Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS" by THGRRI

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So?
MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc pushed the "Russian collusion" lie for more than three years. I conclude that it's not good to believe ANY media, but do you due diligence about current events.

Also, Fox News isn't necessarily wrong about the election. Until it's been audited throughly, we'll never know. But the data is suspiciously weird.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:42 PM

Fox News is no worse than CNN or MSNBC. All any of them do is speak to cultists in between selling Car Insurance and Reverse Mortgages.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So?
MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc pushed the "Russian collusion" lie for more than three years. I conclude that it's not good to believe ANY media, but do you due diligence about current events.

Also, Fox News isn't necessarily wrong about the election. Until it's been audited throughly, we'll never know. But the data is suspiciously weird.

As for the 2020 Election, let me know when that audit is completed, the one that 1kiki and you are constantly talking about. Also tell me when it gets started, because I haven't heard about the start.

The Russian thingy was about Russian interference in the 2016 election, but Trump made it into a thingy about himself because he is a nutjob. By the way, Signym, here are four things Trump never grasped, ranked from most important to least important:

1) Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to do a “full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election”.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408/Rosenstein-letter-a
ppointing-Mueller-special.pdf

2) The Senate found that Russia interfered.
https://www.hsdl.org/c/final-report-on-russian-interference-in-2016-el
ections/

3) Mueller found that Russia interfered: “The Internet Research Agency (IRA) carried out the earliest Russian interference operations identified by the investigation—a social media campaign designed to provoke and amplify political and social discord in the United States. The IRA was based in St. Petersburg. Russia, and received funding from Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin and companies he controlled. Prigozhin is widely reported to have ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

“At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016. the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions (hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The Russian intelligence service known as the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Army (GRU) carried out these operations.”
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

4) Trump interfered with the investigation of Russia. Mueller’s Volume 2 said: “Our obstruction-of-justice inquiry focused on a series of actions by the President that related to the Russian-interference investigations, including the President’s conduct towards the law enforcement officials overseeing the investigations and the witnesses to relevant events.”
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 2:20 PM

Trump's pathology infects the millions who follow him -- and this narcissistic symbiosis could grow even worse
https://www.rawstory.com/trumps-mental-pathology/?utm_source=&utm_
medium=email&utm_campaign=6547

We warned of an authoritarian cult of personality and growing contempt for the rule of law, which would spread throughout the culture unless stopped. Donald Trump's presidency was dangerous not because of his individual afflictions but his capacity, as president, to amplify and exacerbate society's defects, especially if he faced no accountability.

To the end of his presidency, he was not contained or held accountable. The American Psychiatric Association advanced a perverse version of "the Goldwater rule" to silence expert alarms, the way the Department of Justice revived a controversial internal Office of the Legal Counsel memo to place a president above the law. As a result, Donald Trump may have left the office of the presidency, but "Trumpism" not only continues but flourishes. As the House managers in the impeachment trial have reminded us with their effective use of videos of the Capitol insurrection, the Trump infection, once spread, manifests in deadly, violent behavior.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:00 PM

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SIGNYM:
So?
MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc pushed the "Russian collusion" lie for more than three years. I conclude that it's not good to believe ANY media, but do you due diligence about current events.

Also, Fox News isn't necessarily wrong about the election. Until it's been audited throughly, we'll never know. But the data is suspiciously weird.

SECONDRATE: As for the 2020 Election, let me know when that audit is completed, the one that 1kiki and you are constantly talking about. Also tell me when it gets started, because I haven't heard about the start.

Then you should stop blathering about how the election was proven to be valid.

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The Russian thingy was about Russian interference in the 2016 election, but Trump made it into a thingy about himself because he is a nutjob.

Huh. And the surveillance of Flynn, Papadoupolis, Carter Page, AND TRUMP (and his family) WEREN'T about Trump?

The "dossier" WASN'T "about Trump?

Why didn't anyone talk to Assange? HE knew where the emails came from!

And if the FBI, CIA, MI6, NSA, and DOJ (Mueller) couldn't - between the five of them - couldn't scrape together enough evidence to take to trial the one Russian company that they indicted, I'd say their "investigation" was a shabby one and focused elsewhere.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:02 PM

Wow. The Russian troll can fuck up anything. ^ So fullashit.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:04 PM

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Signym, you have not stopped playing games about Russia Interference with the 2016 election. You won't admit it happened. Trump won't admit it either. Trump won't even concede that he lost in 2020, presumably because he is waiting for what hasn't been started -- an audit of the 2020 election. But one audit is complete:

Final Report on Russian Interference in 2016 Elections ( August 18, 2020, 4 years too late)
https://www.hsdl.org/c/final-report-on-russian-interference-in-2016-el
ections/

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Then you should stop blathering about how the election was proven to be valid.

I'm sure Trump would have been willing to serve until the audit of the 2020 election was finished. If that audit was as slow to finish, Trump would serve 4 more years before Signym's preferred auditor validated who the winner was in 2020.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:14 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
We warned of an authoritarian cult of personality and growing contempt for the rule of law, which would spread throughout the culture unless stopped. Donald Trump's presidency was dangerous not because of his individual afflictions but his capacity, as president, to amplify and exacerbate society's defects, especially if he faced no accountability.

The cognitive dissonance on display here would be astounding if I didn't expose myself to it every day here in the RWED.

That being said... *yawn*

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 5:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
We warned of an authoritarian cult of personality and growing contempt for the rule of law, which would spread throughout the culture unless stopped. Donald Trump's presidency was dangerous not because of his individual afflictions but his capacity, as president, to amplify and exacerbate society's defects, especially if he faced no accountability.

The cognitive dissonance on display here would be astounding if I didn't expose myself to it every day here in the RWED.

That being said... *yawn*

The irony.^ This alkie troll with brain damage is too stupid to see it. His ignorance is caused by his malfunctioning brain, but he loves being stupid, and he's great at it. No knowledge of politics OR history.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 5:02 PM

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 5:05 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
We warned of an authoritarian cult of personality and growing contempt for the rule of law, which would spread throughout the culture unless stopped. Donald Trump's presidency was dangerous not because of his individual afflictions but his capacity, as president, to amplify and exacerbate society's defects, especially if he faced no accountability.

The cognitive dissonance on display here would be astounding if I didn't expose myself to it every day here in the RWED.

That being said... *yawn*

The irony.^ This alkie troll with brain damage is too stupid to see it. His ignorance is caused by his malfunctioning brain, but he loves being stupid, and he's great at it. No knowledge of politics OR history.

Says the poster who knows no history.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Says the poster who knows no history.

Says the poster (and Trump) who won't concede the 2020 election until their preferred auditor reports on who won. The audit has not started, but the inauguration, set by the Constitution, which doesn't allow for delays based on audits, was 3 weeks ago.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:42 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Do you see in there any instruction to "get" Pence?

No?

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I would have "Stop The Steal" permanently

That's because you listen to the voices in your head instead of actual words like PEACEFULLY and PATRIOTICALLY.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:00 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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As for the 2020 Election, let me know when that audit is completed, the one that 1kiki and you are constantly talking about. Also tell me when it gets started, because I haven't heard about the start.

No election validation has started and it will never start because even your sainted democrats* have no interest in honest elections. And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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The Russian thingy was about Russian interference in the 2016 election, but Trump made it into a thingy about himself because he is a nutjob.

No, what made it about Trump was this part of the memo you keep ignoring -

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any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald TRUMP

the part of the memo that MADE IT ABOUT TRUMP. The part you keep ignoring where Mueller came up with zero.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:09 PM

It should probably be noted that I haven't had an alcoholic beverage in over 4 years and a month.

Not only does Marcos not have a clue about history, but he's clueless about current events too.

Try to keep up, son.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:33 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

As to the 'report' on Russian interference in 2016, this is what Clapper had to say about Russia:

Quotes from Clapper's testimony:

"They did not change any vote tallies or anything of that sort"
"We had no way of gauging the impact that - certainly the intelligence community cannot gauge the impact - it had on the choices the electorate made"

In other words
- the Russians didn't alter the vote
- there is NO EVIDENCE anything the Russians did changed any minds, and claims to the contrary are simply UNEVIDENCED opinions
- the vote reflected the 'choices the electorate made'

And a vote which reflects the will of the people is certainly a goal of any self-identified democracy, don't you agree SECOND?

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And a vote which reflects the will of the people is certainly a goal of any self-identified democracy, don't you agree SECOND?

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:05 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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As for the 2020 Election, let me know when that audit is completed, the one that 1kiki and you are constantly talking about. Also tell me when it gets started, because I haven't heard about the start.
No election validation has started and it will never start because even your sainted democrats* have no interest in honest elections. And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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The Russian thingy was about Russian interference in the 2016 election, but Trump made it into a thingy about himself because he is a nutjob.
No, what made it about Trump was this part of the memo you keep ignoring -
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any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald TRUMP
the part of the memo that MADE IT ABOUT TRUMP. The part you keep ignoring where Mueller came up with zero.

1kiki, tell me all about this validation/certification you keep asking for that has to done before Trump will finally concede he lost. Who does it? When is it done? When was it last done before this election? 1kiki: you have no answers to anything because what you are asking for has never been done, ever, in any election in American history.

As for your bitchiness about Trump's campaign being investigated, what the fuck is going in your tiny brain? The FBI doesn't need your or TRUMP's goddamn permission to investigate. But TRUMP insisted the FBI does need his permission. That is crazy for TRUMP to think he can control the investigation of his own business. But TRUMP is crazy. Ask anybody who looked into how he conducted his life for the last 40 years. I will give you a list of books about how crazy TRUMP is. Read a few: 15 books to help you make sense of Trump, the U.S. election and the times we’re in
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/books/2020/10/09/reading-guide-1
5-books-to-help-you-make-sense-of-trump-the-us-election-and-the-times-were-in.html

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:13 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Obviously you've read none of the links I've posted, or indeed any of my posts on the topic.

Read them and get back to me.

Otherwise - meh. Continue 'playing' dumb.

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Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:10 PM

Fake mail-in election is fake.

Period.

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Friday, February 12, 2021 9:50 AM

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DEMOCATS CAUGHT USING FAKE "EVIDENCE" AT IMPEACHMENT "TRIAL"

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At the end of its first day of argument, the Senate trial was thrown into chaos when a “juror” stood up like a scene out of Perry Mason to contest the veracity statements made by “prosecutors.” That moment came as the Senate was preparing to end for the day and Senator Mike Lee (R., Utah) jumped to his feet to object that a quote by House manager Rep. David Cicilline (D., R.I.) was false. Lee should know. They were purportedly his words. After a frenzy on the floor and a delay of proceedings, lead House manager Rep. Jamie Raskin (D., Md) announced that it would withdraw Cicilline’s statements and that “this is much ado about nothing, because it’s not critical in anyway to our case.” In reality, it had much to do about the manager’s case and highlights a glaring problem in its case. The House has elected to try this case of incitement of insurrection largely on circumstantial evidence and using media reports rather than witness testimony. It is trial by innuendo and implication rather than direct evidence of what Trump knew and intended on January 6th.

MORE AT https://jonathanturley.org/2021/02/11/the-withdrawal-of-the-words-of-t
he-house-managers-has-much-to-do-with-their-case/

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Friday, February 12, 2021 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
DEMOCATS CAUGHT USING FAKE "EVIDENCE" AT IMPEACHMENT "TRIAL"

If there's anything I've come to loathe over two decades it's bad faith arguments. They're just endless these days, and they've gotten to the point where Republicans don't even bother to hide that they are wasting everyone's time.

And that's the entire story of the Republicans' defense during impeachment. The House managers could have video of Trump texting directions to the insurrectionists and it wouldn't matter. Republicans have decided to pretend that they have a deep constitutional objection to impeaching a president who's out of office, and that's that. The rest is just theater.

This is a bad faith argument and everyone knows it. Republicans don't want to convict Trump, but they also don't want to force their members to cast a vote implicitly approving of insurrection. So they groped around for some kind of technicality that would eliminate their dilemma and came up with the out-of-office dodge. This allows them to vote to acquit but to claim it was solely because of their deep commitment to constitutional norms.

There's no point arguing about this since it's not meant seriously. It's just a bad faith argument designed to get Republicans out of a dilemma and waste lots of Democratic time.

But this is the world we live in. It's full of bad faith arguments like this, designed solely to produce a plausible explanation for the rubes and to waste everyone else's time. And it works. The rubes and Signym obediently parrot it back.

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Friday, February 12, 2021 12:18 PM

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Trump impeachment trial: Day 2 key moments

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Friday, February 12, 2021 12:34 PM

Nobody cares.

You watching this at your job in between firing Republicans or something?

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Friday, February 12, 2021 1:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

You watching this at your job in between firing Republicans or something?

Trumptards fire themselves. Or set themselves on fire in self-immolation by smoking in bed while drunk or stoned. There has been dozens of times where some guy who has been a pain in my ass did the right thing and died suddenly, either accidentally, medically, or suicidally.

There's a prayer that works for me, which is why I am not an atheist: "God is great, God is good, please God, strike down fools and Trumptards." But it might be that fools and Trumptards are naturally short lived creatures, much like the ungulates cattle and deer. Whichever, Praise the Lord!

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Friday, February 12, 2021 5:41 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

You watching this at your job in between firing Republicans or something?

Trump stupidly almost killed himself. Trump was sicker with Covid-19 in October than publicly acknowledged at the time, with extremely depressed blood oxygen levels and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus. If Trump had gone to his quack doctor Bornstein rather than Walter Reed, he'd be dead. Praise the Lord!
https://web.archive.org/web/20210212164035/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/02/11/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html

Bornstein, dead, had memorably predicted his patient “will be the healthiest individual elected to the presidency.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/harold-bornstein-trump-ex-doc
tor-dies-459293

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Friday, February 12, 2021 9:28 PM

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DEMOCRATS, HOIST ON THEIR OWN PETARDS OF "INVALID ELECTIONS", "ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENTS", AND "SHAM IMPEACHMENTS"

AND ON THEIR OWN PETARD OF "INCITEMENT"

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Friday, February 12, 2021 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

You watching this at your job in between firing Republicans or something?
Trump stupidly almost killed himself. Trump was sicker with Covid-19 in October than publicly acknowledged at the time, with extremely depressed blood oxygen levels and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus. If Trump had gone to his quack doctor Bornstein rather than Walter Reed, he'd be dead. Praise the Lord!
https://web.archive.org/web/20210212164035/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/02/11/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html

Bornstein, dead, had memorably predicted his patient “will be the healthiest individual elected to the presidency.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/harold-bornstein-trump-ex-doc
tor-dies-459293

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Does this count as taking glee from somebody he doesn't agree with dying?

I can't bother to do any more than skim his bullshit these days.

If it is, I'll add it to the list and archive.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 7:06 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Does this count as taking glee from somebody he doesn't agree with dying?

I can't bother to do any more than skim his bullshit these days.

If it is, I'll add it to the list and archive.

Add this to your archive: Trump would have died if he had gone to the quack who had been his doctor for 35 years, Bornstein, rather than Walter Reed Medical Center. Trump caught Covid-19 because he is stupid. I know dozens of Trumptards who died because they are stupid. Their lives at work are difficult because they are stupid. Would their political choices be smart? No.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 7:10 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
DEMOCRATS, HOIST ON THEIR OWN PETARDS OF "INVALID ELECTIONS", "ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENTS", AND "SHAM IMPEACHMENTS"

AND ON THEIR OWN PETARD OF "INCITEMENT"

Focus on what Trump did, Signym. Trump is charged with inciting the rioters during the Capitol insurrection that led to five deaths.

In a statement, Beutler reiterated that sharp words were exchanged between Trump and McCarthy which she said showed the former president's state of mind and that he had refused to call off the rioters.

"When McCarthy finally reached the president on January 6 and asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the riot, the president initially repeated the falsehood that it was Antifa that had breached the Capitol," she said.

"McCarthy refuted that and told the president that these were Trump supporters. That's when, according to McCarthy, the president said: 'Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are."
https://www.newsweek.com/impeachment-capitol-riots-donald-trump-kevin-
mccarthy-jaime-herrera-beutler-more-upset-1569089

Trump's comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, "Who the f--k do you think you are talking to?" according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-
details/index.html

As a prosecution manager, Rep. Ted Lieu of California, argued Thursday: "I'm not afraid of Donald Trump running again in four years. I'm afraid he's going to run again and lose." Lieu didn't say it but I will: And then Trump calls his supporters to D.C. in 4 years to "Stop the Steal" once again and pretends, again, the riot isn't his.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 7:16 AM

WHOZIT

I watched some of the hearings yesterday...BOY DID YOU SCUMOCRATS GET YER ASSES HANDED TO YA!! By the way, how's that Lincoln Project working out for ya?

Democrat, rhymes with sewer rat - whozit 2021

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 9:36 AM

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I watched some of the hearings yesterday...BOY DID YOU SCUMOCRATS GET YER ASSES HANDED TO YA!! By the way, how's that Lincoln Project working out for ya?

Democrat, rhymes with sewer rat - whozit 2021

Whataboutism isn't a valid argument. Only a Russian troll who hates America would make the false claim that the defense said anything of value.

They lost, bigly. They got their asses handed to THEM. You should have watched the whole thing.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 9:38 AM

Trump and McCarthy SHOUTING Call During Capitol Siege: WHO THE F*** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING TO?

Trump incited the mob, and reveled in the death and destruction he, personally, had caused.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 9:56 AM

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DEMOCRATS, HOIST ON THEIR OWN PETARDS OF "INVALID ELECTIONS", "ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENTS", AND "SHAM IMPEACHMENTS"

AND ON THEIR OWN PETARD OF "INCITEMENT"

Trump’s falsehoods haunt local election workers with death threats weeks after Capitol siege

His staff endured racist taunts. His voicemail overflowed with threats and wild conspiracy theories. And then one day, a caller warned that the Christmas Day bombing in Nashville "was a practice run for what was coming to our polling places."

The abuse and threats hurled at Fulton County, Georgia, Elections Director Richard Barron and his staff in Atlanta between last year's general election and the state's high-stakes Senate runoffs on January 5 marked a new low in his 21-year career working on elections.

Around the country, election supervisors and the rank-and-file workers who helped carry out the nuts and bolts of American democracy still are reeling from the barrage of threats and the flood of falsehoods they had to navigate as they helped a record number of people cast ballots in a pandemic.

The baseless claims of election fraud promoted by former President Donald Trump and his allies may have reached their deadly apogee on January 6, when a pro-Trump mob stormed the US Capitol in an effort to stop the certification of the presidential contest. But election officials said they still are coping with the fallout weeks later -- as they face voters still skeptical of the results and new skirmishes with state lawmakers over how to run elections moving forward.

In Arizona -- where election officials in Phoenix saw nightly protests as they tallied votes last November -- members of the Republican-controlled Senate weighed contempt charges for members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, on grounds that they had refused to comply with demands to hand over images of every mail-in ballot for review.

Some senators threatened board members with arrest.

In the end, the Senate voted against holding the Maricopa officials in contempt, with one GOP lawmaker, Sen. Paul Boyer, breaking with his caucus to block the effort.

President Joe Biden's win in populous Maricopa cemented his victory in Arizona, making him the first Democrat since Bill Clinton in 1996 to carry the state.

"Some of our voters are upset with us," Maricopa County Supervisor Bill Gates, one of four Republicans on the five-member board, told CNN. "They wanted to see us come out with a different decision when we certified the votes. But to me, there was no choice to make. I mean, the votes were cast. It was a fair election."

Maricopa County officials received death threats after certifying the results, Gates said.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/13/politics/threats-still-haunt-election-o
fficials/index.html

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:31 AM

Fake mail-in election was fake.

Period.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:33 AM

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Does this count as taking glee from somebody he doesn't agree with dying?

I can't bother to do any more than skim his bullshit these days.

If it is, I'll add it to the list and archive.
Add this to your archive: Trump would have died if he had gone to the quack who had been his doctor for 35 years, Bornstein, rather than Walter Reed Medical Center. Trump caught Covid-19 because he is stupid. I know dozens of Trumptards who died because they are stupid. Their lives at work are difficult because they are stupid. Would their political choices be smart? No.

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Nah...

That's pretty stupid, but it's not really archive material.

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The First Amendment argument: This is the reddest herring of all.

Consider this scenario: A president, clad in full Ku Klux Klan regalia, summons cameras to the Oval Office, newly bedecked in swastikas, to announce that he believes the Constitution is a joke and that he will no longer follow it. Is his ability to make these outrageous statements or display the Nazi emblem fully protected by the First Amendment? Yes. Would it be entirely within Congress’s prerogative — indeed, its duty — to impeach him for it? You bet.

Trump lawyer Michael van der Veen had the nerve to denounce a letter from 144 First Amendment scholars dismissing Trump’s First Amendment argument as “legally frivolous” for being a “partisan” document. The letter was signed by, among other conservatives, Federalist Society founder Steven Calabresi.

https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/nearly-150-constitutional-scholars
-reject-trumps-legal-defense-the-first-amendment-does-not-apply-in-impeachment-proceedings/

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:21 PM

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The refusal to answer about what and when Trump knew about the insurrection:

This is a bizarre and particularly infuriating subset of the due process claim. Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) asked a simple question, “Exactly when did President Trump learn of the breach of the Capitol, and what specific actions did he take to bring the rioting to an end, and when did he take them?” The response? Chutzpah, thy name is van der Veen. “The House managers have given us absolutely no evidence, one way or the other, on that question,” he blustered. “With the rush to bring this impeachment, there has been absolutely no investigation into that. And that is the problem with this entire proceeding. The House managers did zero investigation, and the American people deserve a lot better than coming in here with no evidence, hearsay on top of hearsay on top of reports that are hearsay. Due process is required here, and that was denied.”

Are you kidding me? His client refused the managers’ request to testify. And Trump is van der Veen’s client. Ask him, maybe?

When van der Veen offered information about Trump’s knowledge that day, in response to another question, from Collins and Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), it was false. “At no point was the president informed the vice president was in any danger,” he asserted. “Because the House rushed through this impeachment in seven days with no evidence, there is nothing at all in the record on this point because the House failed to do even a minimum amount of due diligence.” But as Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) pointed out in another question, Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) has stated that he spoke with Trump at 2:15 p.m. on Jan. 6 and told the president that Vice President Mike Pence had just been evacuated from the Senate chamber. “I dispute the facts that are laid out in that question," van der Veen said, "and, unfortunately, we are not going to know the answer to the facts in this proceeding because the House did nothing to investigate what was going on.”

https://www.wthitv.com/content/national/573789352.html

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:29 PM

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DEMOCRATS, HOIST ON THEIR OWN PETARDS OF "INVALID ELECTIONS", "ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENTS", AND "SHAM IMPEACHMENTS"

AND ON THEIR OWN PETARD OF "INCITEMENT"

SECONDRATE: Trump’s falsehoods...

Except, they may be truths. There's more evidence for THIS election being stolen than there ever was for RUSSIA!RUSSIA! collusion.

Too bad you've already posted that NO INVESTIGATION WAS EVER STATRTED, because now you can't demonstrate that we know for sure that the election was honest.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:32 PM

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The contention that evidence of advance planning for the assault on the Capitol somehow exculpates Trump from responsibility:

“The fact that the attacks were apparently premeditated, as alleged by the House managers, demonstrates the ludicrousness of the incitement allegation against the president,” van der Veen thundered. “You can't incite what was already going to happen.”

This deliberately obtuse argument seeks to confine the charge against Trump to the single episode of his Jan. 6 speech. But that wasn’t the House case. The managers showed how he revved up his followers into believing the big lie that the election had been stolen from him; how he stoked their fury in the weeks following the election; and how he summoned them to Washington on the very day that the electoral votes were to be certified. The speech was simply the culmination of Trump’s incitement. Trump was in on the incitement — he was the incitement — from start to finish. The premeditation, which suggests evidence of menace that Trump knew or should have known about, doesn’t excuse Trump — it deepens his responsibility.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/13/trumps-impeachment-
lawyers-had-weak-case-argued-badly/

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:32 PM

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The refusal to answer about what and when Trump knew about the insurrection

Oh, you mean the NON-insurrection?
That's what this charade is all about, isn't it? Getting to repeat dog whistles over and over in the media?

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:37 PM

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Originally posted by SECONDRATE But that wasn’t the House case. The managers showed how he revved up his followers into believing the big lie

The DNC's ... and SECONDRATE'S... big lie about "the big lie".

More dog whistles.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:37 PM

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SIGNYM:
DEMOCRATS, HOIST ON THEIR OWN PETARDS OF "INVALID ELECTIONS", "ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENTS", AND "SHAM IMPEACHMENTS"

AND ON THEIR OWN PETARD OF "INCITEMENT"

SECONDRATE: Trump’s falsehoods...
Except, they may be truths. There's more evidence for THIS election being stolen than there ever was for RUSSIA!RUSSIA! collusion.

Too bad you've already posted that NO INVESTIGATION WAS EVER STATRTED, because now you can't demonstrate that we know for sure that the election was honest.

Trump has been claiming for a year that the election will be stolen. This is not the first time Trump has made claims about election fraud. It has been a part of his playbook for years -- long before he entered politics.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-longstanding-history-calling-ele
ctions-rigged-doesnt-results/story?id=74126926

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:58 PM

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SIGNYM:
DEMOCRATS, HOIST ON THEIR OWN PETARDS OF "INVALID ELECTIONS", "ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENTS", AND "SHAM IMPEACHMENTS"

AND ON THEIR OWN PETARD OF "INCITEMENT"

SECONDRATE: Trump’s falsehoods...
Except, they may be truths. There's more evidence for THIS election being stolen than there ever was for RUSSIA!RUSSIA! collusion.

Too bad you've already posted that NO INVESTIGATION WAS EVER STATRTED, because now you can't demonstrate that we know for sure that the election was honest.
Trump has been claiming for a year that the election will be stolen. This is not the first time Trump has made claims about election fraud. It has been a part of his playbook for years -- long before he entered politics.

The question for me, SECONDRATE, isn't about what Trump said ... because it's afree speech ... it's whether or not IT IS TRUE.

Speech is ALWAYS protected when it's true.

DEMOCRATS claimed FOR YEARS that the 2016 election was "stolen" because of "collusion with Russia". But the Mueller investigtion showed that wasn't true, and that there isn't enough evidence to take the indicted Russian firm to court. (But there are PLENTY of meeting notes, emails, and texts suggesting that this whole "Russian collusion" campaign was a coodinated smear campaign against Trump, so there you go.)

OTOH you haven't been able to demonstrate that the elections were valid enough not to affect the results.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 2:03 PM

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Originally posted by SECONDRATE But that wasn’t the House case. The managers showed how he revved up his followers into believing the big lie
The DNC's ... and SECONDRATE'S... big lie about "the big lie".

More dog whistles.

You are claiming Trump won. Trump claims the same. He told people to be in Washington D.C. to "Stop the Steal" on the day when the winner is announced. Then a riot broke out inside the Capitol Building where Congress would announce that Trump lost. Funny about Trump not admitting he lost and not stopping the riot with, for example, a shoot to kill order. Only one cop did what Trump should have ordered and killed a rioter. The other cops let themselves be pushed around and stomped on because the President didn't give the order.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 2:14 PM

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The question for me, SECONDRATE, isn't about what Trump said ... because it's afree speech ... it's whether or not IT IS TRUE.

Speech is ALWAYS protected when it's true.

DEMOCRATS claimed FOR YEARS that the 2016 election was "stolen" because of "collusion with Russia". But the Mueller investigtion showed that wasn't true, and that there isn't enough evidence to take the indicted Russian firm to court. (But there are PLENTY of meeting notes, emails, and texts suggesting that this whole "Russian collusion" campaign was a coodinated smear campaign against Trump, so there you go.)

OTOH you haven't been able to demonstrate that the elections were valid enough not to affect the results.

Wasn't there a time when you claimed you didn't vote for Trump? You have an awful lot of crazy passion defending Trump for someone who voted for the Green Party candidate. Or for a Russian who didn't vote. By the way, your "whataboutism" (What about what the Democrats said 4 years ago) doesn't change Trump's impeachment, but does make clear your brain is over-heating. Only inside the mind of a Trumptard did Trump win.

Trump’s Defense: What About Democratic Violence? (Answer: There Wasn’t Any.)
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/02/trumps-impeachment-defense-is-
whataboutism.html

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 3:57 PM

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SIGNY: The question for me, SECONDRATE, isn't about what Trump said ... because it's afree speech ... it's whether or not IT IS TRUE.
Speech is ALWAYS protected when it's true.
DEMOCRATS claimed FOR YEARS that the 2016 election was "stolen" because of "collusion with Russia". But the Mueller investigtion showed that wasn't true, and that there isn't enough evidence to take the indicted Russian firm to court. (But there are PLENTY of meeting notes, emails, and texts suggesting that this whole "Russian collusion" campaign was a coodinated smear campaign against Trump, so there you go.)

OTOH you haven't been able to demonstrate that the elections were valid enough not to affect the results.

SECONDRATE: Wasn't there a time when you claimed you didn't vote for Trump?

NOPE! But thanks for the lie.

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SECONDRATE: You have an awful lot of crazy passion defending Trump for someone who voted for the Green Party candidate.

Wrong on both counts.
You still haven't learned that I'm debunking your lies, not "defending Trump". For someone who claims to be smart, you're pretty slow.
Also, I voted Green when faced with Obama the second time around. Not that it's any business of yours.

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When you resort to outright lies is when I know you've run out of facts.

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SECONDRATE: By the way, your "whataboutism" (What about what the Democrats said 4 years ago) doesn't change Trump's impeachment, but does make clear your brain is over-heating. Only inside the mind of a Trumptard did Trump win.

THIS from the a-hole who posted and entire para of "what about if Trump draped himself in the Nazi flag blah blah blah ..." Not only was that a "what about", it was an entirely fictitious one.

Mine, at least, are rooted in fact. Bc you can't deny that Hillary, the DNC, and the entire mass media, security agencies and entrenched neoliberal/ globalib bureaucracy spent THREE YEARS screeching about a "stolen election". And you STILL are!

BTW, the violence that the Dems pander to are the BLM/Antifa riots.

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Saturday, February 13, 2021 4:07 PM

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SECONDRATE But that wasn’t the House case. The managers showed how he revved up his followers into believing the big lie

SIGNY: The DNC's ... and SECONDRATE'S... big lie about "the big lie".
More dog whistles.

SECONDRATE You are claiming Trump won.

Another lie.

Jeez, you just can't stop, can you??

When you're ready for an HONEST discussion, let me know!

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