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REAVERBOT: A White armed vigilante identified as Kyle Rittenhouse, aka, Kyle Lewis, 17, from Antioch. Illinois was video recorded just before 2:00 a.m. fatally shooting a protester in the head.

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Bullshitters have made false claims before, like "Haner was trying to run people down" and "Covington students assault Native elder".


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Kyle Rittenhouse surrendered to the Antioch Police Department on Wednesday morning after a warrant for his arrest was issued in Kenosha County, Wisconsin for 1st-degree intentional homicide for the murder of Anthony Huber, 26, of Silver Lake, Joseph "Jojo" Rosenbaum, 36, of Kenosha, WI, and also wounding Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, of West Allis, WI

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These are the three people that I could see on the video where Kyle Lewis was shooting at people who jumped him

Where is the person listed that he (supposedly) shot in the head?

Contraditory information, not probative. Still waiting more evidence of a murder

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CC: ... should get instant jail time, "until we decide to let you go."

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"WE" decide?
What means this "we", kimo sabe?
YOU?

Indefinite detention without trial?

I'm sure you imagine that "everyone" can agree to this, but it violates at least three different Amendments of the first ten of the Contitution (First, Second and Fifth)! Maybe even more, if I think about it.

For all of the whinging that [some] people do about TRUMP!CONSTITUTION! they sure do seem mighty willing to trample on it when it suits their needs!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just OOC, what was your reaction to the NFAC?

Did you send up a silent cheer because FINALLY a group with balls - and guns - showed up to contest a (supposedly) armed white group? Or did your butt pucker a little, and did you think Oh dear. People bringing guns to a protest? Just wondering how consistent you are on the idea of guns and protests.

Anyway, as you know, I don't believe in violence except for defense of self and others. But when you're being attacked, you SHOULD be able to defend yourself with deadly force.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OTOH I do have sympathy for SIX's approach. It might quell the violence. Needs some thought.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I agree with SIX: these rioters are treating this like some sort of video game or TV show. They have no REAL WORLD experience.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hmmmmm...

From those pics it looks like Kyle is less white than Kamala Harris is black.

I'm sure that is going to screw with the Legacy Media narrative on this one.

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CC: ... should get instant jail time, "until we decide to let you go."

SIGNYM: "WE" decide?
What means this "we", kimo sabe?
YOU?
Indefinite detention without trial?
I'm sure you imagine that "everyone" can agree to this, but it violates at least three different Amendments of the first ten of the Contitution (First, Second and Fifth)! Maybe even more, if I think about it.
For all of the whinging that [some] people do about TRUMP!CONSTITUTION! they sure do seem mighty willing to trample on it when it suits their needs!

CC: It's in quotes, Karen - that means it's an expression. We've been through this before, like first day of class. Didn't they learn you no good English?

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SIGNYM: Just OOC, what was your reaction to the NFAC?
Did you send up a silent cheer because FINALLY a group with balls - and guns - showed up to contest a (supposedly) armed white group? Or did your butt pucker a little, and did you think Oh dear. People bringing guns to a protest? Just wondering how consistent you are on the idea of guns and protests.

Anyway, as you know, I don't believe in violence except for defense of self and others. But when you're being attacked, you SHOULD be able to defend yourself with deadly force.

CC: Please, Karen, you're getting hysterical. We've been through this before as well: I hate guns. They make stupid & weak people even more dangerous. Just more proof that Trump's America is almost broken and he can't fix it.

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SIGNYM:
OTOH I do have sympathy for SIX's approach. It might quell the violence. Needs some thought.

CC: Like it did in this case??? Have you read any of the posts? More guns equal more guns equal more death and violence - just what you want, I guess.

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SIGNYM:
I agree with SIX: these rioters are treating this like some sort of video game or TV show. They have no REAL WORLD experience

CC: That's right - Jack thinks it's a game. These young men feel just as detached as 6, but more invincible - that's a big reason why armies draft them.

Anyone there with a gun that's not law enforcement should be arrested and locked up "forever."

No guns.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I know I've been harping on this for a while, but I think the police should round everybody up - and people who can PROVE they're from the hood get let go (unless they were doing something violent or destructive), while everyone else gets held for 72 hours.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I noticed BTW that two of the three shooting victims are from OUTSIDE of Kenosha, and all three have serious criminal records

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Rittenhouse traveled to Kenosha with his AR-15 in order to protect small business owners and citizens who were being victimized after being abandoned by their state government and police.

Footage obtained by anti-extremism watchdog AntifaWatch shows the first shooting. In the video, a masked man named Joseph D. Rosenbaum is shown chasing Rittenhouse and throwing what some have claimed may have been an improvised explosive, but this has not yet been confirmed. Rittenhouse then shot Rosenbaum in the head as he charged and tried to take his rifle, an injury the attacker later died of.

Earlier in the night, Rosenbaum, who is Jewish, was shown violently antagonizing the armed men, shouting “Shoot me, Nigga!”

After Rosenbaum was shot, a mob of anarchists pursued Rittenhouse as he attempted to flee. The young man then fell to the ground as the “antifa” members began attacking him. Rittenhouse opened fire against two of the attackers, one who was armed with a handgun.

One member of the gang, Anthony W. Huber, died after being shot in the chest. The armed assailant, Gaige Paul Grosskreutz, suffered a gruesome gunshot wound to the arm but survived.

The media has jumped into action to paint Rittenhouse as a white supremacist domestic terrorist and the anarchists who were shot as innocent “peaceful protesters.” But the facts bring this narrative into question.

Joseph Don Rosenbaum

According to public records, Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum has a long history of violence.

Rosenbaum was convicted in Arizona in 2002 for committing an act of sexual misconduct with a child. According to his entry in the sex offender registry, he was a level 3 offender, meaning he was at a high risk of reoffending and a general danger to his surroundings. Arizona Department of Corrections records reveal that Rosenbaum spent 12 1/2 years in prison after being convicted of two counts of 3rd degree sexual misconduct against a minor and one count of interfering with a monitoring device. For sexual misconduct with a minor to reach the level of class 3 felony, the victim must be under the age of 15.

More telling is Rosenbaum’s 42 separate disciplinary infractions while incarcerated including numerous assaults, committing sex acts and stalking, manufacturing a weapon, and arson. He was then released in 2016. According to records from the Wisconsin Circuit Court, Rosenbaum had pending charges for battery as domestic abuse filed just last month.

Anthony W. Huber

Anthony M. Huber, the second anarchist who died at the scene, is promoted as a hero by for-profit “charity” business Go Fund Me. His girlfriend has raised almost $70,000 in his name. Public records show that Huber was in fact a violent criminal with a history of abusing his loved ones.

In 2012, Huber pled guilty to false imprisonment with a dangerous weapon and strangulation as domestic abuse. He appears to have violated the terms of his probation in 2016 and was sentenced to two years in state prison, most of it with time served. Huber was arrested again in 2018 for battery.

The woman fundraising in his name, Hannah J Gittings, currently has a warrant out for her arrest for refusing a breathalyzer while driving drunk and driving with a revoked license.

Gaige Paul Grosskreutz

Gaige P. Grosskreutz, a pistol wielding anarchist in his 40s who was shot in the arm while attacking the teenaged Rittenhouse, was charged with felony burglary and theft in 2013. He violated his probation just 4 months later. He has another arrest from 2017. It is unclear from public records if Grosskreutz was ever convicted of a felony. If so, his possession of a firearm is a serious offense that could net him 10 years in prison.

According to a media puff piece, Grosskreutz was a professional activist with Milwaukee based “People’s Revolution,” a more extreme breakaway from the Black Lives Matter NGO. Virtually no mainstream media reporting on this incident has mentioned any of this information when reporting on GrossKreutz, Rosenbaum or Huber.

The strong anti-social and violent streak exemplified by these individuals — who were active participants in a violent riot and clear instigators in the shootings –is common among the rank-and-file of “antifa.”

Journalists hired by elite media may side with them against a 17-year-old boy engaging in self-defense, but it remains to be seen if America will.

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Here is another angle on the events

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Rittenhouse traveled to Kenosha with his AR-15 in order to protect small business owners and citizens who were being victimized after being abandoned by their state government and police.

Footage obtained by anti-extremism watchdog AntifaWatch shows the first shooting. In the video, a masked man named Joseph D. Rosenbaum is shown chasing Rittenhouse and throwing what some have claimed may have been an improvised explosive, but this has not yet been confirmed. Rittenhouse then shot Rosenbaum in the head as he charged and tried to take his rifle, an injury the attacker later died of.

Earlier in the night, Rosenbaum, who is Jewish, was shown violently antagonizing the armed men, shouting “Shoot me, Nigga!”

After Rosenbaum was shot, a mob of anarchists pursued Rittenhouse as he attempted to flee. The young man then fell to the ground as the “antifa” members began attacking him. Rittenhouse opened fire against two of the attackers, one who was armed with a handgun.

One member of the gang, Anthony W. Huber, died after being shot in the chest. The armed assailant, Gaige Paul Grosskreutz, suffered a gruesome gunshot wound to the arm but survived.

The media has jumped into action to paint Rittenhouse as a white supremacist domestic terrorist and the anarchists who were shot as innocent “peaceful protesters.” But the facts bring this narrative into question.

Joseph Don Rosenbaum

According to public records, Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum has a long history of violence.

Rosenbaum was convicted in Arizona in 2002 for committing an act of sexual misconduct with a child. According to his entry in the sex offender registry, he was a level 3 offender, meaning he was at a high risk of reoffending and a general danger to his surroundings. Arizona Department of Corrections records reveal that Rosenbaum spent 12 1/2 years in prison after being convicted of two counts of 3rd degree sexual misconduct against a minor and one count of interfering with a monitoring device. For sexual misconduct with a minor to reach the level of class 3 felony, the victim must be under the age of 15.

More telling is Rosenbaum’s 42 separate disciplinary infractions while incarcerated including numerous assaults, committing sex acts and stalking, manufacturing a weapon, and arson. He was then released in 2016. According to records from the Wisconsin Circuit Court, Rosenbaum had pending charges for battery as domestic abuse filed just last month.

Anthony W. Huber

Anthony M. Huber, the second anarchist who died at the scene, is promoted as a hero by for-profit “charity” business Go Fund Me. His girlfriend has raised almost $70,000 in his name. Public records show that Huber was in fact a violent criminal with a history of abusing his loved ones.

In 2012, Huber pled guilty to false imprisonment with a dangerous weapon and strangulation as domestic abuse. He appears to have violated the terms of his probation in 2016 and was sentenced to two years in state prison, most of it with time served. Huber was arrested again in 2018 for battery.

The woman fundraising in his name, Hannah J Gittings, currently has a warrant out for her arrest for refusing a breathalyzer while driving drunk and driving with a revoked license.

Gaige Paul Grosskreutz

Gaige P. Grosskreutz, a pistol wielding anarchist in his 40s who was shot in the arm while attacking the teenaged Rittenhouse, was charged with felony burglary and theft in 2013. He violated his probation just 4 months later. He has another arrest from 2017. It is unclear from public records if Grosskreutz was ever convicted of a felony. If so, his possession of a firearm is a serious offense that could net him 10 years in prison.

According to a media puff piece, Grosskreutz was a professional activist with Milwaukee based “People’s Revolution,” a more extreme breakaway from the Black Lives Matter NGO. Virtually no mainstream media reporting on this incident has mentioned any of this information when reporting on GrossKreutz, Rosenbaum or Huber.

The strong anti-social and violent streak exemplified by these individuals — who were active participants in a violent riot and clear instigators in the shootings –is common among the rank-and-file of “antifa.”

Journalists hired by elite media may side with them against a 17-year-old boy engaging in self-defense, but it remains to be seen if America will.

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All of this is a matter of record. Close examination of the various videos, as well as eyewitness accounts, audio recordings etc will determine who is at fault.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Anyone there with a gun that's not law enforcement should be arrested and locked up "forever."

No guns.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Anyone there with a gun that's not law enforcement should be arrested and locked up "forever."

No guns.

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That ain't how the world works, son.

And you probably should have fucking thought about this before you were calling to defund the police and send social workers to people's houses.

You don't get to have it both ways. And you get what you fucking deserve.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Anyone there with a gun that's not law enforcement should be arrested and locked up "forever."

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That ain't how the world works, son.

And you probably should have fucking thought about this before you were calling to defund the police and send social workers to people's houses.

You don't get to have it both ways. And you get what you fucking deserve.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by second:
Fox News host Tucker Carlson, right-wing commentator Ann Coulter, and former San Francisco Giants player Aubrey Huff all defended the 17-year-old suspect arrested Wednesday for allegedly killing two protestors and wounding a third. The violent scuffle with demonstrators protesting the police shooting of Jacob Blake earlier this week was caught on cellphone video Tuesday night and quickly went viral.

The young man, a police admirer from Illinois who was taken into custody on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide in the Wisconsin shooting, was identified as Kyle Rittenhouse.

And Carlson, Coulter and Huff’s responses shocked many on social media for appearing to justify the killing of fellow Americans.

Huff called Rittenhouse “a national treasure” in a now-deleted tweet.

Coulter tweeted, “I want him as my president.”

And Carlson devoted air time on his Wednesday evening program to ask, “How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?” He argued that the Kenosha authorities were responsible for abandoning the city, and “refused to enforce the law.”

www.marketwatch.com/story/ann-coulter-tucker-carlson-and-aubrey-huff-s
lammed-for-defending-the-teen-suspected-of-killing-two-kenosha-protestors-2020-08-27

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Jesus. These people are completely insane.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Anyone there with a gun that's not law enforcement should be arrested and locked up "forever."

No guns.

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That ain't how the world works, son.

And you probably should have fucking thought about this before you were calling to defund the police and send social workers to people's houses.

You don't get to have it both ways. And you get what you fucking deserve.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by second:
Fox News host Tucker Carlson, right-wing commentator Ann Coulter, and former San Francisco Giants player Aubrey Huff all defended the 17-year-old suspect arrested Wednesday for allegedly killing two protestors and wounding a third. The violent scuffle with demonstrators protesting the police shooting of Jacob Blake earlier this week was caught on cellphone video Tuesday night and quickly went viral.

The young man, a police admirer from Illinois who was taken into custody on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide in the Wisconsin shooting, was identified as Kyle Rittenhouse.

And Carlson, Coulter and Huff’s responses shocked many on social media for appearing to justify the killing of fellow Americans.

Huff called Rittenhouse “a national treasure” in a now-deleted tweet.

Coulter tweeted, “I want him as my president.”

And Carlson devoted air time on his Wednesday evening program to ask, “How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?” He argued that the Kenosha authorities were responsible for abandoning the city, and “refused to enforce the law.”

www.marketwatch.com/story/ann-coulter-tucker-carlson-and-aubrey-huff-s
lammed-for-defending-the-teen-suspected-of-killing-two-kenosha-protestors-2020-08-27

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Jesus. These people are completely insane.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Look's like the kid has already had over $100k raised for his legal fees, despite GoFundMe taking down several fundraisers for him.

A legal team which includes lawyers behind the successful cases for Sandmann vs. lying Legacy Media will be defending him as well, and he won't be stuck with public defenders who's job it is to lose cases.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state - unless you are in your home, you have a duty to retreat.

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, self defense cannot be used as a defense against murder charges if you were committing a crime at the time you used lethal force.

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Wisconsin is not a stand your ground state - unless you are in your home, you have a duty to retreat.

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If reports are to be believed, Kyle was running away. You can't "retreat" any more than that!

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, self defense cannot be used as a defense against murder charges if you were committing a crime at the time you used lethal force.

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So, what "crime" was Kyle committing?

Aside from being white, that is?

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So his crime was that he was running away while carrying an illegal weapon.

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SPD: Rioters tried to trap officers inside burning precinct using rebar and concrete
VIDEO:Police say rioters tried to trap officers inside burning precinct using rebar and concrete

By: Gary Horcher, KIRO 7 News
Updated: August 25, 2020 - 11:37 PM

SEATTLE — Seattle police officers were forced to kick their way out of an East Precinct exit door Monday night, after rioters jammed it with boards and rebar, and attempted to seal the door closed with quick-dry cement.

As the door was being jammed, surveillance video shows several other people building a fire outside the building near the exit door, in an attempt to set the building on fire.

"I think what this shows you is that these people are intent on killing police officers," said Mike Solan, president of the Seattle Police Guild, who called the act '"clear domestic terrorism.'"

"We're being held hostage by a group of 100 to 150 people that are bent on destroying this city and hurting police officers," Solan said.

Solan said a short time later, the Guild headquarters also became the target of three firebombs. "Our surveillance video captured two individuals scouting our location for several hours," Solan said.

Surveillance video from that location shows one of the firebombs bursting, igniting the building's rear stairway in flames, before officers were able to extinguish the fire.

Solan said officers are dispirited when no- one in city leadership denounces these attacks.

"That's why it's incumbent upon our elected officials to put a stop to this immediately," he said. "How can city leaders be so feckless? It can't just be on the officers. This is an absolute overthrow attempt of some of our government institutions, and police are in the way. They or the officers will get hurt or killed so they can put forth that agenda."

Solan believes the attacks on officers will escalate, but officers must focus on jobs outside of protecting themselves and their buildings from arson attacks.

“They’re not going to bully us into submission,” he said. “They’re not going to bully this community into submission.”

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Remember: every example of violence Donald Trump decries has happened on his watch. Under his leadership. During his presidency.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So you REJECT NFAC?

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SIGNYM:
One way to end chaos is with overwhelming force. But it has to be overwhelming: you can't have anywhere near- equivalent forces, otherwise you'll just have a firefight.

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SIGNYM:
So there you are, doubling down on Constitution- stomping.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And you probably should have fucking thought about this before you were calling to defund the police and send social workers to people's houses.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

IT IS ANOTHER INCIDENT OF 'PEACEFUL PROTESTERS' TRYING TO BURN PEOPLE ALIVE INSIDE OF A BUILDING

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SPD: Rioters tried to trap officers inside burning precinct using rebar and concrete
VIDEO:Police say rioters tried to trap officers inside burning precinct using rebar and concrete

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NOT REPORTED BY CNN

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And you probably should have fucking thought about this before you were calling to defund the police and send social workers to people's houses.

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Jack's Covid fever brain about to explode. Lying, making sh*t up, and insults seem to be his only responses. Or being hysterical. What's your dress size by the way?

Sorry, I never called to defund the police. In fact, I said the opposite. You even quoted me an agreed - talk about sh*t for brains. Take a nap or go buy some milk - you're cracking up.

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Because you've got George Soros money, bitch.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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SignyM:
So you REJECT NFAC?

CC: We've been through this before, even in this thread: I hate guns. They make stupid & weak people even more dangerous. Just more proof that Trump's America is almost broken and he can't fix it.

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SIGNYM:
One way to end chaos is with overwhelming force. But it has to be overwhelming: you can't have anywhere near- equivalent forces, otherwise you'll just have a firefight.

CC: Wow - that wreaks of fascist problem solving! You wish Trump would roll the army in - your dream scenario.
And no, that never works unless you want to break society. Hey! That's you!

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SIGNYM:
So there you are, doubling down on Constitution- stomping.


CC: You're just typing anything now - yawn.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Anyone there with a gun that's not law enforcement should be arrested and locked up "forever."

No guns.

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That ain't how the world works, son.

And you probably should have fucking thought about this before you were calling to defund the police and send social workers to people's houses.

You don't get to have it both ways. And you get what you fucking deserve.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Absolutely correct

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Originally posted by Second's Terrorist Split Personality and What's Going to Land Him in Prison One Day:

In front of the white house.



And elsewhere.

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Originally posted by Cap'n Cuccklefuck:

Wow - that wreaks of fascist problem solving!

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