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Who Is Running In 2020?

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 8:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard Nate Silver says Bernie sweeps Super Tuesday except for Klobuchar in MN.

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South Carolina has an open primary system where members of any party can participate in the Democratic primary and some are urging conservatives to take part in the vote.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And therein lies the mystery of Biden's 'surge'. Thanks to SECOND for posting something relevant and factual.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Since very few democratic primaries are closed, https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2020-presidential-primary-s
chedule-calendar
/ Biden may have more 'surges' in other states.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Has DNC announced Hilliary as winner yet?

HA HA! Too (ouch) funny!

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah... Biden is their guy. There's no way they're going to let Bernie get the nomination, even though Antifa will be rioting in the streets and burning trashcans when he loses.

Warren is out.

I think it's hilarious that there's a better chance that nobody wins.

How many people are going to "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" when the Super Delegates make their non-Biden pick?

Do Right, Be Right. :)


I don't want to go back and edit an old post after other people have posted...

But I meant their "non-Bernie" pick.

Too many B's on the B-Team.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 3:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US presidential race
I guess all those multi-billionaires now see a non-Buttigieg pathway to a Sanders defeat, and decided to stop throwing good money after bad. Oh well. Easy come - easy go.

I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.

Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 4:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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]Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, who do you think has a chance? Is it still Hilliary? Or NOTA?

I've heard of the Heart Attack Race. Which of the Dems is most likely to have a Cardiac Arrest or Stroke first? Whether or not Hiliary is the Veep.


Also, are any of these likely to be the first elected woman Veep?
For each of the remaining candidates, who is the most likely woman in America that they might choose as their running mate?

Oh, you know, there's a lot of time between now and then. All I have to go on is current data. But Buttigieg and Klobuchar seem destined to not make it. I have a personal sense of why Klobuchar is still running (she believes in her accomplishments too much to quit). I believe 'Mayor Pete' is still running as a spoiler. But neither is going to go anywhere towards the WH.

But there could be a brokered convention coming up with over 500 superdelegates involved, and if that happens afaik all hell breaks loose on the 'democratic' side.

That's as far as I'll suppose.

OK.

A slightly different question. I don't need a prediction, I'm just not aware of who's who of the Lefties.

Who would you say might be in the top ten of prominent females who might be considered as running mate, not including any who have been running for President?

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Monday, March 2, 2020 5:01 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's a good article written on it that doesn't take one extreme side or the other.

It absolutely does exist and it absolutely is a problem. But it's pretty much probably not a huge Jewish conspiracy, the likes of some old PirateNews thread title.

The last paragraph was great:

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Cultural Marxism was no conspiracy, but it is also no mere right-wing “phantasmagoria.” It was and remains a coherent intellectual program, a constellation of dangerous ideas. Aspects of these ideas, to their credit, brought the West’s dirty laundry into the limelight and inaugurated a period of necessary housecleaning that was, indeed, overdue. But their obsessive focus on our societal dirt—real and perceived “injustice,” “oppression,” “privilege,” “marginalization” and the like—quickly became a pathological compulsion. We started to see dirt everywhere. We cleansed and continue to cleanse ourselves tirelessly but are never satisfied, always eager to uncover more dirty deeds and historical sins and stage more ritualized purges. We end up throwing out the baby with the bathwater. And all our hard-won collective attainments and achievements, all that is great and good and glorious in our midst, gets swept up, spat on and discarded with the rest of the trash.

Just to bump this for later.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Monday, March 2, 2020 5:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US presidential race

KIKI: I guess all those multi-billionaires now see a non-Buttigieg pathway to a Sanders defeat, and decided to stop throwing good money after bad. Oh well. Easy come - easy go.

JSF:I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.
Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and tha he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal indentity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

The analysis that I heard, which is somewhat similar to KIKI's, is that the DNC is on a "stopBernie" drive, that they see the candidates as "Bernie" and "everybody else", and that if they don't stop dividing the "everybody else" vote Bernie may get a majority of delegates which will force the DNC to come out with the superdelegates which will create another mess in the party. I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win againt Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough votes away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are catching fire. I guess this is where the "brokered convention" and shoehorning in an establishment candidate (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.

But then, a more cynical interpretation is that Bernie is getting just as far as the press and the M$M is letting him, that he really doesn't represent a threat to the establishment parties because they know he'll fold like a cheap suit at the convention and endorse whoever the DNC says to.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 5:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US presidential race

KIKI: I guess all those multi-billionaires now see a non-Buttigieg pathway to a Sanders defeat, and decided to stop throwing good money after bad. Oh well. Easy come - easy go.

JSF:I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.
Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and tha he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal indentity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

The analysis that I heard, which is somewhat similar to KIKI's, is that the DNC is on a "stopBernie" drive, that they see the candidates as "Bernie" and "everybody else", and that if they don't stop dividing the "everybody else" vote Bernie may get a majority of delegates which will force the DNC to come out with the superdelegates which will create another mess in the party.


Hahahahahaha. I suspect you are right. But to see it written that plainly, while some are advocating "democracy" in primary voting, is just hilarious. Taking away options and leaving only those who many find despicable may force more to vote for Bernie, not less. Fewer options seems the mantra of anti-democracy DNC.
I wonder if Tulsi had held out until many of these clowns had dropped out, she might have been the fall-back option for many who were not voting for Bernie. My biggest fear is that Tulsi could give Trump a run for his money - she would at least mop the floor with him during debates.
This is just too funny. You peeps who are writing the script for the DNC are getting better. Comical, if not believable.
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I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win againt Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough votes away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are catching fire. I guess this is where the "brokered convention" and shoehorning in an establishment candidate (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.

Is "shoehorn" the new code word for cankles? Has Hilliary been announced as the candidate yet? Which hotel in Milwaukee did DNC reserve for Hilliary?

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Monday, March 2, 2020 7:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Klobuchar dropped out?

Leaving MN for Bernie to win.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 10:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Not only dropped out but "Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar endorse Joe Biden for president".

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/03/02/Pete-Buttigieg-Amy-Klobucha
r-endorse-Joe-Biden-for-president/1281583174652
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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 3:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and that he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal identity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

Yeah, that always puzzled me about him. I've posted more than once there was no 'there' there - he was a synthetic assemblage of memorized talking points.

But I think I may have figured out at least a little that there was a connection between the CIA and all the multi-billionaire deep pockets that funded him.

So, let me back up a bit. There are roughly 310 declared democratic candidates for president. https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_registered_2020_presidential_candidate
s
So how does a not very successful mayor from a small city get the backing of so many multi-billionaires? Does he cold-call them with a winning smile and outstretched hand like a Fuller brush salesman? In that case anyone could do that - even JO. (HIYA JO! !!) Et voilà!!! Manna from heaven! ... Nah, I don't think so ... So, while I don't have the details of how the CIA connected Buttigieg with those donor$$$, I can't imagine it happened any other way except by design.
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I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win against Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough votes away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are catching fire. I guess this is where the "brokered convention" and shoehorning in an establishment candidate (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.
Well ... almost no democratic primaries are closed - in other words, anyone from any party can vote. As SECOND pointed out, it's entirely possible that Biden's surge was due to republicans. I can imagine him surging in other states as well, for the very same reason. Once that mechanism becomes obvious, why split the anti-Sanders vote with all those extraneous choices?

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 8:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well ... almost no democratic primaries are closed - in other words, anyone from any party can vote. As SECOND pointed out, it's entirely possible that Biden's surge was due to republicans. I can imagine him surging in other states as well, for the very same reason. Once that mechanism becomes obvious, why split the anti-Sanders vote with all those extraneous choices?



I don't think that's exactly what it means...

I think it's a state by state basis how "Open" is handled.

https://www.openprimaries.org/states_indiana

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Affiliation with a party is not required to vote in primaries. However, voters can only choose the primary ballot of the party who recieved a majority of their votes in the previous general election, and voter records are kept as public information.


I'm not a party line voter, but seeing as how there's no way I'm going to remember everybody I voted for, I'm actually not sure how they would handle me if I went to vote in the Primary (I've never voted in one before).

It's quite possible that even if I wanted to vote GOP in the primary they wouldn't allow me to based on my 2016 choices.



I'm also on the fence with the knowledge that "voter records are kept as public information". On one hand, that is supposed to be private information. On the other hand, between that and requiring a Driver's License/State ID, you never hear about voter fraud in Indiana.


Also, OpenPrimaries.org needs an editor. They spell about as good as T does.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 9:44 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US presidential race

KIKI: I guess all those multi-billionaires now see a non-Buttigieg pathway to a Sanders defeat, and decided to stop throwing good money after bad. Oh well. Easy come - easy go.

JSF:I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.
Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and tha he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal indentity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

The analysis that I heard, which is somewhat similar to KIKI's, is that the DNC is on a "stopBernie" drive, that they see the candidates as "Bernie" and "everybody else", and that if they don't stop dividing the "everybody else" vote Bernie may get a majority of delegates which will force the DNC to come out with the superdelegates which will create another mess in the party. I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win againt Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough votes away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are catching fire. I guess this is where the "brokered convention" and shoehorning in an establishment candidate (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.

But then, a more cynical interpretation is that Bernie is getting just as far as the press and the M$M is letting him, that he really doesn't represent a threat to the establishment parties because they know he'll fold like a cheap suit at the convention and endorse whoever the DNC says to.




The stupid sh*t you post... just...wow. "I heard you get emails from Russia telling you to say..."

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 1:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It seems as if the "anybody but Bernie" is Biden. Jimminy crimminy. I can't imagine Biden winning in a fair fight against Bernie in the primaries, OR against Trump in the general. It looks like the DNC is shooting itself in the head, again.

Still, if they coalesce the "anybody but Bernie" vote they still might get a brokered convention, and put someone else in who is little more credible than Biden. I can't imagine who, tho. Who would the DNC pick who is acceptable to transnational interests and the deep state, and who has a prayer of winning the general election. Hillary? Er ... A previous candudate? A governor? A Senator or high-ranking Representative?



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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 2:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US presidential race

KIKI: I guess all those multi-billionaires now see a non-Buttigieg pathway to a Sanders defeat, and decided to stop throwing good money after bad. Oh well. Easy come - easy go.

JSF:I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.
Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and tha he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal indentity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

The analysis that I heard, which is somewhat similar to KIKI's, is that the DNC is on a "stopBernie" drive, that they see the candidates as "Bernie" and "everybody else", and that if they don't stop dividing the "everybody else" vote Bernie may get a majority of delegates which will force the DNC to come out with the superdelegates which will create another mess in the party. I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win againt Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough votes away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are catching fire. I guess this is where the "brokered convention" and shoehorning in an establishment candidate (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.

But then, a more cynical interpretation is that Bernie is getting just as far as the press and the M$M is letting him, that he really doesn't represent a threat to the establishment parties because they know he'll fold like a cheap suit at the convention and endorse whoever the DNC says to.




The stupid sh*t you post... just...wow. "I heard you get emails from Russia telling you to say..."


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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 8:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Obama cleared the path to shoehorn in Michelle.

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 8:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Obama cleared the path to shoehorn in Moochelle Obama at the convention.


Klobuchar had a campaign quip about never losing an election in MN. If her internal polling showed she was about to lose MN primary to Bernie, she may have quit in order to reserve her quip for the future.


So if Creepy Joe comes thru on his "Super Thursday" then his election can usher in new relevance for the term "puppetmasters"


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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So far Bernie has 58 pledged delegates, Biden has 54, Mayor Pete has 25, Warren has eight and Klobuchar has seven. Texas is still too close to call.

I'm not sure if the candidates can do this, but both Mayor Pete and Klobuchar have said that Biden should be supported, so maybe they can release their candidates to Biden?

Wouldn't it be funny if, in their effort to concoct a brokered convention the DNC actually winds up with Biden getting an unexpected majority? What then?? They'll have to run a geriatric candidate who can't keep the days of the week straight.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:14 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wouldn't it be funny if, in their effort to concoct a brokered convention the DNC actually winds up with Biden getting an unexpected majority? What then?? They'll have to run a geriatric candidate who can't keep the days of the week straight

Maybe COVID-19 will take him out on the campaign trail.

I've been wondering about that. How will anybody conduct a campaign if it becomes epidemic?

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:32 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIGNYM:
Wouldn't it be funny if, in their effort to concoct a brokered convention the DNC actually winds up with Biden getting an unexpected majority? What then?? They'll have to run a geriatric candidate who can't keep the days of the week straight

KIKI: Maybe COVID-19 will take him out on the campaign trail.
I've been wondering about that. How will anybody conduct a campaign if it becomes epidemic?

That's a good question! Not only should people be reluctant to attend townhall meetings or mass rallies, how will the candidates themselves survive the flesh-pressing, baby-kissing meet-and-greets of the campiagn trail?

HILLARY has already set herself up with a (supposedly) fireside-chat-styled podcast. Hmm... an indication of the future? Something wicked this way comes?

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Who do you think Warren is going to endorse?

Pretty much everybody knows she's a liar and a whore and she LOVES money, but if she were to stay in the race by the end of the day today I think even her most ardent supporters are going to finally get the hint.


I can't say that I'm getting tired of being right all the time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:03 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US go-cart race

KIKI: I love Vladimir Putin sooooo much!

JSF:I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.
Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and tha he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal indentity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

The analysis that I heard, which is somewhat similar to KKK's, is that the DNC is on a "stopBernie" drive, that they see the candidates as "Bernie" and "everybody else", and that if they don't stop dividing the "everybody else" vote Bernie may get a majority of delegates which will force the DNC to come out with the superdelegates which will create another mess in the party. I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win againt Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough fish away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are hatching eggs. I guess this is where the "snooker convention" and shoewhoring in an establishment candy date (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.

But then, a more cynical interpretation is that Bernie is getting just as far as the press and the M&Ms is letting him, that he really doesn't represent a threat to the establishment parties because they know he'll fold like a cheap suit at the convention and endorse whoever the DNC says to.




Kiki and Siggy's post are the most enlightening eva..."




KIKI - you're such a goof ball. Quoting someone's post for posterity as proof of an alleged slander - is foolish. You're not taking into account the obvious: you or anyone could be changing the quoted language to say whatever they want it to. You repeat the same trivial rubbish over and over expecting it to mean more each time. I'm guessing data entry was your forte.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the US go-cart race

KIKI: I love Vladimir Putin sooooo much!

JSF:I head reports that he dropped out after Obama called him and told him to get out.
Apparently, now the youngest male running for President is Trump.

I always thought that Mayo Pete was running just because someone told him to, and tha he dropped out because someone told him to, and that he was just a tool of the CIA/deep state. His campaign seemed to have no underpinning motivation (either personal or political). It was as if someone said ... well, he's Midwestern, male, and white so we can wrap up the "deplorables" identity vote, but he's gay so we get the liberal indentity vote, and if we feed him talking points and funnel funding thru Wall Street he might go far enuf.

The analysis that I heard, which is somewhat similar to KKK's, is that the DNC is on a "stopBernie" drive, that they see the candidates as "Bernie" and "everybody else", and that if they don't stop dividing the "everybody else" vote Bernie may get a majority of delegates which will force the DNC to come out with the superdelegates which will create another mess in the party. I understand their dilemma - Bernie will not win againt Trump (unless the M$M can craft yet another hoax against Trump). What I can't quite figure out is WHO they think can take enough fish away from Bernie? None of the rest of the candidates are hatching eggs. I guess this is where the "snooker convention" and shoewhoring in an establishment candy date (someone who isn't even running right now) might come in.

But then, a more cynical interpretation is that Bernie is getting just as far as the press and the M&Ms is letting him, that he really doesn't represent a threat to the establishment parties because they know he'll fold like a cheap suit at the convention and endorse whoever the DNC says to.




Kiki and Siggy's post are the most enlightening eva..."




KIKI - you're such a goof ball. Quoting someone's post for posterity as proof of an alleged slander - is foolish. You're not taking into account the obvious: you or anyone could be changing the quoted language to say whatever they want it to. You repeat the same trivial rubbish over and over expecting it to mean more each time. I'm guessing data entry was your forte.





Yup. Once in a blue moon the Captain and I agree on something. Not only can you change what's in the quote, but whoever you're quoting could just change the post after the fact and lie about it.

Both Second and T have changed posts after I've quoted them, and then they claimed that what I quoted is not what they've said.

It's the pitfalls of having a dated website. Anywhere else I post these days have timestamps for the original posts and the edits, or at least mark that the post was edited and shows the last time/date of the final edit to the post.

If I wanted to spend a few days here, I could go back through every single post I've ever made on this site, edit the posts, and just reply with nothing and everything I've ever written would be gone.


I suggest in the future, if you want to maintain "proof" that somebody said something, archive it at the wayback machine or just Google for other archive sites. I've never tried that on FFF.NET before, but I think it should suit your purposes just fine.

But given the nature and age of this site, I don't think anything you've ever quoted anybody saying here using the site's quote feature would be admissible.


DISCLAIMER: Not that I'm supporting any legal action by anyone here against anyone here. I'm 100% against anybody doing that.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


AS USUAL, CC has nothing ON TOPIC to contribute.

It's hard to believe you ever worked anywhere doing anything, CC, especially where you might have to cotribute ideas, because you lack focus and you have no ideas.

So, any thoughts on the Democratic primaries themselves? Aside from being butt-hurt that your midwestern gay-boy acted like a droid, dropped out, and then threw his support to Biden like the good little esablishment creation that he is ?

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who do you think Warren is going to endorse?

Pretty much everybody knows she's a liar and a whore and she LOVES money, but if she were to stay in the race by the end of the day today I think even her most ardent supporters are going to finally get the hint.


I can't say that I'm getting tired of being right all the time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Now that it's turned into a two-person race (instead of the GOP free-for-all that got Trump elected) my guess is that it would have to be Biden. I can't imagine Warren supporting Bernie; she WAS a Republican in the past, and all of her identitarian politics was just virtue-signalling. And I can't imagine her being so spiteful as to ruin her career and endorse Bernie.

So far, the only candidate who's been steadfast in her stance is Tulsi. Too bad the M$M and the DNC (and Hillary) buried her.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I think you're probably right. If anything, Biden's surge is at least giving the illusion that the identity politics and far left Socialism isn't the larger part of the Democratic Party... at least not yet.

An opportunist all the way, Chief Speaking Bull will do what is best for her, just as she has always done.



I know that Trump is a happy camper. The only one left he was worried about at all was Booty Judge.




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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

KIKI - you're such a goof ball. Quoting someone's post for posterity as proof of an alleged slander - is foolish. You're not taking into account the obvious: you or anyone could be changing the quoted language to say whatever they want it to. You repeat the same trivial rubbish over and over expecting it to mean more each time. I'm guessing data entry was your forte.
Sworn testimony counts, hon. I can swear it's intact and that I didn't change a single thing. All I'm doing by quoting you is keeping an accurate record for my own use.

But THANKS for resetting the clock! I've been really busy, so I'm glad you've been keeping it alive for me.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'd be curious if there were turnout figures. If turnout was exceptionally high, or even greater than the number of registered democratic voters, then Biden's wins could be attributed in part to republicans.

But Biden. Jeeze.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:26 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


2020 Democratic primary is a Biden-Sanders race after Bloomberg drops out

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 3:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I'd be curious if there were turnout figures. If turnout was exceptionally high, or even greater than the number of registered democratic voters, then Biden's wins could be attributed in part to republicans.

But Biden. Jeeze.



I don't know what they usually are, but the numbers on here.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 4:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/democratic_vot
e_count.html
.

Raw numbers here but not democratic turnout. At some point I may possibly dig out registered democrat numbers in each state and calculate % democratic turnout, but probably not.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


total votes for each candidate
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/democratic_vot
e_count.html
.

states that record registered voter numbers by party
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/c
ommentary_by_rhodes_cook/registering_by_party_where_the_democrats_and_republicans_are_ahead


states with open primaries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primaries_in_the_United_States

On Super Tuesday, states with open primaries that also record registered voters by party had these democratic turnouts in the democratic primary:
AR 299% registered democratic turnout
CO 74%
MA 91%
NC 49%
OK 39%.

By comparison, on Super Tuesday, states with closed primaries that also record registered voters by party had these democratic turnouts in the democratic primary:
CA 35% registered democratic turnout
ME 61%
UT 109%.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I burst LOL when I heard an observation.

Creepy Joe won overwhelmingly in some states where he has not visited in 2020.

In states where he actually appeared and spoke, those voters who actually witnessed him unedited did not vote for him.



Unrelated: last night all networks were on the election, no shows were broadcast.

I have not paid attention, does anybody know how delegates are allotted? What is the formula for determining how many delegates each state gets? I saw some states where Joe got 1/3 the votes, so he was awarded 1/6 of the delegates - that must be where superdelegates come in.

Nice to see that Doomberg got some delegates, and Tulsi got at least 1.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I burst LOL when I heard an observation.

Creepy Joe won overwhelmingly in some states where he has not visited in 2020.

In states where he actually appeared and spoke, those voters who actually witnessed him unedited did not vote for him.

Don't know if it's true, but I can imagine it is. THAT'S FUNNY!!

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I copied this from a Dow thread because I thought it should fit here also.

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Dow closes nearly 1,200 points higher as Biden Super Tuesday victories boost health care stocks

T


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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I burst LOL when I heard an observation.

Creepy Joe won overwhelmingly in some states where he has not visited in 2020.

In states where he actually appeared and spoke, those voters who actually witnessed him unedited did not vote for him.

Don't know if it's true, but I can imagine it is. THAT'S FUNNY!!

He won by big margins in AR, MN, and others, while never visiting them.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 2:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, of course ...

Quote:

DNC Scrambles To Change Debate Threshold After Gabbard Qualifies

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dnc-scrambles-to-change-debate-threshold-after-gabbard-qualifies-cbe94e48ab91

So in addition to blanking her out of the media (going so far as to label Warren "the last female left in the race") and being called a Russian asset, Tulsi is edited from the debates.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 1:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Warren, Once a Front-Runner, Drops Out of Presidential Race

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 2:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


A day later than I expected.



"Declines to make endorsement for now", I see...

An opportunist to the wretched core, this should come as a surprise to NO ONE.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 4:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, of course ...

Quote:

DNC Scrambles To Change Debate Threshold After Gabbard Qualifies

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dnc-scrambles-to-change-debate-threshold-after-gabbard-qualifies-cbe94e48ab91

So in addition to blanking her out of the media (going so far as to label Warren "the last female left in the race") and being called a Russian asset, Tulsi is edited from the debates.

Thanks for the update. The Fake News that I get never mentions her, yet they do yak on about Bernie.


Now that Fauxcahontas is out, is Tulsi the only woman remaining in the field?
I gotta admit, if there is a debate with Tulsi and Trump, I might actually watch a debate. With popcorn, too.


Has Tulsi been in all of the debates so far? I have not heard of her smacking around the doofus group, and I thought kiki had not mentioned her in regards to debates, so I had thought that she was squeezed out.

She might take it easy on Bernie, but I might watch to see her taken down Creepy Joe.

Did she qualify because she got a delegate?

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Gabbard was in the first 2 debates, she didn't qualify for the 3rd, but did make the 4th and 5th, out of 10 so far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debat
es#Sixth_debate_(December_19,_2019
)


Supposedly the criteria for making the next debate was getting (a) delegate(s), which she did, but there's rumor the DNC is changing the criteria to be able to exclude her.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I predict the general election is going to be a Trump/ Biden one. Biden can't win it. But if Trump seriously dings himself with, as Signy calls it, a "heck of a job Brownie!" reputation over SARS-COV-2, he might lose it.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 6:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A day later than I expected.
"Declines to make endorsement for now", I see...
An opportunist to the wretched core, this should come as a surprise to NO ONE.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Negotiations for her endorsement are continuing even as we post ...

Maybe she wants someone to pick up the debt she incurred running her race? Or maybe she wants a Cabinet post? Or both?

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A day later than I expected.
"Declines to make endorsement for now", I see...
An opportunist to the wretched core, this should come as a surprise to NO ONE.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Negotiations for her endorsement are continuing even as we post ...

Maybe she wants someone to pick up the debt she incurred running her race? Or maybe she wants a Cabinet post? Or both?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!





What debt?

She rolled over $10,000,000+ Big Donor money from her Senate races and called it "grassroots" fundraising.

She's still sitting on over $2.2 Million.

https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/P00009621/?cycle=2020&election_
full=false


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Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Gabbard was in the first 2 debates, she didn't qualify for the 3rd, but did make the 4th and 5th, out of 10 so far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debat
es#Sixth_debate_(December_19,_2019
)


Supposedly the criteria for making the next debate was getting (a) delegate(s), which she did, but there's rumor the DNC is changing the criteria to be able to exclude her.

How did she do in 4th and 5th? Did she work on Bernie, or save him for later?

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Saturday, March 7, 2020 1:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Who Is Running In 2020?

Maybe SARS-COV-2. Maybe it affects campaign traveling and flesh-pressing and large gatherings. Maybe it kills one or both candidates. Maybe it halts the actual election.

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Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah.

But just to be safe, Bernie shouldn't let the weirdos he courts up on stage to take his mic this time around.



I'm pretty sure that Biden has Deep State agents that would never let them get close.

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Sunday, March 8, 2020 4:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Gabbard was in the first 2 debates, she didn't qualify for the 3rd, but did make the 4th and 5th, out of 10 so far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debat
es#Sixth_debate_(December_19,_2019
)


Supposedly the criteria for making the next debate was getting (a) delegate(s), which she did, but there's rumor the DNC is changing the criteria to be able to exclude her.

How did she do in 4th and 5th? Did she work on Bernie, or save him for later?

So, is Tulsi out of the next debate? Is Hilliary in? Maybe that is what Hilliary is waiting for, for Tulsi to be removed so she doesn't torpedo Hilliary?

I was thinking that if B/B debate Trump, he could refer to them as "pops" or "old man" equally.

Is Tulsi the only woman remaining in the race?

Remember when NYT endorsed Amy and Fauxcahontas?

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Monday, March 9, 2020 2:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There's no way they're letting Tulsi in any of the debates. She'd destroy Biden or Bernie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is Hilliary getting more delegates today? Has DNC announced she has won the nomination yet?


Are the womenfolk getting out the vote for Tulsi? Tulsi and Hilliary are the last 2 women in the race, right?


So, if there is an operation chaos, it should be voting for Bernie now, right?

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


As I see it, the Biden/ Sanders matchup is instructive to the 2015-2016 democratic nomination process. That Sanders did so well compared to Hillary is more of an indication of Hillary's weakness than Sanders' strength.

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