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Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:27 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:29 AM
Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:35 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh. And BTW... about Warren.
Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh. And BTW... about Warren. What is your fucking point, moron? That Warren's Senate Campaign gave millions to Warren's Presidential Campaign? Is that it? Bernie's Senate Campaign gave millions to Bernie's Presidential Campaign. Big deal. Never forget, 6ix, that although you are highly articulate, you are also incredibly stupid for such a smart person. You should try talking less and working more. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, October 5, 2019 1:23 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: In general, correcting Democrats is a waste of time for Democrats. You're mentally impaired. Democrats need to fix what is wrong inside their own heads, but they ain't gonna do the work to get their heads aligned with reality. I'll give you an example of where reality does not match what is inside your head.
Saturday, October 5, 2019 1:52 PM
Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:49 PM
Sunday, October 6, 2019 7:51 AM
Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:29 AM
THG
Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: In general, correcting Democrats is a waste of time for Democrats. You're mentally impaired. Democrats need to fix what is wrong inside their own heads, but they ain't gonna do the work to get their heads aligned with reality. I'll give you an example of where reality does not match what is inside your head. fify SECOND, you refuse to learn from reality. Democrats had been losing ground for decades, until all they had left was a token presidency - and then Hillary lost, when by all your thinking, she was a shoe-in to win. It didn't matter how MANY posts pointed out Hillary's MANY flaws, or the MANY flaws of the democratic party in general, you refused to even respond to them. You probably didn't even read them. If you don't act on facts or the past, you are just like Trump. But you're even worse. He at least knows what he's rejecting. You actively REFUSE to even consider anything that doesn't conform to your Pavlovian conditioning. And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:57 AM
Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Yep second, comrade kiki's post is right out of Putins playbook, which is, why bother? Everyone else is just as bad. Then follow that up with all the bullshit reasons you can make up to sell that. T
Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:27 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by second: Thanks for the standard Russian trolling. Convincing voters that both sides are equally corrupt causes political chaos, exactly what Russia wants, and it doesn't even need to go to war or get its troops killed if they can do their fighting from their keyboards located east of Moscow.
Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: That is why I think Trump, and GOP politicians in general, should be tax audited by an independent agency beyond political control.
Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: People need to stop thinking things happen in a week. The president of the united states is a very powerful position. Especially when that position is propped up by the inactions of cowardly politicians. It the republicans stayed true to the constitution, Trump would be gone already.
Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:37 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: In general, correcting Democrats is a waste of time for Democrats. You're mentally impaired. Democrats need to fix what is wrong inside their own heads, but they ain't gonna do the work to get their heads aligned with reality. I'll give you an example of where reality does not match what is inside your head. fify SECOND, you refuse to learn from reality. Democrats had been losing ground for decades, until all they had left was a token presidency - and then Hillary lost, when by all your thinking, she was a shoe-in to win. It didn't matter how MANY posts pointed out Hillary's MANY flaws, or the MANY flaws of the democratic party in general, you refused to even respond to them. You probably didn't even read them. If you don't act on facts or the past, you are just like Trump. But you're even worse. He at least knows what he's rejecting. You actively REFUSE to even consider anything that doesn't conform to your Pavlovian conditioning. And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better? Thanks for the standard Russian trolling. Convincing voters that both sides are equally corrupt causes political chaos, exactly what Russia wants, and it doesn't even need to go to war or get its troops killed if they can do their fighting from their keyboards located east of Moscow. And the Republicans I know are certainly good at throwing around false accusations about Democrats. From personal experience I know Republicans are prone to gossip and slander. But I've made it pretty clear I don't like certain people and the funny thing about that dislike is that the people I dislike and can't trust and are crooks in their real lives, far away from politics, are also the same people who vote for Trump. I think somebody should do a study of how people vote compared to how they secretively live their actual day-to-day lives and see which direction the causality runs. Does secretly being an untrustworthy and hypocritical tax-cheater make you vote for Trump? Or is it the other way around? It is very difficult to collect data. Yes, I have surreptitiously copied people's hard drives to discover who they really are. But the first time was a computer my father-in-law gave me in 1990, which he did not properly erase. It was very enlightening to give his tax returns over to a forensic accountant and see how he cheated. My opinion of Republican voters began changing. Every time I collect more data surreptitiously from a target it reaffirms what I learned that first time. Maybe I should publish a academic paper? But there would be trouble for me from all those crooked Trump voters I know if I put my name on the paper. What is really funny is how the Democrats are pathologically honest. That does not work in their favor when their Trump voting competitors habitually cheat on taxes. Later I realize that Trump's tax returns would be a treasure for a scholarly paper on voter behavior. He is the Ultimate-Trump-Voter. If my experience counts, he'd be the most extreme tax cheater in the Universe. "Tax Fraud By The Numbers: The Trump Timeline Updated: Oct. 6, 2019" www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:56 PM
Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: Thanks for the standard Russian trolling. Convincing voters that both sides are equally corrupt causes political chaos, exactly what Russia wants, and it doesn't even need to go to war or get its troops killed if they can do their fighting from their keyboards located east of Moscow. Thank you for mentioning this tactic. Gary Kasparov (Russian troll insults in 3... 2... 1... ), pointed out this tactic back in 2016. As a Russian he's lived through it and continues to see it at work not just in the US - he knows first hand in other words. Also, nice to see Susan Rice mention it. "Get us fighting each other is their tactic. They don't have to fire a shot to bring us down." I'm less optimistic about her solution, "we have to vote," and you could almost see Maddow flinch when she suggested it. "That's it? That's not enough!" I never really thought much of Rice or much about her - this interview paints her in a more positive light imho (cue derisive comments in 3... 2... 1...): Whatever, this bickering and division is the point, even here.
Monday, October 7, 2019 6:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: That is why I think Trump, and GOP politicians in general, should be tax audited by an independent agency beyond political control. ALL politicians should be tax audited by an independent agency beyond political control. The only problem is, show me a single institution that is without bias, or free from outside monetary influences that could change the way they operate. I look at the news media and I don't see a single one. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, October 7, 2019 6:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Thanks for re-starting your libel clock.
Monday, October 7, 2019 7:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: That is why I think Trump, and GOP politicians in general, should be tax audited by an independent agency beyond political control. ALL politicians should be tax audited by an independent agency beyond political control. The only problem is, show me a single institution that is without bias, or free from outside monetary influences that could change the way they operate. I look at the news media and I don't see a single one. Do Right, Be Right. :)That Independent Agency to check for tax cheating of politicians and judges could remove the names from each tax return before sending the return out to forensic auditors. The auditors would know only the numbers, not the political party, of who they are auditing. It would be like science, a double-blind experiment to see who has the disease of crookedness and who does not. Trump has all the signs of crookedness: promises about his tax returns that are not kept; passing tax bills that benefit him; going to extreme litigation to keep his returns a secret; actually being caught cheating in the distant past when calculating the inheritance tax on his parent's estate. The main thing missing is Trump's most recent tax returns, the ones from his White House years and the years on the campaign trail. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, October 7, 2019 9:01 AM
Monday, October 7, 2019 9:04 AM
Monday, October 7, 2019 11:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Thanks for re-starting your libel clock.When will you be suing? I look forward to it, but my lawyer is less enthusiastic, saying: "I won't get any pleasure stomping 1kiki and Signym like they are roaches." (Houston has a cockroach and mosquito problem. You can have two libel cases: one against me for calling you a russian troll, another against my lawyer for characterizing you on the internet as a roach.)
Monday, October 7, 2019 1:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Thanks for re-starting your libel clock.When will you be suing? I look forward to it, but my lawyer is less enthusiastic, saying: "I won't get any pleasure stomping 1kiki and Signym like they are roaches." (Houston has a cockroach and mosquito problem. You can have two libel cases: one against me for calling you a russian troll, another against my lawyer for characterizing you on the internet as a roach.) Me too, I want to play as well. Hey kiki, fuck you you Russian troll. And seconds lawyer is correct. You are a fucking roach. T
Monday, October 7, 2019 2:43 PM
Monday, October 7, 2019 3:37 PM
Monday, October 7, 2019 3:51 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 7:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: What? Are you scared of Fox News when the rest of the Legacy Media propaganda machine is shilling for Democrats 24/7? Get real. You didn't answer my question about your idea for taxes being investigated with the names redacted. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 7:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY CORRUPT BUT AT THIS POINT I THINK THE DEMOCRATS, AND THE M$M, ARE IN THE LEAD.
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: What? Are you scared of Fox News when the rest of the Legacy Media propaganda machine is shilling for Democrats 24/7? Get real. You didn't answer my question about your idea for taxes being investigated with the names redacted. Do Right, Be Right. :)I could make tax auditing of politicians workable, but I am not gonna be put in charge, am I? The tax auditing should only be done by non-American citizens, people who are neither Democrat nor Republican but people who have good reasons to dislike Americans. Those kind of people would really dig deep to find the dirt on politicians without showing favoritism to either side. But Congress won't allow that, will it? Congress gets itchy thinking about Japanese cars. Congress would be completely allergic to Japanese tax auditors going through Congressional tax returns, looking for cheating. Maybe Congress would allow Canadian accountants to do the tax auditing? No, not gonna happen, either. But if it ever did, guys like Trump, who can't show that he paid all his taxes, would not be elected. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY CORRUPT BUT AT THIS POINT I THINK THE DEMOCRATS, AND THE M$M, ARE IN THE LEAD. If Trump’s Rage Brings ‘Civil War,’ Where Will the Military Stand? Vietnam created a huge cultural divide in the U.S. that Richard Nixon successfully exploited, earning him one of the largest electoral victories in American history. But something more sinister may be afoot as we approach the 2020 election. Trump has done what Nixon ultimately could not do. The extent of the visceral hatred much of the military feels for Democrats, the “deep state” and the “fake news media” is a new phenomenon. The belief that there is indeed a coup being orchestrated against President Trump is a weapon Trump has in his arsenal, depending how far down the road to authoritarianism he decides to go. But Trump would need to deeply fracture the military first, and that is something to watch for. Most members of the armed forces are honorable, patriotic Americans who would never take part in such a scheme, despite their support for Trump. But a significant portion just might. More at www.thedailybeast.com/if-trumps-rage-brings-civil-war-where-will-the-military-stand The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There won't be a Civil War. Zero chance. But if there ever were, the Democrats of 2019 are trying to tear up the constitution. It seems like a no brainer. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah. Great idea. Maybe we should have Putin's team do the tax audits? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 9:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah. Great idea. Maybe we should have Putin's team do the tax audits? Do Right, Be Right. :)Why not suggest Israeli forensic accountants auditing Trump's tax return? Because the Israeli government hated Obama and loves Trump is the reason not to. Nobody knows if Trump paid ALL his taxes. There is not one year, out of the last 70 years of him filing taxes where anybody knows if he paid all his taxes for that year. Why? Because he is being "audited", but as soon as the "audit" is complete, he will make his tax return available to the public, as he promised! The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, October 8, 2019 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There won't be a Civil War. Zero chance. But if there ever were, the Democrats of 2019 are trying to tear up the constitution. It seems like a no brainer. Do Right, Be Right. :)6ix, join the Army. Your politics matches their politics: CENTCOM’s environment, and especially that of the Joint Intelligence Center (JIC) which houses all the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analysts, felt political the moment you walked through its doors. Televisions in the lobby, the reception areas, in private office spaces, and even in the employee and visitor’s cafe — were tuned to FOX News. It was Orwellian in its pervasiveness. People at their desks were streaming FOX News while reading Drudge and Breitbart. Many watched internet trolls. “Did you see this! Hillary has Parkinson’s disease!” Like a scene from The Manchurian Candidate, if you criticized Trump, they answered with “Hillary” did this, or “Obama” did that. It was almost as if they’d been programmed. www.thedailybeast.com/if-trumps-rage-brings-civil-war-where-will-the-military-stand The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 2:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's why I hate you Democrats so much for the last 10 years and pushing me to that side. Open your fucking eyes and see that the other side of the Legacy Media arm is programming you dumb fucks the exact same way. They're all in cahoots.
Quote:Between 1989 and 2018, the top one percent increased its total net worth by $21 trillion. The bottom 50 percent actually saw its net worth decrease by $900 billion over the same period.
Friday, October 11, 2019 6:59 AM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:13 AM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's why I hate you Democrats so much for the last 10 years and pushing me to that side. Open your fucking eyes and see that the other side of the Legacy Media arm is programming you dumb fucks the exact same way. They're all in cahoots.Somehow, I don't think I'm being programmed, but rather the bottom 50% are programmed to accept their fate without violence against people like me: Quote:Between 1989 and 2018, the top one percent increased its total net worth by $21 trillion. The bottom 50 percent actually saw its net worth decrease by $900 billion over the same period. I don't have to do a damn thing to protect myself because the GOP protects people like me from people like you by keeping the minimum wage at a minimum and by lowering my taxes. On the other hand, the Democrats don't protect me from higher wages and higher taxes. Maybe I should vote for Trump next time? www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/14/eye-popping-analysis-shows-top-1-gained-21-trillion-wealth-1989-while-bottom-half The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's why I hate you Democrats so much for the last 10 years and pushing me to that side. Open your fucking eyes and see that the other side of the Legacy Media arm is programming you dumb fucks the exact same way. They're all in cahoots.Somehow, I don't think I'm being programmed, but rather the bottom 50% are programmed to accept their fate without violence against people like me: Quote:Between 1989 and 2018, the top one percent increased its total net worth by $21 trillion. The bottom 50 percent actually saw its net worth decrease by $900 billion over the same period. I don't have to do a damn thing to protect myself because the GOP protects people like me from people like you by keeping the minimum wage at a minimum and by lowering my taxes. On the other hand, the Democrats don't protect me from higher wages and higher taxes. Maybe I should vote for Trump next time? www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/14/eye-popping-analysis-shows-top-1-gained-21-trillion-wealth-1989-while-bottom-half The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:47 AM
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 4:27 PM
Quote: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-10-16/democratic-debate-ohio-warren-sanders-buttigieg Opinion: During Democratic debate, Warren sides with the cynics, Buttigieg is with the optimists ... the Democrats know that if they win the nomination, they’ll face the same set of voters that Trump will in November 2020, ... And some of those candidates are pushing the same emotional buttons Trump pushed in 2016 and continues to push today.
Quote:... just as Trump argued that voters were being ignored or even abused by a powerful, shadowy force that controlled the government ... a number of Democrats are trotting out their own version of a powerful, shadowy force that’s harming ordinary Americans: corporations and wealthy individuals whose lobbyists and campaign donations have put the federal government on a leash.
Quote:Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) are the foremost exponents of this point of view, along with billionaire Tom Steyer ... (about) income inequality ... Sanders, Warren and Steyer went furthest by portraying corporations and wealthy individuals as actually controlling the levers of government, corrupting it and running roughshod over the population. This echoes Trump’s contention in the 2016 campaign ...
Quote:Still, several of the more moderate Democrats are painting a decidedly less cynical and more hopeful picture for voters. Their argument, in essence, is that the system isn’t bad — its leader is.
Quote:It’s conventional wisdom in politics that people don’t want to vote for a buzzkill candidate, they want to vote for one with a hopeful message. Even Trump, with all his appeals to fear and distrust, still emphasized a hopeful vision of boom times to come. The issue for Democrats is whether their potential nominees are peddling a vision that’s so cynical about the present that it leaves no room for optimism about the future.
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