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A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:03 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: AMENDMENT TO CURTAIL FEDERAL CRACKDOWN ON PROTESTERS The amendment would prohibit funds from being used to send federal agents into American cities. Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Ted Lieu of California are proposing an amendment this week that would prohibit funds from being used to send federal agents into American cities as part of Operation Legend or Operation Relentless Pursuit. Those are Justice Department initiatives that have led brutal crackdowns on protesters in cities like Portland, Oregon. While the Trump administration has framed the dispatching of secret police as efforts meant “to help state and local officials fight the surge of violent crime,” critics such as Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden and Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner have called the tactics “fascist.” Senator Wyden, along with several other Senate Democrats, also pushed for similar amendment in the Senate, sending a letter to their colleagues in the Appropriations Committee on July 24. The measure, which was filed as an amendment to the upcoming House Appropriations bill, is co-sponsored by Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib, of Michigan, Deb Haaland of New Mexico, and Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri. The House Rules Committee is meeting today to decide which of the hundreds of amendments filed will be considered this week. More at https://theintercept.com/2020/07/28/ocasio-cortez-lieu-amendment-protests-federal-crackdown/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:33 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Is that going to apply to anti-mask protests? Or is it just for you racist lefties and your racist protests? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Is that going to apply to anti-mask protests? Or is it just for you racist lefties and your racist protests? Do Right, Be Right. :) May 12, 2020 -- BJA and the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS Office) have awarded more than $61 million in grant funding to support the Attorney General’s Operation Relentless Pursuit (ORP) initiative. https://bja.ojp.gov/news/funds-released-support-operation-relentless-pursuit What is Trump in Relentless Pursuit of? Answer: The votes of poor white trash. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh, surely that was a post deserving of your Marcos alter-ego, Second. Your hatred for others just barely contained yet oozing out of every single syllable you type. Why waste your time with any pretenses that you're some sort of upstanding human being anymore? Just let go and give yourself over completely to your base personality. Wouldn't that reply have been much more enjoyable for you under Marcos' mask where you can just wipe shit over the walls with your bare hands and set everything on fire like the fucking animal you really are? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:03 PM
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:14 PM
REAVERFAN
Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: C'mon Marcos... Marcos... Come out and plaaaaaaaaayyyy! Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:14 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 7:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I would consider it a problem if people were being taken to unknown locations and not read their rights or given an opportunity to make a phone call, and detained for longer than 48 hours without charges. But none of that happened. There was no "rough ride". No transfer from police station to police station to keep the lawyers from keeping up. No prolonged questioning, with the answers being "sweated out" under duress. No injuries. It sounds like these Federales actually behave better than local PD. The idea that these are "secret police" is overwrought.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 7:56 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I posted earlier how it is that local and (presumably) peaceful protestors are being (perhaps) unwittingly used as cover by external agents - and what they should do to stop the imported violence that's the pretext for federal involvement. But sadly, they're too disorganized, too thoughtless, and too undisciplined to do that. Seriously, they should just go home. I honestly don't even know what they think they're going to accomplish. That they're going to drive the feds away by force? Or by sheer numbers? Not gonna' happen. Maybe RF can explain what's the plan.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:19 AM
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump made it very clear that Portland is a major part of his reelection strategy: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump The Fake News Media is trying to portray the Portland and Seattle “protesters” as wonderful, sweet and innocent people just out for a little stroll. Actually, they are sick and deranged Anarchists & Agitators who our great men & women of Law Enforcement easily control, but who would destroy our American cities, and worse, if Sleepy Joe Biden, the puppet of the Left, ever won. Markets would crash and cities would burn. Our Country would suffer like never before. We will beat the Virus, soon, and go on to the Golden Age - better than ever before! 9:58 PM · Jul 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1287945543642222599 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Watched part of the video that REAVERBOT posted but couldn't stand the drivel. The "reporter" didn't even know his facts: It wasn't the Feds that made the PPD stop using teat gas, it was the city council. What I WAS watching for was "who was doing what" in the background of all of that blah blah blah, and what I saw was a fairly static situation, with protestors advancing on a police line using green lasers and sometimes fireworks, and Federal officers driving them back with tear gas. There was no running and clubbing, no kettling, and no over-reaction by the Federal officers. They kept their cool for the most part, and even tho people are doing a lot of hand-wringing about how "untrained" they are, they actually seem quite well-trained for the situation, especially under constant provocation. AFA there being "secret" police, what is happening in Portland doesn't seem to fit the definition. The individuals are wearing unit patches. They aren't wearing nametags for fear of being doxxed. There is only one person that I know of who claims to have been picked up (Pettibone), and HIS experience was that he was loaded into a van, taken to a location (which turned out to be a courthouse), read his rights, questioned and let go without any charges being recorded. OH, THE HORROR! He was READ HIS RIGHTS! He was QUESTIONED! How could such a thing happen in America?? /snicker The worst that even Washington Compost can come up with is that he was "terrifed" bc he thought the Federal officers were right-wing troublemakers. Oh dear! Maybe he needs to go find his "safe space". https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/ I would consider it a problem if people were being taken to unknown locations and not read their rights or given an opportunity to make a phone call, and detained for longer than 48 hours without charges. But none of that happened. There was no "rough ride". No transfer from police station to police station to keep the lawyers from keeping up. No prolonged questioning, with the answers being "sweated out" under duress. No injuries. It sounds like these Federales actually behave better than local PD. The idea that these are "secret police" is overwrought. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:12 AM
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:07 PM
Quote: REAVERBOT:I wouldn't expect a Russian troll to express any understanding of American patriots fighting fascism.
Quote: First, let me tell you what it DOESN'T mean: It doesn't mean dictatorial, authoritarian, tyrannical, oppressive, autocratic, genocidal, racist, sexist, imperialist, warmongering, nationalistic, "Nazi", or any of the other more accurate perjorative terms that you can't seem to find. Fascism isn't a political system, it's an ECONOMIC one. It is where the state exists to serve large corporations, such as in Italy under Mussolini. Because corporate interests inherently conflict with the population at large, the government is often authoritarian as it seeks to impose (by force) corporate advantage over everyone. Therefore, fascism may require a strong non-democratic leader for its implementation, but that isn't a central feature. If, for example, near-universal control of the media convinces the populace that corporations are benign and/or necessary, a government can be essentially fascist in a democratic setting.
Quote:Trump is Putin's puppet , and will do his master's bidding
Quote:as he always has, and as you do, you obvious Russian troll.
Quote:Trump loves and admires Putin, and wants to follow Putin's model of fascism in Russia and apply it here.
Quote:Oh, wait. Are you going to try to tell us that Putin is NOT a fascist?
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: C'mon Marcos... Marcos... Come out and plaaaaaaaaayyyy! Do Right, Be Right. :)6ix, you praised Joker 80 times in two threads: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=1085785#1085785 http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=1083827#1083827 You are obviously not taking your medication because this is what you were praising: (Removed because it messes up the formatting in a quote) The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:53 PM
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The worst scene in the movie. The point at which I thought that I was mislead by Rappy and I had gotten myself into a torture porn flick. As I've stated many, many times before, I don't like movies that fall under that category and would refuse to ever watch a Saw or a Kingsman movie for that very reason. The ones that were praise of the movie weren't praise of the Joker's motives. They were praise for Phoenix's amazing performance. The movie was exhausting to sit through. You never once will find a single comment I made in that thread where I ever stated or even implied that I was on board with Arthur's motives and actions.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan:
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The worst scene in the movie. The point at which I thought that I was mislead by Rappy and I had gotten myself into a torture porn flick. As I've stated many, many times before, I don't like movies that fall under that category and would refuse to ever watch a Saw or a Kingsman movie for that very reason. The ones that were praise of the movie weren't praise of the Joker's motives. They were praise for Phoenix's amazing performance. The movie was exhausting to sit through. You never once will find a single comment I made in that thread where I ever stated or even implied that I was on board with Arthur's motives and actions.Joker says, "It’s okay, Gary. You can go." It is NOT okay, assuming you're not in thrall to this movie. If the Joker lets Gary go, he will call 911. Before Joker can change cloths, the police will be there. (It would be trivial to fix the scene by having Joker say, "Take a seat, Gary." Then when Joker leaves, the audience doesn't know whether Gary is alive or dead, thus increasing the tension.) Let’s play the next scene, which is famous because of the music, not the acting, Rock N' Roll (Part 2) Joker Stairs on Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/sPmt3Xcnp9S7Lw9Y9 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:11 PM
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:44 PM
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's a fucking comic book movie, dipshit. If you want realism, go fellate yourself while watching Citizen Kane and getting high on your own bottled farts. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:13 PM
Quote: The residents are quite safe. The only threats to them are from Trump's Gestapo. Yup. They're not there to stop the tiny, insignificant amounts of violence in Portland. They're there to create it. While some federal officers had already been in the streets, we now have additional militarized special ops officers occupying the streets of downtown Portland, bent on inflicting pain and terror on people who believe Black Lives Matter. Federal agents, including those from Trump’s Departments of Homeland Security and Justice, are terrorizing the community, threatening lives, and relentlessly attacking protesters demonstrating against police brutality.
Quote: Go suck Nazi dick in prison with the other bitches.Your Nazi boyfriends are terrorists. They murder people constantly, while the lifesaving patriots of Antifa do not. "Also, to be VERY clear, the first article you linked exonerates Boogaloo as having anything to do with property destruction, while the second repeatedly mentions ONE incident in California - not Portland." comment on REAVERBOT'S misrepresentation of what an article said There are those, Trump and Barr among them, who would like to see our freedoms replaced by unflagging obedience to the needs of corporations and billionaires. There’s something particularly terrifying in the use of Border Patrol agents against American dissidents. The Protesters Are the True Patriots
Quote: When tyranny becomes the law, revolt becomes the patriot's duty.
Quote:Nothing Can Justify the Attack on Portland The question of whether these arrests are appropriate has a clear answer—at least in a nation that purports to live under the rule of law.
Quote:The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractors
Quote: Most pigs who become pigs do so out of a desire to beat and kill people. They live for it. Every statement made by me was indeed correct. I am well-known and widely respected for my truth-telling and always-spot-on documentation. Hitler was a nationalist. [Therefore nationalism is bad] My, what a complete load of Russian troll nonsense.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: MORE LATER IF I GET AROUND TO IT
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's a fucking comic book movie, dipshit. If you want realism, go fellate yourself while watching Citizen Kane and getting high on your own bottled farts. Do Right, Be Right. :)Movie reviewers clearly see it is NOT a comic book movie. There are no super powers, super heroes, physic breaking devices, magic, etc. The Joker movie is a straight forward, realistic "film about rage against the system, society and its casual cruelties and the powerlessness of individuals. It is the rage of the underdog. Surprisingly enough, it is also a film about class rage." www.moriareviews.com/fantasy/joker-2019.htm That it sold a $1 billion in tickets to powerless individuals would be expected. Finally, a movie about the underdog biting its cruel master. But I'm on the side of the masters. I want Bruce Wayne to kick that dog, the Joker.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You're so full of shit it's leaking out of your ears. We know that you are Marcos. We know that you have suggested on multiple occasions that people should murder their bosses and steal all of their stuff. We know that you have advocated for the assassination of the President on several occasions, even going so far as to suggest that you know you could get away with it if you did it. YOU are Arthur Fleck, Second/Marcos.
Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:53 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Well... you call it poverty. I call it freedom.
Thursday, July 30, 2020 8:35 AM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:15 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Well... you call it poverty. I call it freedom.That is a great first line for your book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Pond#History If you can connect Transcendentalism and Trump, you will be famous as Henry David Thoreau. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:44 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:54 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:57 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, more crap from REAVERBOT. And I haven't even gotten around to compiling the last load! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:05 PM
Quote:REAVERBOT: All you did was quote me saying things that are accurate. Things like AOC being an award-winning academic. Sorry your google skills are so pathetic.
Quote:Every statement made by me was indeed correct. I am well-known and widely respected for my truth-telling and always-spot-on documentation.
Thursday, July 30, 2020 3:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:REAVERBOT: All you did was quote me saying things that are accurate. Things like AOC being an award-winning academic. Sorry your google skills are so pathetic. Well, she won second place at a 2007 high school science fair for her project on roundworm longevity. Does that make her an academic? She graduated cum laude (with honors) from Boston College with a degree in International Relations. Big whooop. I graduated magna cum laude with a double degree in Physics and Chemistry, but that doesn't make me an "academic!" An "academic" is a person who makes their living or their avocation in the field of higher learning. Other than that, I can't find anything about her being an "academic", award-winning or otherwise. Epic fail on your part, REAVERBOT. Now, remind me again how Quote:Every statement made by me was indeed correct. I am well-known and widely respected for my truth-telling and always-spot-on documentation. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Well... you call it poverty. I call it freedom.That is a great first line for your book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Pond#History If you can connect Transcendentalism and Trump, you will be famous as Henry David Thoreau. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly I care even less for fame than I do for riches. I got three hots and a cot and less stress in a year than most have in a single day. What stress remains is just problems I'm working on that I created myself when I was doing stupid and destructive things with all that free time. Once I get those ironed out who knows what I'll do with my time now that I've shed drugs and alcohol and TV from my life. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:15 PM
Quote:REAVERBOT: All you did was quote me saying things that are accurate. Things like AOC being an award-winning academic. Sorry your google skills are so pathetic. SIGNY: Well, she won second place at a 2007 high school science fair for her project on roundworm longevity. Does that make her an academic? She graduated cum laude (with honors) from Boston College with a degree in International Relations. Big whooop. I graduated magna cum laude with a double degree in Physics and Chemistry, but that doesn't make me an "academic!" An "academic" is a person who makes their living or their avocation in the field of higher learning. Other than that, I can't find anything about her being an "academic", award-winning or otherwise. Epic fail on your part, REAVERBOT. Now, remind me again how Quote:Every statement made by me was indeed correct. I am well-known and widely respected for my truth-telling and always-spot-on documentation. Bullshit. You're too stupid to have ever gone to college. Russians rarely do. You keep doubling down on your utter failure. Not an educated thing to do, comrade. Also, since English is clearly your second language, don't be so stupid as to try to correct mine
Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Well... you call it poverty. I call it freedom.That is a great first line for your book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Pond#History If you can connect Transcendentalism and Trump, you will be famous as Henry David Thoreau. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly I care even less for fame than I do for riches. I got three hots and a cot and less stress in a year than most have in a single day. What stress remains is just problems I'm working on that I created myself when I was doing stupid and destructive things with all that free time. Once I get those ironed out who knows what I'll do with my time now that I've shed drugs and alcohol and TV from my life. Do Right, Be Right. :)You have transcended, but can you maintain your chill if Trump should lose? I think he will for using Portland as part of his Law & Order reelection campaign, but I could be wrong since he has a 35% chance of winning, today. https://odds.watch/trump-2020 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:51 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Holy, shit, the dude's completely illiterate! Trump Re-Tweets Judge Napolitano Op-Ed Calling Deployment of Feds in Portland ‘Unconstitutional’ and ‘Totalitarianism’ https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-re-tweets-judge-napolitano-op-ed-calling-deployment-of-feds-in-portland-unconstitutional-and-totalitarianism/ President Donald Trump on Wednesday morning posted a series of tweets and re-tweets featuring an array of articles and videos maligning his political opponents and praising his own leadership. But stashed between four re-tweets which originated from Fox Business Network’s Stuart Varney and one from a conservative blogger defending Trump’s pandemic response, Trump also retweeted a Washington Times op-ed which virulently denounced the president’s deployment of federal agents in Portland as “unconstitutional.” That's 6ix-level stupidity. Wow. Just wow. Of course, "unconstitutional" and "totalitarian" are good things, in his eyes.
Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:25 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: OH, so what was that academic award that AOC won, REAVERBOT? Find us that link, and then remind us again of your superior search skills and how you're always accurate and truthful. BWAHAHAHA! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: OH, so what was that academic award that AOC won, REAVERBOT? Find us that link, and then remind us again of your superior search skills and how you're always accurate and truthful. BWAHAHAHA! You already said what it was, dummy. And yes, my skills are far superior to yours. The only thing you can do better than me is speak Russian.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: OH, so what was that academic award that AOC won, REAVERBOT? Find us that link, and then remind us again of your superior search skills and how you're always accurate and truthful. BWAHAHAHA!
Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: This is good. T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. Lawmaker to Barr: I'm starting to lose my temper
Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:09 PM
Friday, July 31, 2020 1:51 PM
Friday, July 31, 2020 1:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Oh jeez REAVERBOT, is thinking not your native skill? Do I have to school you in English too? "Academic" (adjective) means of, or related to, school. "Academic award" is a reward for scholarship. But AN academic (noun) is a person."A teacher or scholar in a college or institute of higher education" You called AOC "An ... academic". A teacher or scholar in a college or institute of higher learning. She was never "an academic", award winning or not. If you had posted that she won an academic award, that would have made more sense. Even so, her academic award was for a high school science project... not the most amazing lifetime accomplishment ever. BTW: When you resort to name calling because you've obviously run out of anything relevant to post is when you look desperate. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
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