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Flynn's broke, Democrats go on lying, and the FBI coup plotters get away with everything. Some justice.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Seditious cowards.

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Trump DOJ Grossly Distorted Facts In Call To Drop Flynn Case

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Now, there's a person who's not about to be confused by the facts.

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Now, there's a person who's not about to be confused by the facts.

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The facts...President Donald Trump Says He Fired Flynn For Lying To Mike Pence And The FBI

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You FUCKING SEDITIOUS COWARDS who are pushing the narrative that is some how Trump or Barr's fault can all go FUCK THE HELL OFF! You did this and you got your asses CAUGHT because that fucking cult Hillary LOST!!

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You FUCKING SEDITIOUS COWARDS who are pushing the narrative that is some how Trump or Barr's fault can all go FUCK THE HELL OFF! You did this and you got your asses CAUGHT because that fucking cult Hillary LOST!!

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So Flynn lied about lying about his Russian connections... which he later admitted he lied about. Mmm'ok.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not saying anything about anybody's guilt.

Just going to say that it's fairly easy to get false confessions out of people. Especially old people who know that they're going to rot in prison the rest of their lives if they get thrown under the bus.


Let's just say that our justice system isn't necessarily designed with the truth being the top priority.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not saying anything about anybody's guilt.

Just going to say that it's fairly easy to get false confessions out of people. Especially old people who know that they're going to rot in prison the rest of their lives if they get thrown under the bus.

Let's just say that our justice system isn't necessarily designed with the truth being the top priority.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Not saying anything about anybody's guilt.

Just going to say that it's fairly easy to get false confessions out of people. Especially old people who know that they're going to rot in prison the rest of their lives if they get thrown under the bus.

Let's just say that our justice system isn't necessarily designed with the truth being the top priority.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Flynn was a General. I'm sure he was not addle-brained enough to falsely confess to crimes and to get his lawyers' agreement to falsifying his guilt:

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Like I said, I'm not saying anything about anybody's guilt here.

I'm not going to take a partisan stance and pretend I actually know what went on either way.

The world isn't black or white, and there's many shades of grey. Given that fact, it's very easy to obfuscate things to the point that you can get your desired outcome without anyone on the outside looking in being any the wiser.



The only thing I know for sure is that our Legacy Media has been emboldened over these last 3-4 years in pushing their agendas constantly and without any reservations. Whether or not they actually believe it's because they're "Morally Superior" to the opposition makes no matter when you've got a large portion of the country backing them and believing that they are on the right side of history.


We're all in trouble if we don't go back to a time where Journalism was more objective. This is a very dark path they're leading us down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You FUCKING SEDITIOUS COWARDS who are pushing the narrative that is some how Trump or Barr's fault can all go FUCK THE HELL OFF! You did this and you got your asses CAUGHT because that fucking cult Hillary LOST!!

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So Flynn lied about lying about his Russian connections... which he later admitted he lied about. Mmm'ok.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like I said, I'm not saying anything about anybody's guilt here.

I'm not going to take a partisan stance and pretend I actually know what went on either way.

The world isn't black or white, and there's many shades of grey. Given that fact, it's very easy to obfuscate things to the point that you can get your desired outcome without anyone on the outside looking in being any the wiser.



The only thing I know for sure is that our Legacy Media has been emboldened over these last 3-4 years in pushing their agendas constantly and without any reservations. Whether or not they actually believe it's because they're "Morally Superior" to the opposition makes no matter when you've got a large portion of the country backing them and believing that they are on the right side of history.


We're all in trouble if we don't go back to a time where Journalism was more objective. This is a very dark path they're leading us down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Flynn said he was guilty. Both of his lawyers said he was guilty. That is black and white. After the fact, Trump told the Attorney General not to prosecute because it would be bad for Trump's reelection. That is deep shades of gray. To blame Journalism for Flynn's confession and his lawyers' capitulation is pitch black. The journalists didn't sign Flynn's confession and have no say so in the process of drafting that confession.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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You FUCKING SEDITIOUS COWARDS who are pushing the narrative that is some how Trump or Barr's fault can all go FUCK THE HELL OFF! You did this and you got your asses CAUGHT because that fucking cult Hillary LOST!!

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So Flynn lied about lying about his Russian connections... which he later admitted he lied about. Mmm'ok.

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He didn’t lie. Even Stzrok said so.

Try again. Traitor

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Do you really want me to start digging up cases were not guilty people pleaded guilty?

Use your brain and stop letting your religion do all of your thinking for you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You FUCKING SEDITIOUS COWARDS who are pushing the narrative that is some how Trump or Barr's fault can all go FUCK THE HELL OFF! You did this and you got your asses CAUGHT because that fucking cult Hillary LOST!!

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So Flynn lied about lying about his Russian connections... which he later admitted he lied about. Mmm'ok.

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He didn’t lie. Even Stzrok said so.

Try again. Traitor

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Flynn didn't lie about his Russian connections because he had none.

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He had some conversations with the Russian ambassador, which (as incoming National Security Advisor) was not only his right, but his duty.

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When the FBI questioned him, they not only did not inform he that he was the subject of an investigation, they also did not allow him to see the transcript that they already had on hand. (A transcript, btw, which shows nothing improper was discussed, and also reveals that he was ALREADY being surveilled.)

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So they questioned him about something that he didn't remember perfectly, and he misspoke*.

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He was pressured into pleading guilty because the FBI was financially pressuring his whole family, and because that's what his "defense team" told him to do. Like many innocent people faced with overwhelming and unjust prosecution, he pled out. Because the state is more powerful than most individuals, and can grind you into dust if it wants to.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:*Have you ever been deposed about something that happened at some point in the past? I have. Being closely questioned about details that you didn't notice at the time, or have since forgotten? Unless you have an eidetic memory ... trust me, I don't ... it's amazing how much you can forget!

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Originally posted by AURaptor: Flynn case dropped!!! Democrats revealed as LIARS!!!

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Once again rappy starts a thread that shows how credulous and gullible he is. Sad, very sad.

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So Flynn lied about lying about his Russian connections... which he later admitted he lied about. Mmm'ok.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

There was no crime.

They already had Flynn's call to the Russians , and it was harmless. There was absolutely no 'there' there.

Flynn probably even KNEW they had recorded his phone call, thus felt no reason to be concerned over the ' harmless chat ' which was instead a illegal interview.

Flynn's " lie " was at most a meaningless process crime which even Comey wasn't sure was a lie either, and it certainly wasn't relevant to any crime because there WAS none.

This entire scam was for one thing only - political optics.

Obama knew and that's not even up for debate either.

As we suspected, 3 1/2 years ago, this was NOTHING but a huge set up.

10x bigger than Watergate.

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No idea why the war between the North and South were brought into this discussion, as we're not talking about the right to own slaves vs the right to see all men created equal.

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I wasn't privy to Flynn's contacts, but the FBI certainly was. They have the transcripts, after all. And if there was anything damning in Flynn's conversations with Ambassador Kislyak, then the FBI wouldn't have had to make stuff up.

Yanno, I'll bet you dollars to donuts you don't even know what Flynn pled guilty to, or the financial pressure that the FBI put on Flynn's family, or anything about those handwritten notes that torpedoed the FIB's case, or even the lie that got this whole investigation going to begin with (Halpern).

So rather than argue with a liar, I'll just say that someone must be paying you to hold the DNC line.

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What the FBI and the FISA court did was undeniably wrong. It's made far worse by the fact that Obama KNEW this was going on, so much so he was all but DIRECTING it.


There's the real crime here. Personal and political animus drove individuals to act in the most unethicial and outright ILLEGAL way, under a false pretense of a collusion story which had zero merit.

The Flynn case was all about political optics and the overt attempt to undo an election with the improper abuse of federal LE powers and a secret FISA court. If that doesn't scare the fuck out of you, then you're dead inside.

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It's also rare that an FBI agent contacts anyone to keep a case open with zero evidence, interviews the incoming NSA, finds no lies, yet the person is still charged with lying.

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The idea: real Trump voters I know living in Texas believe the Confederates were the good guys in the Civil War, that the Abolitionists and Emancipationists were the bad guys who wrongfully stepped on the rights of Confederates States to own slaves, and that eventually the Southern States would have ended slavery when it was best for the slaves. These Trump voters I know have rewritten history to blame Washington D.C. for starting the Civil War. Where I live, these Neo-Confederates have succeeded in convincing themselves that their rewritten, fake history of Texas is the true and real history which libtards don't want you to know. The rewrite by Trump lovers of the Flynn case history is also fake.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Blissful ignorance. Yep, ignorant sums it up when describing rappy.

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1. I can't speak to these neo-confederates. I also live in a ' confederate ' state but see things differently than they do. Very little about that time period or the outcome of the * 'War between the States ' is relevant to the 21st century issues I see that matter most on the political landscape.

2. Your arbitrary assigning of motives for those who are neo-Confederates and Trump supporters is nonsensical. The issue of slavery itself was far more complex than ' slavery bad / freedom good. The Founders of this country didn't invent the institution of slavery, it pre-existed in the colonies before they were even born. Short version of all this, it's far easier for us to look back and say what's right vs wrong than those who were living in it. ( From a practical side, who would society work when on Tuesday most black people were slaves, but on Wednesday, they were free and equal members of society ? )

I'm getting sidetracked, as are you.

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Your tiny fraction of bumpkins are gonna vote, almost certainly, in each and every election. Always have too. Might be for some David Duke type of loser, might be for someone else. Just because they happen to choose Trump over Hillary or Biden doesn't make the rest of us like them.

Not even close.

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SECOND: When I dig to find the real person behind the mask a Trump lover wears, I find corruption.

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SECOND: When I dig to find the real person behind the mask a Trump lover wears, I find corruption.

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Bullshit. You and I both know this isn't true.

Stop lying, you worthless waste of air.

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Bullshit. You and I both know this isn't true.

Stop lying, you worthless waste of air.

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Ha. Ha. Ha. People who are highly defective are the ones claiming Democrats are liars about Flynn. The same people are defending Trump and Flynn. In Texas, Trump lovers are extraordinarily defective people and there is no scientific or psychological data pointing to those creatures being any better when they inhabit either the East Coast or the West Coast or the Midwest. (Nebraska is the exception. The state capital is Lincoln. They will feel a deep need to defend any Republican President because of Lincoln.)

“The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed—about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn,” Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic—not just institutional norms—but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk.” Obama went on to say that “as we’ve seen in other places” once governments start going down that route, “it can accelerate pretty quickly.”

The leaked conversation suggests Obama is getting ready to take a starring role in the presidential campaign which he says “is so important” because it won’t just be about beating Trump or the Republicans. “What we’re fighting against is these long-term trends in which being selfish, being tribal, being divided, and seeing others as an enemy—that has become a stronger impulse” not just in the United States but also around the world. “It’s part of the reason why the response to this global crisis has been so anemic and spotty,” Obama said. “It has been an absolute chaotic disaster when that mindset—of ‘what’s in it for me’ and ‘to heck with everybody else’—when that mindset is operationalized in our government.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/obama-warns-rule-of-law-ri
sk-michael-flynn-case.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG - assuming you have some sort of point to make, just not sure what it is.


Wanna try again?

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