Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies. by THG

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Signym, I fail to see why Trump was worried about what Mueller might have found on the Russians.

SECOND, I fail to see that Trump WAS worried about "the Russians".

Just because Trump repeatedly called the Mueller investigation a "witch hunt" doesn't mean that he was worried about the Russians, or even that he was worried about what someone might find concerning collusion*. Being maliciously prosecuted would be enough to get anyone pissed off, ESPECIALLY if you know that you're innocent, and ESPECIALLY if you know that this politically-based prosecution will have real-life political consequences.

You're either stupid or you're lying when you keep insisting that Trump was worried about "the Russians". Given your history, I think you're just lying.

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Signym, I fail to see why Trump was worried about what Mueller might have found on the Russians.
SECOND, I fail to see that Trump WAS worried about "the Russians".

Just because Trump repeatedly called the Mueller investigation a "witch hunt" doesn't mean that he was worried about the Russians, or even that he was worried about what someone might find concerning collusion*. Being maliciously prosecuted would be enough to get anyone pissed off, ESPECIALLY if you know that you're innocent, and ESPECIALLY if you know that this politically-based prosecution will have real-life political consequences.

You're either stupid or you're lying when you keep insisting that Trump was worried about "the Russians". Given your history, I think you're just lying.

"Nyet Yet A Crime" -- Trump campaign slogan for 2020, showing that he has no reasons not to accept help from foreign nationals. That is a shorter slogan than "Make America Great Again".

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Monday, April 29, 2019 8:46 AM

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OK, here is the beginning part of my analysis of your linked article. I will try to clarify what the article garbles ...

The article says that the indictment says that there is a link between the spearphishing campaign which wormed its way into the DCCC and eventually the DNC computers, dcleaks, and guccifer2.0.

They claim that the connection between the spearphishing campaign using a Bitly account and the Malyasian VPN server which hosted the DCleaks.com account was an email used to establish both. Also, if I understand them correctly, both the Bitly account and the DCLeaks.com account were paid from the same cryptocurrency account. (If this was a Russian operation it seems awfully sloppy.) So the spearphising operation and DCleaks are linked, according to the indictment.

They then claim that the VPN account DCleaks logged into Guccifer2.0's Twitter account, proving (in their view) that Guccifer2.0 was linked to both DCLeaks and the spearphishing.

Now, comes the important part of the article ...

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“What isn’t mentioned in the indictment is that, on one occasion, someone reportedly logged into the @Guccifer_2 Twitter account without connecting to a VPN service first, revealing their real IP address ... “U.S. investigators [who?]identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow.”

So, the connection between Guccifer2.0 and Russia ISN'T in the indictment. At least, not so far.

But the article keep banging away at this PRESUMED connection as if were in the indictment, and real, instead of something that somebody "reported" once upon a time.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 8:47 AM

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"Nyet Yet A Crime"- Trump campaign slogan for 2020.- SECONDRATE

Like all liars, you eventually resort to just making shit up.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 9:09 AM

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Signym, you don't have to protect Russia from false accusations of hacking. Mueller can't arrest GRU Intelligence officers for doing their job in Moscow. If they broke American laws, so what? Putin already said the GRU did no such thing, and that should satisfy you. But even if it does not, Putin won't extradite his employees to some Kangaroo Court prosecution by Mueller in America.

Signym, you don't have to protect Trump, either. Whatever he did is not illegal because the newly drafted Foreign Interference in American Elections Act of 2019 is not the law. The Republican controlled Senate will never pass that law. And finally, Trump won't sign such a law. It would require candidates or campaign aides to refuse assistance from any foreign government and to tell the FBI about such offers within 72 hours of being contacted. It would apply even to volunteers.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 11:41 AM

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Lying again SECONDRATE?

Who says I'm trying to protect Russian GRU officers?

I'm just trying to get to the truth, something that you (and a few other peopke around here) seem to be allergic to.

All of those lies about Iraq's nonexistent WMD had real-world consequences, not just for Iraq but for us. Those lies about Libya, Syria, and Ukraine had real-world consequences too, just like those lies about Vietnam had consequences for you,

As a nation and a people, we can't possibly choose a wise course of action if we don't have a solid understanding of events. It would be worse than trying to drive a bus whle hallucinating.

So, why are you defending hallucinating?

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Monday, April 29, 2019 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Lying again SECONDRATE?

Who says I'm trying to protect Russian GRU officers?

I'm just trying to get to the truth, something that you (and a few other peopke around here) seem to be allergic to.

All of those lies about Iraq's nonexistent WMD had real-world consequences, not just for Iraq but for us. Those lies about Libya, Syria, and Ukraine had real-world consequences too, just like those lies about Vietnam had consequences for you,

As a nation and a people, we can't possibly choose a wise course of action if we don't have a solid understanding of events. It would be worse than trying to drive a bus whle hallucinating.

So, why are you defending hallucinating?

Aren't you a delicate soul, Signym. You mentioned Bush/Cheney's imaginary Iraqi WMDs justifying a real Iraqi Invasion, but I'm fairly sure that Trump is not planning a Russian invasion based on real Russian hacking. What would be Trump's justification? The Russians were simply doing their job of harassing their political enemy -- Hillary. Trump was the beneficiary, but that's not illegal for Trump to benefit because the "Foreign Interference in American Elections Act of 2019" was not law in 2016 and won't be in 2020. Signym, why make a big deal out of pretending the Russians didn't do what was done? That only encourages the Russians to more daring exploits. Nobody was hurt by the Russians except for Hillary's feelings.

"Foreign Interference in American Elections Act of 2019"
www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2353/text

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Monday, April 29, 2019 12:18 PM

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Trump ran on the promise of normalizing relations with Russia. Now, personally, I'm all for negotiating down the threat of Nuclear Armageddon with the only other nuclear superpower on the planet, if such can be arranged. Much of our foreign policy (and military expenditures) are driven by reflexive anti-Russian sentiment, which is fostered by stampeding our entire population with tin-foil-hat conspiracies a la Rachel Maddow, and ... you.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump ran on the promise of normalizing relations with Russia. Now, personally, I'm all for negotiating down the threat of Nuclear Armageddon with the only other nuclear superpower on the planet, if such can be arranged. Much of our foreign policy (and military expenditures) are driven by reflexive anti-Russian sentiment, which is fostered by stampeding our entire population with tin-foil-hat conspiracies a la Rachel Maddow, and ... you.

Signym, you should be having doubts that Trump intends to negotiate "down the threat of Nuclear Armageddon with the only other nuclear superpower on the planet, if such can be arranged".

Why, you ask? Because:

Trump announced in October that he plans to “terminate” the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, raising concerns about the return of Cold War-style tensions over U.S. and Russian deployments of intermediate-range missiles in Europe and elsewhere.
www.armscontrol.org/act/2018-11/news/trump-withdraw-us-inf-treaty

The U.S. Department of Energy has started making a new, low-yield nuclear weapon designed to counter Russia. The National Nuclear Security Administration says production of the weapon, known as the W76-2, has begun at its Pantex Plant in the Texas Panhandle.
www.npr.org/2019/01/28/689510716/trump-administration-begins-productio
n-of-a-new-nuclear-weapon

Trump’s plan to expand America’s nuclear arsenal is encountering sharp opposition in the Democratic House of Representatives, with critics saying the administration is creating unnecessary risks to world peace—particularly by adding new tactical nuclear weapons that can be used in a conventional war. The debate is potentially set to come to a head in June, when the House will begin marking up the annual defense policy bill.

The clash comes at a pivotal moment for global arms control. The Trump administration is seriously considering dismantling at least one treaty with Russia that has set arms control policy for the past 30 years.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/11/will-congress-let-trump-expand-am
ericas-nuclear-arsenal/

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Monday, April 29, 2019 2:44 PM

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Of course I'm concerned. I think this is one of those real world consequences of that massive deep state DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN that you and Rachel Maddow are so intent on pushing.

If you haven't noticed, I just called you a liar, again.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Of course I'm concerned. I think this is one of those real world consequences of that massive deep state DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN that you and Rachel Maddow are so intent on pushing.

If you haven't noticed, I just called you a liar, again.

By "this" do you mean Trump's tweeting in 2016 that the United States “must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability”? That was not the deep state misinforming him. That was all Trump's feelings. Trump has a lust for nukes. He does not explain why. It is a mystery: https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/11/will-congress-let-trump-expand-am
ericas-nuclear-arsenal/

There is another mystery at
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/graham-challenges-kushners-bid-to-down
play-russia-interference/ar-BBWnrwk

Why do Trump and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham get along well despite disagreeing over Russia hacking the Democrats?

“Can you imagine what we would be saying if the Russians or the Iranians hacked into the presidential team of the Republican Party?” Graham asked. “So, no — this is a big deal. It’s not just a few Facebook ads. They were very successful in pitting one American against the other during the 2016 campaign.”

Graham also argued that “an attack on one party should be an attack on all” and said he has spoken to Trump about imposing more sanctions on Moscow.

“They’re coming at us again, and I’d like to stop them, and one way to stop them is to make them pay a price,” Graham said, later adding: “The Russians are up to it again. . . . Everything we’ve done with the Russians is not working. We need more sanctions, not less.”

Trump, however, demonstrates a continued unwillingness to accept that Russia interfered in the 2016 election, even questioning his own intelligence community’s findings about Russian hacking. Multiple news outlets have reported that Trump believes such an assertion undercuts his victory.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 5:23 PM

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Oh for god's sake, SECONDRATE, stop spinning your endless lies.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 10:03 PM

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Oh for god's sake, SECONDRATE, stop spinning your endless lies.

Signym, there are stories about Trump and how nuts for nukes he is. More American nukes is always better:

We now have an idea what prompted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to call President Trump a "moron": NBC News is reporting that Trump had spoken openly in the preceding meeting with national security leaders about a return to a Cold War footing with nuclear weapons — what would amount to about a tenfold increase:

Trump’s comments, the officials said, came in response to a briefing slide he was shown that charted the steady reduction of U.S. nuclear weapons since the late 1960s. Trump indicated he wanted a bigger stockpile, not the bottom position on that downward-sloping curve.

According to the officials present, Trump’s advisers, among them the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, were surprised. Officials briefly explained the legal and practical impediments to a nuclear buildup and how the current military posture is stronger than it was at the height of the build-up. In interviews, they told NBC News that no such expansion is planned.

It was after this July 20 meeting that Tillerson reportedly offered his “moron” comment — something the State Department has pretty directly denied, even as Tillerson declined to do so personally.

More at www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/11/trumps-loose-rhetori
c-on-nuclear-weapons-has-become-a-very-real-concern/

Hearing the U.S. president promise last week to respond to any North Korean threats with “fire and fury like the world has never seen” was astounding — though perhaps it shouldn’t have been. Trump has been publicly discussing his vivid fears about nuclear weapons for decades, predating any serious talk of him running for president. These comments suggest that Trump thinks about nuclear annihilation far more than the average American — but he simultaneously has a particularly weak understanding of how the strategy surrounding it works. That’s created the frightening mix that was on display last week: It appears that Trump is well aware of the awesome threat posed by nuclear weapons, but he thinks it can be addressed like a problem in the board room (of a reality TV show). . . .

A month before Trump was inaugurated, Mother Jones looked at Trump’s many public remarks about nuclear war and noted that he’s often spoken as if he thinks nuclear war is inevitable. Here’s Trump in a 1990 Playboy interview:

I’ve always thought about the issue of nuclear war; it’s a very important element in my thought process. It’s the ultimate, the ultimate catastrophe, the biggest problem this world has, and nobody’s focusing on the nuts and bolts of it. It’s a little like sickness. People don’t believe they’re going to get sick until they do. Nobody wants to talk about it. I believe the greatest of all stupidities is people’s believing it will never happen, because everybody knows how destructive it will be, so nobody uses weapons. What bullshit.

This is a frightening thing to hear (Trump has admitted, “Look, I’m very much a fatalist”), but as the New York Daily News reports, over the years, he has actually laid out what he believes is the path to our salvation. Unsurprisingly, it involves Trump single-handedly saving humanity with his superior negotiation skills.

More at http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/08/trump-thinks-about-nukes-a-lot-
doesnt-know-much-about-them.html

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Monday, April 29, 2019 11:28 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I see that you're trying to derail the conversation that there is NO EVIDENCE that Russia "hacked" anyone, and that you got your ass handed to you from your own link.

Who the fuck cares what you think? I don't post for your benefit, SECONDRATE, but for others'. You're a waste of time and human flesh.

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I see that you're trying to derail the conversation that there is NO EVIDENCE that Russia "hacked" anyone, and that you got your ass handed to you from your own link.

Who the fuck cares what you think? I don't post for your benefit, SECONDRATE, but for others'. You're a waste of time and human flesh.

Signym, there can be no conversation because you are a Russian troll masquerading as an American. If you were a real American, your default position would not be to deny the belief shared by, for one big example, Senator Graham, Trump's good friend:
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/graham-challenges-kushners-bid-to-down
play-russia-interference/ar-BBWnrwk

Trump denies Russian hacking because he is Trump. If there was hacking, he would feel like a smaller man who needed Russia's help to win. His victory margin was 80,000 votes spread across three states. Same dynamic with Trump and nukes. If Trump had fewer nukes, he would feel like a smaller man. That is why he is pushing for more bombs, despite the expense and danger:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/11/will-congress-let-trump-expand-am
ericas-nuclear-arsenal/

Trump understands nothing about nukes, other than the flash and boom:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/08/trump-thinks-about-nukes-a-lot-
doesnt-know-much-about-them.html

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:34 AM

You can't just go around calling people who disagree with your viewpoint actual Russians and expect anybody with half a brain to take you seriously.

Careless and stupid, it seems that Second has gone full retarded with Trump derangement syndrome.

I was pulling for ya, buddy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:55 AM

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You can't just go around calling people who disagree with your viewpoint actual Russians and expect anybody with half a brain to take you seriously.

Careless and stupid, it seems that Second has gone full retarded with Trump derangement syndrome.

I was pulling for ya, buddy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You guys keep Feeding the Trolls in this Troll Thread.
But second does provide a crossection of Looney Bin media outlets, like NY this, NY that, motherjones, MSN, etc.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:09 AM

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I see that you're trying to derail the conversation that there is NO EVIDENCE that Russia "hacked" anyone, and that you got your ass handed to you from your own link.
Who the fuck cares what you think? I don't post for your benefit, SECONDRATE, but for others'. You're a waste of time and human flesh.
= SIGNY

Signym, there can be no conversation because you are a Russian troll masquerading as an American. If you were a real American, your default position would not be to deny the belief ....

Well, that's your problme right there: Your beliefs.

I TOLD YOU you had religion, didn't I? You know what a "belief" is, right? It's something that you think is real despite lack of evidence, or even in the face of contravening evidence. Because, if you could prove something with evidence, it wouldn't be a "beief", it would be a fact.

Too bad for you, SECONDRATE. The snakes in your brain have won, the human in there is no more: You're merely a receptacle for your conflicting beliefs.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Well, that's your problme right there: Your beliefs.

I TOLD YOU you had religion, didn't I? You know what a "belief" is, right? It's something that you think is real despite lack of evidence, or even in the face of contravening evidence. Because, if you could prove something with evidence, it wouldn't be a "beief", it would be a fact.

Too bad for you, SECONDRATE. The snakes in your brain have won, the human in there is no more: You're merely a receptacle for your conflicting beliefs.

Are you melting down, Signym, because Trump is buying more nukes but says he wants what you want, fewer nukes? I see that Trump has the same coping mechanisms as you do when there are contradictions between beliefs, actions, and words flying out of mouths. There are dimwitted insults/falsehoods in this tweet from yesterday, but that never stops him or Signym:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Bob Mueller was a great HERO to the Radical Left Democrats. Now that the Mueller Report is finished, with a finding of NO COLLUSION & NO OBSTRUCTION (based on a review of Report by our highly respected A.G.), the Dems are going around saying, “Bob who, sorry, don’t know the man.”
8:06 AM - 29 Apr 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1122879760085004288

Signym, please explain oh-so-carefully why you believe Russia did not hack the Democrats. You need more than Putin's word, Trump's word, or the word from https://twitter.com/zerohedge

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 2:02 PM

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Signym, please explain oh-so-carefully why you believe Russia did not hack the Democrats. You need more than Putin's word, Trump's word, or the word from https://twitter.com/zerohedge

Prove they did.

30 million dollars and 2 years couldn't. I'm sure a cow fart herder from Texas has a better shot at it.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Prove they did.

30 million dollars and 2 years couldn't. I'm sure a cow fart herder from Texas has a better shot at it.

Good to know that you figured out it was all a Witch Hunt. And you did it using only the power of your mind. (And maybe a little help from Trump, who is neutral and truthful.) And those Russians indicted by Mueller? Innocent of hacking until convicted.

CNN, the news source most hated by Trump, after the failing NYTimes and the Washington Post, has 77 Trump lies from the Mueller Report.

www.cnn.com/2019/04/30/politics/list-of-trump-falsehoods-mueller-repor
t/index.html

#77:

In an interview with The New York Times, Giuliani said that President Trump asserted that discussions about the Trump Tower Moscow project were "going on from the day I announced to the day I won." (Oh-uh!) Giuliani later issued a statement saying that his comments about Trump's knowledge of the Trump Tower Moscow project were "hypothetical and not based on conversations I had with the president."

What the report said:

"In an interview with The New York Times , Giuliani quoted the President as saying that the discussions regarding the Trump Moscow project were 'going on from the day I announced to the day I won.' On January 21, 2019, Giuliani issued a statement that said: "My recent statements about discussions during the 2016 campaign between Michael Cohen and candidate Donald Trump about a potential Trump Moscow ' project ' were hypothetical and not based on conversations I had with the president."

SOURCE: VOLUME II, PAGE 152

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:19 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SECONDRATE, what does your post have to do with Russian hacking???

Oh, NOTHING, you say??

That's why you're so not worth a thoughtful reply!

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:44 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDRATE, what does your post have to do with Russian hacking???

Oh, NOTHING, you say??

That's why you're so not worth a thoughtful reply!

I had not realized that Mueller indicted Russians for hacking and he did not have enough proof to convince an impartial jury consisting of Trump, Putin and Signym. I apologize.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/25/muellers-russia-report
-special-counsel-indictments-charges/3266050002/

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:40 PM

Robert Mueller Told AG William Barr His Depiction Of Report Wasn't Accurate

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Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:48 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Robert Mueller Told AG William Barr His Depiction Of Report Wasn't Accurate

Impeach Barr - keep going until all the lying scumbags are gone.

I still don't get what this Orange fugger holds over so many people. Whatever it is, it makes them willing to ruin their reputations for him. By the time the dust settles and they've been charged for their crimes, I doubt a single one will be left untarnished.

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Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:15 AM

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This morning Trump is in another rage against Mueller, Obama and Democrats.
It will be a very entertaining year as Trump loses his mind on twitter (He really went crazy about embargoing Cuba, which means US Navy ships surrounding the island, but that is a different Trump rant that happened today. By tomorrow the old fool will have forgotten what he wrote.):

1) Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

NO COLLUSION, NO OBSTRUCTION. Besides, how can you have Obstruction when not only was there No Collusion (by Trump), but the bad actions were done by the “other” side? The greatest con-job in the history of American Politics!
6:03 AM - 1 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1123573705697894400

2) Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Why didn’t President Obama do something about Russia in September (before November Election) when told by the FBI? He did NOTHING, and had no intention of doing anything!
5:28 AM - 1 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1123564951203930112

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Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:10 PM

When will Mueller's Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition be over?

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Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:16 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When will Mueller's Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition be over?

It's over. People like SECONDRATE just don't like what it said (just like they didn't like the election results), so people like SECONDRATE will be muttering to themselves until they get over their Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:47 PM

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:51 AM

Agreed. These scumbags actually plan this shit out, but don't realize that there are good people out there that will "collar up" (as cops like to say).
In other words, they will get their man (or, in this case, their men and women).

Dems need to pull the trigger and impeach these bastards already...Barr included.

Lindsey Graham made a deal with the devil. I wonder, what did he ask Satan
to bring him for Christmas. Do they still bust rocks in Levenworth?

SGG

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Robert Mueller Told AG William Barr His Depiction Of Report Wasn't Accurate

Impeach Barr - keep going until all the lying scumbags are gone.

I still don't get what this Orange fugger holds over so many people. Whatever it is, it makes them willing to ruin their reputations for him. By the time the dust settles and they've been charged for their crimes, I doubt a single one will be left untarnished.

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 5:55 AM

Impeach EVERYONE!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 6:06 AM

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:20 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's over. People like SECONDRATE just don't like what it said (just like they didn't like the election results), so people like SECONDRATE will be muttering to themselves until they get over their Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Signym, you are in error. I like the Mueller Report. It is Mueller who does not like the Mueller Report -- the fantasy version coming out of Barr's and Trump's mouths. The fantasy "No Obstruction, No Russians" version. Mueller wrote Barr a letter complaining about that fantasy version.
www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-letter-to-barr-on-russia-report

Trump will tweet himself into trouble with historians about his version of the Mueller Report:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
"The Mueller Witch Hunt is completely OVER!" @SeanHannity
8:14 PM - 1 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1123787846387630081

Despite Trump's, or Signym's, fantasy version of the Mueller report, Mueller's version did indict Russians working for Putin. It was not a witch hunt. And Mueller found obstruction, but he made it clear that Mueller was operating under DoJ rules forbidding indicting a President, but Trump can be charged once he is not President.

“If this is what a complete and total exoneration looks like, I’d hate to see a damning report.”
www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484731/mueller-report-trump-barr-obstruction-l
egal-experts

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 10:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's over. People like SECONDRATE just don't like what it said (just like they didn't like the election results), so people like SECONDRATE will be muttering to themselves until they get over their Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Signym, you are in error. I like the Mueller Report. It is Mueller who does not like the Mueller Report -- the fantasy version coming out of Barr's and Trump's mouths. The fantasy "No Obstruction, No Russians" version. Mueller wrote Barr a letter complaining about that fantasy version.
www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-letter-to-barr-on-russia-report

Trump will tweet himself into trouble with historians about his version of the Mueller Report:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
"The Mueller Witch Hunt is completely OVER!" @SeanHannity
8:14 PM - 1 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1123787846387630081

Despite Trump's, or Signym's, fantasy version of the Mueller report, Mueller's version did indict Russians working for Putin. It was not a witch hunt. And Mueller found obstruction, but he made it clear that Mueller was operating under DoJ rules forbidding indicting a President, but Trump can be charged once he is not President.

“If this is what a complete and total exoneration looks like, I’d hate to see a damning report.”
www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484731/mueller-report-trump-barr-obstruction-l
egal-experts

The problem with Tinfoil hats is they are too fragile, and must be made anew endlessly. Or is that just Aluminium-foil hats?

$30M and 2 years to find we will wait 6 years to indict Trump, and we only indicted fictional people who are out of Jurisdiction.

No Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition here. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 11:04 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

The problem with Tinfoil hats is they are too fragile, and must be made anew endlessly. Or is that just Aluminium-foil hats?

$30M and 2 years to find we will wait 6 years to indict Trump, and we only indicted fictional people who are out of Jurisdiction.

No Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition here. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

What Mueller found was Putin's GRU agents worked on Trump's campaign. Mueller indicted the Russians. On the other hand, Trump lied about the Russians helping him win. And both Trump's lawyer and campaign manager went to jail over just that point about Russians.

In a story about how difficult it was for Nasa to catch a liar and put him in jail: “It has taken a long time to get here, involving years of investigation and testing, but as of today, it has been worth every minute, and I am extremely pleased with the entire team’s efforts.”
http://spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=54006

It took NASA KSC, NASA OIG, and DOJ nearly a decade to figure out what went wrong - on missions worth $700,000,000 - and all that the responsible company has to pay is $46 million - 5% of the loss to taxpayers that they caused - after deliberately and systematically engaging in a "19 year scheme".
http://nasawatch.com/archives/2019/04/nasa-needs-a-de.html

The testing lab supervisor, Dennis Balius, got three years of jail time for his role. NASA uncovers a 19-year fraud that caused failed missions
https://bigthink.com/technology-innovation/nasa-uncovers-decades-long-
fraud-that-caused-failed-missions

The wheels of justice turn very slowly. Trump will probably be dead before he is crushed by the wheels.

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 11:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Robert Mueller Told AG William Barr His Depiction Of Report Wasn't Accurate

Impeach Barr - keep going until all the lying scumbags are gone.

I still don't get what this Orange fugger holds over so many people. Whatever it is, it makes them willing to ruin their reputations for him. By the time the dust settles and they've been charged for their crimes, I doubt a single one will be left untarnished.

Agreed. Barr lied on Trumps behalf several times under oath. Each time he did so is a felony. Having him remain Attorney General puts all the other 12-19 investigations involving Trump in jeopardy.

Add to that the Trump administration is stonewalling everything. Trumps administration needs to be hit with a barrage of subpoenas. Congress calling those involved in the Russian investigation to testify, both witnesses, Mueller and his team, is starting the impeachment process without declaring so.

tick tock

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:23 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Impeach EVERYONE!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Indeed.

There are plenty of crticisms to make about Trump - as well as most Democrats and most Republicans - but no point in discussing any of that with people who're deranged.

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:56 PM

Shoo sig, comrade troll

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Friday, May 3, 2019 12:10 AM

You see! You can learn something, good for you Jack!

SGG

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Impeach EVERYONE!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 3, 2019 12:12 AM

You mean to say: "Very fine people, on both sides"

The Scumbag King has taught you well.

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Impeach EVERYONE!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Indeed.

There are plenty of crticisms to make about Trump - as well as most Democrats and most Republicans - but no point in discussing any of that with people who're deranged.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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gs
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Friday, May 3, 2019 1:49 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Are you a very fine person "S""G""G"?

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Friday, May 3, 2019 2:20 AM

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You see! You can learn something, good for you Jack!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Impeach EVERYONE!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The funniest thing about this whole exchange is that I'm the guy that's been saying the government needs an enema since the first day I posted in the RWED.

I've learned nothing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 3, 2019 7:25 AM

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

OK, so after two years of hard work and each party trying their best to make the other party look as bad as possible, it’s time to get back to business. The Mueller Report strongly stated that there was No Collusion with Russia (of course) and, in fact, they were rebuffed at every turn in attempts to gain access. But now Republicans and Democrats must come together for the good of the American people. No more costly & time consuming investigations. Lets do Immigration (Border), Infrastructure, much lower drug prices & much more - and do it now!
8:45 PM - 2 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1124158007921848320

Donald J. Trump Retweeted @ByronYork

I understand the talk about Mueller not deciding on Trump obstruction. But he did decide, didn't he? If you're investigated for something, and you learn that the prosecutor is closing down without taking any action, you're happy, right?
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1123665651451813888

Trump says he leaned on God to survive Mueller probe:

“People say, ‘How do you get through that whole stuff? How do you go through those witch hunts and everything else?’” Trump said at the White House during a National Day of Prayer service. He looked over to Vice President Mike Pence and shrugged. “We just do it, right?” the president continued. “And we think about God.”
www.politico.com/story/2019/05/02/trump-god-mueller-probe-1298656

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Friday, May 3, 2019 11:52 AM

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Mueller asked (twice) that Barr correct his inaccurate summary of Mueller’s careful report. It’s a letter that Wired’s Garrett Graff, who wrote a book about Mueller, described thusly: “I’ve read just about every word Bob Mueller has ever said publicly or published. He’s written precisely one letter like the angry one he sent to Barr: It excoriated Scotland for letting the Pan Am 103 bomber out of prison.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/robert-mueller-william-bar
r-rift-mueller-must-speak.html

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Friday, May 3, 2019 9:44 PM

tick tock

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Saturday, May 4, 2019 10:25 AM

REAVERFAN

Mueller report: Trump dismisses 'Russian hoax' in call with Putin

The report concluded that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was ‘sweeping and systematic’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/03/trump-putin-call-muell
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Sunday, May 5, 2019 4:18 AM

I'm a Mushroom Cloud Laying Motherfucker!

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Are you a very fine person "S""G""G"?

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Sunday, May 5, 2019 4:21 AM

Ain't it the truth!

SGG

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Quote:
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You see! You can learn something, good for you Jack!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Impeach EVERYONE!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The funniest thing about this whole exchange is that I'm the guy that's been saying the government needs an enema since the first day I posted in the RWED.

I've learned nothing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 5, 2019 11:42 AM

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Mueller report: Trump dismisses 'Russian hoax' in call with Putin

The report concluded that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was ‘sweeping and systematic’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/03/trump-putin-call-muell
er-report

Mueller and House Judiciary Committee tentatively agree on May 15 for his testimony on Russia investigation, House Democrat says

tick tock

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