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fascio meaning a bundle of rods, ultimately from the Latin word fasces. This was the name given to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates.

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The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade.

... The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

... Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.

The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of Reactionists, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established national industries have been destroyed or are daily being destroyed. They are dislodged by new industries, whose introduction becomes a life and death question for all civilised nations, by industries that no longer work up indigenous raw material, but raw material drawn from the remotest zones; industries whose products are consumed, not only at home, but in every quarter of the globe. In place of the old wants, satisfied by the production of the country, we find new wants, requiring for their satisfaction the products of distant lands and climes. In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.

... It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

The bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life.

... The bourgeoisie ... has agglomerated population, centralised the means of production, and has concentrated property in a few hands. The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments, and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier, and one customs-tariff.

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“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”

“There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.”

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“I cannot help fearing that men may reach a point where they look on every new theory as a danger, every innovation as a toilsome trouble, every social advance as a first step toward revolution, and that they may absolutely refuse to move at all.”

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The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.

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Because the term “left” is already widely used to denote social systems and ideologies of force (e.g., socialism, communism, “progressivism”), and the term “right” is substantially used to denote social systems and ideologies of freedom (e.g., capitalism, classical liberalism, constitutional republicanism), the best approach for advocates of freedom is not to develop new terminology for the political spectrum, but to define the existing terminology with respect to political essentials—and to claim the extreme right end of the spectrum as rightfully and exclusively ours.

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Political scientists' general consensus is that "left wing" includes liberals, progressives, socialists and communists, and the "right wing" includes conservatives, traditionalists, reactionaries and fascists. The spectrum also includes moderate, center-right, center-left, far-right and far-left politics.

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The left-right political spectrum was born during the French Revolution of 1789. In the French National Assembly, supporters of the king sat on the president's right, and supporters of the revolution sat on his left. In 1791, the National Assembly was replaced by the Legislative Assembly, and the seating arrangement continued, this time with moderates occupying the center seats.

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Marx ALSO projected that true communism would only come about after the entire world was under the yoke of the capitalist. When all distinctions of religion, nation, gender, age, language, and talent were destroyed (by the capitalist) ONLY THEN would the world's workers see their common identity and revolt against the capitalist, no longer divided by artificial barriers but united in their common economic interest.

So efforts to erase distinctions among people and to eliminate any group affiliations are (supposedly) in the (short term) interests of capitalists but in the (long term) interest of the internationalized "woke" worker.

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But at some point the elite would have to look at the situation and ask themselves ... Why are we coddling/controlling this very large group of people that we don't need at all?

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Gotta laugh. Sig posts the opinion of a French man from the mid 1800's as though it is gospel. Why, because it is a negative statement about America.

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I know! That thing some people have with something they learned 40 years ago from someone who said it 100 years before that and they think it's relevant today. I want to tell them: "Get off the stage! We have a lot of great, young minds that have fresher, better ideas right now."

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I know! That thing some people have with something they learned 40 years ago from someone who said it 100 years before that and they think it's relevant today. I want to tell them: "Get off the stage! We have a lot of great, young minds that have fresher, better ideas right now."

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YEP, those documents written in 1776 ... SO PASSE!

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Yeah sig, a document created by Americans. A living document. One subject to change if deemed necessary by two thirds of the country. And to G's point, has had several amendments. 27 to be exact.

Trust me when I say the French were not involved in any of those changes. Nor were the Russians.

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But at some point the elite would have to look at the situation and ask themselves ... Why are we coddling/controlling this very large group of people that we don't need at all?- SIGNY

In 1938 the common man’s condition in the Soviet Union, Germany, or the United States may have been grim, but he was constantly told that he was the most important thing in the world, and that he was the future (provided, of course, that he was an “ordinary man,” rather than, say, a Jew or a woman). He looked at the propaganda posters—which typically depicted coal miners and steelworkers in heroic poses—and saw himself there: “I am in that poster! I am the hero of the future!”

But as technology makes billions of people economically irrelevant, their political power is likely to shrink. For all the success that democracies have had over the past century or more, they are blips in history. Monarchies, oligarchies, and other forms of authoritarian rule have been far more common modes of human governance. - SECOND

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I know! That thing some people have with something they learned 40 years ago from someone who said it 100 years before that and they think it's relevant today. I want to tell them: "Get off the stage! We have a lot of great, young minds that have fresher, better ideas right now."

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YEP, those documents written in 1776 ... SO PASSE!

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Yeah sig, a document created by Americans. A living document. One subject to change if deemed necessary by two thirds of the country. And to G's point, has had several amendments. 27 to be exact.

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Yeah sig, a document created by Americans. A living document. One subject to change if deemed necessary by two thirds of the country. And to G's point, has had several amendments. 27 to be exact.

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100% on the money, T. I wouldn't wish for McCain to be dead but I'm so glad he's no longer in congress. I see it in both partys: Pelosi, Schumer, Hatch, McConnell, old thinkers from both sides that are still fighting old fights in old ways.
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Sig and kiki are just upset they can't point to a Frenchman's signature on the constitution. They were all Americans so they are trying to expand the conversation to save face.

I don't disagree with the need for new blood G but understanding the history of this country is necessary to moving it forward. Benjamin Franklin said "we gave you a republic. Lets see if you can keep it." Some are only caught up in their own wants and not what would be best to maintain this republic.

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"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain forever a child," Cicero astutely observed. For many self-described progressives today, however, this seems not to be a drawback. On the contrary, like adolescents -- insisting that they are grown-ups when their parents get in the way of their fun, but then running home for all their basic needs and creature comforts -- such people seem to give no thought to the past and equally little to the future.

Many people like this are said to suffer from a "Peter Pan Syndrome": the inability or unwillingness to grow up. In thought, they seem to lean to the political left. They want the government to take on the role of parent, even if that involves maxing out the country's "credit cards," so that even for a short time, they can live beyond what they earn.

Possibly in a hurry not to concern themselves with "dreary details," they pressed for a huge health-care bill, passed in 2010, that forever changed how we receive - or do not receive - medical care. It seems the details of the bill were too time-consuming and complex for the world of tweets and sound bites for them to pay attention to what it actually contained. When the bill was being debated, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi famously said, "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

Many of these children in adult bodies were told, and actually believed, that better health care for everyone, including an unlimited number of illegal immigrants, would be attainable at a low cost, if only the government were to run it. That Medicare and Medicaid, both of which the U.S. government currently runs -- as well as the UK's National Health Service -- are going broke does not appear to have occurred to them. So they persist in their fantasy that government-controlled health care is not an ill but a cure.

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Their fantasy is not restricted to the realm of health care. Many of these children in adult bodies believe that many, if not all, major aspects of the economy would be more efficient if the government ran them. This is in spite of the fact that the facilities currently run by the government -- from the Department of Veterans Affairs to the Department of Motor Vehicles -- are inefficient, unhelpful or sometimes even downright hostile -- to the people they are meant to serve.

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Many children in adult bodies also seem not to know that Socialism failed in the Soviet Union, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania, Albania, Bulgaria, China, North Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, and Cuba, and is now failing in Venezuela. Yet, illogically, they appear to believe that they themselves could make it work. The irrational wish is evidently stronger than rational arithmetic.

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They want better health care for a greater number of people at a lesser cost; so they fantasize that they can achieve it without denying care to those who are too old, too sick or too expensive to receive it. They kind-heartedly want a "more equal distribution of wealth"; so they fantasize that they can maneuver it without penalizing and discouraging the productive members of society, while rewarding and encouraging the unproductive ones. Yet this is exactly what has happened wherever the redistribution of wealth was tried.

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so they fantasize that if they treat others kindly, the behavior will be reciprocated. They refer respectfully to the unelected theocratic leader of Iran as "Supreme Leader," even as oppressed Iranian demonstrators are arrested, beaten, tortured or killed.

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Although bullies -- from those who terrorize fellow students in the schoolyard, to those who commit terrorist acts against innocent people across the world -- speak the language of hatred and force, children in adult bodies persist in their fantasy that if they and their government would only project appeasement and weakness, regimes such as that in Tehran would lay down their arms and hate-filled hegemonic aims. Hence, presumably, the support among progressives for the Iran nuclear deal that former President Barack Obama pushed through, without regard to its potential cost of a fully nuclear-capable Iran to America and the rest of the world after the deal expires.

These adults still clinging hard to their wishes seem to believe that crime is caused by poverty or other societal ills, and conclude that criminals are victims of society, such as Kathryn Michelle Steinle, who was shot to death in 2015 by illegal immigrant José Inés García Zárate. Garcia Zarate, a five-time deportee and drug offender. While Steinle met a cruel and untimely death, Garcia Zarate, not only was acquitted of murder and manslaughter, but aroused sympathy on the left.

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These adults who apparently do not want to grow up call those who disagree with them "fascists" or "Nazis" -- without knowing the history of either -- yet accept as gospel any statements or actions, no matter how questionable, on the part of those who agree with their romanticized positions.

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Like Peter Pan, these children wish to live in Neverland – a place that, in the real word, does not exist. Fictional characters, however, have the advantage of enjoying adventures with imaginary dangers.

In the real world, people who never grow up may enjoy themselves for a time, but sooner or later the all-too-real dangers they had ignored, like an overstretched credit card, catch up with them. By the time their future is lost to them, it will be too late to wake up or rectify the situation.

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I have never seen two more obdurately ignorant people than you two! You refuse to read about history, or even refer to a dictionary once in a while. Instead, you close your eyes and plug your ears whining Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you any time anyone puts information in front of you that just doesn't fit in that tiny echo-chamber of yours.

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How can we expect change if we are stuck in the past?- GSTRING

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Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them. - George Santayana

I have never seen two more obdurately ignorant people than you two! You refuse to read about history, or even refer to a dictionary once in a while. Instead, you close your eyes and plug your ears whining Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you any time anyone puts information in front of you that just doesn't fit in that tiny echo-chamber of yours.

No wonder you run around in circles lying and babbling bullshit!

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I think like almost everyone else in the world, I've heard that phrase about a billion times by now. It kind of loses it's value when you realize that it has no value other than to sound clever. You think it's ever changed the minds of tyrants or evil people? Naw, just something pithy for people like you to trot out like you have some special knowledge. You continue to prove your knowledge is wide but superficial at best. You're more like a Xerox machine just making copies. Concepts? Understanding? Xerox doesn't do concepts!

SIGGY's lies in this post:
"You refuse to read about history, or even refer to a dictionary once in a while."

Siggy has probably said: "I like lying better than chocolate!" or "Lying is my jam!"

Have you heard this lil' chestnut: "A corrupt mind corrupts all knowledge?" You should commit it to memory.

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You think it's ever changed the minds of tyrants or evil people? Naw, just something pithy for people like you to trot out like you have some special knowledge.

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You continue to prove your knowledge is wide but superficial at best. You're more like a Xerox machine just making copies. Concepts? Understanding? Xerox doesn't do concepts!

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You should probably try committing anything that didn't happen in the last 2 years to memory yourself. I can't speak for what you do elsewhere, but there is zero evidence on these boards that this is something you are capable of.

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OK, lets all do this. Done, that was easy. This reminds me of Jane. Let's see, nothin from nothin equals nothin.

Leave it to Jack to tee that one up for us G.

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You should probably try committing anything that didn't happen in the last 2 years to memory yourself. I can't speak for what you do elsewhere, but there is zero evidence on these boards that this is something you are capable of.

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OK, lets all do this. Done, that was easy. This reminds me of Jane. Let's see, nothin from nothin equals nothin.

Leave it to Jack to tee that one up for us G.

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I think like almost everyone else in the world, I've heard that phrase about a billion times by now. It kind of loses it's value when you realize that it has no value other than to sound clever.- GSTRING

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OK, GSTRING, here's another little gem you should think about: When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger.

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WHAT, DO YOU SUPPOSE, IS THE BASIS OF SCIENCE? To forget the cellular theory of biology, the "laws" of gravity and electromagnetism, the theory of atoms and molecules and the process of natural selection? To re-invent the same wheels over and over, and to make the same mistakes over and over, because "old knowledge" is so "passe"?

How do you suppose it's any different with the social sciences? When someone from 170 years ago manages to describe and predict in great detail what is happening today ... even the commodification of what we NOW call "intellectual property" (as if that was a new thing and a new idea) ... well, if they can predict what you can't, then maybe they know something that you don't, and maybe you should pay attention.

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You think it's ever changed the minds of tyrants or evil people? Naw, just something pithy for people like you to trot out like you have some special knowledge.

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Dood, you must be braindead. Do you think that this was posted to change to minds of TYRANTS? No, it is aimed especially at people like you: people who are too arrogant to think that they have anything else to learn, and who are too stupid to understand their REAL place in the world.

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You continue to prove your knowledge is wide but superficial at best. You're more like a Xerox machine just making copies. Concepts? Understanding? Xerox doesn't do concepts!

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I think SECOND takes that prize. SECOND just splatters the board with every possible GOP/Trump criticism even if it contradicts other criticisms that he posted. He doesn't really know anything about, or care anything about the actual issues in the Xerox copies with which he so liberally spams the board.

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You continue to prove your knowledge is wide but superficial at best. You're more like a Xerox machine just making copies. Concepts? Understanding? Xerox doesn't do concepts!

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I think SECOND takes that prize. SECOND just splatters the board with every possible GOP/Trump criticism even if it contradicts other criticisms that he posted. He doesn't really know anything about, or care anything about the actual issues in the Xerox copies with which he so liberally spams the board.

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It's great to see second completely flummox you! Don't you know by now that we can tell what you really mean by just flipping what you say? Do you know what a "tell" is?

Truly out did yourself here - rapid fire lying:

"As for "shallow knowledge", you bring no information to the board"
"you post no opinions." ^ just did
"You actively reject learning anything" - you mean I don't agree with you
"you lie like a rug" - you lie like a human
"and you're incapable of having even a two-sentence discussion." ^ that was 5 sentences
"All you've managed to do is troll." - you mean I don't agree with you
"So, what does that make you? - More honest than you!

Thanks for being such a twit!

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You want to know what a Marxist is comrade sig. Your boy Trump fits the description.- THUGR

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You should probably try committing anything that didn't happen in the last 2 years to memory yourself. I can't speak for what you do elsewhere, but there is zero evidence on these boards that this is something you are capable of.

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OK, lets all do this. Done, that was easy. This reminds me of Jane. Let's see, nothin from nothin equals nothin.

Leave it to Jack to tee that one up for us G.

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The actual quote you're thinking of is "Let me do the math here. Nothing into nothin’. Carry the nothin’…"

As in "Rachel Maddow talking points" into "your empty brain". Carry the "empty virtue signalling".

Thanks for lobbing me that softball, bro.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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OK, lets all do this. Done, that was easy. This reminds me of Jayne. Let's see, nothin from nothin equals nothin.

Leave it to Jack to tee that one up for us G.

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The actual quote you're thinking of is "Let me do the math here. Nothing into nothin’. Carry the nothin’…"

As in "Rachel Maddow talking points" into "your empty brain". Carry the "empty virtue signalling".

Thanks for lobbing me that softball, bro.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Going to ignore this one, huh?

Wise move.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Damn you're stupid. I said it reminded me of Jayne. I in no way quoted him. Do you see quotes in my post? Please, think before posting.

And whats up with the Rachel Maddow post? Explain the importance of including that in your response to my referencing Jayne.

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Yet another Siggy lie. The Russia Invades Ukraine thread - a 2 year discussion - one in which you routinely... lied. I'm sensing a pattern!

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You should probably try committing anything that didn't happen in the last 2 years to memory yourself. I can't speak for what you do elsewhere, but there is zero evidence on these boards that this is something you are capable of.

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OK, lets all do this. Done, that was easy. This reminds me of Jayne. Let's see, nothin from nothin equals nothin.

Leave it to Jack to tee that one up for us G.

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The actual quote you're thinking of is "Let me do the math here. Nothing into nothin’. Carry the nothin’…"

As in "Rachel Maddow talking points" into "your empty brain". Carry the "empty virtue signalling".

Thanks for lobbing me that softball, bro.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Going to ignore this one, huh?

Wise move.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Damn you're stupid. I said it reminded me of Jayne. I in no way quoted him. Do you see quotes in my post? Please, think before posting.

And whats up with the Rachel Maddow post? Explain the importance of including that in your response to my referencing Jayne.

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Yet another Siggy lie. The Russia Invades Ukraine thread - a 2 year discussion - one in which you routinely... lied. I'm sensing a pattern!

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Waiting for that proof there GEEBERS.

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OK, lets all do this. Done, that was easy. This reminds me of Jayne. Let's see, nothin from nothin equals nothin.

Leave it to Jack to tee that one up for us G.

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The actual quote you're thinking of is "Let me do the math here. Nothing into nothin’. Carry the nothin’…"

As in "Rachel Maddow talking points" into "your empty brain". Carry the "empty virtue signalling".

Thanks for lobbing me that softball, bro.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Going to ignore this one, huh?

Wise move.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Damn you're stupid. I said it reminded me of Jayne. I in no way quoted him. Do you see quotes in my post? Please, think before posting.

And whats up with the Rachel Maddow post? Explain the importance of including that in your response to my referencing Jayne.

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Your reply was to show me that you could remember something that occurred outside of the last two years.

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What the fuck kind of a sick reality do you live in. Read what you've posted here. Your response to me is based on this bullshit. Get a grip on yourself. We live in a world of perceptions and yours are fucked up. How could you possible know what my motivations were? All your posts here are based on what you think I meant to do instead of what I did. No wonder your posts are full of ridiculous opinions.

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