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Bob Woodward’s New Book, ‘Fear’
Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:28 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:52 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you have a warped view of Americans. Like here, you don't see people for who they really are, you're just arguing with the "Texas Republican" cardboard cutout that you have in your head. Maybe you should get out of Texas once in a while.
Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All of my family that has healthcare is now paying over 400% more for it than they were before Obamacare came out, and their deductibles are outrageous. It's not that nobody cares, it's that nobody want's to spend their entire paycheck for insurance while other people don't pay anything. Don't talk about money issues, stupid. Nobody want's to hear any virtue signalling from your rich dumb ass. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:07 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: SECOND, you have a warped view of Americans. Like here, you don't see people for who they really are, you're just arguing with the "Texas Republican" cardboard cutout that you have in your head. Maybe you should get out of Texas once in a while -SIGNY And maybe you don't know that the American government has steadfastly refused to take the step that 124 other states have of ratifying the Rome Statute and thus becoming a member of the International Criminal Court. - SECOND
Quote:How about this for a working hypothesis: You and your relatives get screwed over because you are lazy morons and cowards?- SECOND
Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All of my family that has healthcare is now paying over 400% more for it than they were before Obamacare came out, and their deductibles are outrageous. It's not that nobody cares, it's that nobody want's to spend their entire paycheck for insurance while other people don't pay anything. Don't talk about money issues, stupid. Nobody want's to hear any virtue signalling from your rich dumb ass. Do Right, Be Right. :)How about this for a working hypothesis: You and your relatives get screwed over because you are lazy morons and cowards? It fits the facts. I haven't followed any of your blood around all day to see their decisions, but if they are anything like you, they are constantly being cheated or swindled and they are not aggressive enough to stop it. Or even smart enough to understand what is happening. They are certain they are poor and it couldn't be their fault! It must be the Federal Government! If they were smarter, they would look for the fault somewhere within their state or with their employer or within themselves. And then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, you fucking idiot. Don't go watch TV to take your mind off of the problem. Come up with a solution you can implement today. The bigger and more violent, the better. Don't expect voting once every two years to make a difference. (to be more reasonable: move at least 100 miles away from wherever you live and start again with a fresh plan; make new friends; try something different; don't watch TV to numb your brain)
Thursday, September 13, 2018 6:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quit your virtue signalling bullshit. Especially when you constantly undermine it with posts like the one I just quoted. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:37 PM
Quote:"As I posted, the Trump administration is cloaked in unpredictability; and I think this is deliberate."- SIGNY Really? All of this deliberate? The resignations as well?- GSTRING
Quote: The guilty pleas all right on schedule? What a strategy!- GSTRING
Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second:
Quote:Trump wanted to print money to repay the national debt. That’s bananas.
Quote:Bob Woodward's book, ‘Fear’, reports the following exchange occurred between Trump and Gary Cohn, the former director of the National Economic Council, while discussing the national debt: Trump: “Just run the presses—print money.” Cohn: “You don’t get to do it that way. We have huge deficits and they matter. The government doesn’t keep a balance sheet like that.”
Quote:Cohn, writes Woodward, was “astounded at Trump’s lack of basic understanding.” The president has accused Woodward of fabricating quotes. But while Cohn has said the book “does not accurately portray” his experience of the White House, he hasn’t denied that any specific exchanges took place, as Axios notes. So why is Trump’s suggestion a big deal? Throughout his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump vowed to slash US national debt and balance the federal budget. Not only has he failed to do so—his exchange with Cohn suggests he doesn’t even understand how national debt works.
Quote:Trump proposes to print his way out of debt, directly fund government spending with money the government creates.
Quote:It’s certainly possible to do this — in theory, at least.
Quote:Since the global breakdown of the gold standard in the 1970s, there’s nothing backing most currencies anymore — which means there’s no clear limit on how much money governments can issue. So, sure, if a country wants to spend more than it earns, its treasury could indeed fire up the mints and crank out crisp new bills to pay off those old debts (or, more accurately, it could create the cash electronically). The US could, say, pay wages for federal workers or pay Social Security and Medicare in a few keystrokes — by simply adding a credit to those accounts.
Quote:Why that would cause a financial crisis can be found at https://qz.com/1387565/
Quote:If you want to know what can happen in a financial crisis not caused by printing money, there is this article: www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-bushs-quiet-role-in-the-financial-crisis-deserves-attention-now/ar-BBNewQj?ocid=spartanntp
Quote:When the next crisis rolls around, we will have Trump. He might be stubbornly slow to react because crisis management often requires doing the opposite of what the public demands.
Sunday, September 16, 2018 12:42 AM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Is he stupid, or is he evil. Pick one. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:14 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:If the president can use anon sources then why can't the press?
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Is he stupid, or is he evil. Pick one. Do Right, Be Right. :)Both. There are smart evil people, but Trump is not smart. He's just another rich boy with no sense of anything outside his own ego. He'd have carried on with his lame life, but he had enough ego to run for president, egged on by Putin. Trump will crash and burn. Whatever happens makes Putin stronger. He is the most powerful person in the world today. And he's a ruthless tyrant.
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:If the president can use anon sources then why can't the press? Oooo, good point, Captain. Every time Trump opens his mouth and says, "...many people have said." and "I saw hundreds of Muslims cheering, with no proof or collaborating accounts. He makes completely false statements all the time. The only true thing coming out of his mouth is Hillary and Obama's names (his go-to phrase). sgg
Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:07 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not a good point. Call the bullshit wherever you see it. Don't let anybody get away with it. Anon sources = no sources.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I probably call the President out on his bullshit just as much as anybody here does.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Dude was so full of promise, but just like all the rest of them it seems that he was just full of shit.
Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:28 PM
THG
Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:41 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:24 PM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not a good point. Call the bullshit wherever you see it. Don't let anybody get away with it. Anon sources = no sources. And that's bullsh*t. If people can't give up what they know without giving up their privacy you won't find the truth a million out of a million and 1 times. Think it through - are you going to risk losing your job to tell the truth about how your co-workers are being abused? Yeah, sorry dude, it just makes sense. "Witness protection?"
Quote:^ The dumbest & funniest thing ever posted on this forum. You're delusional.
Quote:Those darn Reality TV stars just keep letting you down, huh?
Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:20 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 10:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: For all the bitching and whining about how this country is doomed under Trump, you'd think we'd find at least one or two legitimate heroes who would do that. Like Nike said about Kapernick "Believe in Something. Even if it means sacrificing everything." Plenty of people have just quit their cushy government jobs since Trump took office. Might as well go out with a bang.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I call Trump on all of his actual bullshit. Not the Russian Bogeyman and other ghost stories you're always droning on about and the other stupid reasons your Wal-Mart American Flag is sitting in a closet right now.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Those darn Reality TV stars just keep letting you down, huh?
Monday, September 17, 2018 12:06 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 12:11 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 12:14 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 2:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Looks like you guys might have to set that impeachment clock back for reality savings time.
Monday, September 17, 2018 3:56 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 7:12 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Bob Woodward’s New Book, ‘Fear’" How shall I describe the book? - a noisy empty barrel? a fart in an empty pair of pants? a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing? So many choices ...
Monday, September 17, 2018 9:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: It appears kiki liked the book. T
Quote:Dowd remained convinced that Mueller never had a Russian case or an obstruction case. He was looking for the perjury trap. And in a brutally honest self-evaluation, he believed that Mueller had played him, and the president, for suckers in order to get their cooperation on witnesses and documents. Dowd was disappointed in Mueller, pulling such a sleight of hand. After 47 years, Dowd knew the game, knew prosecutors. They built cases. With all the testimony and documents, Mueller could string together something that would look bad. Maybe they had something new and damning as he now more than half-suspected. Maybe some witness like Flynn had changed his testimony. Things like that happened and that could change the ball game dramatically. Former top aide comes clean, admits to lying, turns on the president. Dowd didn’t think so but he had to worry and consider the possibility. Some things were clear and many were not in such a complex, tangled investigation. There was no perfect X-ray, no tapes, no engineer’s drawing. Dowd believed that the president had not colluded with Russia or obstructed justice. But in the man and his presidency Dowd had seen the tragic flaw. In the political back-and-forth, the evasions, the denials, the tweeting, the obscuring, crying “Fake News,” the indignation, Trump had one overriding problem that Dowd knew but could not bring himself to say to the president: “You’re a fucking liar.”
Quote:(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
Monday, September 17, 2018 10:02 PM
Monday, September 17, 2018 10:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Looks like you guys might have to set that impeachment clock back for reality savings time. Aww, no answers? You can only squeeze out one tiny little lol brain fart? Guess I'll just assume that you: 1. now understand the importance of anon sources. 2. understand that people have sacrificed a great deal to call Trump out. 3. You don't call Trump out as much as anybody here. 4. You have no idea what Trump's connections to Russia are, or what Mueller knows.
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: You all keep posting away AS IF YOU KNOW HOW THIS WILL TURN OUT. You don't. Which is why I think you're all idiots.
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:33 AM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:46 AM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:15 AM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't bother answering stupid questions anymore. I just laugh at them.
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:22 AM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: In another book: Trump’s Penis Looks Like Toad From Mario Kart, Says Stormy Daniels https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-penis-looks-like-toad-from-mario-kart-says-stormy-daniels
Quote:Just before 10 a.m. on July 20, a stifling, cloudless summer Thursday six months into his presidency, Donald Trump crossed the Potomac River to the Pentagon. The Tank had its appeal. Trump loved the room. Sometimes known as the Gold Room for its carpet and curtains, it is ornate and solemn, essentially a private, high-security retreat reflecting decades of history. Mattis and Cohn organized the presentations as part history lesson and part geostrategic showdown. It was also a belated effort to address the looming question: How does this administration establish its policy priorities and stick to them? McMaster did not attend because he had a family obligation. Maps depicting American commitments around the world—military deployments, troops, nuclear weapons, diplomatic posts, ports, intelligence assets, treaties and even trade deals—filled two large wall screens, telling the story of the United States in the world. Even countries where the U.S. had ports and flyover rights were shown, as were key radar and other surveillance installations. “The great gift of the greatest generation to us,” Mattis opened, “is the rules-based, international democratic order.” This global architecture brought security, stability and prosperity. Bannon sat off to the side, a backbencher with a line of sight to the president. He knew this globalist worldview too well. He viewed it as a kind of fetish. His own obsession was still America First. This is going to be fun, Bannon thought, as Mattis made the case that the organizing principles of the past were still workable and necessary. There it was—the beating heart of the problem, Bannon thought. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson followed. “This is what has kept the peace for 70 years,” the former Texas oilman said. It was more of the old world order to Bannon: expensive, limitless engagements, promises made and kept. Trump was shaking his head, disagreeing, although he did not say anything. Cohn spoke next. He made the case for free trade: Mexico. Canada. Japan. Europe. South Korea. He presented the import and export data. We’re a huge exporter of agriculture products, about $130 billion a year, he noted. We need these countries to buy our agricultural products. The whole middle of the United States is basically farmers, he said. Most of them were Trump voters. U.S. arms deals abroad amounted to $75.9 billion in fiscal year 2017. It’s no mistake that we’ve got a lot of military aircraft at the same airport in Singapore where they buy a lot of Boeing aircraft, Cohn said. It’s no mistake that we’ve got enormous intelligence operations out of Singapore. It’s no mistake that our naval fleet goes in and out of there to refuel and resupply. Trade deficits were growing the U.S. economy, Cohn asserted. “I don’t want to hear that,” Trump said. “It’s all bullshit!”
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't bother answering stupid questions anymore. I just laugh at them. Right, you'd prefer to just make stupid statements! I'm guessing you don't answer simple questions because they show you to be wrong. Provably, irrefutably, obviously wrong. Anon sources are can be key to finding the truth - it's not complicated. You shouldn't be afraid to show you understand that, but you won't. Just like SIGGY and JSF, you'll make excuses and run off to the next erroneous statement. Logic and honesty - you could care less about those, you have a different driving force making you make such obviously incorrect statements. Do you know what it is? I don't. It'd be interesting if you examined your motivations and let us know. I'm guessing it starts with Pride.
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:09 PM
Quote:In another book: Trump’s Penis Looks Like Toad From Mario Kart, Says Stormy Daniels https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-penis-looks-like-toad-from-mario-kart-says-stormy-Daniels
Quote:From Chapter 27 Just before 10 a.m. on July 20, a stifling, cloudless summer Thursday six months into his presidency, Donald Trump crossed the Potomac River to the Pentagon. The Tank had its appeal. Trump loved the room. Sometimes known as the Gold Room for its carpet and curtains, it is ornate and solemn, essentially a private, high-security retreat reflecting decades of history. Mattis and Cohn organized the presentations as part history lesson and part geostrategic showdown. It was also a belated effort to address the looming question: How does this administration establish its policy priorities and stick to them? McMaster did not attend because he had a family obligation. Maps depicting American commitments around the world—military deployments, troops, nuclear weapons, diplomatic posts, ports, intelligence assets, treaties and even trade deals—filled two large wall screens, telling the story of the United States in the world. Even countries where the U.S. had ports and flyover rights were shown, as were key radar and other surveillance installations. “The great gift of the greatest generation to us,” Mattis opened, “is the rules-based, international democratic order.” This global architecture brought security, stability and prosperity. Bannon sat off to the side, a backbencher with a line of sight to the president. He knew this globalist worldview too well. He viewed it as a kind of fetish. His own obsession was still America First. This is going to be fun, Bannon thought, as Mattis made the case that the organizing principles of the past were still workable and necessary. There it was—the beating heart of the problem, Bannon thought. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson followed. “This is what has kept the peace for 70 years,” the former Texas oilman said. It was more of the old world order to Bannon: expensive, limitless engagements, promises made and kept. Trump was shaking his head, disagreeing, although he did not say anything. Cohn spoke next. He made the case for free trade: Mexico. Canada. Japan. Europe. South Korea. He presented the import and export data. We’re a huge exporter of agriculture products, about $130 billion a year, he noted. We need these countries to buy our agricultural products. The whole middle of the United States is basically farmers, he said. Most of them were Trump voters. U.S. arms deals abroad amounted to $75.9 billion in fiscal year 2017. It’s no mistake that we’ve got a lot of military aircraft at the same airport in Singapore where they buy a lot of Boeing aircraft, Cohn said. It’s no mistake that we’ve got enormous intelligence operations out of Singapore. It’s no mistake that our naval fleet goes in and out of there to refuel and resupply. Trade deficits were growing the U.S. economy, Cohn asserted. “I don’t want to hear that,” Trump said. “It’s all bullshit!”
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:03 PM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:34 PM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:39 PM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Your problem is that due to all the revelations about Trump and his cronies you are stuck with your last line of defense, no collusion." You idiot. It's what I said at the very start, many, many, MANY months ago. I said I thought they would find dirty business dealings and business corruption - but no collusion.
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:52 PM
Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:14 PM
Quote:It's fun to watch you dissemble.
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:39 PM
Quote:Well, at least I think I know why this "adults in the room" meme was being pushed, because it didn't make sense from a Republican Party standpoint because AFA the elections are concerned, it would throw it to the Dems. That would be a real foot-shot, so clearly, the goal wasn't about the elections. Nope, I think the meme is being pushed to drum up popular support for a "coup" by open insubordination. I'm deeply grateful to SECOND for publishing part of Woodward's book, because it offered me a chance to see what kind of nonsense the "adults in the room" were spouting. Now I know not to believe a jot of what they say, or what is published on their behalf.- SIGNY
Quote: FBI, DOJ To Defy Trump Order; Redactions Planned As Top 'Deep State' Dems Demand Insubordination
Quote:BI, DOJ Plan Redactions Despite Trump’s Document Order
Quote:"I Don't Have An Attorney General": Trump Blasts Sessions, Says FBI Is A "Cancer In Our Country"
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:35 PM
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:11 PM
Quote: In Secret Calls, Putin Cultivated Trump’s Anger at the “Deep State” https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/in-secret-calls-putin-cultivated-trumps-anger-at-the-deep-state Yet more evidence that Vladimir Putin has continued to ply President Trump with opposition to US intelligence and the so-called “deep state” during their conversations since President Trump entered the White House. Not surprising and yet stunning passage in this excerpt from Greg Miller’s new Trump book … Trump’s admiration for the leader of Russia was inexplicable and never wavered after taking office. He praised the Russian leader, congratulated him, defended him, pursued meetings with him, and fought virtually any policy or punitive measure that might displease him. A trained intelligence operative, Putin understood the power of playing to someone’s insecurities and ego. On cue, he reciprocated with frequent praise for the president he had sought to install in the White House.
Quote: In phone conversations with Trump, Putin would whisper conspiratorially, telling the U.S. president that it wasn’t their fault that they could not consummate the relationship that each had sought. Instead, Putin sought to reinforce Trump’s belief that he was being undermined by a secret government cabal, a bureaucratic “deep state.”
Quote:In phone conversations with Trump, Putin would whisper conspiratorially ...
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