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Founder Of Movement For Disillusioned Democrats Refused Service At New York Electronics Store

...Straka then expressed concern over being "doxxed" by the angry employee since Adorama collects so much personal information.

"At every station of the store, I’d given them my personal information. What if this kid decides to go into the computer and dox [to publish private information, as in a phone number or address] me?"

"I am not a guy who has a lot of money. I can’t have people going to my apartment and harassing me."

“My instinct is telling me to practice compassion and forgiveness here. I don’t want to see this guy getting fired. I don’t want anything bad to happen to him. I don’t want people harassing him.”

Adorama issued a statement in response to the incident over Twitter:

“The Adorama Management Team deeply regrets the incident involving an employee in our store. Please know this is not who we are, and does not reflect the position of our owners or other staff members. This is being taken seriously and is being addressed with the highest priority.”

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, what do YOU think?

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But, what do YOU think?- SIGNY

I think you voted for Jill Stein= SECOND

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Walk away is the latest Russian bot astro turf vehicle (thx for verifying).- GSTRING

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Walk away is the latest Russian bot astro turf vehicle (thx for verifying). Maybe you should read something other than ZeroSludge? It's to make soft Democrats or any voter who is not committed think that there's a movement amongst democrats to "walk away." I suppose it could be aimed at weak republicans too. Of course it's bullish*t. The people who scream Fake News the most are the ones who use it the most.

What I don't know is if this latest reposting of *anti* stories / clutter is part of the chaos plan...? Do you know? I have a feeling it is, but here??? With 10 members? Hardly seems efficient, but the 'net is a crazy living organism - who knows.

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I just posted a vid about recognizing fascist talking points, denying reality and fascists fellow Americans in general.

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I just posted a vid about recognizing fascist talking points, denying reality and fascists fellow Americans in general.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Walk away is the latest Russian bot astro turf vehicle (thx for verifying). Maybe you should read something other than ZeroSludge? It's to make soft Democrats or any voter who is not committed think that there's a movement amongst democrats to "walk away." I suppose it could be aimed at weak republicans too. Of course it's bullish*t. The people who scream Fake News the most are the ones who use it the most.

What I don't know is if this latest reposting of *anti* stories / clutter is part of the chaos plan...? Do you know? I have a feeling it is, but here??? With 10 members? Hardly seems efficient, but the 'net is a crazy living organism - who knows.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement

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Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement #WalkAway from this deceptive propaganda campaign

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Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement #WalkAway from this deceptive propaganda campaign

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Oh look, it's REAVERFAN, carefully pretending that a vanishingly small number of Russia-sourced tweets has anything to to with 63 million Americans (the number of people who voted for Trump).

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump". And Trump got 50% more states than Hillary.

the Clinton archipelago

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SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Pro-Trump & Russian-Linked Twitter Accounts Are Posing As Ex-Democrats In New Astroturfed Movement #WalkAway from this deceptive propaganda campaign- RF

Oh look, it's REAVERFAN, carefully pretending that a vanishingly small number of Russia-sourced tweets has anything to to with 63 million Americans (the number of people who voted for Trump).

Keep grasping! Grasp! Damn your eyes! Proven wrong over and over. I guess you get paid to lie, so you have to. Hillary got 3 million more votes than Blumpy. Or did you forget? Lies exposed in minutes. Facts have a left bias. - RF

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Walk away is the latest Russian bot astro turf vehicle (thx for verifying).- GSTRING

Thanks for bringing this up.
What I've noticed over the past year is that (some) people ... such as JO, SHINY, SECOND, and WISHY .... people who are otherwise sensible, mostly good-hearted people have become progressively more and more unhinged in their thinking. (Not you and THUGR, tho. You two are trolls and have been trolls for as long as I can remember. You don't get any credit for being anything other than a troll, and you might even be sockpuppets. And RF is the latest addition to the "troll farm".)

It's at the point where people SERIOUSLY believe that I'm a "Russian troll" (!), despite the fact that I have an extremely long history of posting here .... loooong before RUSSIA!! and Trump ever became "a thing" .... and that my posts have been pretty consistent over the years: I was highly critical of GWB when he crossed my lines, and critical of Obama for the same reasons. My opinions aren't a secret; what I find frustrating is that people mis-state them so often!

But using common sense, do you really believe that Russia would waste their resources planting a mole here, on this no-account scifi fansite, waiting for the day (14 years later) when "their" candidate might have a shot at the Presidency in order to reach a couple dozen people?

It's gotten to the point (JO, ARE YOU READING THIS?) where JO apparently thinks that KIKI, SIX, JSF, and I are all here at the behest of the FSB! The same confounding questions: Why would a security agency waste four of their people on a website that reaches maybe two-dozen people?

Srsly.
If the FSB was that stupid, none of you should be worried about RUSSIA!! because RUSSIA!!! (or at least it's security agencies) would implode from gross mis-allocation of resources. The concept goes so much against common sense, it reveals a sense of paranoia ... which itself speaks to a unrealistic level of self-importance. AS IF you, or I, or this website rates that level of attention from .... anyone!


But it's gotten to the point where anyone who disagrees with the "liberal cabal" (PLEASE NOTE: Those who disagree with the liberal cabal make up roughly half of the voting population of America) must be

1) A Nazi/facist, and/or
2) A straight white male supremacist, and/or
3) A Russian troll.

So.
Half of our voting population is made up of Russian trolls and white male Nazis????

Anyone care to toss THAT against the wall of reality and see if it sticks?

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Moral indignation/ outrage has short-circuited several common-sense units, I think. But what are people so outraged about? It's been such a scattering of the important and the trivial, it's hard to make sense of THE thing (or maybe the several issues) that are driving people. And please, don't say "Trump". That's not a good answer.

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Thanks for bringing this up.
What I've noticed over the past year is that (some) people ... such as JO, SHINY, SECOND, and WISHY .... people who are otherwise sensible, mostly good-hearted people have become progressively more and more unhinged in their thinking. (Not you and THUGR, tho. You two are trolls and have been trolls for as long as I can remember. You don't get any credit for being anything other than a troll, and you might even be sockpuppets. And RF is the latest addition to the "troll farm".)

But using common sense, do you really believe that Russia would waste their resources planting a mole here, on this no-account scifi fansite, waiting for the day (14 years later) when "their" candidate might have a shot at the Presidency in order to reach a couple dozen people?

It's gotten to the point (JO, ARE YOU READING THIS?) where JO apparently thinks that KIKI, SIX, JSF, and I are all here at the behest of the FSB!

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Moral indignation/ outrage has short-circuited several common-sense units, I think. But what are people so outraged about? It's been such a scattering of the important and the trivial, it's hard to make sense of THE thing (or maybe the several issues) that are driving people. And please, don't say "Trump". That's not a good answer.

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What I would like to do, for anyone who cares to answer what, specifically, drives them nuts about Trump, isn't to argue but to ASK QUESTIONS. I would like to keep on asking questions until I feel that you, or I, have gotten to the heart of the problem.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's hilarious watching you try to cover your asses after getting them handed to you.

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What I would like to do, for anyone who cares to answer what, specifically, drives them nuts about Trump, isn't to argue but to ASK QUESTIONS. I would like to keep on asking questions until I feel that you, or I, have gotten to the heart of the problem.- SIGNY

Are you specifically asking only reactionary Liberals, or also reasonable folk? Most of what annoys me is what we already were afraid of before the Election.- JSF

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What I've noticed over the past year is that (some) people ... such as JO, SHINY, SECOND, and WISHY .... people who are otherwise sensible, mostly good-hearted people have become progressively more and more unhinged in their thinking.

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"Yesterday I posted about the fake “walk away” movement and was pounced upon constantly by “Trumpers” defending it. I checked now. ALL those accounts went inactive once it was night in Russia but day in the USA. And several have ceased to exist. Coincidence?

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"Yesterday I posted about the fake “walk away” movement and was pounced upon constantly by “Trumpers” defending it. I checked now. ALL those accounts went inactive once it was night in Russia but day in the USA. And several have ceased to exist. Coincidence?

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Oh, yeah, wow. Too bad this isn't Twitter, so your argument falls apart.

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Originally posted by JJ:
Yep it has been confirmed, this is one more of many Russian propaganda troll threads. So let me be the first to suggest we just walk away.

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How? You don't use Twitter so to you no one does? Pls explain.- CC

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Yep it has been confirmed, this is one more of many Russian propaganda troll threads. So let me be the first to suggest we just walk away.

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How? You don't use Twitter so to you no one does? Pls explain.- CC

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The problem with Twitter is that it's easily manipulated. HALF of the tweets circulating thru Egypt during #Arabspring turned out to have been sourced in Israel.

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OTOH, is IS an indication that traditional liberals are getting turned off by the extremely toxic turn that you demonstrate.

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What people REALLY think will be demonstrated in the upcoming elections and in 2020.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Don't dismiss these movements, and don't dismiss the polling numbers which show that Republicans are coming up in the polls. You made that mistake last time, and you got nailed with a big case of PTSD which you're still working thru.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you want to do something BESIDES living in a state of denial, how about pushing the DNC and the DCCC to start actually representing Americans as a whole, not just a pastiche of presumed-victim-subgroups. Being a registered Democrat, I get a lot of questionnaires and phone calls, and I let them know every time where I think they fucked up, and how I think they should be doing better.

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Yep it has been confirmed, this is one more of many Russian propaganda troll threads. So let me be the first to suggest we just walk away.

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I propose a counter effort, this one real though (of course). Actual registered Republicans who have had enough of this disgusting sack of sh*t represent us and will put their name on record. Such as George Will and on and on.

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Damn! Even Trump TV (Fox Business) is talking about Republicans walking away from Trump!

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How? You don't use Twitter so to you no one does? Pls explain.- CC

The problem with Twitter is that it's easily manipulated. HALF of the tweets circulating thru Egypt during #Arabspring turned out to have been sourced in Israel.- SIGNY

That's a problem or the opportunity? I think we know! Precisely why it's fertile ground for Russian influence - do you deny the logic in that? - CC

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OTOH, is IS an indication that traditional liberals are getting turned off by the extremely toxic turn that you demonstrate. - SIGNY

Of course it isn't. I demonstrate a negative pov for lying trolls like the people promoting this fake movement. *cough* - GSTRING

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What people REALLY think will be demonstrated in the upcoming elections and in 2020. - SIGNY

Of course you are wrong. If people are manipulated with false info like this then they will make false choices. You know this and yet you deny. GSTRING

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It's gotta be tricky being pro Putin. You have to swallow your intelligence to back Trump for the ultimate goal of supporting Putin - your pride must be taking a beating.- GSTRING

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Don't dismiss these movements, and don't dismiss the polling numbers which show that Republicans are coming up in the polls. You made that mistake last time, and you got nailed with a big case of PTSD which you're still working thru. - SIGNY

Do me a favor and don't assign motivations to me

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because you A) clearly don't read my posts, and B) are confusing everyone with everyone else lately

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I made 2 mistakes last time:

1. I under estimated how many people hated Hillary and just how much they hated her. If you recall, I said many bad things about her, but there was a larger than anticipated ground swell of hatred for her. Much of that was due to the false info from people like the walkaway shills.

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2. I underestimated how far and wide and on how many levels Russia influenced the election. If you recall, I have tipped my hat to their efforts.

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If you want to do something BESIDES living in a state of denial, how about pushing the DNC and the DCCC to start actually representing Americans as a whole, not just a pastiche of presumed-victim-subgroups. Being a registered Democrat, I get a lot of questionnaires and phone calls, and I let them know every time where I think they fucked up, and how I think they should be doing better. - SIGNY

Yeah, like they don't know that already...

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Sig, just FYI...the more you scream "I'M NOT RUSSIAN" the more you look Russian. A person who wasn't Russian affiliated wouldn't care in the slightest.

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Where do you live, Siggy? Tell us about it.

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Do you know this couple?

Meet the Moscow Mouthpiece Married to a Racist Alt-Right Boss
She spreads the words of Russia’s most virulent propagandist. He’s a leading racist hate-monger. Nina Kouprianova and Richard Spencer are a very different kind of power couple.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-the-moscow-mouthpiece-married-to-a-
racist-alt-right-boss]

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1. I under estimated how many people hated Hillary and just how much they hated her. If you recall, I said many bad things about her, but there was a larger than anticipated ground swell of hatred for her. Much of that was due to the false info from people like the walkaway shills.- CC

"False info" like ... what? That she was videoed saying "We came, we saw, he died" *giggle*? You've mentioned "false info" a couple of times, and you've never been able to show that it [anything posted here] was "false". - SIGNY

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I don't deny the logic, but you're pretending that nobody else has access to Twitter and nobody else knows how to manipulate it. There's only one good response to the problem of media-manipulation (because it comes from all directions on all different channels) and that is to listen to multiple sources, focus on the facts, and try to understand the big picture.

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You've been nothing but a troll since I started reading your posts, you attack people instead of focusing on issues, and you justify your bad behavior (and the bad behavior of others) with the same rationalizations as any bully. So yeah, you're toxic. And a troll.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: Are you denying that this person exists and posted a video? Are you denying that leftwing hate groups have been formed? That people have walked away from the Democratic party? How is this (#walkaway) "false" info?

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It's gotta be tricky being pro Putin. You have to swallow your intelligence to back Trump for the ultimate goal of supporting Putin - your pride must be taking a beating.- GSTRING

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THIS from the guy who just assigned "pro Putin" motivations to me? God, you're such a troll.

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You've mentioned "false info" a couple of times, and you've never been able to show that it was "false".

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This is such a crock. Maybe your real problem is that you just can't believe that 63 million Americans might have had one or two legitimate reasons to vote for Trump/ against Hillary.

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Are you SO CORRECT and SO RIGHTEOUS that it justifies despising half of the American voting population as Nazis or Russian dupes? I think you might want to go back and examine where you went wrong in your understanding of your fellow Americans, and maybe feel a little more respect when you do it.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you want to do something BESIDES living in a state of denial, how about pushing the DNC and the DCCC to start actually representing Americans as a whole, not just a pastiche of presumed-victim-subgroups. Being a registered Democrat, I get a lot of questionnaires and phone calls, and I let them know every time where I think they fucked up, and how I think they should be doing better.

I don't want anyone to be able to say, later ...Well, we just didn't know . I make liberal use of the "other" option, because the DNC's/ DCCC's extremely biased questions show me that they still haven't learned to listen. So every pollster and every tabulator is going to know exactly how I feel, regardless of how they try to "push-poll" me.

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Are you sure they were Democrats calling you up? How do you know?

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It's like fake social media accounts that seem human. We should all be outraged by this - where's your indignation

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