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Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 2:49 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Still not seeing Colbert's full throated apology.

Don't hold your breath. Maybe Hilliary didn't give this c@ckholster permission.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 5:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Take note, everyone. When Leftists are called out for being wrong, or making completely false claims, in their attempt to mock, ridicule and besmirch someone else, are proven wrong, they never, ever apologize.

They are cowards. Immature and utterly w/ out honor.

They double down and repeat the lie, mock more, and ridicule again.

Colbert did it , and is a coward for not coming forth and manning up to his false characterization of Trump.

Smollett did it , claiming his 100% fictional story being attacked, by MAGA supporters, was accurate. Even after the 2 ' attackers ' have fessed up to the staged crime.

Now Schiff-for-brains, who laughably is the chair of the Dem led Intel. Committee, is story telling again. Claims he and he alone has evidence that no one else has seen, that Mueller apparently didn't know about, that 40 FBI agents never got around to reviewing, after 2 + years ... yet this sniveling quim has the goods ?

Schiff-for-brains displays delusion and narcissism on a truly grand scale. He's a small peckered man longing for status and fame in compensation for his lack of ' substance '.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 7:58 AM

REAVERFAN


Let's get in the way-back machine and go to Clinton's impeachment.

Ken Starr hands in his voluminous report after a long wait. The AG, Janet Reno, takes the report, and writes a short summary of it saying the president did no wrong.

Settled. Nothing to see here. Move along...

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:17 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Let's get in the way-back machine and go to Clinton's impeachment.

Ken Starr hands in his voluminous report after a long wait. The AG, Janet Reno, takes the report, and writes a short summary of it saying the president did no wrong.

Settled. Nothing to see here. Move along...



I see that the fact that the Mueller report and whats in it is only being discussed by Trumps hand picked attorney general is lost to some. Not to worry reaver, the truth will be revealed when the democrats get their hands on it.

tick tock

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Let's get in the way-back machine and go to Clinton's impeachment.

Ken Starr hands in his voluminous report after a long wait. The AG, Janet Reno, takes the report, and writes a short summary of it saying the president did no wrong.

Settled. Nothing to see here. Move along...



I see that the fact that the Mueller report and whats in it is only being discussed by Trumps hand picked attorney general is lost to some. Not to worry reaver, the truth will be revealed when the democrats get their hands on it.

tick tock

T





There's supposed to be an apostrophe in what's. It's called a contraction.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:07 AM

THG


Shoo troll...

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:17 AM

THG


G, as you are aware, I've posted here what reputable news outlets uncovered about Trump, his campaign team and administration. Facts that kiki and the other Russian trolls here could only respond to by saying no collusion. That's because they could not argue against facts. I did opine on what the evidence ( facts ) enlightened us about. All of which stands as irrefutable today.

Who gives a shit about what the Russian trolls say. Really, who the fuck cares. All I would say to them is you're welcome. You're welcome we freed many of you from the grip of the Soviet Union so you could troll your saviors from a place of safety.



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Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Let's get in the way-back machine and go to Clinton's impeachment.

Ken Starr hands in his voluminous report after a long wait. The AG, Janet Reno, takes the report, and writes a short summary of it saying the president did no wrong.

Settled. Nothing to see here. Move along...



I see that the fact that the Mueller report and whats in it is only being discussed by Trumps hand picked attorney general is lost to some. Not to worry reaver, the truth will be revealed when the democrats get their hands on it.

tick tock




Question I have: does Mueller keep a copy of his report? An unredacted one so there's a way to compare and see what Barr and his people redact? I'm not sure about Maddow's contention that Mueller would have sent Barr the report already redacted for the instances that Barr cited, as if that was suspicious on Barr to claim it needed further blackouts. That doesn't sound accurate - I would imagine Mueller would send Barr a clean one.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:56 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Let's get in the way-back machine and go to Clinton's impeachment.

Ken Starr hands in his voluminous report after a long wait. The AG, Janet Reno, takes the report, and writes a short summary of it saying the president did no wrong.

Settled. Nothing to see here. Move along...

I see that the fact that the Mueller report and whats in it is only being discussed by Trumps hand picked attorney general is lost to some. Not to worry reaver, the truth will be revealed when the democrats get their hands on it.

tick tock

T

There's supposed to be an apostrophe in what's. It's called a contraction.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Attorney General should be capitalized.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Question I have: does Mueller keep a copy of his report? An unredacted one so there's a way to compare and see what Barr and his people redact? I'm not sure about Maddow's contention that Mueller would have sent Barr the report already redacted for the instances that Barr cited, as if that was suspicious on Barr to claim it needed further blackouts. That doesn't sound accurate - I would imagine Mueller would send Barr a clean one.

It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.

www.salon.com/2019/03/25/rep-devin-nunes-dismisses-special-counsel-rob
ert-muellers-final-report-we-can-just-burn-it-up_partner
/

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:10 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.



I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.



I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.



Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.

You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.

You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 1:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.

Anybody who is still undecided about Trump is making their decision on a coin flip. If the unredacted report makes the undecided lean in one direction, they won't maintain that direction. The winds of current events closer to the election will spin them around and around. "I'm undecided because I don't like either." By Nov 2020 they will go back to their coin toss mode of deciding who to vote for: what does the economy feel like? What is the weather? Which name comes first on the ballot? It is random with the undecided.
https://prospect.org/article/forecasting-follies

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 1:22 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Take note, everyone. When Leftists are called out for being wrong, or making completely false claims, in their attempt to mock, ridicule and besmirch someone else, are proven wrong, they never, ever apologize.

They are cowards. Immature and utterly w/ out honor.

They double down and repeat the lie, mock more, and ridicule again.

Colbert did it , and is a coward for not coming forth and manning up to his false characterization of Trump.

Smollett did it , claiming his 100% fictional story being attacked, by MAGA supporters, was accurate. Even after the 2 ' attackers ' have fessed up to the staged crime.

Now Schiff-for-brains, who laughably is the chair of the Dem led Intel. Committee, is story telling again. Claims he and he alone has evidence that no one else has seen, that Mueller apparently didn't know about, that 40 FBI agents never got around to reviewing, after 2 + years ... yet this sniveling quim has the goods ?

Schiff-for-brains displays delusion and narcissism on a truly grand scale. He's a small peckered man longing for status and fame in compensation for his lack of ' substance '.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I hear you, Rap, ETA: minus the claim about Schiff's pecker.

But I do think Pelosi is Schiff's beard in this. All of her calling on democrats to do the people's business and stop focusing on Trump has fallen, and is falling on deaf ears. Democrats but especially Schiff remain hyper-fixated on Trump. Now either everyone is treating Pelosi like a mousy substitute teacher and running amok while she meekly calls for attention over and over - which I doubt - or this is a plan to HIDE THAT THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY FAILING THE PEOPLE WHILE THEY PLAY POLITICAL GAMES. And this is all the more likely as Pelosi is defending Schiff.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 1:27 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Mueller Investagation (sic) Is Over

Yep - it's all over but for the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth ... and the severe grinding of mental gears.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 2:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Mueller Investagation (sic) Is Over

Yep - it's all over but for the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth ... and the severe grinding of mental gears.

You cannot possibly expect Trolls to spell correctly in a thread title.

Think of all the steam power generated by these Trolls overheating their tiny cerebral housings. We should adapt earmuffs to capture this energy.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 2:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.

I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up.

Says the Troll who had his tiny mind made up 2 years ago, along with all of the other Trolls and Fake News consumers.

How ironic and sad.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 3:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Says the Troll who had his tiny mind made up 2 years ago, along with all of the other Trolls and Fake News consumers.

How ironic and sad.

My good fortune depends upon predicting. I don't hope for the best nor do I wait for the worst to arrive then react too late to make a difference. You can do what you want and have the crappy life you deserve, JSF. That's not me.

Do the results so far look like the huge, sustained boom the Trump camp promised, or the brief sugar high predicted by the critics?

Trump is a special kind of leader. When things don’t go his way, when events fail to turn out as he promised, he always knows exactly what to do: Blame someone else. Sure enough, he’s now asserting that we’d be having a yuge economic boom, 3 percent growth, all that, if only the Federal Reserve hadn’t raised interest rates.

O. K., this is where you need to be able to hold two ideas in your head at the same time. Was the Fed wrong to raise rates? Probably yes. Does this account for the failure of the Trump tax cut? No.

More at www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/opinion/the-incredible-shrinking-trump-boom
.html


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Saturday, March 30, 2019 6:00 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Let's get in the way-back machine and go to Clinton's impeachment.

Ken Starr hands in his voluminous report after a long wait. The AG, Janet Reno, takes the report, and writes a short summary of it saying the president did no wrong.

Settled. Nothing to see here. Move along...



I see that the fact that the Mueller report and whats in it is only being discussed by Trumps hand picked attorney general is lost to some. Not to worry reaver, the truth will be revealed when the democrats get their hands on it.

tick tock




Question I have: does Mueller keep a copy of his report? An unredacted one so there's a way to compare and see what Barr and his people redact? I'm not sure about Maddow's contention that Mueller would have sent Barr the report already redacted for the instances that Barr cited, as if that was suspicious on Barr to claim it needed further blackouts. That doesn't sound accurate - I would imagine Mueller would send Barr a clean one.



Short answer G, definitely, 100% yes. There will always be an unredacted copy. Whether or not Mueller keeps one with him I doubt it.

Grand jury testimony has to be cleared for release by a judge before it can be released to the public. Not sure about congress getting it.

tick tock

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 6:21 PM

REAVERFAN


What's funny is that people expected Mueller, who has a long history of being a fascistic motherfucker, to suddenly be a good guy.

Mueller was a man who spread fatal myths about Iraqi WMDs, targeted and infiltrated radical environmental groups, concocted elaborate plots to entrap Muslims in fake terrorism cases and ran roughshod over basic constitutional rights while he was a top federal prosecutor and FBI director.

The fix was in. The Dems will investigate, but they're so bad at being effective.

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 6:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Why is this thread still going? Doesn't post after post of outraged denial and rationalization get kinda stale after a while?


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Saturday, March 30, 2019 8:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
What's funny is that people expected Mueller, who has a long history of being a fascistic motherfucker, to suddenly be a good guy.

Mueller was a man who spread fatal myths about Iraqi WMDs, targeted and infiltrated radical environmental groups, concocted elaborate plots to entrap Muslims in fake terrorism cases and ran roughshod over basic constitutional rights while he was a top federal prosecutor and FBI director.

The fix was in. The Dems will investigate, but they're so bad at being effective.



Now he gets it!

I've been saying that about Mueller since the beginning.

Maybe you didn't hear me because I'm a Nazi?

lol


Thanks for also proving my prediction right that you guys would turn on Mueller like you did on Comey too, Marcos.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 30, 2019 8:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.



I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.



Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.

You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.

You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.

That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 7:32 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.



I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.



Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.

You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.

You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.

That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.




Unredacted to congress, dolt.

I think you should just stay focused on helping pedophiles get their message out, Mr. Censorship is Censorship. Don't overheat that little brain of yours with too many challenges.

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.



I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.



Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.

You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.

You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.

That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.




Unredacted to congress, dolt.

I think you should just stay focused on helping pedophiles get their message out, Mr. Censorship is Censorship. Don't overheat that little brain of yours with too many challenges.



What the fuck are you talking about?

Here's your post. Show me where it says unredacted to Congress.

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.



That reads as if an unredacted report that the Undecideds could read would be persuasive. I don't give two shits if that's not what you meant.

Learn how to write.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:47 AM

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Long before special counsel Robert Mueller’s report found that the Trump campaign had not colluded with the Russian government, Felix Sater's name emerged in what seemed — on its face — to be direct evidence of such an effort.

“I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected,” Sater famously wrote in a November 2015 email to Michael Cohen, then Trump’s personal attorney, that was first published in the New York Times. “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it…I will get all of Putin’s team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

That wasn’t collusion, Sater told The Intercept in an interview last week. “It’s called marketing. It’s giving both sides what they want.”

Eventually, Sater was called in to explain that to the prosecutors in Mueller’s office. While he declined to discuss the details of that interview, he did describe an exchange with Andrew Weissmann, one of Mueller’s senior prosecutors, during the meeting.

“What the hell is it with these emails?” Weissmann asked, according to Sater. “You really know how to be on the front page, don’t you, Felix?”

If Weissmann’s tone sounds casual and even jocular, it might be because the two men have known each other for 20 years. Weissmann supervised the 1998 stock fraud case that originally brought Sater into the government’s orbit as a cooperator. He is not the only member of Mueller’s team who goes way back with Sater. FBI Special Agent William McCausland who worked on former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn’s prosecution, handled Sater as early as 2003, after he became an informant. (“One of the hardest-working and best FBI agents I’ve ever worked with,” Sater said of McCausland.) Other former Eastern District prosecutors who were detailed to the special counsel include Zainab Ahmad and Greg Andres, who served as chief of the office’s criminal division at the time Sater was sentenced.

Peter Carr, the spokesperson for the special counsel’s office, declined to comment.

Sater’s history as an informant who worked with members of the special counsel’s team, coupled with his position at the center of the Trump-Russia story, raises the question of whether the Russia investigation was, ultimately, a circular exercise.

More at https://theintercept.com/2019/03/31/felix-sater-trump-russia-mueller-r
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As Felix Sater struggled to get Trump Moscow off the ground, he discovered a problem with the Trump brand, he told The Intercept.

“It had no value,” he said. “They didn’t want to pay Trump the licensing fee because they’re like, ‘Who the hell is Trump in Russia? Who knows him?’”

The solution materialized nearly a decade later when Trump’s 2016 campaign began to get traction, Sater said.

“When he started running and he started saying good shit about Putin and Putin started saying good shit about him and he started to get great ink in Russia, I was like, ‘Perfect,’” Sater said. “This is probably a perfect opportunity to get a Trump Tower Moscow done.”

The potential conflicts of interest triggered by a leading presidential candidate doing a secret multimillion-dollar business deal with help from a foreign power didn’t concern him.

“I wasn’t running,” Sater said. “I don’t need to worry about the morality of, ‘should a candidate be involved in business?’”

He dismissed any notion that the deal “was trying to give leverage to the Russians so they could Manchurian candidate our president. I was trying to make money.”

Sater wasn’t the only one, he said. The Trump Organization planned a global expansion after the election, which Trump and everyone around him assumed that he would lose.

“They were sitting there thinking about the 27 towers and the 27 different places they were going to build after the election,” he said. “Do you honestly think they were sitting there and saying ‘Who’s going to get the West Wing and who’s going to get the East Wing?’”

The Trump Organization did not respond to a request for comment.

More at https://theintercept.com/2019/03/31/felix-sater-trump-russia-mueller-r
eport
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Donald Trump Claims Everyone Knew About Secret Russian Deal No One Knew About

Asked to comment on his former lawyer’s confession in federal court that the Trump Organization had secretly negotiated with the Russian government during the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump attempted to sell the American people an outrageous lie.

“Everybody knew about it, it was written about in newspapers, it was a well-known project,” Trump claimed, falsely, about his company’s covert effort, “during the early part of ’16 and I guess even before that,” to develop a luxury skyscraper with help from Putin’s office and a former general in Russia’s military intelligence service.

In fact, the existence of such a project, which was being negotiated in secret during the entire span of the Republican primary campaign — from at least October 2015, when Trump signed a letter of intent with a Russian developer, through January 2016, when Cohen called an aide to Putin’s spokesperson, until some time after Trump secured the nomination in June — was not known about or reported at the time. There was no indication in the outline of Cohen’s confession sketched out by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Thursday as to why the proposed deal was dropped, but the timeline might offer a clue. Cohen suddenly backed out of a trip to Russia arranged by the Kremlin on the afternoon of June 14, 2016 — about three hours after the Washington Post revealed that Russian hackers had penetrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee and stolen documents related to the election.

The Moscow project only became public knowledge the following year, after Trump’s inauguration as president. It was briefly mentioned in a 2017 New York Times report about another covert scheme also involving Cohen and Felix Sater, a convicted former FBI informant and longtime fixer for the Trump Organization with deep ties in Russia.

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/29/donald-trump-claims-everyone-knew-
secret-russian-deal-no-one-knew
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Sunday, March 31, 2019 10:20 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

What's funny is that people expected Mueller, who has a long history of being a fascistic motherfucker, to suddenly be a good guy.

Mueller was a man who spread fatal myths about Iraqi WMDs, targeted and infiltrated radical environmental groups, concocted elaborate plots to entrap Muslims in fake terrorism cases and ran roughshod over basic constitutional rights while he was a top federal prosecutor and FBI director.

The fix was in. The Dems will investigate, but they're so bad at being effective.



Wow reaver, the perspective you have is not workable. Wait for it, it's coming. Fighting Trump with the same tactics that he employs destroys the rule of law and other institutions needed to have a successful democracy.

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Wow reaver, the perspective you have is not workable. Wait for it, it's coming. Fighting Trump with the same tactics that he employs destroys the rule of law and other institutions needed to have a successful democracy.

The only rule of law that counts is election day on Tuesday of November. All the investigations are just fuel for gossip about Trump because the 2019-2021 Senate term will never remove Trump. Only general election voters might do the job that GOP Senators have sworn to their Republican primary voters never to do.

Republican Senator Jeff Flake quit the Senate because GOP primary voters would not vote for him. Flake would vote to remove Trump, but no other Republican Senators will.
"Ex-GOP senator Flake hopes a Democrat beats Trump in 2020"
www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/30/ex-gop-senator-flake-hopes-a-democ
rat-beats-trump-in-2020/23703093
/

So what lessons should we take from history about prospects to impeach and remove Trump? There are three: 1. barring some truly amazing revelation (maybe videotape of Donald Trump taking money from a Putin agent) a Republican-controlled Senate is not going to remove him from office; 2. conservative domination of the president’s party will increase its solidarity with him; and 3. the atmosphere of partisan and ideological polarization will make defections from Trump even less likely.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/republican-solidarity-will-prot
ect-trump-from-impeachment.html


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Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:26 PM

THG


I see a battle between two forces here and both misrepresent the ideals this country is building upon. And yes, the progress is substantial .

Both are wrong. If either side got what they wanted, we too would live in a totalitarianism state like the Russians. No fucking thank you...

tick tock


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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I see a battle between two forces here and both misrepresent the ideals this country is building upon. And yes, the progress is substantial .

Both are wrong. If either side got what they wanted, we too would live in a totalitarianism state like the Russians. No fucking thank you...

tick tock

Remember the Iraq War? Huge number of dead Iraqi civilians? No WMD? No investigation into Bush and Cheney for lying America into that war? Don't lose focus on those half million dead women and children. And yet there are very few Americans that want justice for Bush and Cheney. Trump is not worse than Bush or Cheney and Trump is not going to be punished. The vast majority of Americans don't care enough to punish Bush/Cheney and they won't care to punish Trump.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 1:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I see a battle between two forces here and both misrepresent the ideals this country is building upon. And yes, the progress is substantial .

Both are wrong. If either side got what they wanted, we too would live in a totalitarianism state like the Russians. No fucking thank you...

tick tock

Remember the Iraq War? Huge number of dead Iraqi civilians? No WMD? No investigation into Bush and Cheney for lying America into that war? Don't lose focus on those half million dead women and children. And yet there are very few Americans that want justice for Bush and Cheney. Trump is not worse than Bush or Cheney and Trump is not going to be punished. The vast majority of Americans don't care enough to punish Bush/Cheney and they won't care to punish Trump.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Careful, you two.

You're actually starting to say stuff that I agree with.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:24 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I see a battle between two forces here and both misrepresent the ideals this country is building upon. And yes, the progress is substantial .

Both are wrong. If either side got what they wanted, we too would live in a totalitarianism state like the Russians. No fucking thank you...

tick tock

Remember the Iraq War? Huge number of dead Iraqi civilians? No WMD? No investigation into Bush and Cheney for lying America into that war? Don't lose focus on those half million dead women and children. And yet there are very few Americans that want justice for Bush and Cheney. Trump is not worse than Bush or Cheney and Trump is not going to be punished. The vast majority of Americans don't care enough to punish Bush/Cheney and they won't care to punish Trump.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



And a few hundred years ago we had a civil war that resulted in the freeing of the slaves. In the 60's blacks were still being hosed in the streets. America is a work in progress, emphasis on progress. Try and realize the times you live in and work towards a better future. Let's not relitigate the past over and over so much we're stuck there. At this point I still believe America is the worlds first best hope.

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

And a few hundred years ago we had a civil war that resulted in the freeing of the slaves. In the 60's blacks were still being hosed in the streets. America is a work in progress, emphasis on progress. Try and realize the times you live in and work towards a better future. Let's not relitigate the past over and over so much we're stuck there. At this point I still believe America is the worlds first best hope.

Jefferson Davis, Confederate President, was not executed for treason. Nor were 24 other U.S. Senators from the Confederate States executed. Among the not executed traitors were thousands of U.S. Army men such as Confederate General Robert E. Lee. If anybody in American history deserved death, those guys did. But nothing happened because the majority of Americans couldn't imagine it. If those treasonous monsters didn't get the justice they deserved, then Americans will forgive Trump for lesser crimes than murdering hundreds of thousands of loyal American citizens during a Civil War.

www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/expulsion_cases/CivilWar_E
xpulsion.htm#senate_action


There were more than 4300 documented lynchings of African Americans between 1877 and 1950 concentrated in 12 Southern states, but several other states are now covered. How many lynchers were brought to justice? None. Trump wanted to execute The Central Park Five. No jail time for Trump on that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Memorial_for_Peace_and_Just
ice

www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/reality-check-donald-trump-central-par
k-5/index.html


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Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It makes no difference to Trump voters what is inside the unredacted report. The top Republican on the House Intelligence panel called Mueller’s investigation “fraudulent” and “partisan”.

If you know even one Trump voter who will change their mind after seeing the report, aren't you lucky. Where I live, they already made up their minds from last week, after being told by Trump what to believe, until the end of time or until Trump changes his mind, whichever comes first.


I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.


Good luck with that. Mueller's report, unredacted, would drop thousands of names of people who were investigated but not indicted with anything. It would be a huge breech of privacy that would open them and their families to the hate of the extreme left, both online and in the real world.

You're never going to see an unredacted Mueller report.

You'd best go back to begging Trump for his tax returns. That's a much more plausible scenario.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Also, maybe you can get Tom Arnold to release those taped conversations he's been saying he has of Trump saying a whole bunch of racist shit too.

That's also a much more plausible scenario than an unredacted Mueller report.


Unredacted to congress, dolt.

I think you should just stay focused on helping pedophiles get their message out, Mr. Censorship is Censorship. Don't overheat that little brain of yours with too many challenges.


What the fuck are you talking about?

Here's your post. Show me where it says unredacted to Congress.
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I don't really care about Trump voters. As you say, their minds are made up. As Trump said before he was even the nominee, "I could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue and I get away with it."

I don't really care what Trump says either, for that matter. After 2 years of him lying relentlessly or being mental, it's, "Tell us something we don't know."

I do care about the 45% of Undecideds. Mueller's report - unredacted - could be persuasive.


That reads as if an unredacted report that the Undecideds could read would be persuasive. I don't give two shits if that's not what you meant.

Learn how to write.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It seems G-String must be gay. He really, really likes to get butt-slammed. Over and over.

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THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

And a few hundred years ago we had a civil war that resulted in the freeing of the slaves. In the 60's blacks were still being hosed in the streets. America is a work in progress, emphasis on progress. Try and realize the times you live in and work towards a better future. Let's not relitigate the past over and over so much we're stuck there. At this point I still believe America is the worlds first best hope.

Jefferson Davis, Confederate President, was not executed for treason. Nor were 24 other U.S. Senators from the Confederate States executed. Among the not executed traitors were thousands of U.S. Army men such as Confederate General Robert E. Lee. If anybody in American history deserved death, those guys did. But nothing happened because the majority of Americans couldn't imagine it. If those treasonous monsters didn't get the justice they deserved, then Americans will forgive Trump for lesser crimes than murdering hundreds of thousands of loyal American citizens during a Civil War.

www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/expulsion_cases/CivilWar_E
xpulsion.htm#senate_action


There were more than 4300 documented lynchings of African Americans between 1877 and 1950 concentrated in 12 Southern states, but several other states are now covered. How many lynchers were brought to justice? None. Trump wanted to execute The Central Park Five. No jail time for Trump on that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Memorial_for_Peace_and_Just
ice

www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/reality-check-donald-trump-central-par
k-5/index.html


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You've made my point. All that's left to say is let it go, move on and learn to look for the good. It's to easy to sit on a pious throne when anonymous. We get enough of that from the russian trolls here.

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Sunday, March 31, 2019 6:42 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
All that's left to say is let it go, move on ... russian trolls ...
T

You've moved on from RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!?

Really? Is that why you keep bringing it up? Yanno, I'm betting myself you can't post 10 posts in a row in rwe without using the words Russia, Russian, commie, Putin, Kremlin, or FSB.

And sheesh, if this is you 'moved-on', I'd hate to see you in full florid RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! psychosis, then!

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

You've made my point. All that's left to say is let it go, move on and learn to look for the good. It's to easy to sit on a pious throne when anonymous. We get enough of that from the russian trolls here.

If you see the movie Hell or High Water, Chris Pine plays the Donald Trump character. www.metacritic.com/movie/hell-or-high-water

I'll spoil it for you. Chris Pine is a bank robber and murderer (although he does not pull the trigger) and the stolen loot is invested in oil wells to make him fabulously wealthy. At the end, Jeff Bridges, the Texas Ranger, has a hunch that Chris Pine was the mastermind behind a string of robberies, but he doesn't have the proof. There is not enough to convict in a courtroom drama. The movie ends. Nothing is resolved. Chris Pine lives happily ever after. Or maybe not. It all depends on if retired Jeff Bridges doesn't shoot Chris. We never know what Bridges decides to do, mostly because Bridges is not absolutely, positively sure Chris Pine did it. And Bridges might not be willing to kill handsome and well spoken Chris Pine, although half the audience knows he deserves to die and the other half think it is good that Chris Pine got away with the money.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 1:48 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance."

You seem to be moving towards anger.

Well, that's progress, I guess!!


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance."

You seem to be moving towards anger.

Well, that's progress, I guess!!

I was comparing Trump to Chris Pine, the bank robber who attained enormous wealth and got away from Texas Ranger Jeff Bridges, in the movie Hell or High Water. But Trump might be the other bank robber who does not think ahead, the stupid brother of Chris Pine. We will find out which brother Trump is. How stupid is Trump if he closes the border with Mexico? That's a plan that will work about as well as the 35 day government shutdown to build a Mexican Wall. My dependable Trump voters think both plans will/would work if Trump just kept/keeps things shutdown until Congress/Mexico gives Trump what he wants.
www.metacritic.com/movie/hell-or-high-water

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Monday, April 1, 2019 8:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance."

You seem to be moving towards anger.

Well, that's progress, I guess!!


-----------
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .




lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:22 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
G: "I think you should just stay focused on helping pedophiles get their message out, Mr. Censorship is Censorship. Don't overheat that little brain of yours with too many challenges."

What the fuck are you talking about?




Aren't you the "Censorship is Censorship" champion? Since you can't be bothered to think things through, you found yourself defending pedophiles' rights to harass kids on a fourm. Good one, Nancy.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Here's your post. Show me where it says unredacted to Congress.



Show me where it says unredacted to the public.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That reads as if an unredacted report that the Undecideds could read would be persuasive. I don't give two shits if that's not what you meant.



"I don't care about the meaning of anything!" What a whiner.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Learn how to write.



Learn how to think.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:23 AM

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Trump investigation: Russia collusion evidence detailed by Schiff in damning address in Congress
House intelligence committee chair responds to letter by Republicans calling for his resignation
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ru
ssia-collusion-mueller-report-adam-schiff-speech-congress-a8844136.html?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com


My colleagues may think it's ok that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what was described as the Russian government's effort to help the Trump campaign. You may think that's ok.

My colleagues may think it's ok that when that was offered to the son of the President, who had a pivotal role in that campaign, that the son did not call the FBI, that he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help. No; instead that son said that he would love the help of the Russians. You might think it's ok that he took that meeting.

You might think it's okay that Paul Manafort, the campaign chair, someone with great experience in running campaigns, also took that meeting.

You might think it's ok that the President's son in law also took that meeting.

You might think it's ok that they concealed it from the public.

You might think it's ok that their only disappointment after that meeting was that the dirt they received on Hillary Clinton wasn't better. You might think that's ok.

You might think it's ok that when it was discovered a year later that they lied about that meeting and said it was about adoptions. You might think it's ok that the President is reported to have helped dictate that lie. You might think that's ok.

I don't.

You might think it's ok that the campaign chairman of a presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russian oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness. You might that that's ok.

I don't.

You might think it's ok that that campaign chairman offered polling data, campaign polling data, to someone linked to Russian intelligence.

I don't think that's ok!

You might think it's ok that the President himself called on Russia to hack his opponent's emails if they were listening.

You might think it's ok that later that day in fact the Russians attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign.

I don't think that's ok.

You might think it's ok that the President's son in law sought to establish a secret back-channel of communications to the Russians through a Russian diplomatic facility.

I don't think that's ok.

ou might think it's ok that an associate of the President made direct contact with the GRU through Guccifer 2 and wikileaks, which is considered a hostile intelligence agency.

You might think it's ok that a senior campaign official was instructed to reach that associate and find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say in terms of dirt on his opponent.

You might think it's ok that the National Security Advisor designate secretly conferred with the Russian ambassador about undermining US sanctions, and you might think it's ok that he lied about it to the FBI.

You might think that's all ok! You might think that's just what you need to do to win!

But I don't think it's ok.

I think it's immoral,

I think it's unethical,

I think it's unpatriotic, and yes,

I think it's corrupt and evidence of collusion.

Now I have always said that whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter. Whether the special counsel can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the proof of that crime would be up to the Special Counsel and I would accept his decision, and I do. He is a good and honorable man and a good prosecutor. But I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, is ok. And the day we do think that's ok is the day we will look back and say America lost its way.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:41 AM

THG


I know I posted the video here. It's also why I say wait for it. It's all in the report and then some. When Congress gets people to testify in public hearing, hearings where they need to explain all this shit, heads will roll.

tick tock
T



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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump investigation: Russia collusion evidence detailed by Schiff in damning address in Congress
House intelligence committee chair responds to letter by Republicans calling for his resignation
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ru
ssia-collusion-mueller-report-adam-schiff-speech-congress-a8844136.html?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com


My colleagues may think it's ok that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what was described as the Russian government's effort to help the Trump campaign. You may think that's ok.

My colleagues may think it's ok that when that was offered to the son of the President, who had a pivotal role in that campaign, that the son did not call the FBI, that he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help. No; instead that son said that he would love the help of the Russians. You might think it's ok that he took that meeting.

You might think it's okay that Paul Manafort, the campaign chair, someone with great experience in running campaigns, also took that meeting.

You might think it's ok that the President's son in law also took that meeting.

You might think it's ok that they concealed it from the public.

You might think it's ok that their only disappointment after that meeting was that the dirt they received on Hillary Clinton wasn't better. You might think that's ok.

You might think it's ok that when it was discovered a year later that they lied about that meeting and said it was about adoptions. You might think it's ok that the President is reported to have helped dictate that lie. You might think that's ok.

I don't.

You might think it's ok that the campaign chairman of a presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russian oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness. You might that that's ok.

I don't.

You might think it's ok that that campaign chairman offered polling data, campaign polling data, to someone linked to Russian intelligence.

I don't think that's ok!

You might think it's ok that the President himself called on Russia to hack his opponent's emails if they were listening.

You might think it's ok that later that day in fact the Russians attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign.

I don't think that's ok.

You might think it's ok that the President's son in law sought to establish a secret back-channel of communications to the Russians through a Russian diplomatic facility.

I don't think that's ok.

ou might think it's ok that an associate of the President made direct contact with the GRU through Guccifer 2 and wikileaks, which is considered a hostile intelligence agency.

You might think it's ok that a senior campaign official was instructed to reach that associate and find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say in terms of dirt on his opponent.

You might think it's ok that the National Security Advisor designate secretly conferred with the Russian ambassador about undermining US sanctions, and you might think it's ok that he lied about it to the FBI.

You might think that's all ok! You might think that's just what you need to do to win!

But I don't think it's ok.

I think it's immoral,

I think it's unethical,

I think it's unpatriotic, and yes,

I think it's corrupt and evidence of collusion.

Now I have always said that whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter. Whether the special counsel can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the proof of that crime would be up to the Special Counsel and I would accept his decision, and I do. He is a good and honorable man and a good prosecutor. But I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, is ok. And the day we do think that's ok is the day we will look back and say America lost its way.





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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:45 AM

THG


Here it is reaver. I'm going to watch it again myself. It's inspirational.

T







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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:52 AM

REAVERFAN


School the traitors, Adam!

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:57 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

School the traitors, Adam!



Agreed buddy, agreed...

T



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Monday, April 1, 2019 11:04 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

School the traitors, Adam!



Agreed buddy, agreed...

Traitors think themselves Patriots:
Trump campaign unveils ‘Pencil-neck Adam Schiff’ T-shirts for sale
https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/official-mr-pencil-neck-limited
-edition-tee


The Confederate traitors would have sold T-shirts mocking Abraham Lincoln as a pencil-neck.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 1, 2019 11:28 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance."

You seem to be moving towards anger.

Well, that's progress, I guess!!

Don't be easily confused.
Progress by Trolls is doubtful.

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