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Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Mick Mulvaney rewrites history, claims Trump never promised to release his tax returns.
www.vox.com/2019/4/8/18300213/mick-mulvaney-trump-tax-returns-fox-news
-sunday


In 2014, Trump said that if he “decide[s] to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns. Absolutely. I would love to do that.” In 2015 — months before launching his presidential campaign — Trump told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt that “I would release tax returns ... I have no objection to certainly showing tax returns.”
https://thinkprogress.org/there-is-no-absolution-for-trump-on-birtheri
sm-cfb255591cf9
/

Candidate Trump reiterated that vow during the first presidential debate with Hillary Clinton with a now-familiar caveat, saying, “I’m under a routine audit and it’ll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished, it will be released.”
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1421/rel
ease-his-tax-returns-after-audit-completed
/

“The reason that I think that there’s a bombshell in there is because every time he’s asked about his taxes he dodges and delays and says well, we’re working on it,” Mitt Romney said during a Fox News interview in February 2016. “I think there’s something there.”

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Monday, April 8, 2019 11:52 AM

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White House Says Mueller Report Must Be Kept Private Because It’s So Exonerating It Would Drive Public Mad

https://politics.theonion.com/white-house-says-mueller-report-must-be-
kept-private-be-1833813865


Huckabee-Sanders warned that the general public, upon reading the report, would be reduced to “gibbering idiots,” foaming at the mouth as they read the secret revelations that confirm President Trump is the single least-guilty individual in the history of mankind. “If everyday citizens were to see for themselves how thoroughly the president has been absolved from any conceivable wrongdoing, they would have a total psychotic breakdown.”

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

The Democrats will never be satisfied, no matter what they get, how much they get, or how many pages they get. It will never end, but that’s the way life goes!
9:48 AM - 8 Apr 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1115295440558280704

Does Trump Still Want the Mueller Report Released?

Trump hasn’t tweeted lately about how the Mueller report is a total exoneration and he’s eager for it to be made public. That’s odd, isn’t it? I wonder what’s up?

Only yesterday, Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani told Fox News Channel's Howard Kurtz on "MediaBuzz" that he and President Trump both want to see Mueller's report released in its entirety and slammed members of Mueller's team who leaked to the New York Times about the probe's conclusions.

"I'm very concerned about the leaks, I'm not concerned about the report. I'd like the whole report to be out," Giuliani said. "I think we can handle it, I think it will show that the president didn't do any of the things he's been accused of."

www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/07/giuliani_on_mueller_probe_i
m_very_concerned_about_leaks_im_not_concerned_about_the_report.html


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Monday, April 8, 2019 2:19 PM

REAVERFAN


William Barr Walks Back His Story, Says He Never Intended His Letter As A Summary
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/30/1846497/-William-Barr-Walks
-Back-His-Story-Says-He-Never-Intended-His-Letter-As-A-Summary?detail=emaildkre


This is to be expected. It was surmised from the timing of the Barr letter(s), that their main purpose was to take over the news cycle and give Trump his victory lap.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The Mueller invesigation is over, and there will be no indictments for "collusion" or "obstruction of justice" which was Mueller's formal remit.

Liberaloids still can't get over that fact and are now concocting yet another conspriacy theory (coverup!) to bolster their denialism.

However, looking FORWARD ...

One possibility on the report's conclusions is that the deep state and Trump reached a detente: Trump would continue with his neocon foreign policies and the deep state would stop hounding him and his family.

If that were the case, I would expect that the Trump administration would "let sleeping dogs lie" ... that Comey, Strzok, Page, Obama, Hillary, McCabe, etc would be allowed to quietly fade into history.

However, if that is NOT the case then ... with "sit on my hands" Sessions out of office, and the Trump administration free from "obstruction of justice" accusations (since the investigation is now over) ... the administration would be free to investigate the investigators, including DOJ, FBI, CIA, and NSA staff as well as Obama and Hillary for evidence that the investigation was politically-motivated and evidence that the investigation was tainted by illegal acts (such as withholding information from the FISA court.)

If Barr conducts a thorough investigation, then the deep state and Trump have NOT reached an accommodation. But if Barr stays quiet, or conducts a whitewash, then a deal probably took place.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The Mueller invesigation is over, and there will be no indictments for "collusion" or "obstruction of justice" which was Mueller's formal remit.

Formally:
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump . . .
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-M
ueller-special.html


That is not within a mile of what Signym says it was.

Surprising how many people went to jail over just that 1 page letter of instructions.
http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-fury-and-failure-of-donald-
trump-w444943



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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:42 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I say indict the prez.........



Brother Mueller, please testify!


SGG

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:58 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Yes, I'm up her skirt and about to hit the mother load...
There really should be another iconic symbol of the country's democracy
present.......good ole Lady Justice....except of course, aside from being blind, she's been locked away in a gravel-filled, damp, cold, dungeon handcuffed and shackled, awaiting her fate.

The dungeon masters will see to it (McConnell and Graham).

P.S.

"Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have war, let it begin here." - Captain John Parker, 1775

"We fight, get beat, rise and fight again!" - General Nathaniel Greene, 1781

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1776


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The Mueller invesigation is over, and there will be no indictments for "collusion" or "obstruction of justice" which was Mueller's formal remit.

Formally:
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump . . .
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-M
ueller-special.html


That is not within a mile of what Signym says it was.

Surprising how many people went to jail over just that 1 page letter of instructions.
http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-fury-and-failure-of-donald-
trump-w444943



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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 2:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:


The Mueller invesigation is over, and there will be no indictments for "collusion" or "obstruction of justice" which was Mueller's formal remit. - SIGNY

Formally:
Quote:

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump . . .
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-M
ueller-special.html



That is not within a mile of what Signym says it was. SLOPPYSECONDS



How is "collusion" different from "links and/or coordination"? In fact, my description was even broader than what you quoted, because I included "obstruction of justice" which (according to you) wasn't even in Mueller's scope. You're lying (again) by insinuating that I'm somehow giving Trump a "pass" by mis-describing Mueller's remit, but I'm not and I didn't. Jeez, untwist your panties, willya?

Quote:

Surprising how many people went to jail over just that 1 page letter of instructions.
http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

And none of them had to do with RUSSIA!!!, so it seems to me that Mueller took his investigation beyond what he was authorized.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 2:41 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How is "collusion" different from "links and/or coordination"? In fact, my description was even broader than what you quoted, because I included "obstruction of justice" which (according to you) wasn't even in Mueller's scope. You're lying (again) by insinuating that I'm somehow giving Trump a "pass" by mis-describing Mueller's remit, but I'm not and I didn't. Jeez, untwist your panties, willya?

Quote:

Surprising how many people went to jail over just that 1 page letter of instructions.
http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

And none of them had to do with RUSSIA!!!, so it seems to me that Mueller took his investigation beyond what he was authorized.

Signym, a dozen Russians that work for the KGB were indicted. What is wrong you?
www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/read-muellers-full-indictment-against-12-r
ussian-officers-for-election-interference


By the way, everybody Mueller investigated was either indicted or jailed, except for Trump. Trump was not because Mueller was told he can't indict a President for any reason, even if guilty as hell. If either Congress or the voters remove Trump, then Trump can be indicted.
www.politico.com/story/2018/12/11/trump-2020-criminal-prosecution-1055
291

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer/can-a
-sitting-us-president-face-criminal-charges-idUSKCN1QF1D3


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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 2:48 PM

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Quote:

However, if that is NOT the case then ... with "sit on my hands" Sessions out of office, and the Trump administration free from "obstruction of justice" accusations (since the investigation is now over) ... the administration would be free to investigate the investigators, including DOJ, FBI, CIA, and NSA staff as well as Obama and Hillary for evidence that the investigation was politically-motivated and evidence that the investigation was tainted by illegal acts (such as withholding information from the FISA court.)


It's really hard for me to understand the logic of the right. Oh, I know, they
swallow hook,line and sinker whatever Trump vomits. So the fact that Barr in his bullshit letter says that Mueller did NOT exonerate the evil fuck, Trump,
that has no factual basis. It's only what comes out of his pie-hole.

Having said that...I welcome a full investigation on all of the above. Let's
get to the bottom of this fucking Republican circus. My guess is that, like most of Trump's lies, it will be all "smoke and mirrors" and nothing will come of it. Just like Melania will produce her papers in a "couple of weeks" and
"we will repeal and replace" and "we will build that wall" - still waiting.
Smoke and mirrors.

He has asked the CBP to refuse to process any asylum seekers and so on. He has "ordered" them to restart the family separation
policy (Not only is he asking that they go against the court order, thereby breaking the law, he's going against his own Executive Order).

This is totally insane. And against the fucking law.

Conservatives, the far right, talk so much shit about following the law. About illegal immigrants coming into the country "legally" and here we have this orange scumbag talking about ignore the judge's order. Hell, he wants to get rid of judges. Meanwhile he's replacing federal court judges with a bunch of hacks for lifetime federal appointments. I hope that he contracts cancer and dies a slow painful death. Nothing short of torturous agonizing pain would be
sufficient for such a shitbag snake.

Lord, if you exist, please make it so.

Quote:

If Barr conducts a thorough investigation, then the deep state and Trump have NOT reached an accommodation. But if Barr stays quiet, or conducts a whitewash, then a deal probably took place.


Somehow I don't see that, a deal, happening at all. Barr, that slug, was
supremely arrogant, downright evil and spoke extremely rudely to Congress
during his "hearing" before the Appropriations Committee. Of course he must be forgiven for his muffled responses, since he was sucking Trump's puny prick
so hard. Oh the right should be really happy about now. This shill, this scum
sucking motherfucker will have his name prominently displayed in the history books when all comes to light. Barr = Shit eating slug!

He can only hide behind his "interpretation" of the law but for so long. Mueller knew that he would never get to "indict" that other scum/shit eating slug in the Oval office. His hand was forced, but, in time, it will all come to light. Maybe, just maybe before I die...somehow good men/women will fucking
stick a 10-foot pole deep in whatever the Devil exchanged their bowels with.

P.S. Barr knows that if Congress, in particular Nadler, pursues the full report in court, that it could take years, well beyond 2020. The Republicans
have, in Trump's own words, really "stacked" the deck. They presently have
all the cards in their favor. And McConnell is busy sharpening his pitchfork.
I'm truly trying to wipe that smug look on his (Barr) face from my memory, as he dodged question after question from Congress. Fucking shitbag!

Trump's shill in the DOJoke!


SGG

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

It's really hard for me to understand the logic of the right. Oh, I know, they swallow hook,line and sinker whatever Trump vomits.

I saw a great editorial that will help you understand. It uses a Democrat, rather than Trump, as the example:

"[My Mother] was unshakable in her sense of moral rectitude, viewing sins like lying, gambling and philandering as absolute corruptions of character.

And yet, through my time growing up there and going to college there, she took a devilish pride in enthusiastically supporting and voting for the four-term Democratic governor, Edwin Edwards, a cocksure, gambling womanizer who would end up in federal prison in 2002 for bribery and extortion.

On the surface, it doesn’t make sense that my mother, who thought herself a moralist, would find a champion in a flaunting immoralist, but she did as did many other Louisiana voters." More about the explanation at
www.nytimes.com/2019/04/07/opinion/donald-trump-trumpism.html

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:28 PM

RUE

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Signym, a dozen Russians that work for the KGB were indicted.
www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/read-muellers-full-indictment-against-12-r
ussian-officers-for-election-interference

Notably - not for collusion! What is wrong you?
Quote:

By the way, everybody Mueller investigated was either indicted or jailed
But not for collusion!
Quote:

except for Trump.
Because Mueller couldn't find proof of collusion!collusion!collusion!
Quote:

Trump was not because Mueller was told he can't indict a President for any reason
Especially because there was no proof of collusion!
Quote:

even if guilty as hell.
Of NOT COLLUSION!!!

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SLOPPYSECONDS is just plain crazy. Hatred and lies have derailed his thought processes for ... years, quite possibly. Reality? No longer makes a dent.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 8:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Signym, a dozen Russians that work for the KGB were indicted.
www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/read-muellers-full-indictment-against-12-r
ussian-officers-for-election-interference
] Notably - not for collusion! What is wrong you?
Quote:

By the way, everybody Mueller investigated was either indicted or jailed
But not for collusion!
Quote:

except for Trump.
Because Mueller couldn't find proof of collusion!collusion!collusion!
Quote:

Trump was not because Mueller was told he can't indict a President for any reason
Especially because there was no proof of collusion!
Quote:

even if guilty as hell.
Of NOT COLLUSION!!!


On the June 21 episode of Preet Bharara’s podcast, “Stay Tuned with Preet,” a listener called in to ask about the legal meaning of the word “collusion.” Bharara and his two guests were quick to set the record straight; the term collusion, despite its frequent use, has no actual legal definition outside of antitrust law. Instead, Bharara raised a different question for his guests: If collusion has no legal meaning in the context of the Russia investigation, then “why has the word … captured everyone’s attention?” What’s more, how did a word with no legal relevance to the case become so associated with the Trump-Russia allegations?

You can read the rest here, but short answer is that the word was used by Manafort, one of Trump's guys. Manafort knows nothing. Mueller, on the other hand, knows the word collusion is synonymous with what-the-fuck-are-you-talking-about? Mueller would never use that word, collusion, in the context of anything, ever.
www.lawfareblog.com/where-heck-did-term-collusion-come

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s February 2018 indictment charging 13 Russian individuals and entities with conspiracy might have put the concept of conspiracy in play. Read about those Russians:
www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

There is another group of Russians indicted. They worked directly for Putin:
www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
Say hello to them, rue/1kiki and Signym, our Russian Trolls for Firefly.

So why did Mueller not indict Trump? It is NOT because Trump is innocent. It is because Mueller was ordered/commanded/required NOT to indict the President. Everybody else in the world is a target for Mueller, except for the President.
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer/can-a
-sitting-us-president-face-criminal-charges-idUSKCN1QF1D3


“The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions,” says the Head of the Justice Department, Barr, very recently appointed by Trump especially to protect Trump from Mueller. But some lawyers have argued that the nation’s founders could have included a provision in the Constitution shielding the president from prosecution, but did not do so, suggesting an indictment would be permissible. According to this view, immunity for the president violates the fundamental principle that nobody is above the law.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm using the word "collusion" because that's what the know-nothings (that means YOU TOO, SLOPPYSECONDS) here have been using, but the real word is "conspiracy".

TRUMP WASN'T FOUND INDICTABLE ON THAT, EITHER.

Deal with it.



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm using the word "collusion" because that's what the know-nothings (that means YOU TOO, SLOPPYSECONDS) here have been using, but the real word is "conspiracy".

TRUMP WASN'T FOUND INDICTABLE ON THAT, EITHER.

Deal with it.

Deal with this: Mueller was told by Barr that the final Mueller Report cannot indict Trump. “The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions,” says the Head of the Justice Department, Barr, very recently appointed by Trump especially to protect Trump from Mueller. But some lawyers have argued that the nation’s founders could have included a provision in the Constitution shielding the president from prosecution, but did not do so, suggesting an indictment would be permissible. According to this view, immunity for the president violates the fundamental principle that nobody is above the law.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer/can-a
-sitting-us-president-face-criminal-charges-idUSKCN1QF1D3


Barr did not have the guts to tell Mueller not to indict Russians. Mueller indicted Putin's people, on the Kremlin's payroll. Here are the indictments:
www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 11:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Go back to what the letter said: “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Even if Mueller were inhibited from indicting Trump, Jared, Trump Jr, Flynn, Manafort ... NONE of these people were recommended for indictment of "conspiracy" or "coordination".





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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Go back to what the letter said: “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Even if Mueller were inhibited from indicting Trump, Jared, Trump Jr, Flynn, Manafort ... NONE of these people were recommended for indictment of "conspiracy" or "coordination".

It is worse than you believe because it was Russians doing all the useful thinking about how to win an election, since none of the Trump people can, especially goofy Jared and the two dummy Trump sons. Why bother indicting those three stuffed shirts? On the other hand, the Russians sure were smarter than Trump's people. Mueller indicted the Russian masterminds behind Trump's win:
www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

I think Trump needs to directly hire the Russians to run his 2020 campaign and cut out his in-laws, children, and middlemen. Hire the best Russians and get the best results, I say.

Come to think of it, if Trump hires the Russian masterminds, and places them officially on his payroll, then there is no way to legally complain about Russian interference in the 2020 American elections. These are Trump employees first, not Russians. Trump can get them work permits and everything is perfectly legal.

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 12:06 AM

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And still, no collusion.

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
And still, no collusion.

Did you not get the memo? Collusion is not illegal. Mueller could NOT charge anybody with the crime of collusion because it is not a crime. He had about 100 people going to jail, but none for non-crimes.

"Where the Heck Did the Term 'Collusion' Come From?"
www.lawfareblog.com/where-heck-did-term-collusion-come

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 12:42 AM

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Another 17 posts today?

When will the Mueller Witch Hunt end?

And they'll still never dream up any Evidence.

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another 27 posts today?
When will the Mueller Witch Hunt end?
And they'll still never dream up any Evidence.

I just like watching SLOPPYSECONDS walking himself over the edge.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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You certainly take no issue when THUGGER, RF, GEEBERS, SGG, et al use the word 'collusion' and its variations - which they do quite frequently. like some kind of unholy chant.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=4
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=5
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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=43
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=50

You've even used that word yourself - sometimes multiple times in multiple posts on a single page - without a single caveat or even a murmur of objection to the word. Sometimes you like those 'collusion' posts so much, you even repeat them again on another page.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=7
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=8
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=15
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=25
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=28
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=32
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=33
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=34
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=35
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&p=43

There have been dozens of pages and roughly 100 'collusion' posts in one thread alone that you thought were perfectly acceptable.


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
On the June 21 episode of Preet Bharara’s podcast, “Stay Tuned with Preet,” a listener called in to ask about the legal meaning of the word “collusion.” Bharara and his two guests were quick to set the record straight; the term collusion, despite its frequent use, has no actual legal definition outside of antitrust law.

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Did you not get the memo? Collusion is not illegal.



So why are you objecting now?

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I just like watching SLOPPYSECONDS walking himself over the edge.

Putin said while attending an Arctic forum in St. Petersburg, "We have been saying from the start that this notorious commission led by Mr. Mueller won't find anything, because no one knows better than us: Russia has not meddled in any U.S. election." Putin must be joking. Mueller found Putin's "anything". Mueller indicted dozens of Russians working for Putin.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-russia-knows-mueller-probe-gave-bir
th-to-a-mouse/ar-BBVLtjG


Mueller's two lists of indicted Russians:
www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/809069737879674888/



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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

There have been dozens of pages and roughly 100 'collusion' posts in one thread alone that you thought were perfectly acceptable.

So why are you objecting now?

It was Manafort who first started using the word collusion all the time, trying to blow smoke in everyone's face. Trump used collusion for the same reason. Mueller never used the word because he strives for clarity, clear air, no smoke. Now Manafort is in jail. Mueller is not. Are we following the convicted felon Manfort's example? Are we going to keep blowing smoke to camouflage what is happening?

www.newyorker.com/cartoons/a20602


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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another 17 posts today?

When will the Mueller Witch Hunt end?

And they'll still never dream up any Evidence.



Agreed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another 17 posts today?

When will the Mueller Witch Hunt end?

And they'll still never dream up any Evidence.



Agreed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Feeling Strong, Trump Attacks FBI, because that is what criminals do when their lawyer, in this case William Barr, gets them off the hook!

Attorney General William Barr has assembled a "team" to investigate the origins of the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign, an administration official briefed on the situation told Fox News on Tuesday.

Republicans repeatedly have called for a thorough investigation of the FBI's intelligence practices and the basis of the since-discredited Russian collusion narrative following the conclusion of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe -- and they now appear to have assurances that a comprehensive review was underway.

And yet, dozens of Russians were indicted in the so-called "discredited Russian collusion narrative". See Mueller's list of Russians:
www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-assembles-team-to-look-into-counterintel
ligence-investigation-on-trump-campaign-in-2016-official-says


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4 key things to look for in the Mueller report once it’s released:

1) Did Mueller conclude there was no collusion — or just that he couldn’t bring a charge?

2) Why didn’t Mueller make a traditional prosecutorial recommendation on obstruction of justice?

3) What did Mueller find out about obstruction of justice — and why do some on his team think it’s worse for Trump than Barr let on?

4) Did Barr explain each redaction?

Barr is releasing a version that the Justice Department has redacted, to hide four main categories of information: grand jury material, information relating to ongoing investigations, disclosures that could compromise sources and methods, and material that compromises peripheral figures’ privacy rights.

(There could be a fifth main category: material that makes Trump look guilty. For example: "You can't see my income tax returns. You'd see where I cheated." That would be completely redacted, with no explanation why the two sentences were removed from the Final Report.)

More at www.vox.com/2019/4/10/18300386/mueller-report-release-trump-russia-obs
truction


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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:28 PM

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Republicans are growing more and more alarmed about Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/republicans-growing-alarmed-trumps-in
creasingly-erratic-behavior
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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Republicans are growing more and more alarmed about Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/republicans-growing-alarmed-trumps-in
creasingly-erratic-behavior
/


Good quote from that story: Trump and the White House have been relatively successful at spinning the completion of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation that ended without bringing any additional charges last month in his favor, but the president has failed to use the opportunity to claim higher moral ground. Instead, he and Attorney General Bill Barr are digging in for a major fight with Congress about releasing the final report, a move that is sure to bring only more chaos.

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Republicans are growing more and more alarmed about Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/republicans-growing-alarmed-trumps-in
creasingly-erratic-behavior
/




Ya don't say?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=rawstory

Quote:

Sorry, but nothing matched your search terms. Please try again with different keywords.


Mediabiasfactcheck doesn't even seem to recognize rawstory as a news outlet.


One might ask if that's better or worse than only quoting extreme left biased websites.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
The rule of law does not include GOP Senators. What would the Senate do if Trump obstructed justice? The Senate could ignore obstruction or it could remove Trump from office. In the latter case, ordinary citizen Trump, the ex-President, goes to a criminal trial. Then jail. Trump did obstruct justice, but no Republican Senator will vote to remove Trump. Those Senators have already decided Trump is innocent and there is no rule of law that will force them to change their minds. Trump admits the allegations of collusion between his advisers and Russian officials played into sacking of FBI director in order to obstruct justice. But the Republican Senators have decided to ignore what they heard Trump say on TV:
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/11/donald-trump-james-comey-firin
g-russia-investigation

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Originally posted by SECOND:
Are we following the convicted felon Manfort's example? Are we going to keep blowing smoke to camouflage what is happening?

Are you?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
My reply should be Benghazi, but I'll simply say: Why? Don't you think that the Republicans would take advantage were it about Obama? Stringing things out is their M.O.

McConnell's infamous obstruction of Obama's administration, for one.

As far as no collusion and the rest. Those will turn out to be a "Jack in the Box" surprise.

Just so you know, I prefer Dunkin' Donuts....ha, ha, ha

Whole report please!


SGG

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THUGGER:
Yep, just a new phase of the investigation into Trump and his super corrupt administration. The rule of law is running it's course and that's what the trolls don't get.

They also don't get that they've exposed themselves as trolls who care nothing about the crimes exposed. They only talk about collusion. If conspiracy is not proven then to them Trump is somehow vindicated. That level of ignorance is off the charts.

tick tock

T

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:08 PM

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Quote:

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I wouldn’t find a “no collusion” finding to be so surprising. But MAGAkultists shouldn’t find it to be very reassuring either. From all we’ve seen, Trump has laundered a lot of Russian mob money. Putin has a lot of “Kompromat” on him, and that’s why he did everything he could to install him. Trump is a Putin asset not necessarily because he wanted to be, but because he allowed himself to be duped into the role. Trump is a criminal being blackmailed by another criminal to commit treason on his behalf. Both Occam’s and Hanlon’s Razors apply here.

We haven’t seen the report yet. We've seen evidence of collusion, proof of corruption, and some real slimy behavior by Trump's campaign. Is that enough to indict Trump? Or is there enough plausible deniability to keep him away from any real consequences? He's already survived scandals and outrages that would have sunk a normal president. But this isn't a normal president.

The nervous posturing of the trumpjugend and their older reichskult groomer-handlers is just that. They don’t have to admit that Mueller has already been devastating to Trump’s organization and reputation and that the rest of the report will only do more damage. We know. They don’t need to tell us how scared they are of the numerous other ongoing and imminent congressional and judicial investigations into the criminal-in-chief’s conduct. We know, and the trumptards are so high on the Kool aid, they don't care.


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Originally posted by GEEBERS:
So nice of you to notice. Do the words, "Can't indict a sitting president" sound familiar? Trump will do more damage to the GOP in office than out, imho. So - we'll see what the report says if they release it all.

Wasn't it interesting that when Trump went to Mar a Lago this weekend, he brought along his "Russian Collusion" lawyers? Was he tipped off? Curious.

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:09 PM

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Just, yanno, curious SECOND.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Republicans are growing more and more alarmed about Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/republicans-growing-alarmed-trumps-in
creasingly-erratic-behavior
/




Ya don't say?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=rawstory

Quote:

Sorry, but nothing matched your search terms. Please try again with different keywords.


Mediabiasfactcheck doesn't even seem to recognize rawstory as a news outlet.


One might ask if that's better or worse than only quoting extreme left biased websites.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Try again, 6ix, using https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/raw-story/

You gave up too quickly.

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Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:25 AM

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Another 19 posts today?

When will the Mueller Witch Hunt end?

And they'll still never dream up any Evidence.

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Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/raw-story/





lol. You beat me to it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol. You beat me to it.

Too liberal for you? George Will, the most conservative writer in the world, yet not fooled by Trump supporters, wrote about Trump: Populism, democracy’s degenerate byproduct, incubates hostility to people possessing specialized knowledge (aka “elites”), but senators can withhold consent from [Trump's] particularly egregious abuses of institutions that are particularly dependent on the perception of competence. The Cain and Moore nominations will be two more tests — of political courage, and of their institutional responsibility — for Senate Republicans to fail. The possible good news is that these two confirmation votes might bring us closer to the day when supine senators grow weary of being embarrassed and embarrassing.

More at www.joplinglobe.com/opinion/columns/george-will-fed-nominations-are-tw
o-more-tests-for-republicans/article_d0794d89-ec60-5bd5-83c7-51fe2b5668e9.html


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Republicans are growing more and more alarmed about Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior.

www.politico.com/story/2019/04/11/president-trump-senate-republicans-1
267012


GOP senators face an inflection point, as they weigh how hard to try to contain the president.

It’s an unusual time in Trump’s Washington, with a Senate Republican majority that’s been at odds with the president for months now — and with GOP senators increasingly comfortable in trying to ward off what they see as Trump’s worst impulses.

The Trump administration is facing pushback on far weightier issues than personnel.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) fumed on Wednesday after he pressed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on whether the United States has the authority to go to war with Iran, to which Pompeo replied that he’d “prefer to leave that to the lawyers.”

“He couldn’t give me a very good answer,” Paul said in an interview afterward. “You would think the secretary of State would have an opinion on the Constitution and declaration of war.”

The tensions between Trump and Senate Republicans have raged continuously for four months, an arc that intersects neatly with when Mick Mulvaney took the reins as the president's acting chief of staff and helped goad the president into a shutdown that lawmakers loathed — and then into a national emergency declaration that a dozen Republicans voted down on the Senate floor.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) concerns aren’t isolated to the president’s protectionist strategy. He had to rebut the president’s ruminations on wind turbines causing cancer just last week.

He’s not the only senator embroiled in multiple fights with the administration.

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) is pushing back on the sacking of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the Secret Service director and Immigration and Customs Enforcement nominee.

“It’s unfortunate to have so many vacancies and so little time for proper transition,” Romney said of DHS. “So it’s a very troubling setting.”

Romney also asserted that he will vote against Cain if he is nominated to the Fed, joining Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) in opposition. The swift anti-Cain blitz might cripple his nomination in the Senate — though Trump could go forward with him, Kobach or Cuccinelli anyway and test his sway with Senate Republicans.

The goal, though, is for Senate Republicans to stop the nominations before they are forced to vote on them.

“It’s just a pragmatic concern,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas). “It just saves a lot of potential embarrassment and difficulties if there’s consultation on the front end.”

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Republicans are growing more and more alarmed about Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/republicans-growing-alarmed-trumps-in
creasingly-erratic-behavior
/




Ya don't say?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=rawstory

Quote:

Sorry, but nothing matched your search terms. Please try again with different keywords.


Mediabiasfactcheck doesn't even seem to recognize rawstory as a news outlet.


One might ask if that's better or worse than only quoting extreme left biased websites.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Let me help. https://proliteracy.org/Get-Involved/Find-a-Program

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Friday, April 12, 2019 9:17 AM

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Russian accounts targeted Sanders voters to try to boost Trump after 2016 primaries: report
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/438576-thousands-of-russi
an-accounts-targeted-sanders-voters-to-help-elect

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A Dummies' Guide To What Dems Will Say When Mueller Report Is Released

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-11/dummies-guide-what-dems-will
-say-when-mueller-report-released

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:47 AM

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A Dummies' Guide To What Reps Will Say Before the Mueller Report Is Released:

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Originally posted by rue:

A Dummies' Guide To What Dems Will Say When Mueller Report Is Released






A Dummies' Guide To anti-US rhetoric:

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Originally posted by rue:
https://www.zerohedge.com...


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Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:58 AM

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I see your cartoon hit a sore spot, RUE. Because anyone who criticizes Democrats is (of course) anti-USA. Criticizing Democrats: It must be all Putin's fault! [/snark]

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Originally posted by rue:


A Dummies' Guide To What Dems Will Say When Mueller Report Is Released

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-11/dummies-guide-what-dems-will
-say-when-mueller-report-released



Anyway, I thought this was funny and too true:

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Russiagaters in 2017: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MUELLER KNOWS
Russiagaters in 2018: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MUELLER KNOWS
Russiagaters in 2019: Shut up Mueller, what would you know.
— Caitlin Johnstone ? (@caitoz) March 22, 2019

from this article

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/investigation-nation-mueller
-russiagate-fake-politics


which also contains ..


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Mueller's report will almost certainly disappoint you, and it's not his fault. It's your fault for buying into Trump's false narrative that it is Mueller's' job to prove "collusion," a nearly impossible bar for any prosecutor to clear.
My piece in @TIME: https://t.co/VQ2WhhC996
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 1, 2019


This is, of course, the weakest volley. It’s absurd, patent bad faith, for Russiagaters to pretend that they knew, thought, or suggested the Mueller investigation was irrelevant. It is they who have been insisting that the integrity and super-sleuthiness of the “revered” Robert Mueller himself was the thing that would nail Donald Trump for Russian collusion. To now deny that any of that was important only acknowledges how thoroughly they have been fooling the American people and/or themselves for two years. Either Adam Schiff had the goods on Trump’s traitorous Russian collusion two years ago, in which case he’s got a lot of explaining to do about why he’s been stringing us along with Mueller, or Schiff is just bluffing.



But even Russiagater skeptics fail to mention that the damage has already been done:

Under the guise of protecting us from "Russian influence", conservative and alternate sources are being silenced across the internet, as they have been eliminated and/or isolated from the M$M. As Obama's Rahm Emmanuel once said "Never let a good crisis go to waste", especially when it's a crisis that you have created yourself, one with multiple goals: Throw Trump from office, and/or effect the 2018 elections, and/or distract Trump from achieving his "make nice with Russia" goals, and/or appeal to the base, and/or corral the liberal internet giants into doing your censorship for you. They may have failed to get rid of Trump (so far) but they've succeeded in several other goals.



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