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Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Amy's first portrait on the SCOTUS:




I get what they were going for with that seating arrangement, but talk about half-assing it.



There... now it's even.




But we can do better....

Ah. There it is...



The SJW pyramid is now complete.


Now we just need to get Sotomayor some stilts, one of these for Thomas.


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Saturday, November 28, 2020 9:09 AM

REAVERFAN


Why the US was Lucky to get Donald Trump | George Monbiot


And why they may not be so lucky next time



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Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:01 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by THG:

Does ANTIFA, the far left, still believe 911 was an inside job? Point being, those people are as nuts as the far right.

T



Where the fuck did that come from?

The far left has made outrageous claims just as the far right. I see both as being a problem.




The people who think 9/11 may have been an 'inside job

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42195513



You think Antifa is some kind of organized group with a list of things they all believe?

You have a lot to learn.





Nope, didn't say that. I generalized to make a point. They may not be as organized as
some groups on the right but they seem to show up at protests as if on Q.
They also have the same hate for this government that the right has.
I see that same hate in you.

T



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Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:26 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Correlation is not Causation.

You could list off literally 1,000 different reasons why college "educated" white kids aren't having children.

Now if we could only find a way to equally damage the brains of every ethnicity across the planet into not having kids, we might finally have a winner on our hands for how to solve the overpopulation problem that nobody ever wants to talk about.

There are NOT too many people; there is too much stupidity -- too many dimwits who think they can dump whatever they please into the air because the air is free. The very same dimwits, and I've known these guys for decades, were angry about the Federal government telling them to stop dumping their industrial liquid wastes into the Houston Ship Channel. They lost that argument, but only after decades of court battles, and the sewage treatment plants were built to take care of the waste that had previously been going into Galveston Bay. Those whiny little dimwits claimed that the factories would have to shutdown because the liquid wastes were too expensive to properly dispose. Wrong they were. The factories are running fine and profitably on Houston Ship Channel. These same stupid whiners claim that climate change can only be handled by reducing the population in the world. Wrong again, you dumb motherfuckers who voted for Trump.

Eventually, the waste gases vented into the atmosphere will be reduced, but I expect there will be decades more litigation before they are forced to do what they should have done 30 years ago.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 28, 2020 12:05 PM

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Saturday, November 28, 2020 12:57 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
i actually love this metaphor because it's a fake target and you've put it there yourself.

Can you place a REAL target on Mitch McConnell?

Political scientists Hacker and Pierson describe the rationale behind McConnell's filibusters, "Filibusters left no fingerprints. When voters heard that legislation had been 'defeated,' journalists rarely highlighted that this defeat meant a minority had blocked a majority. Not only did this strategy produce an atmosphere of gridlock and dysfunction; it also chewed up the Senate calendar, restricting the range of issues on which Democrats could progress."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell#Use_of_the_filibuster

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 28, 2020 12:58 PM

THG


The job market we are heading into depends on what the needs are going to be 10,20 and 30 years into the future. Biden is going to try and get America going with this as a priority.

T



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Saturday, November 28, 2020 12:58 PM

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Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:46 PM

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Saturday, November 28, 2020 6:13 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Newt Gingrich believes the 2020 election may be the "biggest presidential theft" since 1824 and is urging state legislatures to "demand recounts."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/28/newt-gingrich-2020-elect
ion-may-be-biggest-presidential-theft-since-1824
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Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Correlation is not Causation.

You could list off literally 1,000 different reasons why college "educated" white kids aren't having children.

Now if we could only find a way to equally damage the brains of every ethnicity across the planet into not having kids, we might finally have a winner on our hands for how to solve the overpopulation problem that nobody ever wants to talk about.

There are NOT too many people; there is too much stupidity -- too many dimwits who think they can dump whatever they please into the air because the air is free. The very same dimwits, and I've known these guys for decades, were angry about the Federal government telling them to stop dumping their industrial liquid wastes into the Houston Ship Channel. They lost that argument, but only after decades of court battles, and the sewage treatment plants were built to take care of the waste that had previously been going into Galveston Bay. Those whiny little dimwits claimed that the factories would have to shutdown because the liquid wastes were too expensive to properly dispose. Wrong they were. The factories are running fine and profitably on Houston Ship Channel. These same stupid whiners claim that climate change can only be handled by reducing the population in the world. Wrong again, you dumb motherfuckers who voted for Trump.

Eventually, the waste gases vented into the atmosphere will be reduced, but I expect there will be decades more litigation before they are forced to do what they should have done 30 years ago.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Wrong.

There are too many people.

Far, far, far too many people.

10,388 more being born every day... Just in the US alone.


https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state-of-the-pl
anet/world-population-clock-live/story


Watch how quickly that number keeps ticking up, despite the best efforts of the WHO and CDC bumping up the fake Covid numbers.

Then keep in mind that this number is exponential, which in turn means the problem itself is exponential.

While also keeping in mind that half of the US population was told earlier this year that their jobs are not essential.




What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 7:27 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Wrong.

There are too many people.

Far, far, far too many people.

10,388 more being born every day... Just in the US alone.

Watch how quickly that number keeps ticking up, despite the best efforts of the WHO and CDC bumping up the fake Covid numbers.

Then keep in mind that this number is exponential, which in turn means the problem itself is exponential.

While also keeping in mind that half of the US population was told earlier this year that their jobs are not essential.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

Wrong.

The review of the book about what is ahead:
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/of-course-they-would-on-kim-stanle
y-robinsons-the-ministry-for-the-future
/

The free book about what is ahead: https://tpb19.ukpass.co/description.php?id=36665289

With climate change and the Holocene extinction looming in the background, as characters variously seek to halt it or fall victim to it, the reviewer in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette described this narrative as "a good old-fashioned monster story". It begins with an inciting incident and follows characters who interact with privileged groups unwilling to change their habits to address the monster. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future

6ix, I'd say it is pretty typical of privileged groups to be unwilling to change their habits. It is the Ebenezer Scrooge way of thinking before the Ghosts of Christmas scared him -- Bob Cratchit and Tiny Tim have to suffer and die for Scrooge, who won't pay them.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 7:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Why Did So Many Americans Vote for Trump?

To the dismay of Democrats, the president’s strategy of ignoring the pandemic mostly worked for Republicans.

. . . Democrats needed to present a competing, compelling strategy to counter Republican messaging. Struggling workers and businesses never clearly heard exactly what they’d get if Democrats ran the show, and Democrats never came together to scream bloody murder that Republicans were refusing to give it to them. Democrats needed to underscore the depth of Republican failure by forcefully communicating what other countries had done to successfully control the virus. And they needed to promise to do the same through something like an Operation Warp Speed for testing and P.P.E. to get America safely back in business.

Instead, they whined that Mr. Trump’s negligence and incompetence were to blame for America’s economic woes and complained that Mitch McConnell wouldn’t even consider the House’s big relief bill. They weren’t wrong, but correctly assigning culpability did nothing to help working-class breadwinners who can’t bus tables, process chickens, sell smoothies or clean hotel rooms over Zoom.

The Republican message couldn’t have been clearer: Workers should be able to show up, clock in, earn a normal paycheck, pay the rent and feed their kids. Democrats were telling the same workers that we need to listen to science, reopening is premature, and the economy can’t be fully restored until we beat the virus. Correct! But how does that help when rent was due last week?

Make no mistake, it was unforgivably cruel of Republicans to force blue-collar and service workers to risk death for grocery money. Yet their disinformation campaign persuaded many millions of Americans that the risk was minimal and that Democrats were keeping their workplaces and schools closed, their customers and kids at home, and their wallets empty and cupboards bare for bogus reasons.

The president’s mendacious push to hastily reopen everything was less compelling to college-educated suburbanites, who tend to trust experts and can work from home, watch their kids and spare a laptop for online kindergarten. Mr. Trump lost the election mainly because he lost enough of these voters, including some moderate Republicans who otherwise voted straight Republican tickets.

Democrats need to rethink the idea that these voters would have put Democratic House and Senate candidates over the top if only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez were less radiantly socialist. They need to accept that they took hits on the economy by failing to escape the trap Republicans set by doggedly refusing to do anything about the uncontained contagion destroying it.

And they need to understand how Mr. Trump saved his party by weaponizing polarization. Conservatives needed a way not to get spun by the president’s destabilizing act of disloyalty, so they steadied themselves by reaffirming their loyalty down the remainder of the ballot. They were voting against a personal crisis of identity, not the Green New Deal.

Democrats might have done better had sunny polls and their own biased partisan perceptions not misled them into believing that backlash to indisputably damning Republican failure would deliver an easy Senate majority — but not much better. Until the mind-bending spell of polarization breaks, everything that matters will be fiercely disputed and even the most egregious failures will continue to go unpunished.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201128165943/https://www.nytimes.com/202
0/11/27/opinion/trump-democrats-coronavirus.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 1:20 PM

THG


Trump era shows ‘Constitution stronger than one man’ expert says

Donald Trump’s recount failures, his campaign losing cases in states such as Pennsylvania and more, and the Georgia Senate runoff, are analyzed by experts who discuss these events as evidence that our democratic institutions are ‘holding.’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-era-shows-constitution-s
tronger-than-one-man-expert-says/vi-BB1brKuR?ocid=msedgntp


You can bet changes will be made to make sure one person cannot reek such havoc again. Bottom line is democracy wins because most here will fight to maintain it.

T




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Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Wrong.

There are too many people.

Far, far, far too many people.

10,388 more being born every day... Just in the US alone.

Watch how quickly that number keeps ticking up, despite the best efforts of the WHO and CDC bumping up the fake Covid numbers.

Then keep in mind that this number is exponential, which in turn means the problem itself is exponential.

While also keeping in mind that half of the US population was told earlier this year that their jobs are not essential.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

Wrong.

The review of the book about what is ahead:
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/of-course-they-would-on-kim-stanle
y-robinsons-the-ministry-for-the-future
/

The free book about what is ahead: https://tpb19.ukpass.co/description.php?id=36665289

With climate change and the Holocene extinction looming in the background, as characters variously seek to halt it or fall victim to it, the reviewer in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette described this narrative as "a good old-fashioned monster story". It begins with an inciting incident and follows characters who interact with privileged groups unwilling to change their habits to address the monster. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future

6ix, I'd say it is pretty typical of privileged groups to be unwilling to change their habits. It is the Ebenezer Scrooge way of thinking before the Ghosts of Christmas scared him -- Bob Cratchit and Tiny Tim have to suffer and die for Scrooge, who won't pay them.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Wrong. As always.

Thanks for never changing.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Why Did So Many Americans Vote for Trump?



If you're going to continue to try to boil it down to a single reason, don't be shocked when Democrats have their asses handed to them in 2022 as is already being predicted by CNN.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
You can bet changes will be made to make sure one person cannot reek such havoc again. Bottom line is democracy wins because most here will fight to maintain it.



If you enjoy losing money, go for it.

Halfwit.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, November 30, 2020 5:52 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Withdrawal from Afghanistan is Trump’s Gift to Joe Biden

In January of 2008, Vice President-elect Biden visited Afghanistan to get a feel for the issues the new Obama Administration would be facing there once it took office. The trip did not go well: Biden’s meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai was tension-filled, while his talks with senior U.S. military officers left Biden filled with doubts. Every time Biden asked a military officer to explain what the United States was doing in Afghanistan, he got a different answer—from fighting the Taliban to fighting al-Qaeda to helping Afghans rebuild their country. Biden’s exchanges with American soldiers were even more worrisome. What are you doing here? Biden would ask those he met. They didn’t know.

And so it was that, following Obama’s inauguration, Biden emerged as the administration’s leading Afghanistan skeptic: worrying that the military would press for a surge of troops in the country (but without laying out what exactly the surge was for), questioning whether a change in commanders (from Gen. David McKiernan to Stanley McChrystal) was really necessary, then upending the administration’s discussions on the military strategy by suggesting it was wrong to promote a counterinsurgency campaign that focused on the Afghan people. What was needed, Biden said, was a counterterrorism campaign that focused on al-Qaeda. As the last person to talk to the president on any important issue, Biden was both confrontational—and protective. Or, as Bob Woodward would later describe it, Biden “believed the military could not push him around, but they could roll an inexperienced president.”

As it turns out, Biden was right on all three counts. Within a week of his return from Afghanistan, the new president was pummeled by military officers recommending a surge of 30,000 U.S. troops (Biden was stunned), McChrystal’s appointment foundered on a sea of alcohol-fueled embarrassments (complete with personal stabs at the vice president) and Biden’s fear that Afghanistan would become “just another version of Vietnam” proved prescient: at the end of Obama’s first term the war was still being fought, and still going nowhere. The history is painful but instructive: of all of Barack Obama’s senior national security officials, it was Joe Biden who most closely questioned the military’s Afghanistan plan, primarily by pointing out that they didn’t have one.

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/withdrawal-afghanistan-trump%E2%8
0%99s-gift-joe-biden-173202


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 30, 2020 9:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


^

Okay. So we're going to pretend that Biden* isn't an establishment warmongering pig now.

He should probably announce that he was just kidding about all of his cabinet picks so far then.

All of them.

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Monday, November 30, 2020 9:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Withdrawal from Afghanistan is Trump’s Gift to Joe Biden



Firing Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger was a pretty great gift too.

It's going to be funny watching Biden* explain to his base why he gives them their jobs back.


Ted won't need an explanation though. Ted loves both of them.



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Monday, November 30, 2020 10:29 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^

Okay. So we're going to pretend that Biden* isn't an establishment warmongering pig now.

He should probably announce that he was just kidding about all of his cabinet picks so far then.

All of them.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Withdrawal from Afghanistan is Trump’s Gift to Joe Biden



Firing Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger was a pretty great gift too.

It's going to be funny watching Biden* explain to his base why he gives them their jobs back.

6ix, I don't think you are sane, but all the people I know who defend Trump are plagued with multiple problems, either mental, marital, medical, dental, familial, financial, or spiritual, except for the rich Republican voters I know. It is because insane people attract problems like magnets attract iron or like sticky bug stripes attract flies. I'll give an example of historic crazy people -- the Confederates -- who brought down a well-deserved avalanche of trouble on themselves.

After Lincoln was elected but before he was inaugurated, the Confederates pulled out of the Union. Lincoln had done nothing, yet, but just his existence was too much for them. They were insane to promote/defend slavery. Likewise, Biden has done nothing, yet, but just his existence is too much for Trump's defenders. Mental problems or insanity, again. A very simple example of those mental problems:

Army bases are strewn throughout the American South and were named, in part, to help win support for the new installations in former Confederate territory. "It should be noted that the naming occurred in the spirit of reconciliation, not division," Brig. Gen. Malcolm B. Frost said in 2015 when pushing back against a name change at Fort Rucker, an Alabama site named for Confederate officer Edmund Rucker.

The Pentagon's hesitance transformed into acceptance over the summer, with Mark Esper, then the defense secretary, agreeing that the bases' names needed changing. Trump very much disagreed, having latched onto the fight over Confederate monuments and flying a Confederate battle flag as an easy way to earn points with his core voting bloc.

In June, Trump summed up his stance when he tweeted out his undying support for brave Confederate soldiers like Gen. Braxton Bragg, considered by historians to have been one of the most incompetent Southern generals, and Gen. Henry Benning, who argued that abolition of slavery would lead to the destruction of the white race, declaring, "Give me pestilence and famine sooner than that."

There are serious national security considerations — and a lot of money — on the line for what's essentially Trump’s bid to keep racists happy. It's worth wondering how much of this pettiness is based on Trump's own racist beliefs and how much of it is his angling for a 2024 presidential bid and wanting to ensure he doesn't alienate his base in the meantime? That's unclear, but the effect is the same either way: On his way out the door, Trump remains committed to tying his own legacy to that of the Confederacy, keeping the racist through line that's been present his entire time in office.

More at www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-crams-one-last-racist-policy-his-final-day
s-president-n1248736


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 30, 2020 10:47 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

6ix, I don't think you are sane, but all the people I know who defend Trump are plagued with multiple problems, either mental, marital, medical, dental, familial, financial, or spiritual, except for the rich Republican voters I know. It is because insane people attract problems like magnets attract iron or like sticky bug stripes attract flies. I'll give an example of historic crazy people -- the Confederates -- who brought down a well-deserved avalanche of trouble on themselves.




Although I would add being a Troll second to the list of problems Trumps supporters have.

T



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Monday, November 30, 2020 11:14 AM

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Monday, November 30, 2020 11:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, I don't think you are sane



Thanks for the prognosis, Dr. Fuckwit.



I couldn't possibly care any less about your opinions on the weather, let alone what you think of me.



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Monday, November 30, 2020 12:12 PM

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Monday, November 30, 2020 12:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ed: How much should we charge for this pizza?
Anne: $10!
Ty: 2 for $10!
Liz: $100!
Ed: Uggh.. I guess we have to charge $100 for the pizza.
Anne: Why?

Ty: Liz is from California. After we removed the Electoral College we let Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat urban shitholes and their terrible money management infect the entire nation and now nobody can afford to live anywhere anymore. $95 of the $100 we collect will go to the government for taxes even though we did all the work.

Anne: So we only get $1.25 each then?

Ty: No. We actually owe $1.25 each after paying for the ingredients and the overhead to run our restaurant.

[End Scene]

This has been the destruction of America in the alternate timeline where Democrats can actually manage to get enough people in power to get a Super Majority to end the Electoral College.



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Monday, November 30, 2020 1:22 PM

THG


Trump loses. Ain't life great JSF?

T



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Monday, November 30, 2020 3:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, I don't think you are sane



Thanks for the prognosis, Dr. Fuckwit.



I couldn't possibly care any less about your opinions on the weather, let alone what you think of me.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

Remember this posting of yours? I saved it under "Why 6ix family life was horrible."
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&mid=11086
72#1108672
Quote:

. . . And years and many horrible financial decisions later (and minus my dad's child support), they don't have much to their name, when they should probably have a couple of million saved up with all those years in the 401k and 20 years running a successful business. But they're basically retarded when it comes to money and they pissed it all away.

I've already let it be known to my brother that he and my pharmacist sister in law can foot her expenses when the time comes to put her in a home. I'm not paying a dime, and I'm sure as hell not giving her a place to live either.

Seriously. Why would anybody ever want to get married?

My parents did me a huge favor.

That's only a small part of the posting. 6ix, Sigmund Freud would say you have issues with parents and marriage and money. Or in fewer words, you are nuts, 6ix, but not as flamboyantly crazy as all the other Trump defenders I know in Texas. Amusingly, at least to me, they all think of themselves as hard workers and models of sanity and rectitude. They are not. It so funny how delusional they are about themselves.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 30, 2020 4:29 PM

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And where exactly did you get your Psychology degree again, Dr. Fuckwit?

They teach Psychology at fake Oil Tycoon/Cattle Rancher Business school then, do they?



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Monday, November 30, 2020 4:31 PM

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Just celebrating the liberation of the US from fascism.



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Monday, November 30, 2020 4:50 PM

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I don't blame you for being optimistic.

You might want to dial that back a bit and remain cautiously optimistic.

Just a suggestion.



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Monday, November 30, 2020 7:53 PM

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The rich are getting richer and everyone else is getting poorer. That is exactly the plan
https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/us-economy/?utm_source=&utm_mediu
m=email&utm_campaign=5979


Most of us have a quaint, 19th century idea about free markets and all that up-by-the-bootstraps Horatio Alger stuff. You know, work hard, play by the rules, keep your nose clean, and you'll do well. That is certainly the cultural myth our society bathes us in.

But that's not how things actually work. It's the dissonance between how we imagine things work and how they really work that causes our perplexity and angst, and rage. It is also that dissonance that has been so deftly manipulated by Donald Trump and given rise to Trumpism.

Forty years ago, around 1980, the uber-wealthy decided they wanted to get their money out of the economy. There was too much political turmoil (Vietnam, Watergate), too much economic turbulence (Arab oil embargos, stagflation), and too high of a cost of production (high wages, environmental and labor protections).

They wanted to take their money somewhere where they could pay people 1/20th what they paid here (less than $1 an hour), where there were no environmental or labor laws, where the workforce was plentiful, hungry, and docile, and where politicians could be bought cheap.



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Monday, November 30, 2020 8:57 PM

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I don't have any angst and rage.

Everything is copacetic here, buddy.


You should probably just stop enslaving yourself to debt for all that shit you don't need.

That is, assuming you haven't buried yourself so deep into it you can never get out. Especially since Bankruptcy won't get rid of all of those college loans for your CRT major.



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Quote:

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I don't have any angst and rage.


That's all you have.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't have any angst and rage.

Everything is copacetic here, buddy.


You should probably just stop enslaving yourself to debt for all that shit you don't need.

That is, assuming you haven't buried yourself so deep into it you can never get out. Especially since Bankruptcy won't get rid of all of those college loans for your CRT major.

6ix, you would NOT have over-praised the movie Joker and raged against Democrats who hated that movie if things were going as well as you claim.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10838
27#1083827

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


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Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:19 AM

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The most important book I’ve read this year
https://www.vox.com/2020/11/30/21726563/kim-stanley-robinson-the-ezra-
klein-show-climate-change


If I could get policymakers, and citizens, everywhere to read just one book this year, it would be Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future.

Best known for the Mars trilogy, Robinson is one of the greatest living science fiction writers. And in recent years, he’s become the greatest writer of what people now call cli-fi — climate fiction. The name is a bit of a misnomer: Climate fiction is less fictitious speculation than an attempt to envision a near future that we are likely to inhabit. It’s an attempt to take our present — and thus the future we’re ensuring — more seriously than we do. Robinson’s new book does exactly that.

In The Ministry for the Future, Robinson imagines a world wracked by climate catastrophe. Some nations begin unilateral geoengineering. Eco-violence arises as people begin to experience unchecked climate change as an act of war against them, and they respond in kind, using new technologies to hunt those they blame. Capitalism ruptures, changes, and is remade. Nations, and the relations between them, transform. Ultimately, humanity is successful, but it is a terrifying success — a success that involves making the kinds of choices that none of us want to even think about making.

This conversation with Robinson was fantastic. We discuss why the end of the world is easier to imagine than the end of capitalism; how changes to the biosphere will force humanity to rethink capitalism, borders, terrorism, and currency; the influence of eco-Marxism on Robinson’s thinking; how existing power relationships define the boundaries of what is considered violence; why science fiction as a discipline is particularly suited to grapple with climate change; what a complete rethinking of the global economic system could look like; why Robinson thinks geoengineering needs to be on the table; the vastly underrated importance of the Paris climate agreement, and much more.

https://www.vox.com/2020/11/30/21726563/kim-stanley-robinson-the-ezra-
klein-show-climate-change


The free book about what is ahead: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/fiction/?q=Kim+Stanley+Robinson+Ministry

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It may well be that Germans have a special inclination to panic at specters from the past, and I admit that this alarmism annoys me at times. Yet watching President Trump’s “Stop the Steal” campaign since Election Day, I can’t help but see a parallel to one of the most dreadful episodes from Germany’s history.

One hundred years ago, amid the implosions of Imperial Germany, powerful conservatives who led the country into war refused to accept that they had lost. Their denial gave birth to arguably the most potent and disastrous political lie of the 20th century — the Dolchstosslegende, or stab-in-the-back myth.

Its core claim was that Imperial Germany never lost World War I. Defeat, its proponents said, was declared but not warranted. It was a conspiracy, a con, a capitulation — a grave betrayal that forever stained the nation. That the claim was palpably false didn’t matter. Among a sizable number of Germans, it stirred resentment, humiliation and anger. And the one figure who knew best how to exploit their frustration was Adolf Hitler.

Don’t get me wrong: This is not about comparing Mr. Trump to Hitler, which would be absurd. But the Dolchstosslegende provides a warning. It’s tempting to dismiss Mr. Trump’s irrational claim that the election was “rigged” as a laughable last convulsion of his reign or a cynical bid to heighten the market value for the TV personality he might once again intend to become, especially as he appears to be giving up on his effort to overturn the election result.

But that would be a grave error. Instead, the campaign should be seen as what it is: an attempt to elevate “They stole it” to the level of legend, perhaps seeding for the future social polarization and division on a scale America has never seen.


Mr. Trump’s baseless accusations about electoral fraud could do serious harm. A staggering 88 percent of Trump voters believe that the election result is illegitimate, according to a YouGov poll. A myth of betrayal and injustice is well underway.

It took another war and decades of reappraisal for the Dolchstosslegende to be exposed as a disastrous, fatal fallacy. If it has any worth today, it is in the lessons it can teach other nations. First among them: Beware the beginnings.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20201201234106/https://www.nytimes.com/202
0/11/30/opinion/trump-conspiracy-germany-1918.html


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If Democratic Senate candidate Raphael Warnock is worried about the deluge of negative ads coming from Republican incumbent Kelly Loeffler and her allies, he isn’t letting Georgia voters see him sweat.

In a 30-second TV response, the 51-year-old pastor was shown walking his Beagle down a tree-lined suburban street holding a bag of dog feces while telling supporters he knew the “smear ads” were coming.

“Loeffler is trying to scare voters by taking things I’ve said out of context from over 25 years of being a pastor.

But I think Georgians will see her ads for what they are.”

Warnock dropped the bag into the trash and looked at the pup and asked:

“Don’t you?”

https://angrybearblog.com/2020/12/kelly-loefflers-smears-of-raphael-wa
rnock-are-met-with-a-metaphor.html


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The Show Is Over. The Fat Horror Is Still Here.

Defeating Trump was never going to be enough.

Open calls for martial law? Sure. Plans to disrupt the electoral count are floated. Deranged speech about throwing out votes? Why not? Out of the corners of my eyes I can see the White House superspreader Christmas events and clock the ranting and huffing of the almost-former commander in chief as he spreads chaos and doubt on his way out of office. It’s just another moneymaking venture, but holy hell, the cost to a functional future democracy is high.

We are still at the mercy of this guy who just won’t leave. It doesn’t matter if it’s meant to be a joke, or lavish slow-release trolling—it feels frightening to sit in this calm after the storm and imagine what the next storm will be. Maybe it’s what Trump will do with his followers after he leaves office, or maybe it’s what “sane” Republicans will do even after Trump is gone. We don’t know yet; all that we currently can see is that if this decisive election couldn’t bring relief, what can?

In a few weeks’ time, when Trump has squeezed the last penny out of the last true Trump enthusiasts, and several thousands more have died silently and pointlessly from a pandemic that we never addressed, Republican leadership will largely admit what it knew months earlier: that Joe Biden in fact won the election. Until then, we wait. There are, one gathers, still-lingering lawsuits. Trump has clawed back a transition in favor of a bonus period in which to loot and destroy. There appears to be no mechanism, legal or political, to stop him.

There is a fresh sadness to the way Trump’s actions since the election have solidified the reality that there is no normal to which to revert, no path back toward compromise, because the problem was never just Trump, even a Trump who declines to leave. The problem was a party and a country that backed him, and we still have one each of those, even when he is out the door.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201203175615/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/12/trump-show-finally-over.html


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Life After Trump

I’ve been basically optimistic about life after Trump. It’s certainly true that Trump is a symptom of the rot in the Republican Party, not a cause of it, and it’s also true that he has personally taken the party to a whole new level of toxicity. He could only do that because he’s a unique personality. I figured that once he was gone the party would forget he ever existed and quietly settle back into its usual role of kowtowing to millionaires and white evangelical Christians. Trump, I thought, was a blip, not a harbinger of things to come.

I still believe that, but only if Trump actually goes away.
That’s why stories like this unnerve me:

President Trump has raised $495 million since mid-October, with $207.5 million of it pouring in after Election Day — an extraordinary haul resulting from Trump’s post-election fundraising effort using a blizzard of misleading appeals about the integrity of the vote.

….Much of the money raised since the election probably will go into Save America, a political action committee that the president can use for various activities after he leaves office. Some of the contributions will go toward what is left of the president’s legal fights over the certification of election results, which have failed to gain traction in the courts.

If this really is pure grift, and Trump uses the money to build a new wing at Mar-a-Lago, I’ll breathe a sigh of relief. But probably not. This kind of fundraising suggests pretty strongly that Trump plans to stay very, very active—maybe on TV, maybe doing rallies, maybe creating a whole new cable channel just for himself and his buddies. And I don’t know how to think about that. If he does this, will he retain his deathlike grip on the Republican Party? Or will he eventually fade away, like Sarah Palin?

I don’t know. But I can say that I’m a little less optimistic than I used to be.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/12/how-long-will-it-be-until-donal
d-trump-goes-away
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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It’s certainly true that Trump is a symptom of the rot in the Democratic Party



FIFY

The sooner you figure that out, the better off the country will be.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It’s certainly true that Trump is a symptom of the rot in the Democratic Party



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The sooner you figure that out, the better off the country will be.

My understanding of the Democratic and Republican Parties is built using a different methodology than yours -- I look at the everyday and ordinary contrast between the lives of voters for Democrats versus voters for Republicans. For example: Democrats can smell and complain about the rotting cadavers that are Trump's tax returns. Republicans can't smell the corruption because of stuffy noses. Democrats want to dig up the shallow graves in Trump's backyard to see if he buried a squirrel or a dog or if he buried people he murdered. In contrast, Republicans think that what Trump buried is nobody's business, although it is stinking up the neighborhood.

Trump tax cheating
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+tax+cheating

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AOC Shuts Down Republican Critics of Her ‘Tax the Rich’ Merch With a Perfect Comeback
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A little Deadhead humor. 3 songs that are often segued together.




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Critics of Canceling Student Debt Aren’t Afraid It Won’t Work—They’re Afraid It Will
https://fair.org/home/critics-of-cancelling-student-debt-arent-afraid-
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The business media’s fairness argument against forgiving student debts is made in bad faith: Canceling student debt doesn’t negate other policies that would benefit blue-collar workers or the unemployed. Sanders voters who want to forgive student debt also support increased jobless benefits and stimulus payouts across the board, as well as universal healthcare, which would untether medical costs from employment.



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