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A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution
Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:01 AM
REAVERFAN
Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:25 AM
Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:37 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:50 AM
WHOZIT
Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: They don't want the feds there because it'll prove they can't keep their own residents safe. It's hard to feel sorry for the people who voted for the government they now have, if you voted for these people, you've gotten what you deserve.
Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:02 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:03 PM
Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol Portland has been a nightmarish scene for years now. Democrats love to tell you that you have a freedom to speech but you have to live with the consequences. Well... Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:09 PM
Saturday, July 18, 2020 2:53 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:29 PM
Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I AM worried about the Constitution because the people rioting on Portland obviously don't care for democracy, they intend mob rule. And the biased (unfree, corporate-controlled) media is helping them.
Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I AM worried about the Constitution because the people rioting on Portland obviously don't care for democracy, they intend mob rule. And the biased (unfree, corporate-controlled) media is helping them.Signym, that is not what Oregon government says, but it is what Trump would say. Oregon Governor Kate Brown says that federal officers and homeland security need to leave Portland and that their presence is only fanning the flames to violent protests. “Let me be very, very clear, having federal troops on the streets of Portland does not solve the problem and in fact, it escalates the problem,” Brown said. “I was very clear with Secretary Wolf about that fact. This is pure politics; this isn’t about problem-solving.” In recent weeks Brown has been overly outspoken about the protests that at times turn violent. She addressed that saying violence solves nothing. “We should be focusing our time and energy on tackling the racism in our justice system, in our education system, in our healthcare system and the violence frankly distracts from that critically important work,” Brown said. www.kptv.com/news/governor-brown-talks-covid-19-protests-and-schools-in-one-on-one-interview/article_69e6c558-c89b-11ea-9f5e-b3924be016e4.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Yup. They're not there to stop the tiny, insignificant amounts of violence in Portland. They're there to create it. If Obama had done something like this, our resident trumpnazis would be howling at the moon about fascism and oppression.
Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: REAVER, I noticed that CC disappeared and you re-appeared. Whose sock puppet is whose? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:12 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 6:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Hey Reaverfuck. The 1st amendment doesn't apply to burning shit to the ground, looting, assaulting and killing other people. Google it, fucktard. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:05 AM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The Oregon people have told the Oregon governor to leave. Let's see if that ends up being forcibly or not. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:42 AM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:23 AM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:58 AM
THG
Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:02 AM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:42 AM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:06 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:09 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:34 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:35 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:36 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Go peddle your propaganda to people who care. Maybe you'll fit better on Twitter. Ain't nobody buying your Anti-American bullshit here, buddy. While you're at it, just GTFO out my country. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Go peddle your propaganda to people who care. Maybe you'll fit better on Twitter. Ain't nobody buying your Anti-American bullshit here, buddy. While you're at it, just GTFO out my country. Do Right, Be Right. :)My words to you, exactly, Nazi lover. Go suck Nazi dick in prison with the other bitches. Post your blatant, debunked lies on 4 chan with the other incels. We patriots have work to do. No one will miss you at all, you freedom-hating loser.
Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:47 PM
Sunday, July 19, 2020 1:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: And why on earth would you think that I'm ever going to be put in prison? I'm not the guy out there breaking the law every day. Prison is for criminals. Once justice starts being served again, all of you little white supremacist LARPers can suck each other off all day. Better warn them against kicking your ass though, since that would make a real mess when a hundred cocks fall out of it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 19, 2020 3:43 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:20 PM
Monday, July 20, 2020 11:29 AM
Monday, July 20, 2020 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: BTW I posted this because there are a LOT of outside interests deeply involving themselves in Portland and pretending to speak for Portlandians. So it seems reasonable to me to wonder what do Portlandians say for themselves.
Monday, July 20, 2020 11:42 AM
Monday, July 20, 2020 11:57 AM
Monday, July 20, 2020 12:00 PM
Monday, July 20, 2020 12:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: They've been quite clear about it. They want Trump's brownshirts OUT.
Monday, July 20, 2020 12:52 PM
Monday, July 20, 2020 1:10 PM
Monday, July 20, 2020 1:18 PM
Monday, July 20, 2020 1:39 PM
Quote:05/29/2020 broke a front window at the Hatfield Courthouse. graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. Overall, the cost of damages on federal property done by the violent mob this first night was estimated at $5,000. 05/30/2020 graffitied the BPA Building. graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. graffitied the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Building. graffitied the Terry Schrunk Plaza. graffitied the 911 Federal Building. graffitied the Pioneer Courthouse. graffitied the Gus J. Solomon Courthouse. 06/01/2020 graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. graffitied Terry Schrunk Plaza. graffitied The Pioneer Courthouse. graffitied The Gus J Solomon Courthouse. 06/02/2020 graffitied the U.S. Custom House. 06/06/2020 destroyed fencing surrounding federal property. 06/07/2020 damaged and breached the fence around the Hatfield Courthouse. Portland Police were forced to deploy crowd control spray to disperse a crowd that was throwing animal seed at officers. 06/08/2020 broke a window at the Hatfield Courthouse while pelting the building with objects. cut a hole in the fence surrounding Hatfield Courthouse. 06/10/2020 removed the entire fence around Hatfield Courthouse and graffitied its front columns. attempted to remove wooden barriers from a window on the Hatfield Courthouse. 06/11/2020 dismantled a section of the fence protecting the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Federal Building. 06/13/2020 destroyed the card reader at the Hatfield Courthouse by ripping it off its mount. destroyed the fence at the Hatfield Courthouse. threw metal pipes at the Hatfield Courthouse, causing Portland Police to issue a disbursal warning for unlawful assembly. 06/17/2020 graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. 06/20/2020 Among a group of over 400 protesters marching in front of the Pioneer Courthouse, violent anarchists attempted to cause eye damage to officers with commercial grade lasers. graffitied the Gus J. Solomon Courthouse. 06/25/2020 vandalized an FPS camera at the Hatfield Courthouse breached the fence of the Justice Center, adjacent to the courthouse. 06/30/2020 ripped down plywood covering the windows at the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Building, before breaking the windows. 7/01/2020 graffitied new plywood covering the windows at the Hatfield Courthouse and ripped down plywood on the other side of the building. A group of over 200 violent anarchists blocked access to the building and proceeded to launch aerial fireworks at federal property. 07/02/2020 broke a front window to the Hatfield Courthouse and attempted to enter the building. refused orders to vacate the Hatfield Courthouse area, and instead launched fireworks and threw objects at officers, while attempting to cause eye damage with lasers. One explosive firework was shot into the courthouse. FPS law enforcement officers were forced to utilized crowd control measures for safety. 07/03/2020 After ongoing riots around the Hatfield Courthouse, crowds were dispersed only to make a return later into the night. broke the front window of the Hatfield U.S. Courthouse and shot fireworks into the building. firebombed the building. Federal law enforcement extinguished the fire. 07/04/2020 Around 1,000 violent anarchists spray painted, threw rocks, and shot fireworks (including mortar style fireworks) at the Hatfield Courthouse. They also destroyed a security camera at the facility. A CBP team supporting FPS at the courthouse arrested suspects from the graffiti and camera vandalism incidents. The mob continued to throw rocks and paint-filled balloons, while attempting to breach the doors. Teams were forced to utilize crowd control measures for safety. Multiple individuals were seen carrying rifles, including the driver of a vehicle who attempted to strike a Portland Police Bureau officer with his car in front of the Hatfield Courthouse. 07/05/2020 A hostile crowd of about 250 returned to the vicinity of Hatfield Courthouse to vandalize and attack numerous facilities and police, while failing to comply with dispersal order. surrounded and blocked law enforcement from the area as extremists proceeded to attack police with thrown projectiles and large mortar style fireworks. Two Portland Police Bureau officers were injured by the crowd (possible concussion). Portland Police Bureau took five into custody for directing lasers against aircraft. [the intent is to blind the pilots] set fires in front of Hatfield Courthouse and Chapman park. At the entrance of Hatfield Courthouse, fired large fireworks and threw other dangerous objects toward the entrance and the personnel protecting it. The mob was pushed completely out of the area of Hatfield Courthouse; FPS made two arrests during push. Portland Police made multiple arrests and found a loaded weapon on one subject. Two more were arrested, and one was found to be carrying what appears to be a pipe bomb. assaulted construction crews by targeting them with fireworks while they repaired Hatfield Building. A joint team had to be deployed to create buffer between violent anarchists and construction crew to protect construction workers. 07/06/2020 attempted to cause vision damage to personnel with lasers . Five arrests were made for assaulting law enforcement. 07/07/2020 held a “Night of Rage,” in which a 400-500-person protest devolved into riots, assaulting law enforcement officers and federal property. Approximately 200 began pursuing law enforcement officers to disrupt enforcement actions, assaulting them with rocks and bottles. Around 150 in front of the Justice Center began attacking personnel with lasers and peppered the area with fireworks. Three were arrested for attacking law enforcement. 07/08/2020 Approximately 200 attacked DHS law enforcement officers while apprehending a subject who was wanted for property damage. One arrest was made after three law enforcement officers were injured. Law enforcement officers’ personal information was publicly exposed, including FPS, ICE, and CBP personnel. continued to attack officers with lasers. 07/09/2020 attacked DHS law enforcement officers while apprehending a subject who was wanted for property damage. graffitied the Hatfield courthouse. unidentified subject fired several shots from a gun into the air from the rear seat of a passing white SUV. 07/10/2020 Crowds of approximately 300 vandalized federal property and cameras with spray paint, blocked roadways, and assaulted law enforcement officers. Three were arrested for Assault on a Federal Officer. attempted to ambush Portland Police Department PD during their shift change, but a DHS team was deployed and able to prevent any attacks. 07/11/2020 DHS law enforcement officers supported local police to help * who overdosed. Four were arrested, including one who attempted to assault an officer with a hammer. sieged the barricade of the courthouse and tried to damage it with a large hammer. A law enforcement officer was assaulted with blows from a hammer. * fought officers while they were arresting those responsible. 07/12/2020 A mob of 300 refused to comply with directions not to trespass on federal property. Another mob of 200 individuals armed with sledgehammers, tasers and/or stun guns, gathered in Chapman Park across from the Hatfield Courthouse. launched fireworks, threw fecal matter and large objects, and pointed lasers at federal law enforcement officers. deployed a plywood blockade while graffitiing the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Federal Building, before firing wrist rockets [slingshots]at the facility. When an arrest team was deployed to apprehend a rioter who encroached on a police barrier and refused to leave, they were assaulted. A rioter trespassed on the steps of the Hatfield Courthouse and was confronted by federal law enforcement Officers, then swallowed a large amount of narcotics. Law enforcement called medical services after the individual started to convulse. Despite more orders to stay off of federal property and to cease unlawful activity, FPS was forced to push back violent anarchists. The Portland Police Bureau declared the mob an unlawful assembly. 07/13/2020 released personal information of federal law enforcement officers to the public, publishing names of those in Portland. continued to assault law enforcement officers with lasers, slingshots and fireworks. Others were armed with sledge hammers, tasers, and stun guns, and dragged flaming debris into the scene. 07/14/2020 set a container of liquid on fire at the Terry Schrunk Plaza. jumped a fence and attempted to breach the Edith Green Federal Building assaulted federal law enforcement officers with cans and other hard objects while they attempted to unblock the entrance of the Edith Green Federal Building. 07/15/2020 doxed members of federal law enforcement attempted to damage the Hatfield Courthouse by throwing objects at it and spray painting it. Numerous fireworks were also lit. trespassed on federal property and destroyed a card reader at the Justice Center.
Monday, July 20, 2020 1:48 PM
Monday, July 20, 2020 1:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to DHS, this is a list of what "peceful protesters" have done Quote:05/29/2020 broke a front window at the Hatfield Courthouse. graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. Overall, the cost of damages on federal property done by the violent mob this first night was estimated at $5,000. 05/30/2020 graffitied the BPA Building. graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. graffitied the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Building. graffitied the Terry Schrunk Plaza. graffitied the 911 Federal Building. graffitied the Pioneer Courthouse. graffitied the Gus J. Solomon Courthouse. 06/01/2020 graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. graffitied Terry Schrunk Plaza. graffitied The Pioneer Courthouse. graffitied The Gus J Solomon Courthouse. 06/02/2020 graffitied the U.S. Custom House. 06/06/2020 destroyed fencing surrounding federal property. 06/07/2020 damaged and breached the fence around the Hatfield Courthouse. Portland Police were forced to deploy crowd control spray to disperse a crowd that was throwing animal seed at officers. 06/08/2020 broke a window at the Hatfield Courthouse while pelting the building with objects. cut a hole in the fence surrounding Hatfield Courthouse. 06/10/2020 removed the entire fence around Hatfield Courthouse and graffitied its front columns. attempted to remove wooden barriers from a window on the Hatfield Courthouse. 06/11/2020 dismantled a section of the fence protecting the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Federal Building. 06/13/2020 destroyed the card reader at the Hatfield Courthouse by ripping it off its mount. destroyed the fence at the Hatfield Courthouse. threw metal pipes at the Hatfield Courthouse, causing Portland Police to issue a disbursal warning for unlawful assembly. 06/17/2020 graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. 06/20/2020 Among a group of over 400 protesters marching in front of the Pioneer Courthouse, violent anarchists attempted to cause eye damage to officers with commercial grade lasers. graffitied the Gus J. Solomon Courthouse. 06/25/2020 vandalized an FPS camera at the Hatfield Courthouse breached the fence of the Justice Center, adjacent to the courthouse. 06/30/2020 ripped down plywood covering the windows at the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Building, before breaking the windows. 7/01/2020 graffitied new plywood covering the windows at the Hatfield Courthouse and ripped down plywood on the other side of the building. A group of over 200 violent anarchists blocked access to the building and proceeded to launch aerial fireworks at federal property. 07/02/2020 broke a front window to the Hatfield Courthouse and attempted to enter the building. refused orders to vacate the Hatfield Courthouse area, and instead launched fireworks and threw objects at officers, while attempting to cause eye damage with lasers. One explosive firework was shot into the courthouse. FPS law enforcement officers were forced to utilized crowd control measures for safety. 07/03/2020 After ongoing riots around the Hatfield Courthouse, crowds were dispersed only to make a return later into the night. broke the front window of the Hatfield U.S. Courthouse and shot fireworks into the building. firebombed the building. Federal law enforcement extinguished the fire. 07/04/2020 Around 1,000 violent anarchists spray painted, threw rocks, and shot fireworks (including mortar style fireworks) at the Hatfield Courthouse. They also destroyed a security camera at the facility. A CBP team supporting FPS at the courthouse arrested suspects from the graffiti and camera vandalism incidents. The mob continued to throw rocks and paint-filled balloons, while attempting to breach the doors. Teams were forced to utilize crowd control measures for safety. Multiple individuals were seen carrying rifles, including the driver of a vehicle who attempted to strike a Portland Police Bureau officer with his car in front of the Hatfield Courthouse. 07/05/2020 A hostile crowd of about 250 returned to the vicinity of Hatfield Courthouse to vandalize and attack numerous facilities and police, while failing to comply with dispersal order. surrounded and blocked law enforcement from the area as extremists proceeded to attack police with thrown projectiles and large mortar style fireworks. Two Portland Police Bureau officers were injured by the crowd (possible concussion). Portland Police Bureau took five into custody for directing lasers against aircraft. [the intent is to blind the pilots] set fires in front of Hatfield Courthouse and Chapman park. At the entrance of Hatfield Courthouse, fired large fireworks and threw other dangerous objects toward the entrance and the personnel protecting it. The mob was pushed completely out of the area of Hatfield Courthouse; FPS made two arrests during push. Portland Police made multiple arrests and found a loaded weapon on one subject. Two more were arrested, and one was found to be carrying what appears to be a pipe bomb. assaulted construction crews by targeting them with fireworks while they repaired Hatfield Building. A joint team had to be deployed to create buffer between violent anarchists and construction crew to protect construction workers. 07/06/2020 attempted to cause vision damage to personnel with lasers . Five arrests were made for assaulting law enforcement. 07/07/2020 held a “Night of Rage,” in which a 400-500-person protest devolved into riots, assaulting law enforcement officers and federal property. Approximately 200 began pursuing law enforcement officers to disrupt enforcement actions, assaulting them with rocks and bottles. Around 150 in front of the Justice Center began attacking personnel with lasers and peppered the area with fireworks. Three were arrested for attacking law enforcement. 07/08/2020 Approximately 200 attacked DHS law enforcement officers while apprehending a subject who was wanted for property damage. One arrest was made after three law enforcement officers were injured. Law enforcement officers’ personal information was publicly exposed, including FPS, ICE, and CBP personnel. continued to attack officers with lasers. 07/09/2020 attacked DHS law enforcement officers while apprehending a subject who was wanted for property damage. graffitied the Hatfield courthouse. unidentified subject fired several shots from a gun into the air from the rear seat of a passing white SUV. 07/10/2020 Crowds of approximately 300 vandalized federal property and cameras with spray paint, blocked roadways, and assaulted law enforcement officers. Three were arrested for Assault on a Federal Officer. attempted to ambush Portland Police Department PD during their shift change, but a DHS team was deployed and able to prevent any attacks. 07/11/2020 DHS law enforcement officers supported local police to help * who overdosed. Four were arrested, including one who attempted to assault an officer with a hammer. sieged the barricade of the courthouse and tried to damage it with a large hammer. A law enforcement officer was assaulted with blows from a hammer. * fought officers while they were arresting those responsible. 07/12/2020 A mob of 300 refused to comply with directions not to trespass on federal property. Another mob of 200 individuals armed with sledgehammers, tasers and/or stun guns, gathered in Chapman Park across from the Hatfield Courthouse. launched fireworks, threw fecal matter and large objects, and pointed lasers at federal law enforcement officers. deployed a plywood blockade while graffitiing the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Federal Building, before firing wrist rockets [slingshots]at the facility. When an arrest team was deployed to apprehend a rioter who encroached on a police barrier and refused to leave, they were assaulted. A rioter trespassed on the steps of the Hatfield Courthouse and was confronted by federal law enforcement Officers, then swallowed a large amount of narcotics. Law enforcement called medical services after the individual started to convulse. Despite more orders to stay off of federal property and to cease unlawful activity, FPS was forced to push back violent anarchists. The Portland Police Bureau declared the mob an unlawful assembly. 07/13/2020 released personal information of federal law enforcement officers to the public, publishing names of those in Portland. continued to assault law enforcement officers with lasers, slingshots and fireworks. Others were armed with sledge hammers, tasers, and stun guns, and dragged flaming debris into the scene. 07/14/2020 set a container of liquid on fire at the Terry Schrunk Plaza. jumped a fence and attempted to breach the Edith Green Federal Building assaulted federal law enforcement officers with cans and other hard objects while they attempted to unblock the entrance of the Edith Green Federal Building. 07/15/2020 doxed members of federal law enforcement attempted to damage the Hatfield Courthouse by throwing objects at it and spray painting it. Numerous fireworks were also lit. trespassed on federal property and destroyed a card reader at the Justice Center. That's where the list ends. As you can see, the actions escalated from vandalism against court buildings and other public property to attacks on law enforcement, construction crews, and airplane pilots. DHS pejoratively calls the mobs "violent anarchists", which I have removed from this list. When considering "who did what", I look at who was in a defensive position and who was attempting to advance. It seems to me that mostly law enforcement was in a defensive position, protecting courthouses and other public property. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
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