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Monday, March 11, 2019 10:28 AM

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Trump's failure to reach a deal with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at their second summit in Vietnam last month dealt a blow to the President's most important foreign policy venture. The White House has rejected criticism of the lack of progress at the two meetings by arguing that the halt to North Korean nuclear and missile tests has been an important victory in itself.

But warnings by analysts based on satellite images that Pyongyang could be preparing to launch a missile or space rocket soon, threatened to undermine even that narrative of limited success.

Trump said last week that he would be "very disappointed if that were happening," while stressing the report was very early assessment.
The restoration work at the launch site could be just a negotiating ploy by Kim after the failure of the summit and just the latest round of decades-long brinkmanship by the North Koreans. But it does show the perils in investing so much political and electoral capital in a diplomatic initiative with the unpredictable North Koreans.

www.cnn.com/2019/03/11/politics/donald-trump-2020-immigration-economy-
budget-north-korea/index.html


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Friday, March 22, 2019 3:45 PM

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Trump surprises by revoking North Korea sanctions immediately after Treasury imposes them. White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said: “President Trump likes Chairman Kim and he doesn’t think these sanctions will be necessary.”

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-surprises-by-revoking-north-korea-sanct
ions-immediately-after-treasury-imposes-them


In what had been a move to ratchet up pressure further, the Treasury Department on Thursday had imposed the sanctions on two Chinese-based companies to highlight “the deceptive methods that the North Korean regime uses to circumvent international and U.S. sanctions, as well as the U.S. Government’s commitment to implement existing UN Security Council resolutions.”

Said Treasury Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin in a statement Thursday, “Treasury will continue to enforce our sanctions, and we are making it explicitly clear that shipping companies employing deceptive tactics to mask illicit trade with North Korea expose themselves to great risk.”

It is okay with Trump if North Korea continues to smuggle goods with the help of China. Trump won't discuss the smuggling or why he did not tell Mnuchin until a day too late. Probably because Trump only heard on FOX News about what the Treasury Secretary was doing after it was done.

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Tuesday, May 7, 2019 3:50 PM

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Is Woodward trying to torpedo peace talks?

Every time something comes out in "the media", I wonder about the motivation behind it. Sometimes it's clear that the goal is simply "money", but in politics the motives are quite a bit murkier.




The media is the enemy of the state, right?



Depends who's in the WH > When Obama was president it was "the government controls the media." She's so full of sh*t she needs to start a sh*t business.



I know, it's proof positive she is nuts.

T



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Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is Woodward trying to torpedo peace talks?

Every time something comes out in "the media", I wonder about the motivation behind it. Sometimes it's clear that the goal is simply "money", but in politics the motives are quite a bit murkier.




The media is the enemy of the state, right?



Depends who's in the WH > When Obama was president it was "the government controls the media." She's so full of sh*t she needs to start a sh*t business.



I know, it's proof positive she is nuts.

T



Trump built a nuke to kill Kim. Kim didn’t hear about it from Woodward. Kim heard from Popular Mechanics. The result is that the Kim/Trump disarmament talks in Hanoi failed Feb 27–28, 2019.
www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a26090298/trump-administrati
on-new-nuclear-weapon
/
Popular Mechanics mistakenly assumed the nuke was for Russia. Anybody who knows Trump knows Putin is the least likely target for that nuke. Kim is the most likely.

Signym was responding to this
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62277&mid=1
059996#1059996

Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:17 PM

North Korea probably won’t be happy with Bob Woodward’s explosive new book about the Trump presidency — and it could hurt the administration’s effort to convince North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons.

Woodward reports that Trump asked Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to come up with a plan to preemptively attack North Korea. That’s consistent with previous reporting indicating the administration considered a so-called “bloody nose” strike, meant to compel Pyongyang to give up its nuclear weapons.

Also, Woodward recounts an exchange between President Donald Trump and Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. Trump calls for killing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. “Let’s fucking kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the fucking lot of them,” Trump told Mattis, referring to Assad and his forces.

Experts worry that these two revelations could hurt America’s nuclear negotiations with North Korea by convincing leader Kim Jong Un that Trump would be willing to order an assassination strike against him — which is a really strong reason for Kim to hold onto his nuclear bombs and missiles.

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Friday, May 17, 2019 11:35 AM

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I see by the lack of action of our local trolls, they just wish this thread would go away.

Sorry no...Trumps a loser

T



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Saturday, May 18, 2019 7:59 AM

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I see by the lack of action of our local trolls, they just wish this thread would go away.

Sorry no...Trumps a loser

T



North Korea was going to stop making plutonium for atom bombs if and only if the "Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization" provided electricity. The Republican Congress under Bush would not pay the $billions negotiated by Bill Clinton to the "Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization", so North Korea kept on making more plutonium. That unwillingness to pay 15 years ago is why Trump is negotiating about atom bombs today. Republican Senators decided payment = "appeasement".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreed_Framework

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Friday, May 31, 2019 5:03 AM

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North Korea has executed five officials for their part in the failed second summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, according to a South Korean newspaper.

Citing the newspaper, Bloomberg News reported that Kim Hyok Chol, North Korea's special envoy to the U.S., was executed by firing squad in March for being "won over by the American imperialists to betray the supreme leader."

The paper also claimed that four other North Korean Foreign Ministry officials were executed that same month because of the breakdown of the February summit in Hanoi, Vietnam, but did not provide details.

www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-executes-5-officials-over-failed-kim
-trump-summit-south-korean-media


Maybe Trump will execute National Security Advisor John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Would that be tragic? Not so much.

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Friday, May 31, 2019 8:37 AM

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... stay crunchy...


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North Korea has executed five officials for their part in the failed second summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, according to a South Korean newspaper.

Citing the newspaper, Bloomberg News reported that Kim Hyok Chol, North Korea's special envoy to the U.S., was executed by firing squad in March for being "won over by the American imperialists to betray the supreme leader."

The paper also claimed that four other North Korean Foreign Ministry officials were executed that same month because of the breakdown of the February summit in Hanoi, Vietnam, but did not provide details.

www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-executes-5-officials-over-failed-kim
-trump-summit-south-korean-media


Maybe Trump will execute National Security Advisor John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Would that be tragic? Not so much.




Some day maybe soon, someone's going to take him out. Maybe we need to raise the bounty? He pretty much holds that entire nation hostage.

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Friday, May 31, 2019 9:44 AM

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Some day maybe soon, someone's going to take him out. Maybe we need to raise the bounty? He pretty much holds that entire nation hostage.

The cheapest way (fewest deaths and property destruction) to handle North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is to buy his loyalty. But Kim can't trust Trump to keep his word on anything, so there will be no deals with Trump. Kim knows that Trump already has "secret" plans to kill Kim:
www.defensenews.com/smr/nuclear-arsenal/2019/01/28/trumps-new-nuclear-
weapon-has-entered-production
/

Park Chung-hee, who was the dictator of South Korea, was assassinated. He was so crazy his regime made North Korea look soft. So crazy that his own security chief eventually assassinated him. It was the last of several assassination attempts on Park Chung Hee, one of which was caught on tape.



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Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:57 AM

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Kim Jong Un Shares His Letter From President Trump



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Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:38 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


evil ... kill ... kill ... blah blah blah ... they'll welcome us in the streets with rose petals ...




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:57 AM

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U.S. President Donald Trump proposed a weekend meeting with Kim Jong Un at the demilitarized zone (DMZ) between North and South Korea on Saturday.

“If Chairman Kim of North Korea sees this, I would meet him at the Border/DMZ just to shake his hand and say Hello(?)!” Trump said, later telling reporters his offer was a spur-of-the-moment idea: “I just thought of it this morning.”

“If he’s there, we’ll see each other for two minutes, that’s all we can, but that will be fine,” he said, adding he and Kim “get along very well”.

Later, Trump told a news conference, “We may be meeting with Chairman Kim ... Kim Jong Un was very receptive.”

He added, “We won’t call it a summit. We’ll call it a handshake,” and said he would be very comfortable stepping over the border into North Korea if he met Kim at the DMZ.

“We’re working things out right now,” Trump said after his arrival in Seoul, when asked whether there will be a three-way meeting with Kim and South Korean President Moon Jae-in on Sunday. “We’re going to see.”

www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-trump/trump-offers-north-kor
eas-kim-weekend-meeting-in-demilitarized-zone-idUSKCN1TT354


Fareed Zakaria believes President Donald Trump is eager to make a deal with North Korea because the President "has decided that this is his path to a Nobel Peace Prize." The prize that Obama got and Trump has not.
www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/29/fareed-zakaria-trump-north-kore
a-nobel-prize-sot-ctn-vpx.cnn


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Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:15 AM

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I happened to wake up at 2:30 am last night, turned on the tv, and WHOA! There's Trump at the DMZ, walking across the border into N. Korea with Kim at his side. Then they turned around and Kim walked into S. Korea. Surrounded by a sea of anxious security guards from 3 countries, and a jostling flock of crazed reporters and photographers, the "historic moment" was quite a spectacle. All that was missing was Elton John singing Candles In The Wind.

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Sunday, June 30, 2019 9:13 AM

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I happened to wake up at 2:30 am last night, turned on the tv, and WHOA! There's Trump at the DMZ, walking across the border into N. Korea with Kim at his side. Then they turned around and Kim walked into S. Korea. Surrounded by a sea of anxious security guards from 3 countries, and a jostling flock of crazed reporters and photographers, the "historic moment" was quite a spectacle. All that was missing was Elton John singing Candles In The Wind.

White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham roughed up by North Korean security guards

Stephanie Grisham replaced Sarah Sanders as White House press secretary only recently, but Grisham reportedly has already been injured on the job.

Grisham suffered bruises. It was not immediately clear if Grisham required medical attention or if anyone else was injured or detained by the guards.

Source called it “an all out brawl.”

www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-press-secretary-stephanie-grisham
-roughed-up-by-north-korean-security-guards


A SURREAL, CHAOTIC DMZ SCENE via live TV feed: AP photog Susie Walsh yelling for Asian press to get out of historic shot, Tucker Carlson calmly videotaping, WH wrangler Hannah Salem running around, Kim Jong-un cracking up, Trump trying to look dignified, relieved Kim didn’t stand him up.
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1145234370782883840

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Sunday, June 30, 2019 11:49 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I didn't realize anyone got hurt there, but I'm not at all surprised due to the raucous chaos I saw on tv. There was no guarantee that Kim would even show up, since Trump only asked him the day before. Definitely a lucky break for Trump that Kim came. I guess there were no afternoon executions on Kim's schedule.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:39 AM

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Kim Jong Un's new nuclear-missile submarine reveals it's bound for a suicide mission

www.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-uns-new-nuclear-missile-submarine-bui
lt-suicide-mission-2019-7


Kim hasn't been pictured inspecting weapons capable of carrying nuclear warheads since the thaw in tensions between Washington and Pyongyang, but on Monday, it appears to have lost its patience with now stalled peace talks.

North Korea has long sought a submarine that can fire ballistic missiles but struggled to create one while under international sanctions. Ballistic-missile submarines give countries like the US and Russia an incomparable deterrent.

Even if an adversary state somehow found every single nuclear weapon North Korea possesses and destroyed them before a single shot could be fired in return, a submarine could lurk under the surface to deal a final retaliation blow.

North Korea has tested several missiles designed to fire from submarines.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 10:30 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yanno, if I were president I'd do a few things differently.

1) I'd disavow our 'first strike' stance, by which we reserve for ourselves the use of nuclear missiles BEFORE anyone else has used them first. That's been our policy ever since we developed nuclear weapons, and it's beyond stupid. That policy has been the excuse many formerly non-nuclear nations have used to develop nuclear weapons of their own. I'm not naive enough to think abandoning the policy would lead any nation with nuclear ambitions - like NK - to give up their plans. But it doesn't change anything about our nuclear capabilities, and it removes handy cover from those countries.

2) I'd make it very clear that any nuclear strike on the US would risk the very existence of the attacking country. Now, this is contrary to international law, which requires proportionate response against military targets only. OTOH it's the very basis of M.A.D.

3) I'd completely disavow the neo-CON/ neo-'liberal' 'limited strike' fantasy.

4) When it comes to particular countries:
I'd work out a deal with Russia (the only other country to date capable of destroying the entire planet on its own) regarding first-strikes on our mutual allies. We will not tolerate them, nor will we deliver them. It would be foolish to set us on a path of complete planetary destruction over small territories. Nobody should enter that arena. But if someone does attack an ally, we WILL respond as if we were attacked.
I'd reenter the nuclear treaty with Iran.

5) I'd up our submarine detection capabilities so we know where all the subs are within striking range of the US, and can detect the different technologies of the different countries, so we know who they belong to.

6) I'd set up a dead-man system of retaliation.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:05 PM

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Yanno, if I were president I'd do a few things differently.

1) I'd disavow our 'first strike' stance, by which we reserve for ourselves the use of nuclear missiles BEFORE anyone else has used them first. That's been our policy ever since we developed nuclear weapons, and it's beyond stupid. That policy has been the excuse many formerly non-nuclear nations have used to develop nuclear weapons of their own. I'm not naive enough to think abandoning the policy would lead any nation with nuclear ambitions - like NK - to give up their plans. But it doesn't change anything about our nuclear capabilities, and it removes handy cover from those countries.

‘No First Use’ and Nuclear Weapons
www.cfr.org/backgrounder/no-first-use-and-nuclear-weapons

The United States has considered but has never declared a No-First-Use (NFU) nuclear policy and remains the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons in war—twice against Japan, in 1945. The Trump administration’s 2018 Nuclear Posture Review expands the range of significant nonnuclear strategic scenarios in which the United States may contemplate nuclear weapons use. Notably, it does not rule out the first use of nuclear weapons in response to cyberattacks. The 2010 Nuclear Posture Review, under the administration of President Barack Obama, reiterated an assurance in place since 1978 that the United States would not use nuclear weapons against compliant members of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). North Korea is not a compliant member.

More at www.cfr.org/backgrounder/no-first-use-and-nuclear-weapons

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 3:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"The Trump administration’s 2018 Nuclear Posture Review expands the range of significant nonnuclear strategic scenarios in which the United States may contemplate nuclear weapons use."

Something I'll be considering in the next election. My other priority is global warming.

But if democrats once again fail to offer an alternative on either or both of these issues, I'll be once again voting 'none of the above'.

Or, as I have opined on many occasions: And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:39 PM

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"The Trump administration’s 2018 Nuclear Posture Review expands the range of significant nonnuclear strategic scenarios in which the United States may contemplate nuclear weapons use."

Something I'll be considering in the next election. My other priority is global warming.

But if democrats once again fail to offer an alternative on either or both of these issues, I'll be once again voting 'none of the above'.

Or, as I have opined on many occasions: And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

1kiki, you wrote: "if democrats fail . . . I'll be once again voting 'none of the above' ."
Voting for neither Democrat nor Republican would place you in the same group as 7.5 billion humans in the world who also don't vote for either Democrat or Republican. Those 7.5 billion ineffectual people are either too young to vote or not registered to vote in the U.S.A. or didn't vote or voted for a third party. That 7.5 billion have got no vote on who will be President.

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6) I'd set up a dead-man system of retaliation.

Worst idea, ever. To see how that dead-man system could malfunction, you should watch Dr Strangelove or The Terminator movies. I will spoil the movie endings: Most of humanity dies in a nuclear war. That's fiction, but if a real dead-man system was actually built, fiction would become reality and we all die, accidentally, in a worldwide suicide machine.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 7:25 PM

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This is a test for Trump.

North Korea has just fired two unidentified projectiles — a provocative move that just so happens to come right as National Security Adviser (and longtime North Korea foe) John Bolton is visiting South Korea.

The launches, which took place early Thursday morning, Korean time, came from the city of Wonsan on North Korea’s east coast, according to South Korea’s joint chiefs of staff. The projectiles flew approximately 265 miles and splashed down in the Sea of Japan.

No other information is known at the moment. An unnamed defense official told CNN that the shot weapon was a short-range missile, but there’s no official confirmation of that yet.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/24/politics/north-korea-projectile/

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:51 PM

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My guess is a potato gun.





Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
6) I'd set up a dead-man system of retaliation.

Worst idea, ever. To see how that dead-man system could malfunction, you should watch Dr Strangelove or The Terminator movies. I will spoil the movie endings: Most of humanity dies in a nuclear war. That's fiction, but if a real dead-man system was actually built, fiction would become reality and we all die, accidentally, in a worldwide suicide machine.



Ummmmm... yeah.

Imma gonna have to put this one in the column of the extremely rare instances where Second and I are in complete agreement.

I don't trust a computer to make phone calls for me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 26, 2019 7:31 PM

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Trump is letting Kim Jong Un do almost anything he wants:

Missile tests. Building provocative submarines. It’s all good.

In just the past week, North Korea has unveiled a brand new submarine that could potentially launch nuclear weapons and tested two short-range missiles that gravely threaten US allies South Korea and Japan.

The casual observer might understandably expect President Donald “fire and fury” Trump and his hawkish administration to respond forcefully to these new provocations. But the opposite has happened: They’re taking the barrage with a degree of calm virtually unseen before from this administration.

In fact, they’re actively downplaying — and in some cases even defending — North Korea’s actions.

For instance, on Thursday, Fox News’s Brett Baier asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about Kim showing off his shiny new (and potentially extremely deadly) submarine and whether that kind of thing makes it harder to reach a deal with North Korea.

Pompeo’s response was stunning: “I went to a defense facility,” he said flatly. “We all go look at our militaries, and we all take pictures of them.”

America’s top diplomat equating his own routine visits to US military sites with a North Korean dictator posing for propaganda photos meant to send threatening signals to Washington and its allies is . . . unusual, to say the least.

Hours later, Trump expressed similar sentiments, telling Fox News’s Sean Hannity that Kim’s missile tests didn’t worry him at all. “They haven’t done nuclear testing, they really haven’t tested missiles other than, you know, smaller ones, which is something that lots [of countries] test,” he said.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the US Defense Intelligence Agency assesses that North Korea may have produced 12 nuclear weapons since Trump and Kim first shook hands in Singapore last year. That, added to the new potentially nuclear-launching submarine and further-tested missiles, means Kim has a greater arsenal at his disposal now than when his diplomacy with Trump started.

www.vox.com/2019/7/26/8931670/trump-north-korea-misisle-submarine-pomp
eo


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Friday, July 26, 2019 8:41 PM

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lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:24 AM

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Trump on Friday played down North Korea’s latest launch of short-range ballistic missiles, calling them “very standard”. It is not standard. All ballistic missile tests by North Korea are banned by U.N. Security Council resolutions.

Trump is keen to hold up his engagement with North Korea as a foreign policy success ahead of his 2020 reelection bid.

Analysts said Trump appeared too desperate to get a deal, even at the expense of raising the risks posed to U.S. allies Japan and Korea, which are both within range of Kim’s short-range missiles, as are tens of thousands of U.S. troops based in North Asia.

www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-usa-trump/flaws-seen-in
-trumps-calm-response-to-north-korean-missile-launches-idUSKCN1UL2M0


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Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

North Korea looks to it's ally Putin. They've seen him threaten Nukes many times



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Friday, August 2, 2019 1:02 PM

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Trump dismisses North Korea missile tests. Experts say he's giving Kim regime a 'free pass'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/08/02/north-korea-if-tr
ump-wont-condemn-missile-tests-kim-may-escalate/1894476001
/

It's astounding how the trolls here, i.e. sig kiki jsf rappy and others were wrong about everything. I mean everything. These are the assholes who get in line when Trump says, don't believe what you see but instead what I say.

Here's a prediction. These same trolls and Trump will blame everyone else when Trump is no longer in office for all their lies and failures. Those too will be lies.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2019 6:06 PM

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N.Korea's Kim says missile launches are warning to U.S., S.Korea over drill -KCNA

Kim said the military action was "an occasion to send an adequate warning to the joint military drill now underway by the U.S. and south Korean authorities," according to KCNA.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nkoreas-kim-says-missile-launches
-are-warning-to-us-skorea-over-drill-kcna/ar-AAFqY0o?ocid=spartandhp


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Saturday, August 10, 2019 6:13 PM

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N. Korea says no inter-Korean talks unless S. Korea, U.S. end military drills

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/n-korea-says-no-inter-korean-talk
s-unless-s-korea-us-end-military-drills/ar-AAFD6GB?ocid=spartandhp


No worries, he did send grand wizard Trump a nice letter.

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Wednesday, August 14, 2019 5:43 PM

THG


North Korean media: New US missiles in South Korea would trigger 'new Cold War'

North Korea warned that the U.S. would trigger a "new Cold War" and a mounting arms race if it decides to place new ground-launched, intermediate-range missiles in South Korea.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korean-media-new-us-missile
s-in-south-korea-would-trigger-new-cold-war/ar-AAFNDQ3?ocid=spartandhp


Oh no Donnie. It looks like Kim no longer loves you. Dumb ass...

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Wednesday, August 14, 2019 5:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It'll be fine.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, August 16, 2019 10:42 AM

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North Korea Launches 2 Projectiles; South Korean Experts Blame Trump

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea launched two projectiles yet again off its east coast on Friday, as South Korean analysts said President Trump’s repeated downplaying of the North’s weapons tests had given it a free hand to conduct them.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-launches-2-projectile
s-south-korean-experts-blame-trump/ar-AAFRDiX?ocid=spartandhp


What a fucking moron...

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Friday, August 16, 2019 11:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I missed the part where somebody blowed up.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, September 9, 2019 10:54 AM

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:50 AM

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North Korea Says U.S. Misleading Public Over Talks Progress

North Korea slammed the U.S. for lacking political will after just-revived disarmament talks fizzled out Saturday, accusing Washington of misleading the public by calling the talks productive and for suggesting the two sides could meet again later this month.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-says-us-misleading-pu
blic-over-talks-progress/ar-AAIl1wi?ocid=spartandhp


Trump, what a fucking loser.



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Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:03 AM

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North Korea says it's running out of patience with US

North Korea on Sunday said it's running out of patience with the United States over what it described as hostile policies and unilateral disarmament demands, and warned that a close personal relationship between the leaders alone wouldn't be enough to prevent nuclear diplomacy from derailing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-says-its-running-out-
of-patience-with-us/ar-AAJpEMY?ocid=spartandhp


Oh no Donnie. Your boy friend is falling out of love with you.

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Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
North Korea says it's running out of patience with US

Oh no Donnie. Your boy friend is falling out of love with you.

Trump didn't get his expected Nobel Peace Prize, so maybe it is time for him to once again threaten North Korea: 'Will Be Met With Fire And Fury'

Remember that video? Trump claimed that it forced Kim to negotiate. What face-to-face negotiations actually did was raise Kim to the same International status level as Trump, which was exactly what Kim wanted. They became equals!

I think Trump needs to return to the good old days of empty threats followed by empty personal negotiations with Kim. Maybe this time he and Kim will receive the Nobel Peace Prize that they covet. Trump probably would have the Prize carved on his tombstone, but Kim is not that shallow a seeker of fame because he is Supreme Leader for Life, while Trump is just momentarily passing through as President.



The day after Trump's Fire and Fury threat, Kim threatened to bomb Guam. Maybe Trump can goad Kim into actually bombing Guam before the next election?



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Sunday, October 27, 2019 3:47 PM

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Trump lied about Obama and North Korea

In June 2018, Trump made a case for diplomatic engagement with North Korea. He criticized former President Barack Obama for never speaking to dictator Kim Jong Un -- baselessly saying Obama was "essentially" ready to go to war without having tried talking.

"I did ask him: 'Have you spoken to him?' He goes, 'No,'" Trump said on Fox News. "I said, 'Do you think it would be a good thing to speak to him, maybe?'"

By June 2019, the complaint about Obama not talking to Kim had become a baseless tale about Obama unsuccessfully begging Kim for a meeting.

"President Obama wanted to meet, and Chairman Kim would not meet him. The Obama administration was begging for a meeting," Trump said at a news conference with South Korean President Moon Jae-in. "They were begging for meetings constantly. And Chairman Kim would not meet with him. And for some reason, we have a certain chemistry, or whatever."

During a highly dishonest Cabinet monologue on Monday, Trump returned to the structure of the original story about Obama not speaking to Kim -- except there was a new addition.

"I said, 'Did you ever call him?' 'No.' Actually, he tried 11 times," Trump said. "But the man on the other side -- the gentleman on the other side -- did not take his call. Okay? Lack of respect. But he takes my call."

In summary: Trump's story about Obama not talking to Kim morphed into Obama unsuccessfully begging Kim for a meeting, which morphed into Obama unsuccessfully trying to call Kim "11 times."

There is no evidence Obama ever sought a meeting with Kim or tried to call Kim even once.

"Obama never called Kim Jong Un. Obama never tried to meet Kim Jong Un. Trump is a serial liar and not well," Ben Rhodes, who served as deputy national security adviser to Obama, said on Twitter on Monday.

www.cnn.com/2019/10/27/politics/fact-check-lies-trump-fiction-obama-ki
m-jong-un/index.html


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Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:14 AM

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US, S Korea postpone joint exercise criticized by N Korea

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-s-korea-postpone-joint-exercis
e-criticized-by-n-korea/ar-BBWShc8?ocid=spartandhp


For what? N Korea has not given us anything? Why does Trump continue to be rolled by foreign leaders?

What a fucking pussy.

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Monday, December 9, 2019 12:27 PM

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North Korea calls Trump 'erratic' old man over tweets

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea insulted U.S. President Donald Trump again on Monday, calling him a “heedless and erratic old man” after he tweeted that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un wouldn’t want to abandon a special relationship between the two leaders and affect the American presidential election by resuming hostile acts.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-calls-trump-erratic-o
ld-man-over-tweets/ar-BBXXVQ3?ocid=spartanntp


Everything Trump touches falls apart because there is never any fact based approach to his thinking.

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Monday, December 9, 2019 2:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

You really need to broaden your sources of news.

You have absolutely no grasp on reality.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:18 AM

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North Korea Links 2nd ‘Crucial’ Test to Nuclear Weapons Program

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea said on Saturday that it had conducted “another crucial test” at a missile-engine and satellite-launching site, its second such test in a week as the country attempts to press the United States into further talks and new concessions. It declared that both tests would feed into its military’s nuclear program.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-links-2nd-crucial-tes
t-to-nuclear-weapons-program/ar-AAK7oUu?ocid=spartanntp


Disappointing Trump is what I call him. Disappointing Trump...

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Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:37 PM

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SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is set to make a closely watched New Year address on Wednesday which is likely to offer a glimpse of a "new path" he has vowed to take if the United States fails to meet his deadline to soften its stance over denuclearization.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-koreas-kim-to-unveil-new-pa
th-in-new-year-speech-after-us-misses-deadline/ar-BBYtXh0?ocid=spartandhp


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Wednesday, January 1, 2020 6:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

This came out of nowhere. It appears Trump suggested to the South Koreans this should happen. He spoke to no one before hand. No advisors or anyone knowledgeable about North Korea to see if this was a good idea. He just set it up.

Bam, North Korea jumped at it. Trump had said the North had to denuclearize before talks. I guess he changed his mind.

Don't misunderstand, I want a miracle here. I am rooting Trump succeeds. I just don't' see it. He can't even negotiate successfully with a porn star. So far every foreign leader he has meet with has cleaned his clock.

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North Korea Is No Longer Bound by Nuclear Test Moratorium, Kim Says

South Korea — North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, ?said his country no longer felt bound by its self-imposed moratorium on testing nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic missiles, its official media reported on Wednesday, the strongest indication yet that the country could soon resume such tests.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-is-no-longer-bound-by
-nuclear-test-moratorium-kim-says/ar-BBYvwwo?ocid=spartanntp


Yup, yet another of Trumps major fuck ups. If you didn't see this coming don't pretend to have a brain.

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Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:19 AM

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Oh boy. Hope you don't live on the coast.

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Friday, January 17, 2020 7:48 PM

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No. 2 US general says North Korea building new missiles 'as fast as anybody on the planet'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/no-2-us-general-says-north-korea-
building-new-missiles-as-fast-as-anybody-on-the-planet/ar-BBZ4DyP?ocid=spartandhp


Can you say Trump is a dick. I can, I can say Trump is a dick. Can you say sig rappy kiki Jack and jsf are dicks for supporting this guy. I can, I can say sig rappy kiki Jack and jsf are dicks for supporting this guy.

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Monday, February 10, 2020 5:13 PM

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EXCLUSIVE: N.Korea enhanced nuclear, missile programs in 2019 in breach of sanctions - UN report

Feb 10 (Reuters) - North Korea continued to enhance its nuclear and ballistic missile programs last year in breach of United Nations sanctions, according to a confidential U.N. report seen by Reuters on Monday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/un-n-korea-nuke-program-in-breach
-of-sanctions/ar-BBZR1kv?ocid=msedgntp




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Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I see by the lack of action of our local trolls, they just wish this thread would go away.

Sorry no...Trumps a loser

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