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"A psychopath": Psychologists call Trump the "most psychiatrically disordered president in history"

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:37 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Exactly. We can include the Clintons and Bidens as international money- launderers. SECONDRATE seems to think only Trump is corrupt.



So, should we put the Clintons and Biden’s in jail?

Note how the Russian troll always fails to mention that Trump is far more guilty of all this shit than anyone he ever tries to mention.

Russian trolls are such miserable pieces of shit. They have no morals, no convictions, no beliefs. Just shit for brains.



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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:37 PM

SIGNYM

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If they've committed crimes, yes.

But let's do this even-handedly, not as party of some politically motivated frenzy.

But more importantly we need to change our tax and incorporation laws that create so many loopholes (like "foundations" that carry on the company business under the banner of charitable work, or operate as pay-to-play schemes) and remove the concept of corporate personhood that provide corporations with all of the protections of being human (eg "free speech" rights, privacy rights) with none of the accountability of being an actual, live person.



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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just as an aside, I think I'm going to start a list of all of the lies that were told about Trump. There have been so many, we're at risk of forgetting them. Two recent ones that have slipped out of sight:

Trump did not call soldiers "losers"

Russia was NOT paying a bounty to Afghani jihadists to kill American soldiers.

The number of out and out fabrications polish about Trump is astonishing.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:50 PM

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Originally posted:
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Exactly. We can include the Clintons and Bidens as international money- launderers. SECONDRATE seems to think only Trump is corrupt.

So, should we put the Clintons and Biden’s in jail?

Note how the Russian troll always fails to mention that Trump is far more guilty of all this shit than anyone he ever tries to mention.

Russian trolls are such miserable pieces of shit. They have no morals, no convictions, no beliefs. Just shit for brains.

ReaverBot is starting to sound like second. Did somebody forget which account they logged into?

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:52 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Exactly. We can include the Clintons and Bidens as international money- launderers. SECONDRATE seems to think only Trump is corrupt.

Tax cheating is contagious.

Did you know that tax collection is down? It is not simply the pandemic because it started at the beginning of Trump's term, not this year. The rich are following Trump's example of not paying all their taxes. They know, even without having seen his 10 years of returns before 2016 or his 3 years since then, that Trump is cheating and he is getting away with it because IRS auditing of the rich is a joke.

Tax collection is Trump's responsibility. If Trump was not crazy, he would not be sending out these LOUD signals to all wealthy taxpayers that they can follow his criminal example and also not pay. Who is paying?

Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, in a break with Donald Trump, released a decade's worth of tax returns Friday.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mike-pence-tax-returns-227980

Upper echelon cheating is spreading to mid echelon taxpayers. Trump's example of cheating spread to his mild-mannered V.P.: Vice President Mike Pence has filed three tax returns since taking office, but he hasn't publicly released any of them.
www.wsj.com/articles/pences-tax-returns-like-trumps-stay-out-of-sight-
11556011800


I realize that paying taxes is not important to 1kiki and Signym since trolls don't pay for the vast programs they want passed by Congress. 6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:07 PM

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:35 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Just as an aside, I think I'm going to start a list of all of the lies that were told about Trump. There have been so many, we're at risk of forgetting them. Two recent ones that have slipped out of sight:

Trump did not call soldiers "losers"

Russia was NOT paying a bounty to Afghani jihadists to kill American soldiers.

The number of out and out fabrications polish about Trump is astonishing.



Let's not forget those 'executions" that Donald ordered (er, no. But Obama did.)

Or those "secret police" that were all "contractors" that were doing illegal sweeps nd holding people in secret detention (We can credit GWB for that one)

Or all of the politically-motivated investigations and prosecutions of donald's enemies, calling on the FBI and foreign governments to concoct evidence. (Obama, again).

Or what about "quid pro quo" with Ukraine? (Not Trump, but we have Biden on video bragging about that very same thing.)

Bribe money paid by Russia to Trump? (Paid to Hunter Biden, not Trump)

Operating a foundation for non-charitable purposes? (Hillary)

"Children in cages"? (Obama)

Ruining the economy? (Offshoring jobs to China. Nixon, Bush1, Clinton, Bush2, Obama)

Global climae shift?
Forest mismanagement?
Federal deficit?
Wealth gap?
Monopolization in every sector?
Militarization of the police?
Tax evasion and gross tax preferences for the elites and their corporations?
Constitution=shredding?
Racial preferences?

Just about every problem that everyone is griping about has been many DECADES in the making, sometimes centuries. To blame this all on Trump is delusion.

In fact, recently, Dems have accused Trump so often, and so exactly, of what THEY themselves were doing that I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't part of a long-term plan to innoculate themselves against those very same charges.


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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:41 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Exactly. We can include the Clintons and Bidens as international money- launderers. SECONDRATE seems to think only Trump is corrupt.

Tax cheating is contagious.

I guess Donald caught it from Hillary.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:02 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Just as an aside, I think I'm going to start a list of all of the lies that were told about Trump. There have been so many, we're at risk of forgetting them. Two recent ones that have slipped out of sight:

Trump did not call soldiers "losers"


It is literally impossible for you to know that. Way to destroy your credibility.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia was NOT paying a bounty to Afghani jihadists to kill American


It is literally impossible for you to know that. You’re such a loser.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
The number of out and out fabrications polish about Trump is astonishing.



^You added 2 more.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:10 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SignyM:
If they've committed crimes, yes.

But let's do this even-handedly, not as party of some politically motivated frenzy.



Great - put them all in jail! Start with the current president - shouldn’t have a criminal making decisions for the country. This isn’t Russia!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
But more importantly we need to change our tax and incorporation laws that create so many loopholes (like "foundations" that carry on the company business under the banner of charitable work, or operate as pay-to-play schemes) and remove the concept of corporate personhood that provide corporations with all of the protections of being human (eg "free speech" rights, privacy rights) with none of the accountability of being an actual, live person.



Ok - get a man on it.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SignyM:
Just as an aside, I think I'm going to start a list of all of the lies that were told about Trump. There have been so many, we're at risk of forgetting them. Two recent ones that have slipped out of sight:

Trump did not call soldiers "losers"

CC: It is literally impossible for you to know that. Way to destroy your credibility.

THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAID HE DIDN'T. And that includes John Bolton, who is not Trump's friend. So who're you gonna believe: "anonymous" sources who refuse to go on record, or people who were there who went on record denying the allegation?

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SignyM: Russia was NOT paying a bounty to Afghani jihadists to kill American

CC: It is literally impossible for you to know that. You’re such a loser.

The Pentagon generals (no great friends to Trump) as well as the NSA (also no great friend of Trump) have looked deeply into the matter and say this is not so. Also, logically one would want to know why Russia would be spending money on paying for something Afghani jihadis have been doing voluntarily and with great gusto for 20 years?

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by SignyM:
The number of out and out fabrications [published] about Trump is astonishing.

CCC: You added 2 more.



I added a lot more than that.

You're such a loser.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:05 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Exactly. We can include the Clintons and Bidens as international money- launderers. SECONDRATE seems to think only Trump is corrupt.

Tax cheating is contagious.

I guess Donald caught it from Hillary.

The tax cheating contagion is spread by the Chief Tax Collector, Trump, to wealthy Americans. From evidence, Trump has been cheating before Hillary married Bill Clinton. Trump was a multi-millionaire as a child who was tax cheating back then and he got more crooked as he grew up:
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html


Trump’s taxes, revealed at last by the New York Times on Sunday, are not a scandal. Instead, they are an explosion of many scandals, like a huge fireworks display on the Fourth of July. Gigantic scandals, teeny scandals, medium-sized scandals — so many scandals that it’s hard to keep track of every individual act of malfeasance.

Let’s give it a shot, though. Here’s a list of the various appalling aspects of Trump’s taxes, and how they rate in comparison with each other:
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/28/donald-trump-taxes/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:53 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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SignyM:
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAID HE DIDN'T. And that includes John Bolton, who is not Trump's friend. So who're you gonna believe: "anonymous" sources who refuse to go on record, or people who were there who went on record denying the allegation?



People who were there?!? Where there? They followed Trump everywhere, all day and night? You're f*cking nuts. Chalk up another lie for Trump.

BTW - you're an anonymous source.

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SignyM: The Pentagon generals (no great friends to Trump) as well as the NSA (also no great friend of Trump) have looked deeply into the matter and say this is not so. Also, logically one would want to know why Russia would be spending money on paying for something Afghani jihadis have been doing voluntarily and with great gusto for 20 years?



So now you're trusting Pentagon generals and the NSA?

Afghani jihadis are made up of Afghanis that will shoot anyone for the right amount of money. The shoot people A in the morning, and then shoot people B in the afternoon for more money - See: "The Forever War." Of course they shoot people for money. The more important point is you being a lying sack as usual. Don't you have anything better to do?

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:29 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump will go ‘straight to prison’ if full tax returns ever come out, Cohen says
The former Trump lawyer and fixer says it’s the president’s “biggest fear”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-will-go-straig
ht-prison-if-full-tax-returns-ever-come-out-cohen-says-b702235.html?utm_source=reddit.com


“Trump's biggest fear is that if his tax return is released, that there's a whole slew of organizations, of accountants and forensic accountants, that will rip through it and he will end up with a massive tax bill, fraud penalties, fines and possibly even tax fraud,” Cohen told The Daily Mail.

"Based on what I know and what has now been reported, he may soon be the first sitting president to go from the White House straight to prison.”
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That's assuming this is still a representative democracy, of course. Not so sure about that...



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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People who were there?!? Where there? They followed Trump everywhere, all day and night? You're f*cking nuts.
Maybe you should read what was alleged. It's about a specific time and place, not an allegation that covers a possible lifetime of comments.

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When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain

People who were there, willing to go on record, said this did not happen
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, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit
So, this is about a specific time and place where seniors staff memberS [plural] were present
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Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
People were there. Lots of people. This was not Trump talking to himself in the dead of night. THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAID TRUMP SAID NO SUCH THING.

And also, your logic cuts both ways. If nobody was around to verify what he didn't say, nobody was around to verify what he DID say either, leaving you with no evidence whatsoever.

You're such a loser.

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So now you're trusting Pentagon generals and the NSA?
THEY have no reason to cover for Trump, but there are a lot of people who're willing to stab Trump in the back. So following cui bono? it stands to reason that the backstabbers have something to gain by lying, and those who say it DIDN'T happen have nothing to gain by lying.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:33 AM

SIGNYM

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From evidence, Trump has been cheating before Hillary married Bill Clinton. Trump was a multi-millionaire as a child who was tax cheating back then
Trump was tax cheating as a child??? He signed those tax forms himself at the age of ... eight? Ten? Twelve?

Wow, you have LOST IT.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:57 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump was bankrupt in the 80s and Russia gave him millions. Now Trump owes "someone" $421 million dollars through Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank is involved in a huge scandal about laundering dirty Russian mafia money by funneling it to American businessmen = Trump works for Putin.

Russia's Operation Infektion.





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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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From evidence, Trump has been cheating before Hillary married Bill Clinton. Trump was a multi-millionaire as a child who was tax cheating back then
Trump was tax cheating as a child??? He signed those tax forms himself at the age of ... eight? Ten? Twelve?

Wow, you have LOST IT.

Signym, you didn't read anything about Trump's long-term tax-cheating, did you?
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html


I still have my original tax return from when I was 12 years old in 1964. My income was $1,049.55 (I was a paperboy). My taxes were $19.00. I saved the pencil version of the form and sent in the ink version. It is my signature on the bottom line, not my mother or father or accountant signature. I knew perfectly well what I was doing. I don't doubt that teenager Donald Trump knew that his father was using Donald's tax returns to cheat and transfer assets to his favorite son. Like father, like son. Donald never stopped cheating.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:00 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

People who were there?!? Where there? They followed Trump everywhere, all day and night? You're f*cking nuts.
Maybe you should read what was alleged. It's about a specific time and place, not an allegation that covers a possible lifetime of comments.

Quote:

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain

People who were there, willing to go on record, said this did not happen
Quote:

, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit
So, this is about a specific time and place where seniors staff memberS [plural] were present
Quote:

Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
People were there. Lots of people. This was not Trump talking to himself in the dead of night. THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAID TRUMP SAID NO SUCH THING.

And also, your logic cuts both ways. If nobody was around to verify what he didn't say, nobody was around to verify what he DID say either, leaving you with no evidence whatsoever.

You're such a loser.



You're such a bad liar.

There were people around to hear him say those things.
"While The Atlantic was the first to report the allegations about Trump's comments on the cemetery visit, two sources confirmed some of Trump's remarks to the Associated Press: A senior Defense Department official with firsthand knowledge of the events and a senior U.S. Marine Corps officer who was told about Trump’s comments."

"The Atlantic story also details other disturbing incidents: that Trump railed against lowering American flags after Sen. John McCain’s death because McCain “was a fucking loser,” and that during a Memorial Day visit in 2017 to the grave of then-Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly’s son, who was killed in Afghanistan in 2010, Trump asked why anyone would volunteer to serve in the military. “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” he asked the fallen Marine’s father."

The canceled trip isn’t the only scene the Atlantic reported on. Here’s a quick list with the main revelations:

During that same trip, Trump asked his staff, “Who were the good guys in this war?” — that is, World War I — and why the US would intervene to help allies during the fight.
Per three unnamed sources “with direct knowledge,” Trump didn’t want his administration to support McCain’s funeral (to which the president wasn’t invited). “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” Trump told aides, and then got upset when he saw flags at half-mast: “What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser.”
Three unnamed sources “with direct knowledge” also confirm that Trump — on at least two occasions — referred to former President George H.W. Bush as a “loser” for getting shot down as a Navy pilot in Japan during World War II.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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So now you're trusting Pentagon generals and the NSA?
THEY have no reason to cover for Trump...



Weak. Getting "re-assigned," being Twitter shamed, loyalty to the office at all costs, integrity - all things foreign to Trump - they had plenty of reasons.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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cc: People who were there?!? Where there?
ON THAT TRIP TO FRANCE, DUMBO.

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They followed Trump everywhere, all day and night? You're f*cking nuts.

SIGNY: Maybe you should read what was alleged. It's about a specific time and place, not an allegation that covers a possible lifetime of comments.

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THE ATLANTIC
When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain...

People who were there, ON THAT TRIP, willing to go on record, said this did not happen
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THE ATLANTIC
...and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit...

So, this is about a specific time and place where seniors staff memberS [plural] were present

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THE ATLANTIC
...Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

People were there. Lots of people. This was not Trump talking to himself in the dead of night. THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE SAID TRUMP SAID NO SUCH THING.

And also, your logic cuts both ways. If nobody was around to verify what he didn't say, nobody was around to verify what he DID say either, leaving you with no evidence whatsoever.

You're such a loser.

CC: You're such a bad liar.

No, YOU'RE such a bad liar. Are you sure this is the hill you want to die on?

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There were people around to hear him say those things.
"While The Atlantic was the first to report the allegations about Trump's comments on the cemetery visit, two sources

Two (anonymous) of the four who (anonymously) alleged this in the first place? How do YOU know these are "independent" confirmations?

You don't.

Meanwhile ...

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John Bolton shoots down Atlantic story saying Trump called soldiers ‘losers’: ‘I was there’; ‘I didn’t hear that’

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/john-bolton-shoots-down-atlantic-s
tory-saying-trump-called-soldiers-losers
/

search on it, there are oodles and oodles of sources.

In addition to Bolton, Press Scy Hogan Gidley, said
Quote:

That is a disgusting grotesque lie. I was there. The president never said that. And he would never even think such a vile thought because I know from firsthand knowledge that the president absolutely loves, respects, and reveres the brave men and women of the U.S. military,"


cbsn-fusion-trump-denies-calling-fallen-soldiers-suckers-and-losers-thumbnail-541819-640x360.jpg

Defense Secretary Mark Esper issued the following statement.
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"President Trump has the highest respect and admiration for our nation's military members, veterans and families. That is why he has fought for greater pay and more funding for our armed forces," Esper said in a statement issued to the media.


Jordan Karem, who was the president's former director of oval operations served and his "body man" before he left the White House in 2018, said that he was with the president for the majority of the day when the commemoration at the cemetery was to take place and denied that the president had uttered the remarks alleged by the Atlantic. Karem said Mr. Trump never called the American soldiers buried in France "losers" and called the story
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"100% false. I was with the president the whole day, and he was greatly disappointed that we couldn't go,"


CBS News
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did obtain a copy of an email showing there was a bad weather call that day for the flight, a message sent from someone in the U.S. Marine Corps.


All together, according to people who track such things, 21 people - many o whom were with Trump- have denied on the record that Trump ever said such a thing.

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Monday, December 11, 2023 11:31 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Kissinger finally dead

regions of Israel and Gaza / Palestine looks a psychiatric Waring disorder

I thought Presidents Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Ford and Rockefeller, Chester A Arthur, Widrow Wilson, Martin Van Burren would rank up there.

Different to beat foreigners who bring a whole other level of psycho, North Korea, German Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, Ivan the Terrible

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