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Monday, June 18, 2018 5:42 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: So they incarcerate everyone? Mindless. We have a fascist apologist here.^
Monday, June 18, 2018 5:53 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Seeking asylum is not a crime.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: But crossing the border illegally is. People need to seek asylum BEFORE they cross the border - not after.
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: My God, you're clueless!
Monday, June 18, 2018 6:26 PM
Monday, June 18, 2018 7:30 PM
Monday, June 18, 2018 8:00 PM
JJ
Monday, June 18, 2018 8:31 PM
Monday, June 18, 2018 9:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JJ: You knew it was comming. [sic] Again comrades kiki and sig blame America for the worlds problems.
Monday, June 18, 2018 11:24 PM
Quote:Yes, it's that simple. If you are a parent, and you rob a bank, or sell a lot of drugs, or hit-and-run, won't YOU be "separated from your children" when you go to jail? Well, entering the country illegally is also a crime, and it has a predicable consequence. Ergo, don't enter the country illegally. - SIGNY Wow - SIGNUMP tries to equate robbing a bank or selling drugs with parents trying to find a better life for their children. Pretty brain dead on that one, chief. I would be willing to bet that if she found herself in their situation, she would be trying the same thing. At least, if she has their courage and loves her children like they do. - GSTRING
Quote:There is another aspect to this, and that is people claiming POLITICAL ASYLUM because of poverty and gang violence in their city, or domestic violence in their home. What is "political" about any of that? "Political" asylum is meant for categories of people who are discriminated against because of a policy of discrimination by their home nation, not because of general incompetence or corruption by their government, or generalized poverty. Receiving "political" asylum on the basis of generalized poverty and violence means that ANY poor person in the entire world can claim asylum, and that is simply not the intent of the political asylum status.- SIGNY So very cold. You're trying to *intellectualize* desperation. Try just once to put yourself in their situation.- GSTRING
Monday, June 18, 2018 11:35 PM
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:03 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki:The problem isn't limited to CNN. CNN just happened to be at the alphabetical top of my list. I'm going to follow it for a bit, to illustrate a consistent pattern. And assuming my schedule frees up soon, I intend to illustrate the problem with other 'sources' as well. I hope you include Foxnews.com - a quick look right now at their "headlines" - Booming economy, fraud crackdown brings enrollment down to 8-year low Overall enrollment in the country's food stamp program has dropped to its lowest level in more than eight years as the economy continues to improve and the Trump administration attempts to tackle fraud in the program. - WATCH: President, VP attend National Space Council meeting - The foul trick famous billionaire used to try to drive wife from house - Controversial college teacher made students praise Allah to enter office - Troubled 90s soap star threatened to kill herself: report - Restaurant customer sickened when he sees disgusting note on check - NASA’s Curiosity rover takes selfie during dust storm - WATCH: Trump supporter disrupts De Niro Broadway performance - SHOCKING VIDEO: Mice found in Wendy’s hamburger buns - FOX & FRIENDS Tourists met with needles, feces on streets of San Francisco - Samuel L. Jackson isn’t sorry for ‘homophobic' Trump tweet See any raw meat for the typical Trump supporter?
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki:The problem isn't limited to CNN. CNN just happened to be at the alphabetical top of my list. I'm going to follow it for a bit, to illustrate a consistent pattern. And assuming my schedule frees up soon, I intend to illustrate the problem with other 'sources' as well.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Seeking asylum is not a crime. But crossing the border illegally is. People need to seek asylum BEFORE they cross the border - not after.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Seeking asylum is not a crime.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I'm curious if anyone is interested in discussing solutions. Signy has a point. Our policies create a lot of poverty and instability outside of our borders. When it comes to Mexico specifically, the US has a long and shameful history of treating its poor population like disposable parts. While the west was being settled, Mexicans were welcome as cowboys. But when the US wanted the territory, the Mexicans were the enemy. During the railroad-building boom times, Mexicans were worked like mules. But when the Great Depression hit, Mexicans were targeted and driven by violence back across the border. During WWII, when there was a shortage of young male labor, Mexicans were 'allowed' to do the most backbreaking work in the US. When times got better, Mexicans were easily-abused cheap labor - as farmworkers, laborers, and especially working in the meat and chicken processing plants in the midwest (Tyson, eg). Then NAFTA destroyed the indigenous Mexican family farmer, throwing them off the land and into the cheap-labor market. (Under Nafta, Mexico Suffered, and the United States Felt Its Pain https://www.nytimes.com/...nafta/under-nafta-mexico-suffered-and-the-united-states-f... Nov 24, 2013 - As heavily subsidized U.S. corn and other staples poured into Mexico, producer prices dropped and small farmers found themselves unable to ...) Now that hard times have hit the American worker (as the last population available to exploit ... but that's another story), Mexicans are now unwelcome. For well over two centuries, the US has turned a blind eye to Mexican labor coming across the border when it was profitable for business and tolerated by the US community. But when circumstances changed, the US had no compunction about driving Mexicans back to whatever fate had in store. So now we have this problem ... illegal border crossers are unpopular (again). And we have laws in place to deal with them (still). But this current shift in the wind doesn't negate the centuries old-dynamic embedded in the personal economies of people across the border. The US is both the thief and the place to find redress. I think we would do ourselves the biggest favor if we stopped being self-serving hypocrites, at least when it comes to immigration. Are Mexicans (and others who come through Mexico) different from immigrants across the rest of the globe, or the same? Do we throw our doors open to Mexicans and no one else? Do we allow everyone in? Or do we, once and for all, treat Mexicans like we treat others - with restricted immigration, enforcement, and the rule of law? We've been trying to have it both ways for too long. We need to settle on one policy - one of the above, or something else - and stick with it. That will help stabilize immigration out of the current chaos. It might also help to regularize the economic relationship between Mexico and the US. SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:27 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by JJ: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Seeking asylum is not a crime. But crossing the border illegally is. People need to seek asylum BEFORE they cross the border - not after.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:32 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Still waiting for a coherent response to this ...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Here's my guess ...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: WHY are people desperate? What is the cause of their poverty? If you can fix that, then you wouldn't have to "help" so many poor.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I remind you once again of the story of washerwomen who go to the river to wash clothes, and they see babies ... helpless babies, floating down the river, dead and drowning. One woman falls into hysterical crying. Several other women form a chain, pulling babies out as fast as they can, even tho they know they';ll never be able to help them all. The last woman turns around and starts running upriver. Stop!!! implore the women of the human chain We need you to help pull babies out of the river!! I can't she yells over her shoulder I'm going upstream to find the bastards who are throwing them in! That is the source of my quote I don't believe in sharing problems, I believe in solving them Also Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor. Poverty - especially nationwide poverty- doesn't just "happen", and it's not the result of personal misfortune, it is the end result of a process.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Find the source of the problem, and solve it. But that is why I find you, THUGR, KRAPO, and SECOND to be such hypocrites ... or at least incredible mental midgets. Each in your own way support and promote the very problems that you pretend to care about. Let's talk about the causes of poverty, and how we can stop it, instead of "helping" its victims.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:09 AM
Quote:Still waiting for a coherent response to this ... - SIGNY Equating bank robbery and drug dealing with seeking asylum - even if it's fake asylum - is such an asinine equation. If you say stupid sh*t you're going to have to wait for a response. - GSTRING
Quote: Here's my guess ... - SIGNY Unfortunately that's what a lot of us have to do, GUESS. I AGREE that there are arguments for both sides: 1. Wrong to bring kids this far without expecting negative consequences. Not to mention the Fraudulent applicants that try to game the system. I would like to see more reporting from neutrals about the source of this immigration. 2. No matter how you slice it, not matter your angle, no matter how well pain compliance may work, it's flat out wrong. OK for Russia maybe, or some other backward ass country, not this one. - GSTRING
Quote: And this is the problem: You have an administration that has proven they don't give a sh*t about non-white people. They're from "Shit holes" etc. If you want to better manage immigration in a humane way, this is the wrong way to do it. You can't trust this administration for anything other than They Will Lie. That seems like a lazy way out. I want a better solution.- GSTRING
Quote:WHY are people desperate? What is the cause of their poverty? If you can fix that, then you wouldn't have to "help" so many poor. - SIGNY "IF" - great lot of good that helps now.- GSTRING
Quote:I remind you once again of the story of washerwomen who go to the river to wash clothes, and they see babies ... helpless babies, floating down the river, dead and drowning. One woman falls into hysterical crying. Several other women form a chain, pulling babies out as fast as they can, even tho they know they';ll never be able to help them all. The last woman turns around and starts running upriver. Stop!!! implore the women of the human chain We need you to help pull babies out of the river!! I can't she yells over her shoulder I'm going upstream to find the bastards who are throwing them in! That is the source of my quote I don't believe in sharing problems, I believe in solving them Also Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor. Poverty - especially nationwide poverty- doesn't just "happen", and it's not the result of personal misfortune, it is the end result of a process. - SIGNY We could tell that story to these kids when they get tucked in at night!- GSTRING
Quote:Find the source of the problem, and solve it. But that is why I find you, THUGR, KRAPO, and SECOND to be such hypocrites ... or at least incredible mental midgets. Each in your own way support and promote the very problems that you pretend to care about. Let's talk about the causes of poverty, and how we can stop it, instead of "helping" its victims. - SIGNY The source of this problem is The White House. There, solved.- GSTRING
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: GSTRING, punishment works to reduce deliberate misbehaviours. So punishment works for end deliberations of costs versus benefits ... white collar crimes for example, illegal immigration, or starting smoking. (What punishment DOESN'T reduce are violent crimes, because those are usually the result of internal drives over which the criminal has no control). This policy, IMHO, is a good example of "deterrence".
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Son, I asked you to consider the causes of POVERTY, and not take the "lazy way out" of blaming everything in Trump. Clearly, your brain is not yet functioning.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: YOU - presumably are an adult. Right?? You ARE an adult??
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Let's talk about the causes of poverty, and how we can stop it, instead of "helping" its victims. - SIGNY
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM:Bullshit. That is a stupid and lazy conclusion. Illegal immigration started long before Trump.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I'm going to give you one more chance to figure this out for yourself.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:38 AM
Quote: GSTRING, punishment works to reduce deliberate misbehaviours. So punishment works for end deliberations of costs versus benefits ... white collar crimes for example, illegal immigration, or starting smoking. (What punishment DOESN'T reduce are violent crimes, because those are usually the result of internal drives over which the criminal has no control). This policy, IMHO, is a good example of "deterrence". Cold, black heart just too lazy to think of a better way.- CGSTRING
Quote: Son, I asked you to consider the causes of POVERTY, and not take the "lazy way out" of blaming everything in Trump. Clearly, your brain is not yet functioning. -SIGNY Clearly you are not talking about the current problem and its easy fix. You want to prattle on about some future make believe situation because you really just don't give a shit about these people.- GSTRING
Quote:YOU - presumably are an adult. Right?? You ARE an adult?? - SIGNY YOU - presumably are a human. Right?? You ARE a human?? -GSTRING
Quote: Let's talk about the causes of poverty, and how we can stop it, instead of "helping" its victims. - SIGNY Yeah, god forbid we'd help the victims of poverty - geezus christ! I think you slipped there. - GSTRING
Quote:Bullshit. That is a stupid and lazy conclusion. Illegal immigration started long before Trump. - SIGNY You really do say the dumbest things with such ease.- GSTRING
Quote:I'm going to give you one more chance to figure this out for yourself. - SIGNY And I'll give you one more chance to read my comment again granny. I said THIS problem. Not interested in your make believe 100 year what-if scenarios.- GSTRING
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Now, as for solving the poverty that is DRIVING illegal immigration, that takes more thought .... something that you seem incapable of.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:04 PM
Tuesday, June 19, 2018 7:00 PM
Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:17 AM
Friday, June 29, 2018 9:18 PM
Quote: Reuters Editor Blames Trump for Annapolis Newsroom Shooting: ‘Blood on Your Hands’ Rob Cox, Global Editor for Thomson Reuters’ Breakingviews vertical, said the Capital Gazette newspaper shooting was a direct response to President Donald Trump’s criticism of the mainstream media. This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul. At least four people killed in Maryland newspaper shooting: reports https://t.co/BXNOhj5BDx — Rob Cox (@rob1cox) June 28, 2018 “This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people,” Cox tweeted following the shooting. “Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul.” UPDATE: Cox has since deleted the tweet and acknowledges “jumping to a conclusion.” UPDATE #2: Still hours later, Cox tweets an apology and a concession that his comments “were not in keeping with the Reuters Trust Principles.” Law enforcement confirmed at least 5 people are dead and 7 others are injured after a suspect gunman opened fire inside the Capital Gazette’s newsroom in Annapolis, Maryland. Neither that information nor further details on the suspect were confirmed at the time of Cox’s post. “Rob Cox helped found Breakingviews.com in 2000 in London. From 2004 he spearheaded the publication’s expansion in the United States and edited daily Breakingviews columns in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal,” according to his biography. “Rob has worked as a financial journalist in London, Milan, New York, Washington, Chicago, and Tokyo. Rob was named Global Editor of Breakingviews in December 2012, three years after it was acquired by Thomson Reuters.”
Friday, June 29, 2018 9:32 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I think the citizens of the United States of America should be. He's trashed your allies and is now trying to be friends with a dictator that first started in war of insults. Policies that rip children away from their families at the border between Mexico and the US. Detaining then somehow not knowing where I think over 1,000 of these children went and doesn't seem to care. Blames that particular policy on the Democrats. Came back from Singapore saying Kim is a smart, tough guy, who has his people listening to every word he says. Then follows that statement up with saying that he would like his own people to do that.
Friday, June 29, 2018 10:34 PM
BRENDA
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I think the citizens of the United States of America should be. He's trashed your allies and is now trying to be friends with a dictator that first started in war of insults. Policies that rip children away from their families at the border between Mexico and the US. Detaining then somehow not knowing where I think over 1,000 of these children went and doesn't seem to care. Blames that particular policy on the Democrats. Came back from Singapore saying Kim is a smart, tough guy, who has his people listening to every word he says. Then follows that statement up with saying that he would like his own people to do that. The policy to tear kids away from their parents was a trial balloon. Normal people were outraged, but Trump AIMS to outrage decent people every day. His base, being racist, fascistic, ill-educated, little hate machines, loved it. His popularity actually went up. Trump and his handlers are thrilled, and even nastier stuff is in the pipeline, already. Fascist America is almost here, and Putin's loving it.
Friday, June 29, 2018 11:03 PM
Friday, June 29, 2018 11:12 PM
Quote:Normal people were outraged, but Trump AIMS to outrage decent people every day. His base, being racist, fascistic, ill-educated, little hate machines, loved it. His popularity actually went up. Trump and his handlers are thrilled, and even nastier stuff is in the pipeline, already. Fascist America is almost here, and Putin's loving it.
Quote: Today, New York City based political commentator, Ryan Girdusky, pointed out a statistic from a CBS poll released today that may surprise some Democratic officials – most Americans want parents and children who enter America illegally kept together as a unit, but prefer that the entire family is either detained or deported after they are caught crossing the border into America. In fact, just 21% of Americans believe that these illegal aliens and their offspring should be released into American streets.
Quote:According to a CBS poll, 48% of Americans says that the United States government should “release the entire family back to their home country together.” 11% of Americans believe that the parents should be arrested, but have their children kept with them in the same facility. As previously mentioned, 21% of Americans say that the government should "release the entire family in the U.S. temporarily and require that they report back for a hearing." Just 4% believed parents and children should be detained in separate facilities. If there is a lesson that Democratic leaders can learn from this sampling of the American voter, it clearly has not resonated with candidates. Just this week, New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon called for the abolition ICE, saying that the group responsible for tracking down illegal aliens was acting like a "terrorist organization." As Girdusky said, “This (poll) shows that Democrats are completely out of step with average Americans. Rather than learning from Hillary Clinton’s loss, they’ve doubled down on open borders, amnesty, and lawlessness and Americans don’t want it.”
Quote:Illegal Immigrants Chase False Hope to Canada ...The arrivals here began suddenly three weeks ago, just a family or two at first, fueled by the notion — largely unfounded, the authorities here say — that Canada would grant them asylum.
Quote:Illegal Immigrants May Not Find Warm Welcome in Canada A new poll shows nearly half of Canadians want border-crossers sent back to the United States.
Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BRENDA ... The "open borders" policy that benefited American immigrants didn't work out so well for native Americans. Seems like your family could have loyalties on both sides of the immigration issue. It sounds confusing. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics. America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Saturday, June 30, 2018 8:27 AM
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Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Normal people were outraged, but Trump AIMS to outrage decent people every day. His base, being racist, fascistic, ill-educated, little hate machines, loved it. His popularity actually went up. Trump and his handlers are thrilled, and even nastier stuff is in the pipeline, already. Fascist America is almost here, and Putin's loving it. The reaction to the immigration crisis here in the USA goes far beyond Trumps base. A CBS poll - which most M$M outlets kept a lid on - shows the following: Quote: Today, New York City based political commentator, Ryan Girdusky, pointed out a statistic from a CBS poll released today that may surprise some Democratic officials – most Americans want parents and children who enter America illegally kept together as a unit, but prefer that the entire family is either detained or deported after they are caught crossing the border into America. In fact, just 21% of Americans believe that these illegal aliens and their offspring should be released into American streets. That puts you in the minority. Quote:According to a CBS poll, 48% of Americans says that the United States government should “release the entire family back to their home country together.” 11% of Americans believe that the parents should be arrested, but have their children kept with them in the same facility. As previously mentioned, 21% of Americans say that the government should "release the entire family in the U.S. temporarily and require that they report back for a hearing." Just 4% believed parents and children should be detained in separate facilities. If there is a lesson that Democratic leaders can learn from this sampling of the American voter, it clearly has not resonated with candidates. Just this week, New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon called for the abolition ICE, saying that the group responsible for tracking down illegal aliens was acting like a "terrorist organization." As Girdusky said, “This (poll) shows that Democrats are completely out of step with average Americans. Rather than learning from Hillary Clinton’s loss, they’ve doubled down on open borders, amnesty, and lawlessness and Americans don’t want it.” https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/06/24/untitled-n2493996 The question is #31 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByVu4fDHYJgVTHVnZjg5R0JXQmxVNi1la0IzX1o2X0RTZ09j/view I think MOST Americans want control of the border. And I think that Canadians want the same. FROM 2007 Quote:Illegal Immigrants Chase False Hope to Canada ...The arrivals here began suddenly three weeks ago, just a family or two at first, fueled by the notion — largely unfounded, the authorities here say — that Canada would grant them asylum. https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/us/21refugees.html FROM 2017 Quote:Illegal Immigrants May Not Find Warm Welcome in Canada A new poll shows nearly half of Canadians want border-crossers sent back to the United States. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/20/illegal-immigrants-may-not-find-warm-welcome-in-canada-refugee-policy-immigration-migration-trudeau-trump-united-states-poll/
Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:48 PM
Quote:You probably don't. People seeking asylum aren't illegals. That Trump decided to treat them as such is just the beginning of your BS.
Sunday, July 1, 2018 12:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:You probably don't. People seeking asylum aren't illegals. That Trump decided to treat them as such is just the beginning of your BS. Anyone crossing the border without going thru a port of entry, EVEN IF THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS, has committed the crime of illegal entry. Filing for asylum after-the-fact does not negate their illegal entry. All that filing for asylum does is put their name in some docket where their actual status will be adjudicated. And btw- very few of them will meet the high bar that is set for being granted asylum after illegal entry; and most of them will be deportable.
Monday, July 2, 2018 2:28 PM
Monday, September 3, 2018 2:17 PM
Monday, September 3, 2018 2:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Did this used to be the Black Hole thread? Anybody notice the MSM has been feverishly hiding the news of drastic reductions in Obamacare Rate Increases? Libtards universally proclaimed that Trump's changes to Obamacare were going to cause Health Care Insurance rates to skyrocket. And they were planning for this to be a central campaign feature and mantra for the Mid-term Elections. But since Facts and Truth have, as always, proven Nostradoofus Libtards completely wrong, the press is diligently keeping mum.
Monday, September 3, 2018 2:56 PM
Quote:You probably don't. People seeking asylum aren't illegals. That Trump decided to treat them as such is just the beginning of your BS. - STINKYBREATHE Anyone crossing the border without going thru a port of entry, EVEN IF THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS, has committed the crime of illegal entry. Filing for asylum after-the-fact does not negate their illegal entry. All that filing for asylum does is put their name in some docket where their actual status will be adjudicated. And btw- very few of them will meet the high bar that is set for being granted asylum after illegal entry; and most of them will be deportable. -SIGNY Do you have reliable numbers for "very few"? MSM has kept that buried.- JSF
Monday, September 3, 2018 10:11 PM
Tuesday, September 4, 2018 2:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:You probably don't. People seeking asylum aren't illegals. That Trump decided to treat them as such is just the beginning of your BS. - STINKYBREATHE Anyone crossing the border without going thru a port of entry, EVEN IF THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS, has committed the crime of illegal entry. Filing for asylum after-the-fact does not negate their illegal entry. All that filing for asylum does is put their name in some docket where their actual status will be adjudicated. And btw- very few of them will meet the high bar that is set for being granted asylum after illegal entry; and most of them will be deportable. -SIGNY Do you have reliable numbers for "very few"? MSM has kept that buried.- JSF Very few of what? The problem is that Immigration presents very garbled statistics. Approximately 20,000 people are granted asylum status each year. But these are people who requested asylum status both before they entered the country (legally) and after they entered the country (illegally). There are about 1.5 million legal entries and about 0.5 million* illegal entries per year (*It used to be more like 1.7 million illegal entries), so out of the total number of entries roughly 1% are granted asylum. The highest number of asylees come from China. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-states https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table19 The question that I think you're asking is What percentage of people entering the United States illegally and requesting asylum defensively are granted asylee status? Unfortunately, those statistics are buried in the bowels of the bureaucracy. I wish I had an answer, but haven't found the statistics that would allow me to even estimate that answer, much less a direct number.
Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:08 PM
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