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Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

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Friday, May 14, 2021 7:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
• • Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

• • Trump has committed many felonies. The evidence is overwhelming.

• • As I tell my friends regarding all manner of topics, don’t jump to the end. Let things play out.
And yet, unlike your claims that you'll wait for things to run their course, you've already got him convicted and jailed in your mind. You said so yourself as a matter of fact:
"Trump has committed many felonies."
"Trump Going to Jail.".

There's no such thing with you as the American value of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. You just can't wait for the actual, legal, US justice system to work its way to a conclusion before you lynch him.

You are one of the most anti-American people here.


And you can't quit your obsessive hate because your mind is diseased.


I predict you'll be here, harping about Trump, no matter what happens, until this website shuts down.

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Friday, May 14, 2021 8:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm really touched that you guys have been thinking about me all day.

I live right under Trump's penthouse in your brains, rent free.
74,223,369 insane Americans would be a manageable problem because they are disorganized and they could be institutionalized if they walked the streets, defecating on lawns, while out of their minds. Worse than being insane, there could be as many as 74,223,369 Trumptards, an approximate number because we can't be sure how many are really followers of Trump, but they could become as big and organized a problem as 74,223,369 Scientologists, followers of L. Ron Hubbard, plotting coup d'état. At least L. Ron Hubbard is dead, so he can't be giving orders, unlike Trump. Being organized and believing crazy ideas makes Trumptards a particularly extreme danger for America.

2020 National Popular Vote Tracker
https://cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker
74,223,369 votes (46.9%) for Trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Yup. Trump got more votes for President than any person who ever ran for the job in 2020.

Biden's* don't count, because fraud mail-in election was a fraud.

And you're an idiot.



--------------------------------------------------

Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Monday, May 17, 2021 12:34 PM

THG


Palm Beach County prosecutor says Gov. Ron DeSantis can't stop Trump from getting extradited to New York if he's indicted

Palm Beach County's top prosecutor threw cold water on the suggestion that Gov. Ron DeSantis could unilaterally block former President Donald Trump from getting extradited to New York to face potential criminal charges.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/palm-beach-county-prosecutor-s
ays-gov-ron-desantis-can-t-stop-trump-from-getting-extradited-to-new-york-if-he-s-indicted/ar-BB1gPjzB?ocid=msedgntp





This is real and it’s happening. I cannot wait to say I told you so, so I’ll say it now. I told you so. I called it four years ago. Just as I called his first impeachment almost two years before it happened.

Not because I’m brilliant but because the facts made it impossible to miss. All anyone had to do was be willing to see the truth.

tick tock tick tock

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Monday, May 17, 2021 12:52 PM

THG


Signs grow of Trump subpoenas and indictments in New York and Georgia

Legal experts are picking up “signals” that the Trump team is bracing for subpoenas or indictments in the New York City and Georgia investigations into the former president.

Washington, D.C.-based public interest lawyer John Banzhaf, who prompted the election interference investigation in Georgia, said the case is heating up. He noted that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is struggling for documents from Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who is said to be “lawyering up.”

Meanwhile, Willis has hired a special prosecutor who had a role in the Whitewater case against former President Bill Clinton.

Banzhaf also noted that in New York, Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has added a forensic accountant in his investigation of old Trump financial deals and taxes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/signs-grow-of-trump-subpoenas-
and-indictments-in-new-york-and-georgia/ar-BB1gPhoa?ocid=msedgntp



I'm so happy I could drop a log.


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Monday, May 17, 2021 1:17 PM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
• • Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

• • Trump has committed many felonies. The evidence is overwhelming.

• • As I tell my friends regarding all manner of topics, don’t jump to the end. Let things play out.
And yet, unlike your claims that you'll wait for things to run their course, you've already got him convicted and jailed in your mind. You said so yourself as a matter of fact:
"Trump has committed many felonies."
"Trump Going to Jail.".

There's no such thing with you as the American value of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. You just can't wait for the actual, legal, US justice system to work its way to a conclusion before you lynch him.

You are one of the most anti-American people here.

And you can't quit your obsessive hate because your mind is diseased.

I predict you'll be here, harping about Trump, no matter what happens, until this website shuts down.




Says Polish Russian Collaborator kiki, who has been proclaiming Trumps innocence and deflecting away from the truth on his behalf, since day one. I know the American way and you obviously do not. I am entitled to my own opinion comrade. I am not a court of law and therefore not held to the same standard.

My opinion is based on what has come out in the press and also during his two impeachments. Not on the fake news Russian propaganda bullshit your opinions are based on.

I’ll also take a moment to say, I keep getting proven right again and again and predict that will continue. That comrade, is what you have to look forward to. After years of you claiming his innocence, you’re being shown to be what I have described you to be for years.

tick tock kiki or as you like to say, tic tac

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Monday, May 17, 2021 10:52 PM

THG


This has been a really fun day.

T


Trump legal bombshell? 45 'might be implicated' in Giuliani probe





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Monday, May 17, 2021 11:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
• • Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

• • Trump has committed many felonies. The evidence is overwhelming.

• • As I tell my friends regarding all manner of topics, don’t jump to the end. Let things play out.
And yet, unlike your claims that you'll wait for things to run their course, you've already got him convicted and jailed in your mind. You said so yourself as a matter of fact:
IN YOUR OWN WORDS, TRUMP IS ALREADY GUILTY AND WILL BE GOING TO JAIL.
"Trump has committed many felonies."
"Trump Going to Jail.".

There's no such thing with you as the American value of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. WHY WAIT FOR A TRIAL AND A CONVICTION IN AN AMERICAN COURT OF LAW? You really can't wait for that, can you? YOU HAVE NO USE FOR THE AMERICAN VALUES IN THE AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

You are one of the most anti-American people here.

And you can't quit your obsessive hate because your mind is diseased.

I predict you'll be here, harping about Trump, no matter what happens, until this website shuts down.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 7:59 AM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
• • Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

• • Trump has committed many felonies. The evidence is overwhelming.

• • As I tell my friends regarding all manner of topics, don’t jump to the end. Let things play out.
And yet, unlike your claims that you'll wait for things to run their course, you've already got him convicted and jailed in your mind. You said so yourself as a matter of fact:
IN YOUR OWN WORDS, TRUMP IS ALREADY GUILTY AND WILL BE GOING TO JAIL.
"Trump has committed many felonies."
"Trump Going to Jail.".

There's no such thing with you as the American value of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. WHY WAIT FOR A TRIAL AND A CONVICTION IN AN AMERICAN COURT OF LAW? You really can't wait for that, can you? YOU HAVE NO USE FOR THE AMERICAN VALUES IN THE AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

You are one of the most anti-American people here.

And you can't quit your obsessive hate because your mind is diseased.

I predict you'll be here, harping about Trump, no matter what happens, until this website shuts down.


Says Polish Russian Collaborator kiki, who has been proclaiming Trumps innocence and deflecting away from the truth on his behalf, since day one. I know the American way and you obviously do not. I am entitled to my own opinion comrade. I am not a court of law and therefore not held to the same standard.

My opinion is based on what has come out in the press and also during his two impeachments. Not on the fake news Russian propaganda bullshit your opinions are based on.

I’ll also take a moment to say, I keep getting proven right again and again and predict that will continue. That comrade, is what you have to look forward to. After years of you claiming his innocence, you’re being shown to be what I have described you to be for years.

tick tock kiki or as you like to say, tic tac

T


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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:58 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

There's no such thing with you as the American value of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. WHY WAIT FOR A TRIAL AND A CONVICTION IN AN AMERICAN COURT OF LAW? You really can't wait for that, can you? YOU HAVE NO USE FOR THE AMERICAN VALUES IN THE AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

You are one of the most anti-American people here.
Releasing a President's tax return is an American value. Trump has NOT released his because he would be proving his crimes and tax cheating. Check for yourself: www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-presidents-and-ca
ndidates/

Meanwhile, President Joe Biden has released his tax returns. The release of his financial records, as well as those of Vice President Kamala Harris, marks the return of a White House tradition defied by former President Donald Trump during the 45th president's term in office.
www.npr.org/2021/05/17/997758204/biden-harris-release-tax-returns-in-r
eturn-to-tradition

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/2021.05.17-POTUS
-Redacted-2020-Federal-and-State-Returns.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:48 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



When releasing a president's tax return becomes LAW - let me know.

Otherwise, go suck yourself.

Sociopath.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:54 AM

THG


SECOND I think you've pissed off kiki. The trolls here get pissed easily because their points of view are dismantled with ease and shown to be born out of ignorance.


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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



THUGGER, if you were smarter you'd be a sociopath. As it is, you're a sad joke.

BTW, did I really piss YOU off? And is that why you're trolling the Garden thread - again? Just wondering. Because nothing says you're feeling completely ignored and frustrated like when you carry your widdle hurt feelings all around the place, trying to get everyone pissed off at you.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:51 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

When releasing a president's tax return becomes LAW - let me know.

Otherwise, go suck yourself.

Sociopath.
Does this follow from your constant reiteration that Trump is innocent until proven guilty? You are probably unaware that tax collection in America is an honor system where the rich tell the government how much will be paid and the government can only know what the rich are willing to tell it. If the rich are dishonorable, Trump for one example, the guy who keeps tax returns a secret, the rich don't pay and the government will have to find some convoluted way to roughly estimate how much is owed. And then the government has to try to prove it, but without any cooperation from the dishonorable rich tax scofflaw.

The U.S. government is losing some $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year and needs more and consistent Internal Revenue Service funding to go after tax cheats, IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig said on Tuesday.
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-irs/irs-chief-says-1-trillion-
in-taxes-goes-uncollected-every-year-idUSKBN2C0255

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:01 PM

THG


Agreed two

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:06 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



And now you want to lynch Trump for violating an "American VALUE", SLOPPY?

When it gets to be a LAW, maybe it'll be relevant to the topic "Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail".

Otherwise - go suck yourself.

Sociopath.

SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 5:16 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And now you want to lynch Trump for violating an "American VALUE", SLOPPY?

When it gets to be a LAW, maybe it'll be relevant to the topic "Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail".
The Federal tax system depends on the richest tax payers being honorable. (Poorer tax payers are kept in line by their employer's accountant being honest when filing the W-2 form.) If dishonorable, a rich tax payer, with an accountant who is very flexible about verifying numbers from his rich client, can set whatever tax he wants to pay. In Trump's case, he sets his Federal taxes at zero to $750 for the last 15 years. The Federal government has not yet been able to crack either Trump or the accountant, so Trump keeps paying between zero and $750 per year. It's rather ludicrous, but no more than discussing facts with 1kiki or Signym. Those two will do with facts exactly what Trump does with his taxes, set the facts to whatever they want. Who will stop Trump, Signym or 1kiki? At least so far, nobody will.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 1:01 AM

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"We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA. We have no additional comment."

www.cnbc.com/2021/05/19/new-york-attorney-general-says-the-trump-organ
ization-is-being-investigated-in-a-criminal-capacity.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 5:14 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Let me know when Trump's trial starts ... and he gets convicted ... and goes to jail.

Otherwise - all you have is just so much hot shit.

Sociopath.


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:49 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Let me know when Trump's trial starts ... and he gets convicted ... and goes to jail.

Otherwise - all you have is just so much hot shit.

Sociopath.
Substitute the words Donald Trump for Robert Durst and the following statement, yesterday, from a prosecutor fits Trump perfectly: “One of the hallmarks of Bob Durst is that despite all the lies he tells, he doesn’t take or use the mental energy to even remember them because his life has been spent privileged in getting away with whatever he wants,” Lewin said. “The evidence is going to show that’s going to be his undoing in a lot of ways in all three of these cases.”

www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-05-18/durst-jurors-to-get-refresh
er-in-deaths-tied-to-millionaire

Robert Durst's crime was committed in 2000. That's right, 21 years ago, but the trial only started yesterday. Trump's trial could take 21 years to get started, too.

We might have a very long wait for justice being delivered to Trump because the American system of justice moves extremely slowly when the defendant is as wealthy as Trump or Robert Durst and can afford the very best defense lawyers.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 9:05 AM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And now you want to lynch Trump for violating an "American VALUE", SLOPPY?

When it gets to be a LAW, maybe it'll be relevant to the topic "Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail".

Otherwise - go suck yourself.

Sociopath.



Trump Now Under Criminal Investigation by NY Attorney General

On Tuesday, New York State Attorney General Letitia James' office announced that it has formally joined the New York City civil investigation into disgraced former president Donald Trump's business dealings. As a result, the investigation now has an unspecified "criminal capacity," James' spokesperson said.

"We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/trump-now-under-criminal-investigati
on-by-ny-attorney-general/ar-BB1gT47a?ocid=msedgntp


Poor Kiki SECOND. She is pretending the law is going after Trump for not releasing his taxes when he became president; too funny. The rest of us know it’s what’s in his taxes prosecutors wants to see. They have a lot of evidence showing he broke the law. Evidence provided by his own attorney. He is looking at jail time.

Remember, this is not the only investigation looking into him. Things keeps getting worse for Trump, never better.

tick tock Kiki

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 9:46 AM

THG


Michael Cohen tweeted a photoshopped picture of Trump behind bars after New York prosecutors announced a criminal investigation into Trump Organization

Michael Cohen tweeted a doctored image appearing to show his former boss, Donald Trump, in jail.

It was a response to the New York AG's announcement that the Trump Org. faces a criminal probe.

Cohen is Trump's former lawyer and fixer. He started cooperating with prosecutors in 2018.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-cohen-tweeted-a-photos
hopped-picture-of-trump-behind-bars-after-new-york-prosecutors-announced-a-criminal-investigation-into-trump-organization/ar-BB1gTReg?ocid=msedgntp


Poor donnie...


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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:24 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Poor Kiki SECOND. She is pretending the law is going after Trump for not releasing his taxes when he became president; too funny. The rest of us know it’s what’s in his taxes prosecutors wants to see. They have a lot of evidence showing he broke the law. Evidence provided by his own attorney. He is looking at jail time.

Remember, this is not the only investigation looking into him. Things keeps getting worse for Trump, never better.

tick tock Kiki

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Trump could have gotten swift, almost instantaneous, punishment if 12 Republican Senators who said he was guilty had voted to convict, but didn’t only because they were afraid. Instead, Trump's punishment is now up to the courts, which are notoriously slow to act. The courts are so slow that punishment for fatso Trump may ultimately come after he is dead from obesity.

Seven Republican Senators voted to convict Trump. Twelve more Republican Senators, while voting against conviction because Trump was no longer president, explicitly deplored his behavior or assigned him some blame for the attack.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210219033347/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/02/senate-awful-reasons-acquitting-trump.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:13 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Here's a quiz to see if you're American:

Trump is
1) innocent
2) guilty.



SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:36 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:


Here's a quiz to see if you're American:

Trump is
1) innocent
2) guilty.
You forgot to mention what Trump is innocent/guilty of. Fifty seven Senators voted that Trump was guilty as charged for Incitement of Insurrection. In the House of Representatives, 232 voted that Trump was guilty. Trump is guilty but escaped punishment only because 12 Republican Senators were fearful of what would happen to their political careers if they punished Trump for incitement of insurrection. 1kiki, don't make the argument that a criminal is not guilty if not punished. Billions of crimes go unpunished, but that doesn't mean the crimes never happened and nobody was guilty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:45 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



You're not an American. The correct answer is 1) innocent.



Trump is legally innocent of anything and everything, no matter what you have in your putrid imagination, until he's proven guilty in a court of law.


BTW, as has been pointed out numerous times, impeachment is NOT a legal trial, it's a political act. There are no criminal laws, rules of evidence, or legal rights that apply during an impeachment. That's why I'm content to see whatever is going on now in the hands of the US justice system with its rights and requirements, and not the political clown show in Congress.




SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:12 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

You're not an American. The correct answer is 1) innocent.

Trump is legally innocent of anything and everything, no matter what you have in your putrid imagination, until he's proven guilty in a court of law.


BTW, as has been pointed out numerous times, impeachment is NOT a legal trial, it's a political act. There are no criminal laws, rules of evidence, or legal rights that apply during an impeachment. That's why I'm content to see whatever is going on now in the hands of the US justice system with its rights and requirements, and not the political clown show in Congress.
1kiki, you are crazy. No wonder you have a tough time staying in the middle class. The real clown show is not the Senate but the ludicrous American court system, which is notorious for being slow, erratic, and even a total failure when a billionaire defendant can outspend the public prosecution by a ratio of 1,000 to 1. Trump was found guilty, but was not punished by the Senate. Trump could have gone directly from the floor of the Senate to a term in a federal prison for sedition, but 12 GOP Senators were afraid to punish Trump because of what would happen to the Senators, not to Trump, when the Senators returned to their home states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition#United_States

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I can't believe these boobs are STILL posting about Trump!

DOODS - Trump was trying to undo Obama's foreign policy mistake of pissing off Russia and China at the same time. Trump was trying to split Russia from China by being levle-headed with Russia and applying maximum pressure on China. But because the tankbrain neocons in DC thought it wouldbe a good idea to use Russia as a bogeyman (RUSSIA! COLLUSION!) Trump never got to implement that policy.

Now, Russia and China have an .actual.military.alliance and we are in a 100% no-holds-barred arms race with Russia on the technological front, and an arms race with China in the production aspect.

And both China AND Russia are pissed off together at us, and coordinating their economic, financial, politcal, cyber, and military strategies.

Meanwhile, the USA and the EU have been economically crippled by Covid-19, don't produce much anymore (except Germany) and are riven by identitarian strife and political correctness.

I just don't see how Biden* even recognizes what's going on, and how he can fix our (many) problems. He* thinks* that if he throws some money to the climate change faction and some money to the gender/race faction he can skate thru politically, but he can't bc factionalism and debt are a big part of the problem, not solutions!

Anyway, you keep bagging on Trump while the USA goes over a cliff. I'm sure we'll all have a happy landing.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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I can't believe these boobs are STILL posting about Trump!

DOODS - Trump was trying to undo Obama's foreign policy mistake of pissing off Russia and China at the same time.
Who believes Trump is capable of negotiating? We all saw what Trump did with North Korea because it was out in public. What a public fiasco Trump created, but publicity is exactly what North Korea wanted. China and Russia arranged Trump's "negotiations" with China and Russia, keeping those meetings secretive. I seriously doubt Trump was able to convince either country to change their minds in the slightest. Trump had the same failure in private with them as he had in public with North Korea. Trump is crazy and stupid; all competent foreign leaders knew that about Trump. Too bad Trumptards can't figure out what a moron Trump is, probably because Trumptards believe him when he brags about being a genius, the only one who can fix it.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




SLOPPY (and THUGGER) you're not American. The correct answer is 1) innocent.

Trump is legally innocent of anything and everything, no matter what you have in your putrid imaginations, until he's proven guilty *** IN A COURT OF LAW ***


BTW, as has been pointed out numerous times, impeachment is NOT a legal trial, it's a political act. There are no criminal indictments based on criminal laws, rules of evidence, or legal rights that apply during an impeachment. There's no judge, and no jury of peers. There's no criminal penalties that apply.

And I'm content to see that whatever is going on now is in the hands of the US justice system with its rights and requirements, and not the political clown show in Congress.


As far as the US legal justice system, apparently SLOPPY, you think that a lynch mob is a better idea. You are really not an American.



SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 1:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
SIGNYM:
I can't believe these boobs are STILL posting about Trump!

DOODS - Trump was trying to undo Obama's foreign policy mistake of pissing off Russia and China at the same time.

SECONDRATE: Who believes Trump is capable of negotiating? We all saw what Trump did with North Korea because it was out in public.
For all of his "smooth talk" it was Obama and his crew of happy camper neocons who got us into this mess, first by lying in the Security Council and going on to destroy Libya, then by attempting to overturn the Syrian government and threatening the Russian base there, overturning the government in Kiev (and attempting to take over Sevastopol)... and THEN deciding to "pivot to Asia".

And his genius plan of throwing money at banks? Occupy, anyone?

But hey! He was half black, and all about gender equity, so that's worth something, right?

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:


SLOPPY (and THUGGER) you're not American. The correct answer is 1) innocent.

Trump is legally innocent of anything and everything, no matter what you have in your putrid imaginations, until he's proven guilty *** IN A COURT OF LAW ***


BTW, as has been pointed out numerous times, impeachment is NOT a legal trial, it's a political act. There are no criminal indictments based on criminal laws, rules of evidence, or legal rights that apply during an impeachment. There's no judge, and no jury of peers. There's no criminal penalties that apply.

And I'm content to see that whatever is going on now is in the hands of the US justice system with its rights and requirements, and not the political clown show in Congress.

As far as the US legal justice system, apparently SLOPPY, you think that a lynch mob is a better idea. You are really not an American.
Although Congress has not declared war since 1942, Congress does NOT need to go to some Federal Court and ask permission from a judge to bomb a country off the face of the Earth. You might not understand that, but it is true. You might not understand that Congress could have locked up Trump without going to court, but it is true. President Biden would have provided the muscle to arrest Trump, if Congress asked, and as a reminder, without going to a Federal judge. A majority of both houses of Congress did declare Trump guilty. The same number in Congress, or fewer, could declare war on Russia or China and no judge could stop that war. Or a war on Trump. Congress has done it before against American citizens, but much like declaring international warfare, Congress hasn't done it lately.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress-subpoena-explainer/expla
iner-congress-no-longer-runs-a-jail-so-just-how-powerful-are-its-subpoenas-idUSKCN1S02K8

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Well, I already know you're a sociopath, SLOPPY. And I know you're not American. Can you even read English? It appears you can't:

FROM YOU LINK:
Quote:
The high court has said Congress is not a law enforcement agency


In other words, Congress does not have the power to investigate and arrest someone on criminal charges, or to refer them for prosecution to a court of law.

And Trump is legally innocent of anything and everything, no matter what you have in your putrid imaginations, until he's proven guilty *** IN A COURT OF LAW ***

'INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW' IS A FOUNDATIONAL AMERICAN CONCEPT. That's why I don't 'defend' Trump. Until proven otherwise, he's innocent. He was innocent then despite all your bullshit, and he's still innocent now despite all your bullshit. And he'll remain innocent despite all your bullshit up until he's convicted in a court. No I'm not 'defending' Trump. What I ** AM ** defending are my American values.


BTW, as has been pointed out numerous times, impeachment is NOT a legal trial, it's a political act. There are no criminal indictments based on criminal laws, rules of evidence, or legal rights that apply during an impeachment. There's no judge, and no jury of peers. There's no criminal penalties that apply.

And I'm content to see that whatever is going on now is in the hands of the US justice system with its rights and requirements, and not the political clown show in Congress.

As far as the US legal justice system, apparently SLOPPY, you think that a lynch mob is a better idea. You are really not an American.


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... um... Not going to read the garbage in here while I was gone.

Just popping in to say that Trump will be fine.



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Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

'INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW' IS A FOUNDATIONAL AMERICAN CONCEPT. That's why I don't 'defend' Trump. Until proven otherwise, he's innocent. He was innocent then despite all your bullshit, and he's still innocent now despite all your bullshit. And he'll remain innocent despite all your bullshit up until he's convicted in a court. No I'm not 'defending' Trump. What I ** AM ** defending are my American values.
The correct form used by judges (not Trumptards) is Presumed innocent in a court of law until proven guilty. The form Trumptards use is Innocent until proven guilty. Even when proven guilty in court, Trumptards will claim Trump is still innocent because he is appealing the decision to a higher court, seeking a reversal of the conviction. Trump actually did exactly that when he went to the Supreme Court twice to prevent New York from looking at his tax returns.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-rejected-as-supreme-co
urt-lets-prosecutor-get-tax-records

Not that 1kiki can understand, but the tax records sought by New York go back to 2010. The records show Trump did not pay the taxes he owed. He was a tax cheat back in 2010, but a court won't punish him until after the extremely long legal process runs to completion in about the year 2035. Was Trump innocent of tax cheating from 2010 until 2035? No. By the way, 1kiki, insisting that Trump is innocent doesn't make him innocent. All you are doing is saying over and over that you believe he is innocent until his final appeal of a conviction is rejected by the Supreme Court about 25 years after he committed the crime of tax cheating. Trump was guilty when he signed the tax return in 2010, but he will be "presumed innocent" by fantasists until 2035.

Rough analogy to breakthrough 1kiki's nonsense: a murderer is guilty on the day his victim dies, but is "presumed innocent" until the day he is executed because the Innocence Project may come to the rescue and get the prisoner off of death row.
https://innocenceproject.org/

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:53 PM

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Oh my god dude. Get over it.

I want to see your tax returns bitch.

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Oh my god dude. Get over it.

I want to see your tax returns bitch.

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Unlike Trump, I have a huge family looking over my shoulder who keep me from cheating. Trump also has a huge family, including the ghost of his tax cheating father, but they want him to cheat. Rich people paying taxes runs on an honor system and some have no honor.

Donald Trump ‘a bad businessman or a tax cheat – probably both’, say accountants
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/28/donald-trump-a-bad-businessman
-or-a-tax-probably-both

He claims his tax returns are “under audit” and therefore he cannot release them.

Cobham said the $750 annual tax payments made in 2016 and 2017 by Trump, who claims to be a billionaire, were “far, far below” what most Americans paid in tax. He said people working in supermarkets earning $25,000 would probably be paying more tax than the president.

Cobham said the tax returns showed that Trump “ploughed hundreds of millions into businesses that don’t make money” and that “the case for him being a bad businessman is absolutely proved”.

“What Trump is shown to be doing will shine a light on his contribution to society,” Cobham said. “I think that is going to be incredibly difficult to defend paying so little in tax … even with his base, who might not value public healthcare but they do value the US’s ability to defend its borders, and that is also paid for by taxes.”

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 3:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



SLOPPY, has Trump EVER been convicted of tax fraud in a court of law?

Yes or no will do.

Until then, you can keep slinging all the bullshit you want, you're still a sociopath, not an American, and can't comprehend English.


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

Oh, btw, I really appreciate you replying to my posts! It gives me an excuse the keep posting the facts!

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

SLOPPY, has Trump EVER been convicted of tax fraud in a court of law?

Yes or no will do.

Until then, you can keep slinging all the bullshit you want, you're still a sociopath, not an American, and can't comprehend English.


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

Oh, btw, I really appreciate you replying to my posts! It gives me an excuse the keep posting the facts!
Fraud? Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#Settlement

Trump paid $25,000,000 without admitting guilt because he is innocent until proven guilty.

Trump's troubles -- I am a victim! Believe me! he yells over and over. Trumptards are moved to tears by his pudgy suffering. www.npr.org/2021/05/19/998231343/criminal-investigation-into-the-trump
-organization-in-new-york-what-we-know

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_returns_of_Donald_Trump



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Thursday, May 20, 2021 5:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



That's a lawsuit, SLOPPY - not a criminal conviction.

Sheesh. Your English is really bad.

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 5:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



SLOPPY, has Trump EVER been CONVICTED of tax fraud in a court of law?

Yes or no will do.

Until then, you can keep slinging all the bullshit you want, you're still a sociopath, not an American, and can't comprehend English.


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

Oh, btw, I really appreciate you replying to my posts! It gives me an excuse the keep posting the facts!

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‘I think Donald Trump is going to flip on all of them’: Michael Cohen on Trump investigation

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-think-donald-trump-is-going-
to-flip-on-all-of-them-michael-cohen-on-trump-investigation/vi-AAKaKEs

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That's a lawsuit, SLOPPY - not a criminal conviction.

Sheesh. Your English is really bad.
Which happens first? Trump convicted or Trump kills himself? Kills himself is the clear winner: https://www.google.com/search?q=Which+happens+first%3F+Trump+convicted
+or+Trump+kills+himself%3F

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 8:21 PM

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With all your lies, bullshit, and trolling, sociopath SLOPPY, you haven't provided one honest answer to a simple yes/ no question.

SLOPPY, has Trump EVER been CONVICTED of tax fraud in a court of law?

Yes or no will do.

Until then, you can keep slinging all the bullshit you want, you're still a sociopath, not an American, and can't comprehend English.


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

Oh, btw, I really appreciate you replying to my posts! It gives me an excuse the keep posting the facts!

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 10:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Don't forget Kiki. He's a Socialist now too.

Guess he's going a bit schitzo now that the Roomba has to make it's way out of him since his favorite sock puppet was banned.



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Thursday, May 20, 2021 10:46 PM

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Un-fucking-believable.

SECONDRATE is STILL banging on about TRUMP!!! TAXES!! ?? (I'm sure he'll make his way back to RUSSIA!! pretty soon too.)



Dood, dial down the monomania, willya? Everyone can see that you're an unbalanced douche. That's what your hate has turned you into.

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



His hate is the hate of a sociopath. The one thing that they can't stand is losing the game they're playing, to anyone.

His problem with Vietnam has nothing to do with the brutality of the war and the numbers of people killed and maimed. Or the tasks he had to perform. Or the specious reasons to be at war. Or even the the practicalities of the effect it had on the US budget.

No. He thought that if he went, and took up their cause, they'd admit him into the winners club, because he always figured he was one of them. But he found out it didn't matter how quickly he volunteered. Or how good a shot he was. He was always going to be a wetback piece of meat, to be used and discarded.

They played him! HIM! How DARE they!


That's where his hatred comes from.

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Friday, May 21, 2021 7:06 AM

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I wonder why some here are so fixated on Trump that they keep responding angrily when someone here posts a negative story about him that's been reported in the press? Same with Putin. Why can’t they move on from their obsession with defending these guys?

The stories posted about them in the press are current events and therefore relevant. Defending Trump and Putin is not. That’s a choice; why? It's because they are trolls, racists and hatemongers.

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Friday, May 21, 2021 8:38 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



No THUGGER, I'm not defending Trump. IN AMERICAN LAW TRUMP IS INNOCENT - until proven guilty in a court of law. So he has no need for anyone to defend him.


No, I'm not defending Trump. But unlike you, I'm a real American. And I'm defending the American foundational concept "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law".

Maybe you've heard of that, wherever it is you live? But I'm guessing you're too stooopid to understand what that means. Because if you did understand it you wouldn't have Trump convicted and jailed before there's even a trial.



In the meantime, why don't you explain to us all why you - and SLOPPY, of course - keep bringing up Trump. He's not the president anymore. Have you grasped that concept yet?


THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.

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No THUGGER, I'm not defending Trump. IN AMERICAN LAW TRUMP IS INNOCENT - until proven guilty in a court of law. So he has no need for anyone to defend him.


No, I'm not defending Trump. But unlike you, I'm a real American. And I'm defending the American foundational concept "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law".

Maybe you've heard of that, wherever it is you live? But I'm guessing you're too stooopid to understand what that means. Because if you did understand it you wouldn't have Trump convicted and jailed before there's even a trial.



In the meantime, why don't you explain to us all why you - and SLOPPY, of course - keep bringing up Trump. He's not the president anymore. Have you grasped that concept yet?


THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.
1kiki, your understanding of the American legal system is stuck at the elementary school level. Why not just say, as all Trumptards would, that Trump is NOT guilty because you and he say he is NOT guilty. Don't drag into this your childish misunderstandings about how the courts work. What a prosecuting lawyer would say is that Trump has not been indicted by a grand jury. Innocent or guilty is not something a grand jury decides. The final decision is for an appeals court ten or fifteen years from now, after a jury has decided Trump is guilty and Trump's lawyers take his conviction to every court in the land, including the Supreme Court, in an expensive effort to overturn a decision about a tax cheating crime Trump committed back in 2010. Maybe Trump will be lucky and die from obesity before the final decision. Wouldn't that be nice! He could say for the rest of his life that he was "innocent" and his estate will pay the taxes Trump owed since 2010. (Trump's heirs will probably be sued to pay what Trump's estate owed in taxes. Litigation for that will take years and will be stymied by the bankruptcy of Trump's children. With the best lawyers, Trump's taxes from 2010 will never be paid.)

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Friday, May 21, 2021 9:36 AM

1KIKI

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Keep proving to us all that you're not American!

There are only 2 states in the US formulation:
presumed innocent
proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law

Under "investAgation?" means presumed innocent.
Indicted means presumed innocent.
At trial means presumed innocent.

Until the person is convicted, they are presumed innocent.





SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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