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Tulsi Gabbard - now it makes sense
Sunday, October 13, 2019 10:59 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:08 AM
THG
Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:25 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:31 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:54 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:51 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:00 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: I was always curious why Selfish and Kookie said such nice things about Gabbard very early on in the Dem's presidential campaign run. Why would they care about her, and why so much? Nothing of real note about her positions or her personally. And their tone was always like a Trump one in that, "she's being treated so unfairly! Wha!" Oh, the fake outrage! And now I think I know - at least we have something that makes sense. Essentially, splitting the Dem base vote to help Trump. Try and square the following with the absolute fact that she has NO chance of getting the nomination: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To? As she injects chaos into the 2020 Democratic primary by accusing her own party of “rigging” the election, an array of alt-right internet stars, white nationalists and Russians have praised her. WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, is impressed with her political talent. Richard B. Spencer, the white nationalist leader, says he could vote for her. Former Representative Ron Paul praises her “libertarian instincts,” while Franklin Graham, the influential evangelist, finds her “refreshing.” And far-right conspiracy theorists like Mike Cernovich see a certain MAGA sais quoi. “She’s got a good energy, a good vibe. You feel like this is just a serious person,” Mr. Cernovich said. “She seems very Trumpian.” Among her fellow Democrats, Representative Tulsi Gabbard has struggled to make headway as a presidential candidate, barely cracking the 2 percent mark in the polls needed to qualify for Tuesday night’s debate. She is now injecting a bit of chaos into her own party’s primary race, threatening to boycott that debate to protest what she sees as a “rigging” of the 2020 election. That’s left some Democrats wondering what, exactly, she is up to in the race, while others worry about supportive signs from online bot activity and the Russian news media. Perhaps strangest of all is the unusual array of Americans who cannot seem to get enough of her. On podcasts and online videos, in interviews and Twitter feeds, alt-right internet stars, white nationalists, libertarian activists and some of the biggest boosters of Mr. Trump heap praise on Ms. Gabbard. They like the Hawaiian congresswoman’s isolationist foreign policy views. They like her support for drug decriminalization. They like what she sees as censorship by big technology platforms. Then there is 4chan, the notoriously toxic online message board, where some right-wing trolls and anti-Semites fawn over Ms. Gabbard, calling her “Mommy” and praising her willingness to criticize Israel. In April, the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates. Brian Levin, the head of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino, said Ms. Gabbard had “the seal of approval” within white nationalist circles. “If people have that isolationist worldview, there is one candidate that could best express them on each side: Gabbard on the Democratic side and Trump on the Republican side,” Mr. Levin said. Ms. Gabbard has disavowed some of her most hateful supporters, castigating the news media for giving “any oxygen at all” to the endorsement she won from the white nationalist leader David Duke. But her frequent appearances on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show have buoyed her support in right-wing circles. Both Ms. Gabbard and her campaign refused requests for comment about her support in right-wing circles or threat to boycott the debate. Even some political strategists who have worked with her are at a loss to explain her approach to politics. “She’s a very talented person but I’m not sure, I just don’t know what to say about the campaign exactly,” said Mark Longabaugh, a Democratic strategist who worked with Ms. Gabbard when she was campaigning for Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont in 2016. There is potential upside for Ms. Gabbard: Drawing more attention could energize her donors and perhaps attract more supporters, extending her candidacy’s life span. Yet there is only confusion for several Democratic officials, activists and party officials, who privately say they have been a little spooked by Ms. Gabbard. Rival campaigns worry about her unpredictable attacks if she participates in the debate, pointing to her sharp jabs against Senator Kamala Harris of California in an earlier matchup. “She’s taken a series of policy steps which signal to the right that she has deep areas of alignment,” said Neera Tanden, a longtime policy adviser to Hillary Clinton who now leads the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank. The questions deepened on Thursday after Ms. Gabbard threatened to boycott Tuesday’s debate, arguing that the corporate news media and the Democratic National Committee are working together to rig the event. (The New York Times is a co-sponsor of the debate with CNN.) That message resonates with many of Ms. Gabbard’s supporters. In a moment marked by fractured politics, Ms. Gabbard’s nontraditional positions are a major part of her appeal for voters seeking to break out of polarized partisan divisions. Joe Rogan, the popular podcast host, said he planned to vote for her. Jack Dorsey, the chief executive of Twitter, donated to her campaign. But it’s also an argument that reminds some Democrats of the narrative pushed by Russian actors during the 2016 presidential contest, when an operation by internet trolls worked to manipulate American public opinion: that the electoral system is broken and cannot be trusted. Some of those who have worked with Ms. Gabbard say that, as an Iraq war veteran whose chief message is that America should stop trying to police the world, she is representing viewpoints that draw support from an array of people in the United States as well as abroad. “In reality, Tulsi is really running on an antiwar message that’s consistent with where a lot of veterans are,” said Jon Soltz, chairman of the liberal veterans organization VoteVets.org, which worked closely with Ms. Gabbard during her first congressional campaign. “I know everyone thinks there’s a conspiracy theory here but that’s really what she’s doing.” Still, Democrats are on high alert about foreign interference in the next election and the D.N.C. is well aware of the frequent mentions of Ms. Gabbard in the Russian state news media. An independent analysis of the Russian news media found that RT, the Kremlin-backed news agency, mentioned Ms. Gabbard frequently for a candidate polling in single digits, according to data collected by the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a group that seeks to track and expose efforts by authoritarian regimes to undermine democratic elections. Disinformation experts have also pointed to instances of suspicious activity surrounding Ms. Gabbard’s campaign — in particular, a Twitter hashtag, #KamalaHarrisDestroyed, that trended among Ms. Gabbard’s supporters after the first Democratic debate, and appeared to be amplified by a coordinated network of bot-like accounts — but there is no evidence of coordination between these networks and the campaign itself. Laura Rosenberger, a former policy aide to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and director of the Alliance, sees Ms. Gabbard as a potentially useful vector for Russian efforts to sow division within the Democratic Party. “The Russian activity could be part of a longer-term effort to drive a wedge among Democrats,” she said. “This messaging has echoes of 2016.” That kind of speculation inflames Ms. Gabbard’s supporters online, who are known for swarming Ms. Gabbard’s critics on Twitter, for attacking the news media and the Democratic establishment for perceived bias against her and for compiling YouTube clips of her “destroying” and “shutting down” her Democratic rivals. Ms. Gabbard’s fans are especially sensitive to claims that she is supported by Russian bots and amplified by the Russian state-funded news media outlets — a conspiracy theory, they say, that is designed to delegitimize her campaign and her foreign policy views. “This whole thing the Democratic Party has done by putting forward this false idea that there was collusion between Russia and Trump has hurt our relations in a huge way with the Russians,” Mr. Graham said. “I can’t speak for Tulsi, but I think she feels kind of the same way on some of these things.” She seems a perfect Steve Bannon isolationist, only in Dem clothing.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:48 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:04 PM
Monday, October 14, 2019 8:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: CC doesn't know shit from shinola, which is why he can swallow lies so easily: He has no means of checking them against reality because he doesn't know what reality is. That's what happens when you live in a echo chamber.
Monday, October 14, 2019 9:51 AM
Quote: CC doesn't know shit from shinola, which is why he can swallow lies so easily: He has no means of checking them against reality because he doesn't know what reality is. That's what happens when you live in a echo chamber. Why so hurtful? At least you've confirmed that Gabbard is 2020's Jill Stein, propped up by simpletons and Bannon smurfs.
Monday, October 14, 2019 9:55 AM
Quote: ABC News Busted Using Gun Range Footage To Report Turkish 'Slaughter' Of Kurd Civilians Profile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden ABC News was just busted using two year old gun range footage while reporting on Turkey 'slaughtering' the kurds in the wake of a US withdrawal from the region. This video right here appearing to show Turkey's military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the US against ISIS now horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies" -ABC News
Monday, October 14, 2019 10:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SPAEKING OF LYING ... Quote: ABC News Busted Using Gun Range Footage To Report Turkish 'Slaughter' Of Kurd Civilians Profile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden ABC News was just busted using two year old gun range footage while reporting on Turkey 'slaughtering' the kurds in the wake of a US withdrawal from the region. This video right here appearing to show Turkey's military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the US against ISIS now horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies" -ABC News You can compre the videos for yourself here https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/abc-news-busted-using-gun-range-footage-report-turkish-slaughter-kurdish-civilians ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:12 AM
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: CC doesn't know shit from shinola, which is why he can swallow lies so easily: He has no means of checking them against reality because he doesn't know what reality is. That's what happens when you live in a echo chamber. Why so hurtful? At least you've confirmed that Gabbard is 2020's Jill Stein, propped up by simpletons and Bannon smurfs.
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: CC doesn't know shit from shinola, which is why he can swallow lies so easily: He has no means of checking them against reality because he doesn't know what reality is. That's what happens when you live in a echo chamber. Why so hurtful? At least you've confirmed that Gabbard is 2020's Jill Stein, propped up by simpletons and Bannon smurfs. What is it with you and lying? You just can't stop, can you?
Monday, October 14, 2019 12:57 PM
Quote: CC doesn't know shit from shinola, which is why he can swallow lies so easily: He has no means of checking them against reality because he doesn't know what reality is. That's what happens when you live in a echo chamber.- SIGNY Why so hurtful? At least you've confirmed that Gabbard is 2020's Jill Stein, propped up by simpletons and Bannon smurfs. - CC What is it with you and lying? You just can't stop, can you?- SIGNY Couldn't help notice you completely ignored the premise... or just about everything. >>> How is she not the 2020 version of Jill Stein? If she runs as an Independent won't she take Democrats away from their nominee?
Monday, October 14, 2019 4:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: CC doesn't know shit from shinola, which is why he can swallow lies so easily: He has no means of checking them against reality because he doesn't know what reality is. That's what happens when you live in a echo chamber.Why so hurtful? At least you've confirmed that Gabbard is 2020's Jill Stein, propped up by simpletons and Bannon smurfs.
Monday, October 14, 2019 5:13 PM
Monday, October 14, 2019 10:48 PM
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:09 PM
Quote:“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” an ABC News spokesperson told Gizmodo. “ABC News regrets the error.”
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Minor update to ABC News' lie Sunday night... https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/news-opinion/abc-news-fake-syria-bombing-video-was-actually-footage-from-kentucky-military-show Have no clue who "insidehook.com" is, but this was actually on RCP while I was checking out the polls tonight. Quote:“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” an ABC News spokesperson told Gizmodo. “ABC News regrets the error.” It must be nice to be able to lie and/or be so incompetent at your job, yet still have no worry about being fired from your multi-million-per-year pay day, huh? If anybody sees this being reported on by any "legitimate" news organizations, please let me know.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Minor update to ABC News' lie Sunday night... https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/news-opinion/abc-news-fake-syria-bombing-video-was-actually-footage-from-kentucky-military-show Have no clue who "insidehook.com" is, but this was actually on RCP while I was checking out the polls tonight. Quote:“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” an ABC News spokesperson told Gizmodo. “ABC News regrets the error.” It must be nice to be able to lie and/or be so incompetent at your job, yet still have no worry about being fired from your multi-million-per-year pay day, huh? If anybody sees this being reported on by any "legitimate" news organizations, please let me know. OMG, ABC made a mistake! ALL MSM is DeepState! Vote Trump! Meh - You really can't even tell what the vid is. Yes, bad sourcing, under"lying" "con"text is probably accurate though. You don't think Syria or Turkey or the Kurds are shooting at each other? A bigger story is someone was actually watching ABC News. Meanwhile, lying SoS Trump plays Mafia Don while nothing else gets done.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Speaking of lying ... CC, you haven;t acknowledged that you lied. Again. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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