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Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump's conduct with Ukraine was not impeachable. Joe Biden's, OTOH, is indictable.

Face it, THUG, the Mueller "investigation" is over and it was all a lie. There were no trials. The "quid pro quo" that people like you say happened ... never did. Kavanaugh was not a rapist and the Covington students did not "assault" anyone.

The deep state and the M$M are lying pieces of go se, and that includes Bolt-on. He's lied in the past and he's lying now. But just keep on believing the lies if it makes you feel better.

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#WEARAMASK

Signym, you are incorrect.

Romney Delivers Remarks on Impeachment Vote
Wednesday, February 5, 2020

www.romney.senate.gov/romney-delivers-remarks-impeachment-vote

The Constitution is at the foundation of our Republic’s success, and we each strive not to lose sight of our promise to defend it. The Constitution established the vehicle of impeachment that has occupied both houses of Congress for these many days. We have labored to faithfully execute our responsibilities to it. We have arrived at different judgments, but I hope we respect each other’s good faith.

The allegations made in the articles of impeachment are very serious. As a Senator-juror, I swore an oath, before God, to exercise “impartial justice.” I am a profoundly religious person. I take an oath before God as enormously consequential. I knew from the outset that being tasked with judging the President, the leader of my own party, would be the most difficult decision I have ever faced. I was not wrong.

The House Managers presented evidence supporting their case; the White House counsel disputed that case. In addition, the President’s team presented three defenses: first, that there can be no impeachment without a statutory crime; second, that the Bidens’ conduct justified the President’s actions; and third that the judgement of the President’s actions should be left to the voters. Let me first address each of those defenses.

The historic meaning of the words “high crimes and misdemeanors,” the writings of the Founders and my own reasoned judgement convince me that a president can indeed commit acts against the public trust that are so egregious that while they are not statutory crimes, they would demand removal from office. To maintain that the lack of a codified and comprehensive list of all the outrageous acts that a president might conceivably commit renders Congress powerless to remove a president defies reason.

The President’s counsel noted that Vice President Biden appeared to have a conflict of interest when he undertook an effort to remove the Ukrainian Prosecutor General. If he knew of the exorbitant compensation his son was receiving from a company actually under investigation, the Vice President should have recused himself. While ignoring a conflict of interest is not a crime, it is surely very wrong.

With regards to Hunter Biden, taking excessive advantage of his father’s name is unsavory but also not a crime. Given that in neither the case of the father nor the son was any evidence presented by the President’s counsel that a crime had been committed, the President’s insistence that they be investigated by the Ukrainians is hard to explain other than as a political pursuit. There is no question in my mind that were their names not Biden, the President would never have done what he did.

The defense argues that the Senate should leave the impeachment decision to the voters. While that logic is appealing to our democratic instincts, it is inconsistent with the Constitution’s requirement that the Senate, not the voters, try the president. Hamilton explained that the Founders’ decision to invest senators with this obligation rather than leave it to voters was intended to minimize—to the extent possible—the partisan sentiments of the public.

This verdict is ours to render. The people will judge us for how well and faithfully we fulfilled our duty. The grave question the Constitution tasks senators to answer is whether the President committed an act so extreme and egregious that it rises to the level of a “high crime and misdemeanor.”

Yes, he did.

The President asked a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

The President withheld vital military funds from that government to press it to do so.

The President delayed funds for an American ally at war with Russian invaders.

The President’s purpose was personal and political.

Accordingly, the President is guilty of an appalling abuse of the public trust.

What he did was not “perfect”— No, it was a flagrant assault on our electoral rights, our national security interests, and our fundamental values. Corrupting an election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and destructive violation of one’s oath of office that I can imagine.

In the last several weeks, I have received numerous calls and texts. Many demand that, in their words, “I stand with the team.” I can assure you that that thought has been very much on my mind. I support a great deal of what the President has done. I have voted with him 80% of the time. But my promise before God to apply impartial justice required that I put my personal feelings and biases aside. Were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented, and disregard what I believe my oath and the Constitution demands of me for the sake of a partisan end, it would, I fear, expose my character to history’s rebuke and the censure of my own conscience.

I am aware that there are people in my party and in my state who will strenuously disapprove of my decision, and in some quarters, I will be vehemently denounced. I am sure to hear abuse from the President and his supporters. Does anyone seriously believe I would consent to these consequences other than from an inescapable conviction that my oath before God demanded it of me?

I sought to hear testimony from John Bolton not only because I believed he could add context to the charges, but also because I hoped that what he said might raise reasonable doubt and thus remove from me the awful obligation to vote for impeachment.

Like each member of this deliberative body, I love our country. I believe that our Constitution was inspired by Providence. I am convinced that freedom itself is dependent on the strength and vitality of our national character. As it is with each senator, my vote is an act of conviction. We have come to different conclusions, fellow senators, but I trust we have all followed the dictates of our conscience.

I acknowledge that my verdict will not remove the President from office. The results of this Senate Court will in fact be appealed to a higher court: the judgement of the American people. Voters will make the final decision, just as the President’s lawyers have implored. My vote will likely be in the minority in the Senate. But irrespective of these things, with my vote, I will tell my children and their children that I did my duty to the best of my ability, believing that my country expected it of me. I will only be one name among many, no more or less, to future generations of Americans who look at the record of this trial. They will note merely that I was among the senators who determined that what the President did was wrong, grievously wrong.

We’re all footnotes at best in the annals of history. But in the most powerful nation on earth, the nation conceived in liberty and justice, that is distinction enough for any citizen.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Mitt Romney is a warmongering NeoCon piece of shit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second blah blah blah.... Trump ... blah blah blah
FIFY.

But keep believing the lies if it makes you feel better!

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Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second blah blah blah.... Trump ... blah blah blah
FIFY.

But keep believing the lies if it makes you feel better!

The grave question the Constitution tasks senators to answer is whether the President committed an act so extreme and egregious that it rises to the level of a “high crime and misdemeanor.”

Yes, he did.

The President asked a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

The President withheld vital military funds from that government to press it to do so.

The President delayed funds for an American ally at war with Russian invaders.

The President’s purpose was personal and political.

Accordingly, the President is guilty of an appalling abuse of the public trust.

It was a flagrant assault on our electoral rights, our national security interests, and our fundamental values. Corrupting an election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and destructive violation of one’s oath of office that I can imagine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


TDS Ignore Button, Activated.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:25 PM

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Trump’s West Point speech contradicts one of the biggest themes of his presidency

www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-2020-u
nited-states-military-academy-west-point-graduation-ceremony
/

Trump ironically praised the military for being without politics as top Pentagon officials push back against his attempts to use the military for political purposes. Even the speech will become part of a political advertising program, against the request of the Pentagon to not politicize the commencement.

President Donald Trump gave a remarkably understated commencement speech at the West Point military academy on Saturday morning as he spoke to a graduating class of uniformed cadets who wore face masks and sat in chairs spaced six feet apart.

But one part of his speech did stand out: his praise of the military as a source of apolitical stability over the course of American history.

“What has historically made America unique is the durability of its institutions against the passions and prejudices of the moment,” Trump said. “When times are turbulent, when the road is rough, what matters most is that which is permanent, timeless, enduring, and eternal.”

It was an extraordinary and — ironic — tribute to the independence of the military from politics, given that Trump has recently clashed with several current and former military officials over how he has used, and has threatened to use, the armed forces in quelling protests that arose in response to the police killing of George Floyd in May.

In fact, it would appear that top military brass pushing back against Trump’s own passions and prejudices have been a source of frustration for him of late, not something that his actions or speeches suggest he admires.

700 graduates of West Point sent an open letter to the class of 2020, urging them to value their oath to the Constitution above any demand of loyalty from a political official. Trump referred to none of this in his speech. https://bit.ly/30GIcRw
"We pledge service to no monarch; no government; no political party; no tyrant. Your oath is to a set of principles and an ideal expressed in the Constitution and its amendments. Our Constitution establishes freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of religion, of equal protection under the law regardless of race, color, or creed — we cannot take for granted these freedoms that are but dreams in too many nations around the world. By accepting your commission, you incur a moral purpose and obligation to provide for the common defense. In doing so you enable the nation to fulfill the full range of its aspirations. Today, our Constitutional aspirations remain unfulfilled."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 14, 2020 8:31 AM

THG


There's so much shit Trump has done that's wrong and illegal it's mind blowing. You and I both know SECOND what sig should be saying is, so far we've had enough corruptible people to block Trumps impeachment and indictments.

We also know SECOND that when Trump loses this election the trials begin. And the Mueller report will be front and center. His taxes will be front and center and so on.
T


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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump's conduct with Ukraine was not impeachable. Joe Biden's, OTOH, is indictable.

Face it, THUG, the Mueller "investigation" is over and it was all a lie. There were no trials. The "quid pro quo" that people like you say happened ... never did. Kavanaugh was not a rapist and the Covington students did not "assault" anyone.

The deep state and the M$M are lying pieces of go se, and that includes Bolt-on. He's lied in the past and he's lying now. But just keep on believing the lies if it makes you feel better.

-----------
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Signym, you are incorrect.

Romney Delivers Remarks on Impeachment Vote
Wednesday, February 5, 2020

www.romney.senate.gov/romney-delivers-remarks-impeachment-vote

The Constitution is at the foundation of our Republic’s success, and we each strive not to lose sight of our promise to defend it. The Constitution established the vehicle of impeachment that has occupied both houses of Congress for these many days. We have labored to faithfully execute our responsibilities to it. We have arrived at different judgments, but I hope we respect each other’s good faith.

The allegations made in the articles of impeachment are very serious. As a Senator-juror, I swore an oath, before God, to exercise “impartial justice.” I am a profoundly religious person. I take an oath before God as enormously consequential. I knew from the outset that being tasked with judging the President, the leader of my own party, would be the most difficult decision I have ever faced. I was not wrong.

The House Managers presented evidence supporting their case; the White House counsel disputed that case. In addition, the President’s team presented three defenses: first, that there can be no impeachment without a statutory crime; second, that the Bidens’ conduct justified the President’s actions; and third that the judgement of the President’s actions should be left to the voters. Let me first address each of those defenses.

The historic meaning of the words “high crimes and misdemeanors,” the writings of the Founders and my own reasoned judgement convince me that a president can indeed commit acts against the public trust that are so egregious that while they are not statutory crimes, they would demand removal from office. To maintain that the lack of a codified and comprehensive list of all the outrageous acts that a president might conceivably commit renders Congress powerless to remove a president defies reason.

The President’s counsel noted that Vice President Biden appeared to have a conflict of interest when he undertook an effort to remove the Ukrainian Prosecutor General. If he knew of the exorbitant compensation his son was receiving from a company actually under investigation, the Vice President should have recused himself. While ignoring a conflict of interest is not a crime, it is surely very wrong.

With regards to Hunter Biden, taking excessive advantage of his father’s name is unsavory but also not a crime. Given that in neither the case of the father nor the son was any evidence presented by the President’s counsel that a crime had been committed, the President’s insistence that they be investigated by the Ukrainians is hard to explain other than as a political pursuit. There is no question in my mind that were their names not Biden, the President would never have done what he did.

The defense argues that the Senate should leave the impeachment decision to the voters. While that logic is appealing to our democratic instincts, it is inconsistent with the Constitution’s requirement that the Senate, not the voters, try the president. Hamilton explained that the Founders’ decision to invest senators with this obligation rather than leave it to voters was intended to minimize—to the extent possible—the partisan sentiments of the public.

This verdict is ours to render. The people will judge us for how well and faithfully we fulfilled our duty. The grave question the Constitution tasks senators to answer is whether the President committed an act so extreme and egregious that it rises to the level of a “high crime and misdemeanor.”

Yes, he did.

The President asked a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

The President withheld vital military funds from that government to press it to do so.

The President delayed funds for an American ally at war with Russian invaders.

The President’s purpose was personal and political.

Accordingly, the President is guilty of an appalling abuse of the public trust.

What he did was not “perfect”— No, it was a flagrant assault on our electoral rights, our national security interests, and our fundamental values. Corrupting an election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and destructive violation of one’s oath of office that I can imagine.

In the last several weeks, I have received numerous calls and texts. Many demand that, in their words, “I stand with the team.” I can assure you that that thought has been very much on my mind. I support a great deal of what the President has done. I have voted with him 80% of the time. But my promise before God to apply impartial justice required that I put my personal feelings and biases aside. Were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented, and disregard what I believe my oath and the Constitution demands of me for the sake of a partisan end, it would, I fear, expose my character to history’s rebuke and the censure of my own conscience.

I am aware that there are people in my party and in my state who will strenuously disapprove of my decision, and in some quarters, I will be vehemently denounced. I am sure to hear abuse from the President and his supporters. Does anyone seriously believe I would consent to these consequences other than from an inescapable conviction that my oath before God demanded it of me?

I sought to hear testimony from John Bolton not only because I believed he could add context to the charges, but also because I hoped that what he said might raise reasonable doubt and thus remove from me the awful obligation to vote for impeachment.

Like each member of this deliberative body, I love our country. I believe that our Constitution was inspired by Providence. I am convinced that freedom itself is dependent on the strength and vitality of our national character. As it is with each senator, my vote is an act of conviction. We have come to different conclusions, fellow senators, but I trust we have all followed the dictates of our conscience.

I acknowledge that my verdict will not remove the President from office. The results of this Senate Court will in fact be appealed to a higher court: the judgement of the American people. Voters will make the final decision, just as the President’s lawyers have implored. My vote will likely be in the minority in the Senate. But irrespective of these things, with my vote, I will tell my children and their children that I did my duty to the best of my ability, believing that my country expected it of me. I will only be one name among many, no more or less, to future generations of Americans who look at the record of this trial. They will note merely that I was among the senators who determined that what the President did was wrong, grievously wrong.

We’re all footnotes at best in the annals of history. But in the most powerful nation on earth, the nation conceived in liberty and justice, that is distinction enough for any citizen.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




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Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

Lose?

Not going to happen, buddy.



Tell your racist comrades at CHAZ that they're doing a better job at killing Biden's chances than his own dumb mouth saying stupid shit that his diseased brain cobbles together and then we'll talk.

And I'll still laugh at the idea of Biden winning.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:25 AM

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Quote:

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We also know SECOND that when Trump loses this election the trials begin. And the Mueller report will be front and center. His taxes will be front and center and so on.

If Trump loses, Biden will allow the IRS to cooperate with the subpoena from House of Representatives for Trump's tax returns. Seeing that Trump cheated, the House will then pass a bill requiring Presidential candidates to reveal their tax returns. In the Senate, the GOP will say that is an unconstitutional invasion of privacy. The bill will not pass because of a filibuster. At the next Presidential election, the Republican voters will claim that the Democrats had their chance to require candidates' tax returns be publicized, but the Democrats failed to do anything. Most voters, from both parties, will blame the Democrats, not the GOP.

Meanwhile, Trump's tax cheating will be the subject of court cases. Because of the statue of limitations, most of the cheating can't be prosecuted. What can will be delayed until 2025 by Trump appointed judges sympathetic to Trump and angry, very-very, at politically motivated prosecution by Democrats. When the next Republican is President, the GOP controlled Justice Department, headed by William Barr, will immediately decide to close all of Trump's tax cases. Barr will claim Trump never cheated. Most voters, Democrat and Republican, will believe Barr.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
We also know SECOND that when Trump loses this election the trials begin. And the Mueller report will be front and center. His taxes will be front and center and so on.

If Trump loses, Biden will allow the IRS to cooperate with the subpoena from House of Representatives for Trump's tax returns. Seeing that Trump cheated, the House will then pass a bill requiring Presidential candidates to reveal their tax returns. In the Senate, the GOP will say that is an unconstitutional invasion of privacy. The bill will not pass because of a filibuster. At the next Presidential election, the Republican voters will claim that the Democrats had their chance to require candidates' tax returns be publicized, but the Democrats failed to do anything. Most voters, from both parties, will blame the Democrats, not the GOP.

Meanwhile, Trump's tax cheating will be the subject of court cases. Because of the statue of limitations, most of the cheating can't be prosecuted. What can will be delayed until 2025 by Trump appointed judges sympathetic to Trump and angry, very-very, at politically motivated prosecution by Democrats. When the next Republican is President, the GOP controlled Justice Department, headed by William Barr, will immediately decide to close all of Trump's tax cases. Barr will claim Trump never cheated. Most voters, Democrat and Republican, will believe Barr.




A lot is going to happen but much of what you say is based in negativity. I think elected officials will strive hard to put humpty dumpty back together again. That means Trump has a target on his back. As it should be.

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Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:17 PM

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A lot is going to happen but much of what you say is based in negativity. I think elected officials will strive hard to put humpty dumpty back together again. That means Trump has a target on his back. As it should be.

Other than Mitt Romney, zero Republican elected officials and Federal judges will be shooting at the target on Trump. Instead, they will be shooting at Biden. Every Republican in Congress attacked Obama. Biden will get the same treatment. Unless there are fewer than 34 GOP Senators, they will keep Congress in gridlock. Unless there are fewer than 5 GOP Supreme Court justices, everything Biden does will be ruled unconstitutional. FDR had that problem with the Supreme Court during the first four years of the New Deal. So will Biden unless he does something extreme to frighten the Republicans, but he hasn't the guts to try.
www.fjc.gov/history/timeline/fdrs-court-packing-plan

The GOP understands the situation:
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/packing-the-supreme-court-explaine
d


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Sunday, June 14, 2020 3:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

A lot is going to happen but much of what you say is based in negativity. I think elected officials will strive hard to put humpty dumpty back together again. That means Trump has a target on his back. As it should be.

Other than Mitt Romney, zero Republican elected officials and Federal judges will be shooting at the target on Trump. Instead, they will be shooting at Biden. Every Republican in Congress attacked Obama. Biden will get the same treatment. Unless there are fewer than 34 GOP Senators, they will keep Congress in gridlock. Unless there are fewer than 5 GOP Supreme Court justices, everything Biden does will be ruled unconstitutional. FDR had that problem with the Supreme Court during the first four years of the New Deal. So will Biden unless he does something extreme to frighten the Republicans, but he hasn't the guts to try.
www.fjc.gov/history/timeline/fdrs-court-packing-plan

The GOP understands the situation: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/packing-the-supreme-court-explaine
d





I tend to be less pessimistic about such things. Of course what will be will be second but I prefer to have a more positive outlook. Nobody, even the republicans like Trump and if the wind changes direction in November so will they.

tick tock

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Sunday, June 14, 2020 3:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

I tend to be less pessimistic about such things. Of course what will be will be second but I prefer to have a more positive outlook. Nobody, even the republicans like Trump and if the wind changes direction in November so will they.

tick tock

The Republicans are blasé about pandemic, economy, jobs, National Debt and China while Trump is President, but the Republicans will want solutions instantaneously in Biden's first week or else they will throw bigger and bigger tantrums, getting more and more panicky sounding about the End of America As We Know It. Oh, and disarming Iran and N Korea will become extremely important, although not so much while Trump's in charge.

Judges? None that Biden sends to the Senate for approval will be good enough for the GOP. All will be too liberal . . .

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:59 PM

THG


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Originally posted by THG:

Mueller handed in his report. We should start learning a few things this weekend.

tick tock



T


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Barr's New Mueller Nightmare: Key Prosecutor To Tell All Under Oath

Attorney General Bill Barr has received increased scrutiny for his efforts to politicize the Department of Justice, with over 2,000 former federal prosecutors calling for his resignation for acting as the President’s “personal lawyer.” “Whistleblower” Aaron Zelinsky, a federal prosecutor who resigned in protest of Barr’s fight to grant Former Trump aide Roger Stone a lighter sentence will testify before House Dems;


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Saturday, June 20, 2020 7:49 AM

THG


Robert Mueller: Trump may have lied

Special counsel Robert Mueller raised the possibility that President Trump lied to him during the Russia investigation.

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Saturday, June 20, 2020 7:50 AM

SIGNYM

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So, where are those trials, THUGR?

It's pitiful, watching you beat a dead horse, over and over and over ....

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Saturday, June 20, 2020 8:03 AM

THG


Berman Fights Back After Barr Says He’s Out as U.S. Attorney

Bloomberg Berman Fights Back After Barr Says He’s Out as U.S. Attorney
(Bloomberg) -- Geoffrey Berman, who has investigated close allies of President Donald Trump, said he won’t step down as the U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York, after Attorney General William Barr said he’d be replaced with U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton.


Berman is “stepping down” after 2 1/2 years in the post, Barr said in a statement. He gave no further details. But shortly after that statement Berman fired back with his own on the Southern District of New York’s website.

“I learned in a press release from the Attorney General tonight that I was ‘stepping down’ as United States Attorney,” Berman said. “I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position, to which I was appointed by the judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

“I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate,” Berman said. “Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption.”

The late Friday evening announcement from Barr caught many by surprise and raised questions about the move, including from Preet Bharara, Berman’s predecessor whom Trump fired after he refused to quit.

Barr offered Berman other positions, including head of the Civil Division at Main Justice, according to a Justice Department official familiar with the matter who asked not to be named. Berman declined, the person said.

“This late Friday night dismissal reeks of potential corruption of the legal process,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement. “What is angering President Trump? A previous action by this U.S. Attorney or one that is ongoing?”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/berman-fights-back-after-barr-
says-he-s-out-as-u-s-attorney/ar-BB15JEpp?ocid=msedgntp


tick tock

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Saturday, June 20, 2020 9:44 AM

THG


T

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Bridges Burned: Watch Trump Hire 'Best People' And Trash Them As 'Not Qualified' On Their Way Out


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Saturday, June 20, 2020 1:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



So, where are those trials, THUGR?

It's pitiful, watching you beat a dead horse, over and over and over ....

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Saturday, June 20, 2020 1:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hope this thread is a Rolex.

Casio batteries expire long before Ted's impeachment threads ever will.

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Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:57 AM

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Former Acting U.S. Solicitor General Neal Katyal joins MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber to discuss a new complaint from a former DOJ prosecutor alleging they helped convicted Trump ally Roger Stone fight for a lighter sentence.



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Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:36 AM

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T

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Prosecutor to testify Roger Stone sentencing was politicized


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Saturday, June 27, 2020 10:39 AM

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Outrage mounts over report Russia offered bounties to Afghanistan militants for killing US soldiers

Outrage has greeted a bombshell New York Times story that says American intelligence officials believe a Russian military intelligence unit offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants for killing foreign soldiers in Afghanistan, including targeting Americans.

The story, citing its sources as unnamed officials briefed on the matter, said that the US had come to the conclusion about the operation several months ago and and offered rewards for successful attacks last year.

The Times wrote: “The intelligence finding was briefed to Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March.” However, despite drawing up numerous options by way of a response, the White House has not taken any action.

As the news broke it triggered a fierce response from top Democrats, especially those who have long pointed to what they say is Trump’s overly close relationship to Russia’s autocratic leader, Vladimir Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/27/russia-offered-bountie
s-afghanistan-militants-killing-us-soldiers-report-outrage


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Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

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Outrage mounts over report Russia offered bounties to Afghanistan militants for killing US soldiers

Outrage has greeted a bombshell New York Times story that says American intelligence officials believe a Russian military intelligence unit offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants for killing foreign soldiers in Afghanistan, including targeting Americans.

The story, citing its sources as unnamed officials briefed on the matter, said that the US had come to the conclusion about the operation several months ago and and offered rewards for successful attacks last year.

The Times wrote: “The intelligence finding was briefed to Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March.” However, despite drawing up numerous options by way of a response, the White House has not taken any action.

As the news broke it triggered a fierce response from top Democrats, especially those who have long pointed to what they say is Trump’s overly close relationship to Russia’s autocratic leader, Vladimir Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/27/russia-offered-bountie
s-afghanistan-militants-killing-us-soldiers-report-outrage


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T


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Were these bounties in the Steele Dossier?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Meanwhile ... those trials?

When are they gonna happen THUGR?


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Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


39,916,800 seconds have ticked since Anti-American Ted started this thread.


That's a lot of tick tocks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:20 AM

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T

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Putin paid a bounty to kill American soldiers. Donald Trump knew about it but did nothing. How can Trump lead America when he can't even defend it?




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Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:35 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Meanwhile ... those trials?

When are they gonna happen THUGR?




Soon comrade, soon.

T


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Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


OVER 40 MILLION SECONDS!!!

40,003,200 seconds have ticked away since Anti-American Ted started this thread.


That's a lot of tick tocks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:44 PM

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:42 PM

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Ted being gross and stupid again.

*yawn*

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 4:34 PM

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Berman Fights Back After Barr Says He’s Out as U.S. Attorney

Bloomberg Berman Fights Back After Barr Says He’s Out as U.S. Attorney
(Bloomberg) -- Geoffrey Berman, who has investigated close allies of President Donald Trump, said he won’t step down as the U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York, after Attorney General William Barr said he’d be replaced with U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton.


Berman is “stepping down” after 2 1/2 years in the post, Barr said in a statement. He gave no further details. But shortly after that statement Berman fired back with his own on the Southern District of New York’s website.

“I learned in a press release from the Attorney General tonight that I was ‘stepping down’ as United States Attorney,” Berman said. “I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position, to which I was appointed by the judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

“I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate,” Berman said. “Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption.”

The late Friday evening announcement from Barr caught many by surprise and raised questions about the move, including from Preet Bharara, Berman’s predecessor whom Trump fired after he refused to quit.

Barr offered Berman other positions, including head of the Civil Division at Main Justice, according to a Justice Department official familiar with the matter who asked not to be named. Berman declined, the person said.

“This late Friday night dismissal reeks of potential corruption of the legal process,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement. “What is angering President Trump? A previous action by this U.S. Attorney or one that is ongoing?”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/berman-fights-back-after-barr-
says-he-s-out-as-u-s-attorney/ar-BB15JEpp?ocid=msedgntp


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Deep state describes despicable power-hungry insidious moles.

This is kinda funny.

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Sunday, July 5, 2020 8:35 AM

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T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



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Sunday, July 5, 2020 8:43 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:




Hello JSF. Comrade kiki, are you in there. Too funny...Or are we to believe JSF is such a loser he has to go to the library to post? Can it be both?

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 5, 2020 8:54 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Sunday, July 5, 2020 10:37 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:




Hello JSF. Comrade kiki, are you in there. Too funny...Or are we to believe JSF is such a loser he has to go to the library to post? Can it be both?

T




Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:




I take it you find it funny JSF can't afford his/her own computer and needs to use the one at the library. All the while telling us how to interpret the stock and bond market. Me too, I think it's hilarious.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Not even close.

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


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Monday, July 6, 2020 1:58 PM

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The explosive tell-all book by Trump's niece is coming out two weeks earlier than expected

A tell-all book by President Trump's niece Mary, a licensed clinical psychologist, will now be published next week, two weeks earlier than expected, the publisher Simon & Schuster said Monday.

The book portrays the president as a "damaged man" with "lethal flaws" who "threatens the world's health, economic security, and social fabric."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-explosive-tell-all-book-by-tr
ump-s-niece-is-coming-out-two-weeks-earlier-than-expected/ar-BB16oQEG?ocid=msedgntp


Can you say oh shit? I can. I can say oh shit.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 6, 2020 2:12 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

The book portrays the president as a "damaged man" with "lethal flaws" who "threatens the world's health, economic security, and social fabric."

Many experts with good reputations say Trump is a psycho.
www.google.com/search?q=Is+Trump+a+psycho%3F


Donald Trump gave his longest speech yet at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), an annual gathering of conservative politicians and pundits. It was a chaotic, unscripted oration filled with unflattering impersonations of the president's opponents. In a speech lasting more than two hours, he took aim at the Green New Deal, Russian collusion, illegal immigrations and investigations into his personal finances. Notably, he made no mention of Michael Cohen, his long-time personal lawyer who gave a testimony to congress last week calling Trump a racist, a con man, and a cheat.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 6, 2020 4:01 PM

THG


Second he is Certifiably nuts. A narcissist and sociopath at the very least. As are those who remain loyal to him who post here. Talk about morons. Holy shit, comrades sig and kiki as well as Jack rappy JSF (kiki again) and others.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 6, 2020 5:49 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Second he is Certifiably nuts. A narcissist and sociopath at the very least. As are those who remain loyal to him who post here. Talk about morons. Holy shit, comrades sig and kiki as well as Jack rappy JSF (kiki again) and others.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

For businesses and the wealthy there are advantages to having the Federal government run by psycho Trump's loyalists: cheating on your taxes and cutting corners on regulations got a whole lot easier.

But on the other hand, Trump has also cancelled all nuclear weapons treaties, which could end all life on Earth. It's a contest between the rich certainly getting richer or possible death by nuclear-holocaust/pandemic/climate-change-catastrophe.

Personally, I think the people who defend Trump are the same people who screwed up their own lives but can't admit or know they did wrong. Trump gives them the comfortable explanation that the mess they made out of life is not their fault, but rather the blame is on the radical left, the deep state, the democrats, the Chinese, immigrants, minorities, but not ever their own addled brains and bad behavior.

America has seen it before: the Confederates believed they were always right and losing didn't make them any wiser. It made them bitter and angry at the deep injustice of having to pay their slaves. If the Trump defenders should happen to lose in November, they won't wise up. They will double down for 2022 on being what they are and making sure the rest of Americans are dragged into as big a mess as the Trump defenders' lives are. Trump is their Jefferson Davis. Long live the dream of the new Trump Confederacy where slaves and immigrants do the hard work, and whites prosper doing only what is easy.

"Trump is trashing arms control treaties and making the world more dangerous"
www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-06-11/trump-trashing-arms-control-t
reaties


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 6, 2020 8:13 PM

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LOL

November 4th is going to be amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 6, 2020 10:48 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL

November 4th is going to be amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It will be amazing. Whichever side wins, I win. If the GOP wins, I win more tax breaks and looser rules on pollution. If the Democrats win, then I win a bet.

Former Governor John Kasich (R-OH) says Donald Trump "is in a meltdown" after the President complained about NASCAR's recent decision to ban the Confederate flag from all races and events. Trump could have a mental breakdown, which would be very entertaining. TV ratings will skyrocket with Trump foaming at the mouth and howling at the Moon doing his best impression of King George III's final insanity. Got video:
www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/07/07/trump-flailing-meltdown-defend-
confederate-flag-john-kasich-ben-jealous-ebof-vpx.cnn


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 6, 2020 10:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL

November 4th is going to be amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It will be amazing. Whichever side wins, I win. If the GOP wins, I win more tax breaks and looser rules on pollution. If the Democrats win, then I win a bet.




Fake news.

It will be amazing because I'm going to watch Ted and Nilbog go completely bonkers and then I get to watch you talk about Orange Man Bad and lie about your money for 4 more years.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:42 PM

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Facebook to Remove Roger Stone Pages Linked to Fake Accounts

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/facebook-to-remove-roger-stone
-pages-linked-to-fake-accounts/ar-BB16uS5P?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Second he is Certifiably nuts. A narcissist and sociopath at the very least. As are those who remain loyal to him who post here. Talk about morons. Holy shit, comrades sig and kiki as well as Jack rappy JSF (kiki again) and others.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


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Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:




Hello JSF. Comrade kiki, are you in there. Too funny...Or are we to believe JSF is such a loser he has to go to the library to post? Can it be both?

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:54 PM

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Roger Stone Can Be Tried, Again

Donald Trump’s commutation of his friend Roger Stone’s criminal sentence is one of the most severe affronts to the rule of law during the Trump administration—and that’s really saying something. Fortunately, it’s not indelible. A future Justice Department could indict Stone once again. And this fact highlights that on the ballot in 2020 is not just a forward-looking end to Trump’s corruption and lawlessness, but also a reversal of some of his administration’s worst excesses.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/roger-stone-can-be-tried-again/ar-BB
16J2wZ?ocid=msedgntp


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Friday, July 17, 2020 6:56 AM

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T

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Friday, July 17, 2020 7:20 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


If he loses the election, Trump could be targeted by a new Democratic attorney general determined to hold him accountable for a laundry list of possible federal offenses, including:

1) Obstruction of justice in connection with the investigation conducted by former special counsel Robert Mueller into suspected Russian interference in the 2016 election.

2) Obstruction of Congress, extortion and bribery in connection with his efforts to pressure Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to dig up political dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden in exchange for the release of U.S. military aid previously approved by Congress.

3) Income tax and financial fraud for underreporting the revenue earned from his real-estate ventures, and misrepresenting the value of his assets, as alleged by the New York Times in a lengthy 2018 exposé.

4) Violation of campaign finance laws for conspiring with his former lawyer Michael Cohen to pay hush money to pornographic film star Stephanie Clifford, aka “Stormy Daniels,” and former Playboy model Karen McDougal in the run-up to the 2016 election. In 2018, Cohen pleaded guilty to the Daniels and McDougal payoffs. The complaint lodged against Cohen treated Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator, referring to him as “Individual 1” in keeping with Justice Department practices, and alleging that he directed Cohen to make the money transfers.

5) A particularly aggressive attorney general could also charge Trump with involuntary manslaughter for contributing to the staggering COVID-19 death toll. Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner, now a legal analyst with NBC and MSNBC, made the case for involuntary manslaughter in an April interview with journalist Mehdi Hasan on the Intercept’s “Deconstructed” podcast.

“There are three things, what we call elements… that we have to prove in order to hold somebody accountable for involuntary manslaughter,” Kirschner explained. “One, that a person acted in a grossly negligent way or importantly for our purposes, failed to act and that failure was a product of gross negligence… Number two, their conduct was reasonably likely to involve serious bodily injury or death to another as a product of that grossly negligent act or failure to act. And three, that they thereby caused the death of another.” Kirschner argued that Trump’s record on COVID-19 satisfies all three elements for criminal liability.

More at www.alternet.org/2020/07/trump-has-a-lot-to-fear-and-he-wont-leave-off
ice-quietly
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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