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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:

Trump looking at the calendar and feeling the need to check another box before it’s too late:

“Things to see and do while most powerful man on planet: Start a War”

Not to mention the major distraction quality. When Pompeo shows up on cnn first thing in the morning for an interview you know this has been in the works and ready to go on Trump’s signal. Interesting to see how the markets react - hold onto your butts if you’re invested.

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There are many different times Trump appears on video warning of Obama starting a war with Iran as a political move to win an election. Wait for it. Those clips are coming to this thread soon.

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Originally posted by THG:

There are many different times Trump appears on video warning of Obama starting a war with Iran as a political move to win an election. Wait for it. Those clips are coming to this thread soon.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You sound like you're really scared, buddy.

You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.

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Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expuls
ion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp

Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you?

It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You sound like you're really scared, buddy.

You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.

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Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expuls
ion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp

Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you?

It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It sucks anytime people are going to LOSE their lives over anything that powerful people do.

There is zero different going on here than what we've been doing in the middle east since the 50's.

There's not going to be any war. Or at least, any major conflict. It will just be more of the same bullshit pseudo-wars we've been living with since GWB was president. Iran isn't stupid... unless you believe that all of the people in power there are true believers in the diseased Muslim ideology and that they're all suicidal.


Seriously man... For your own good, I suggest you find a hobby or two to take your mind off of things like this that are completely out of your control. If the worst case happens and this is the end of the world than at least you weren't wigged out in your last days and you can go doing something that you enjoy.



In the mean time, wag the dog or not, this certainly seems to have swept the sham impeachment under the rug, hasn't it?

Pelosi is breathing a sigh of relief right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'm not one of the 4 in 10. I don't approve of it.

I just don't care. It's exactly the same thing we've been doing for 20 years now, and nobody has given two shits about it for two decades.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No wonder we have whiplash.

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No wonder we have whiplash.

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Hyperbole of the day!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No wonder we have whiplash.

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Hyperbole of the day!

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Here are the explanations so far for why we had to kill Qassim Soleimani:

Story #1: Iran planned an “imminent strike.”

Story #2: But we don’t know when or where.

Story #3: Wait, they were planning to bomb our embassy in Baghdad. We had to stop them.

Story #4: Well, really, it was revenge for the demonstration against our embassy in Baghdad.

Story #5: Hold on. They were planning to bomb four American embassies. **

By no means do I think this covers all the explanations we’ve gotten. These are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. The last two are from Trump himself.

It’s insane. And so far, the Trumpies have refused to provide even the slightest bit of evidence to back this up, even to the Gang of Eight in Congress.

** A senior administration official and a senior defense official said they were only aware of vague intelligence about a plot against the embassy in Baghdad. Neither said there were threats against multiple embassies. Trump lied.
www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-now-claims-four-embassi
es-were-under-threat-from-iran-raising-fresh-questions-about-intelligence-reports/2020/01/10/02f8d154-33e7-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I just file it under Don't Give a Shit. Problem solved.

Have fun with your whiplash though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I just file it under Don't Give a Shit. Problem solved.

Have fun with your whiplash though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You are not even among the first thousand Trump voters I know and they have, just like you, filed this and everything else about their entire lives under "Don't Give a Shit." That doesn't work nearly as well as they think it should, partly because Trump "Doesn't Give a Shit", either. He doesn't have to because they are gonna vote for him and the GOP no matter what happens between now and forever.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Jonas Brothers are here, they’re out there somewhere ... Sasha and Malia are huge fans, but boys, don’t get any ideas. Two words for you: predator drones. You’ll never see it coming."

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The War Pigs Are Finally Revealing Themselves - And This Is Just The Beginning...
Wednesday, 08 January 2020 17:00 Brandon Smith

In 2016 during the election campaign of Donald Trump one of the primary factors of his popularity among conservatives was that he was one of the first candidates since Ron Paul to argue for bringing US troops home and ending American involvement in the various elitist fabricated wars in the Middle East. From Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Syria and Yemen and beyond, the Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs at the behest of their globalist masters had been waging war oversees unabated for over 15 years. The time was ripe for a change and people felt certain that if Hillary Clinton entered the White House, another 4-8 years of war were guaranteed.

There was nothing to be gained from these wars. They were only dragging the US down socially and economically, and even the idea of “getting the oil” had turned into a farce as the majority of Iraqi oil has been going to China, not the US. General estimates on the costs of the wars stand at $5 trillion US tax dollars and over 4500 American dead along with around 40,000 wounded. The only people that were benefiting from the situation were globalists and banking elites, who had been clamoring to destabilize the Middle East since the day they launched their “Project For A New American Century” (PNAC). Truly, all wars are banker wars.

The Obama Administration's attempts to lure Americans into supporting open war with the Assad regime in Syria had failed. Consistent attempts by George W. Bush and Obama to increase tensions with Iran had fizzled. Americans were showing signs of fatigue, FINALLY fed up with the lies being constructed to trick them into being complicit in the banker wars. Trump was a breath of fresh air...but of course, like all other puppets of the globalists, his promises were empty.

In my article 'Clinton vs. Trump And The Co-Option Of The Liberty Movement', published before the 2016 election, I warned that Trump's rhetoric might be a grand show, and that it could be scripted by the establishment to bring conservatives back into the Republican/Neo-Con fold. At the time, leftist media outlet Bloomberg openly reveled in the idea that Trump might absorb and destroy the “Tea Party” and liberty movement and turn them into something far more manageable. The question was whether or not the liberty movement would buy into Trump completely, or remain skeptical.

Initially, I do not think the movement held onto its objectivity at all. Far too many people bought into Trump blindly and immediately based on misguided hopes and a desire to “win” against the leftists. The insane cultism of the political left didn't help matters much, either.

When Trump started saturating his cabinet with banking elites and globalists from the CFR the moment he entered office, I knew without any doubt that he was a fraud. Close associations with establishment swamp creatures was something he had consistently criticized Clinton and other politicians for during the campaign, but Trump was no better or different than Clinton; he was just an errand boy for the elites. The singular difference was that his rhetoric was designed to appeal directly to liberty minded conservatives.

This meant that it was only a matter of time before Trump broke most of his campaign promises, including his assertions that he would bring US troops home. Eventually, the mask had to come off if Trump was going to continue carrying out the agenda of his masters.

Today, the mask has indeed come off. For the past three years Trump has made announcements of an imminent pull back of troops in the Middle East, including the recent claim that troops would be leaving Syria. All of the announcements were followed by an INCREASE in US troop presence in the region. Consistent attempts have been made to foment renewed strife with Iran. The build-up to war has been obvious, but some people on the Trump train still didn't get it.

The most common argument I heard when pointing out all the inconsistencies in Trump's claims as well as his direct links to globalists was that “He hadn't started any wars, so how could he be a globalist puppet...?” My response has always been “Give it a little time, and he will.”

One of my readers noted recently that “Trump Derangement Syndrome” (TDS) actually goes both ways. Leftists double down on their hatred of Trump at every opportunity, but Trump cultists double down on their support for Trump regardless of how many promises he breaks. This has always been my biggest concern – That conservatives in the liberty movement would ultimately abandon their principles of limited government, the end to banking elites in the White House and ending illegal wars because they had invested themselves so completely in the Trump farce that they would be too embarrassed to admit they had been conned.

Another concern is that the liberty movement would be infected by an influx of people who are neo-conservative statists at their core. These people pretend to be liberty minded conservatives, but when the veil is lifted they show their true colors as the War Pigs they really are. A distinction has to be made between Bush era Neo-Con control freaks and constitutional conservatives; there are few if any similarities between the two groups, but the establishment hopes that the former will devour the latter.

I've noticed that the War Pigs are out in force this past week, beating their chests and calling for more blood. The US government has assassinated Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani, retaliations against US targets have begun, and now the Iraqi government has demanded that US troops be removed from the region, to which Trump has said “no” and demanded payment instead. A new troop surge has been initiated and this WILL end in all out war. The tit-for-tat has just begun.

How do Trump cultists respond? “Kill those terrorists!”

Yes, many of the same people that applauded Trump's supposed opposition to the wars three years ago are now fanatically cheering for the beginning of perhaps the most destructive war of all. The rationalizations for this abound. Soleimani was planning attacks on US targets in Iraq, they say. And, this might be true, though no hard proof has yet been presented.

I'm reminded of the Bush era claims of Iraqi “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, the weapons that were never found and no proof was found that they ever existed. The only weapons Iraq had were the weapons the US sold to them decades ago. Any government can fabricate an excuse for assassination or war for public consumption; the Trump Administration is no different.

That said, I think the most important factor in this debate has fallen by the wayside. The bottom line is, US troops and US bases should NOT be in Iraq in the first place. Trump himself stated this time and time again. Even if Soleimani was behind the attacks and riots in Iraq, US assets cannot be attacked in the region if they are REMOVED from the region as Trump said he would do.

There is only one reason to keep US assets in Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria at this time, and that is to create ongoing tensions in the area which can be used by the establishment to trigger a new war, specifically with Iran.

The War Pigs always have reasons and rationales, though. They say the Muslim world is a threat to our way of life, and I agree that their ideology is completely incompatible with Western values. That said, the solution is not sending young Americans to die overseas in wars based on lies. Again, these wars only benefit the bankers and globalists; they do not make us safer as a people. The only moral solution is to make sure the fascist elements of Muslim extremism are not imported to our shores.

The War Pigs say that we deserve payment for our “services rendered” in the region before we leave, echoing the sentiments of Donald Trump. I ask, what services? Payment for what? The invasion the Iraqi's didn't want, based on fallacies that have been publicly exposed? The US bases that should not be there in the first place? The hundreds of thousands dead from a war that had no purpose except to deliberately destabilize the region?

We will never get “payment” from the Iraqis as compensation for these mad endeavors, and the War Pigs know this. They want war. They want it to go on forever. They want to attach their egos to the event. They want to claim glory for themselves vicariously when we win, and they want to claim victimhood for themselves vicariously when our soldiers or citizens get killed. They are losers that can only be winners through the sacrifices of others.

The War Pigs defend the notion that the president should be allowed to make war unilaterally without support from congress. They say that this type of action is legal, and technically they are right. It is “legal” because the checks and balances of war were removed under the Bush and Obama Administrations. The passage of the AUMF (Authorization For Use Of Military Force) in 2001 gave the Executive Branch dictatorial powers to initiate war on a whim without oversight. Just because it is “legal” does not mean it is constitutional, or right.

In the end, the Trump bandwagon is meant to accomplish many things for the globalists; the main goal though is that it is designed to change liberty conservatives into rabid statists. It is designed to make anti-war pro-constitution activists into war mongers and supporters of big government, as long as it is big government under “our control”. But it's not under our control. Trump is NOT our guy. He is an agent of the establishment and always has been.

For now, the saber rattling is aggressive but the actions have been limited. This will not be the case for long. Some may ask why the establishment has not simply launched all out war now? Why start out small? Firstly, they need conservatives psychologically invested in the idea. This may require a false flag event or attack on American civilians. Secondly, they need to execute an extensive troop build-up, which could take a few months. Declarations of a "need for peace" are always used to stall for time while the elites position for war.

War with Iran is pointless, and frankly, unwinnable, and the elites know this. It's not just a war with Iran, it is a war with Iran, their allies, and every other nation that reacts negatively to our actions. And, these nations do not have to react militarily, they can react economically by dumping US treasuries and the dollar as world reserve.

The establishment wants the US embroiled in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, etc. until we are so hollowed out from conflict that we collapse.

They also need a considerable distraction to hide their responsibility for the implosion of the Everything Bubble and the economic pain that will come with it. The end game for the establishment is for America to self destruct, so that it can be rebuilt into something unrecognizable and eternally monstrous. They want every vestige of our original principles to be erased, and to do that, they need us to be complicit in our own destruction. They need us to participate. Don't participate, and refuse to support new banker wars. Don't be a War Pig.

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Assassination by drone strike? Obama did that for YEARS. It started as a secret CIA program and expanded to involve JSOC Obama had a kill list and everything. Don't you remember when he said he was rather good at it, and his "joke"

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Seriously?

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Sig is trying to equate Obama targeting al-Qaeda and ISIS who live in the back woods or mountain caves with drones, as comparable to killing someone who has been described as the number two person in the Iranian government.

What a disingenuous whack.


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Sig is trying to equate Obama targeting al-Qaeda and ISIS who live in the back woods or mountain caves with drones, as comparable to killing someone who has been described as the number two person in the Iranian government.

What a disingenuous whack.

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It wasn't just the back woods or mountains. There were plenty of cities that saw drone strikes too, and plenty of civilians who were killed in Obama's drone strikes.

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Trump administration refuses to heed Iraq’s call for troop withdrawal

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-demands-punishment-compen
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Jack and sig don't understand the consequences of what Trump did. Or they won't own up to it.

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Hey jack sig. This shits just begun morons.

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THUGR: Hey jack sig. This shits just begun morons.

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