eliminating nearly all requirements for photo identification, require states to offer 15 days of early voting, allow “no-excuse” absentee balloting, require states to implement a system of automatic voter registration, and allow same-day registration on any day voting is allowed. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Democrat colleagues in a memorandum that he will force a Senate vote on the sweeping election reform bill “that is essential to defending our democracy, reducing the influence of dark money and powerful special interests, and stopping the wave of Republican voter suppression happening in states across the country.” The bill is expected to get little, if any, support from the Republican side. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has promised to block the bill, which he characterizes as undue government overreach into state election systems. He said no GOP senators support it. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) has described the bill as “a massive federal takeover of elections.” Manchin’s objection will dim Democrats’ hope of passing it in the Senate, which is split 50-50, even without the filibuster. The Epoch Times reached out to Schumer’s officer for comment. The House version of the For The People Act, H.R. 1, was passed in March. All Republicans and one Democrat, Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), voted against the bill. Critics have promised to bring a flood of lawsuits if it’s passed by the Senate and signed into law by President Joe Biden. “There are a number of constitutional infirmities and deficiencies that stem from its treatment of presidential and congressional elections identically, even though Congress has vastly reduced powers to regulate presidential elections under the Constitution,” Jason Snead, executive director of the Honest Elections Project, told reporters. The Associated Press contributed to the report. https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/manchin-to-vote-against-democrats-sweeping-election-bill-warns-danger-of-power-grab_3846745.html
Monday, June 7, 2021 2:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's like talking to a child. A really dumb child. It's a rare occasion that I can't visualize myself in somebody else's shoes, but after years of dealing with Second I've finally realized that my imagination is not capable of allowing myself even pretend for a moment to be as stupid as you'd need to be to hold a conversation with him. I'd honestly get much further trying to have a conversation with somebody who only speaks Chinese without an interpreter in the room. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
Monday, June 7, 2021 7:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: When does one negotiate? When faced with an opponent of approximately equal power. But in a system of rabid partisanship, when all party members vote in lock step, there is no approximate equal power, no negotiation, there is only the majority and the minority.
Monday, June 7, 2021 7:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes. It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money.
Monday, June 7, 2021 8:24 AM
Monday, June 7, 2021 9:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: SLOPPY, not since the very founding of this country have we ever had "democratically elected government". And once again you (along with THUGGER) demonstrate how much you hate the Constitution, and by extension, the US of A.
Monday, June 7, 2021 9:50 AM
Quote:SIGNYM: SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes. It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money. SECONDRATE: One thing I am confident of is that Trumptards can't imagine the future they unthinkingly create. I have seen their astonished look when the world crashes down on their heads. I saw that look when Trump lost. They were certain they had it all figured out! Here are a few paragraphs out of a much longer essay from Timothy Snyder about America's future, which will come crashing down on all our heads ... blah blah blah
Monday, June 7, 2021 10:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Dood, Trump was in office for four years. FOUR YEARS. What our nation is suffering from is a construct many DECADES in the making. It took oligarchs and politicians [of both parties] DECADES to get us where we are today. And it will take DECADES to get us out of the mess that we're in. This is not "Trump's" fault nor "Trumptards'" fault, it is the oligarchs' fault. YOUR fault. We can't begin to fix our problems until we recognize what they are and who created them. Your blame-shifting is just delaying that moment.
Monday, June 7, 2021 10:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's like talking to a child. A really dumb child. It's a rare occasion that I can't visualize myself in somebody else's shoes, but after years of dealing with Second I've finally realized that my imagination is not capable of allowing myself even pretend for a moment to be as stupid as you'd need to be to hold a conversation with him. I'd honestly get much further trying to have a conversation with somebody who only speaks Chinese without an interpreter in the room. -------------------------------------------------- Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality. SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes. It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Monday, June 7, 2021 2:54 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: Dood, Trump was in office for four years. FOUR YEARS. What our nation is suffering from is a construct many DECADES in the making. It took oligarchs and politicians [of both parties] DECADES to get us where we are today. And it will take DECADES to get us out of the mess that we're in. This is not "Trump's" fault nor "Trumptards'" fault, it is the oligarchs' fault. YOUR fault. We can't begin to fix our problems until we recognize what they are and who created them. Your blame-shifting is just delaying that moment. SECONDRATE: The problem is not the system.
Quote: SECONDRATE: It has always been Americans who can't think straight when placed under even the slightest pressure to make a proper decision about an important problem.
Monday, June 7, 2021 6:14 PM
Monday, June 7, 2021 10:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Also, I couldn't help but notice that've you've deliberately dragged the thread off-topic many times already, hoping that nobody will notice that the "election reform bill" is a naked Democrat power-grab which should be killed. And if Manchin retains his principled stand, it will be. I'm sure the DNC is putting lots of pressure on him and also offering plum committee assignments and/or money for his state. His is the single vote standing in the way of the DNC's lust for absolute power.
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