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Monday, May 28, 2018 7:37 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Salesmen have YUGE social filters. They don't blurt out whatever pops into their head at the moment ... Hey, you're black! Do you suppose I can sell you a nice Cadillac that you can't afford??? So you either need to credit Trump with more forethought, or give up on the idea of him lying.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: How do you know? If he had said sadly, I had no other choice but to cancel the summit would that have been more acceptable to you?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:"Not surprisingly, the GREAT Men & Women of the FBI are starting to speak out against Comey, McCabe and all of the political corruption and poor leadership found within the top ranks of the FBI. Comey was a terrible and corrupt leader who inflicted great pain on the FBI! " They are? Who? Cites for anything in that statement? 2, 3, 5 lies in that one tweet? How do you know whether they are or they aren't? I have read stories that FBI agents are quietly asking to be subpoenaed because if they come forward as whistleblowers they're hosed, but if they're subpoenaed they're safe. So possibly a true statement, we just don't know.
Quote:"Not surprisingly, the GREAT Men & Women of the FBI are starting to speak out against Comey, McCabe and all of the political corruption and poor leadership found within the top ranks of the FBI. Comey was a terrible and corrupt leader who inflicted great pain on the FBI! " They are? Who? Cites for anything in that statement? 2, 3, 5 lies in that one tweet?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There was spying ON the Trump campaign.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Halpern was paid a million dollars.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If the spook agencies were spying on a candidate and President, concocting dirt and leaking half-truths for political purposes, that WOULD be a YUGE political scandal in American history. Not sure if "the biggest" but certainly worse than Watergate. See?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Frankly, I don't pay all that much attention what what Trump SAYS. Like with ALL politicians I've learned that it is much more important to look at what they DO.
Monday, May 28, 2018 12:11 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Nice Gish Gallop, Siggy... - CC
Quote: Are you sure he hasn't said that? - CC
Quote:How do you know? If he had said sadly, I had no other choice but to cancel the summit would that have been more acceptable to you? - SIGNY Nope.- CC
Quote:"Not surprisingly, the GREAT Men & Women of the FBI are starting to speak out against Comey, McCabe and all of the political corruption and poor leadership found within the top ranks of the FBI. Comey was a terrible and corrupt leader who inflicted great pain on the FBI! " They are? Who? Cites for anything in that statement? 2, 3, 5 lies in that one tweet? - CC How do you know whether they are or they aren't? I have read stories that FBI agents are quietly asking to be subpoenaed because if they come forward as whistleblowers they're hosed, but if they're subpoenaed they're safe. So possibly a true statement, we just don't know. - SIGNY Nope - another lie by over statement and unverifiable assumption plus throw in a double serving of trying to take back his statements about how bad the FBI was with a hong compliment. A 5 year old can see it - why can't you?
Quote:There was spying ON the Trump campaign. -SIGNY So every time the FBI questions or investigates someone one it's "spying?" Not surprising you have adopted their slanted language.- CC
Quote:Halpern was paid a million dollars. - SIGNY Mark Halperin? The journalist who (conveniently) has been black balled for sexual misconduct? I haven't been able to find any links for that... do you have any cites?- CC
Quote:If the spook agencies were spying on a candidate and President, concocting dirt and leaking half-truths for political purposes, that WOULD be a YUGE political scandal in American history. Not sure if "the biggest" but certainly worse than Watergate. See? - SIGNY Worse than having a candidate elected through interference by a foreign adversary? See? - GSTRING
Quote:Not even close.
Quote: Frankly, I don't pay all that much attention what what Trump SAYS. Like with ALL politicians I've learned that it is much more important to look at what they DO. - SIGNY Good question: what does he DO? - CC
Monday, May 28, 2018 5:26 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Funny you should ask, I even started a thread with that question to get past your ridiculous idee fixe about RUSSIA! and towards what Trump has DONE/as opposed to what he SAYS (TRUMP: Good, bad, ugly) but apparently you weren't too interested in thinking about it, you were waaay too focused on "golden showers"!
Monday, May 28, 2018 7:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: He got us out of TPP and TTIP, NAFTA is stalled in the water.
Quote:He has instituted tariffs on steel and aluminum.
Quote:Despite his belligerent statements about Iran and Syria and missile firings on irrelevant Syria installations he has quietly withdrawn funding (and interdicted funding sources) from various CIA ops in the Mideast including the so-called "white Helmets" and "moderate rebels" and the opium trail thru Pakistan.
Quote: He may be about to develop a breakthrough negotiation with DPRK.
Quote:He moved the American embassy to Jerusalem ...
Quote:And broke the nuclear deal with Iran.
Quote: He is SERIOUS about getting illegals out of the USA and keeping them out.
Quote: He signed a big tax cut for corporations.
Quote: And he's getting the EU so pissed off at us about Russian and Iran sanctions and tariffs on EU steel that he might make THEM quit US, rather than us quitting them, because (according to his statements) NATO is an irrelevant money-suck that only benefits Europe.
Monday, May 28, 2018 10:15 PM
Quote:So, how is Trump doing on the three things that I thought were so important that they outweighed the fact that Trump would be a loose cannon ... something that I mentioned frequently BEFORE the election? 1) FREE TRADE Two backed out of (TPP, TTIP) two more (NAFTA, CAFTA) to go. The WTO might be too big to tackle. The quality of Trump's "bilateral" deals has yet to be demonstrated. 2) MAKE NICE WITH RUSSIA Trump is getting a lot of pushback from neocons in both parties. No progress in this area. 3) ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION So far, I've been very pleased with Trump's temporary pause on visas from seven war-torn, terrorist-burdened nations, plus his "surge" of raids and deportations. People who are in this country illegally shouldn't expect ICE to ignore the law on their behalf, and if they get swept up because they were in the company of drug-runners, gangbangers, and murderers ... oh well, maybe people will start being a little more careful about the company that they keep. Things I KNEW I was going to be against 1) ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY However, by withdrawing from TPP and TTIP, the venue for disagreement is in the US courts and Congress, not secret tribunals in Brussels or Singapore. Different states can adopt different policies, and (strangely) it may be the liberal states arguing about "states' rights", which I find to be a positive development. Things I suspected I might be against 1) REGULATORY POLICIES Yes, I know that businesses - especially small businesses - face a welter of regulations. However, businesses have proven to be incapable of regulating themselves. There's a reason why regulatory agencies came into being in the first place. We all know what we want out of businesses: don't sell us contaminated products, don't shit up the environment, don't brutalize your workers. Why can't we simplify? 2) TAX POLICIES I have no idea what will come out of the Trump administration. Our tax laws desperately need reform, but I doubt that Trump's reforms would match mine. 3) CHINA AND IRAN Unnecessarily confrontational, militarily. China is an economic adversary, not a military one. Iran isn't our enemy at all, it's Saudi Arabia's - but who the heck cares? Things I suspected I might be for 1) BORDER TAX However, there will be a lot of pushback from out "trading partners" involving possibly the WTO http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/biggest-case-wto-history-euro pe-prepares-legal-challenge-against-trump-border-tax so it may have to be framed as a Value Added Tax reform, to make our taxes more like other nations and to level the playing field. Issues that are complete unknowns: 1) OBAMACARE Obamacare needs to be replaced, but it depends on with what. If Trump makes the government negotiate for best drug prices, he will do more to save Medicare than all of the liberal hand-wringing. It would also help Obamacare be more cost-effective. But what comes out is unpredictable.
Monday, May 28, 2018 11:13 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Nice Gish Gallop, Siggy... - CC Merely responding to your post. Salesmen have YUGE social filters. They don't blurt out whatever pops into their head at the moment ... Hey, you're black! Do you suppose I can sell you a nice Cadillac that you can't afford??? So you either need to credit Trump with more forethought, or give up on the idea of him lying. - SIGNY Quote: Are you sure he hasn't said that? - CC Did your brain break? TRUMP might have said that, but a SALESMAN wouldn't because it wouldn't result in a sale. So either you can't figure out what I said or you can't figure out what YOU said. Quote:How do you know? If he had said sadly, I had no other choice but to cancel the summit would that have been more acceptable to you? - SIGNY Nope.- CC Why not? What WOULD be acceptable to you? An explanation that fits YOUR idea of the situation? And based on what? Your "detailed knowledge" of behind-the-scenes events? HA! Quote:"Not surprisingly, the GREAT Men & Women of the FBI are starting to speak out against Comey, McCabe and all of the political corruption and poor leadership found within the top ranks of the FBI. Comey was a terrible and corrupt leader who inflicted great pain on the FBI! " They are? Who? Cites for anything in that statement? 2, 3, 5 lies in that one tweet? - CC How do you know whether they are or they aren't? I have read stories that FBI agents are quietly asking to be subpoenaed because if they come forward as whistleblowers they're hosed, but if they're subpoenaed they're safe. So possibly a true statement, we just don't know. - SIGNY Nope - another lie by over statement and unverifiable assumption plus throw in a double serving of trying to take back his statements about how bad the FBI was with a hong compliment. A 5 year old can see it - why can't you? Because there's some evidence that it's a true statement (from sources other than Trump) and no evidence that it's a "lie". Basically, you decided it was a "lie" because ... well, you hate Trump so ANYthing he says is a "lie", according to you. Based, once again, on your complete lack of knowledge, and your persistent bias against Trump. Quote:There was spying ON the Trump campaign. -SIGNY So every time the FBI questions or investigates someone one it's "spying?" Not surprising you have adopted their slanted language.- CC No. An "investigation" can include looking at documents, looking at physical evidence, and taking testimony, USUALLY IN THE OPEN, but once it consists primarily of secret surveillance then, yes, that's "spying". Because secret surveillance by another name is "spying". Look up any definition of "spying" that you want. Quote:Halpern was paid a million dollars. - SIGNY Mark Halperin? The journalist who (conveniently) has been black balled for sexual misconduct? I haven't been able to find any links for that... do you have any cites?- CC Sorry, "Halper". Look it up. He was paid a million dollars. Quote:If the spook agencies were spying on a candidate and President, concocting dirt and leaking half-truths for political purposes, that WOULD be a YUGE political scandal in American history. Not sure if "the biggest" but certainly worse than Watergate. See? - SIGNY Worse than having a candidate elected through interference by a foreign adversary? See? - GSTRING Even the intelligence agencies have concluded that altho the Russians "meddled" in the campaign (and they rest that charge partly on the totally unfounded accusation that Russians gave Assange the Podesta emails) that it didn't affect the outcome of the election. See? Quote:Not even close. Perfectly spot-on, for me. Quote: Frankly, I don't pay all that much attention what what Trump SAYS. Like with ALL politicians I've learned that it is much more important to look at what they DO. - SIGNY Good question: what does he DO? - CC Funny you should ask, I even started a thread with that question to get past your ridiculous idee fixe about RUSSIA! and towards what Trump has DONE/as opposed to what he SAYS (TRUMP: Good, bad, ugly) but apparently you weren't too interested in thinking about it, you were waaay too focused on "golden showers"! He got us out of TPP and TTIP, NAFTA is stalled in the water. He has instituted tariffs on steel and aluminum. Despite his belligerent statements about Iran and Syria and missile firings on irrelevant Syria installations he has quietly withdrawn funding (and interdicted funding sources) from various CIA ops in the Mideast including the so-called "white Helmets" and "moderate rebels" and the opium trail thru Pakistan. He may be about to develop a breakthrough negotiation with DPRK. He moved the American embassy to Jerusalem ... And broke the nuclear deal with Iran. He is SERIOUS about getting illegals out of the USA and keeping them out. He signed a big tax cut for corporations. And he's getting the EU so pissed off at us about Russian and Iran sanctions and tariffs on EU steel that he might make THEM quit US, rather than us quitting them, because (according to his statements) NATO is an irrelevant money-suck that only benefits Europe. Now, you may agree or disagree with what he's "done" but this is just a short list, off the top of my head. Apparently, while you were maintaining your laser-like focus on a made-up issue, you took your eye off the ball.
Monday, May 28, 2018 11:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I brought this from the other thread, which I posted more than a year ago (Feb 2017). Much of this was drawn from Trump's openly stated positions, so there was no secret what Trump wanted to do, and where I agreed or disagreed with his positions. Overall Trump is doing ... or trying to do ... what he said he would. Except that he got caught up in a war with the deep state, since they've done everything to torpedo his administration. And my opinion of his positions remains pretty much the same, unless he pulls some big ginormous rabbits out of his hat, in which case my opinion of him will change. Seeing as he is mostly heading in the directions he said he would BEFORE he was elected, I don't think I would characterize him as being a "liar". Quote:So, how is Trump doing on the three things that I thought were so important that they outweighed the fact that Trump would be a loose cannon ... something that I mentioned frequently BEFORE the election? 1) FREE TRADE Two backed out of (TPP, TTIP) two more (NAFTA, CAFTA) to go. The WTO might be too big to tackle. The quality of Trump's "bilateral" deals has yet to be demonstrated. 2) MAKE NICE WITH RUSSIA Trump is getting a lot of pushback from neocons in both parties. No progress in this area. 3) ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION So far, I've been very pleased with Trump's temporary pause on visas from seven war-torn, terrorist-burdened nations, plus his "surge" of raids and deportations. People who are in this country illegally shouldn't expect ICE to ignore the law on their behalf, and if they get swept up because they were in the company of drug-runners, gangbangers, and murderers ... oh well, maybe people will start being a little more careful about the company that they keep. Things I KNEW I was going to be against 1) ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY However, by withdrawing from TPP and TTIP, the venue for disagreement is in the US courts and Congress, not secret tribunals in Brussels or Singapore. Different states can adopt different policies, and (strangely) it may be the liberal states arguing about "states' rights", which I find to be a positive development. Things I suspected I might be against 1) REGULATORY POLICIES Yes, I know that businesses - especially small businesses - face a welter of regulations. However, businesses have proven to be incapable of regulating themselves. There's a reason why regulatory agencies came into being in the first place. We all know what we want out of businesses: don't sell us contaminated products, don't shit up the environment, don't brutalize your workers. Why can't we simplify? 2) TAX POLICIES I have no idea what will come out of the Trump administration. Our tax laws desperately need reform, but I doubt that Trump's reforms would match mine. 3) CHINA AND IRAN Unnecessarily confrontational, militarily. China is an economic adversary, not a military one. Iran isn't our enemy at all, it's Saudi Arabia's - but who the heck cares? Things I suspected I might be for 1) BORDER TAX However, there will be a lot of pushback from out "trading partners" involving possibly the WTO http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/biggest-case-wto-history-euro pe-prepares-legal-challenge-against-trump-border-tax so it may have to be framed as a Value Added Tax reform, to make our taxes more like other nations and to level the playing field. Issues that are complete unknowns: 1) OBAMACARE Obamacare needs to be replaced, but it depends on with what. If Trump makes the government negotiate for best drug prices, he will do more to save Medicare than all of the liberal hand-wringing. It would also help Obamacare be more cost-effective. But what comes out is unpredictable.
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 1:01 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 1:32 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Hey Signy I voted against Trump for one reason, and that was because Hillary's neo-CON anti-Russia agenda looked like an existentially dangerous path. Aside from that, I was OK with his immigration stance and more than OK with his plans to drop out of international trade agreements. I was pretty sure I was going to be against everything else, but compared to nuclear annihilation, it's survivable in the short-term. So I find Syria, as the bellweather of Russian relations troubling. It looks like one step forward, one step sideways, and one step back. The appointment of Bolton also doesn't bode well. I'm willing to see how this all goes. But since I'm not an optimist by nature, and since every event is presented with equally plausible, but opposite, spins, I'm going to give the downside more credence until it looks otherwise. But, speaking of the democrats - when the hell are they going to put on their big boy pants and get to work? SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:23 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I'm willing to see how this all goes.
Quote:But, speaking of the democrats - when the hell are they going to put on their big boy pants and get to work?
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:14 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 7:06 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I'm willing to see how this all goes. Well that's good. I'm sure the powers that be are breathing a sigh of relief that they have your patience. Quote:But, speaking of the democrats - when the hell are they going to put on their big boy pants and get to work? That's a good question. We're coming on two straight years of a temper tantrum and nothing has changed. All the celebrating about the house and senate supposedly going Democrat seems to even have died down. I'm not sure how much anybody even believes that at this point. I'm actually hoping that at least one of them flip, since as I've said many times before I think our two political parties do the most damage to the nation when they control all 3 branches. The Democrats in 2018 are completely lost. They have no real message, and they're still feeling the backlash of all of their policies and push back against their current way of going about issues. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 9:04 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: TRUMP might have said that, but a SALESMAN wouldn't because it wouldn't result in a sale. So either you can't figure out what I said or you can't figure out what YOU said.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why not? What WOULD be acceptable to you? An explanation that fits YOUR idea of the situation? And based on what? Your "detailed knowledge" of behind-the-scenes events? HA!
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: How do you know whether they are or they aren't? I have read stories that FBI agents are quietly asking to be subpoenaed because if they come forward as whistleblowers they're hosed, but if they're subpoenaed they're safe.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ... well, you hate Trump so ANYthing he says is a "lie", according to you. Based, once again, on your complete lack of knowledge, and your persistent bias against Trump.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Even the intelligence agencies have concluded that altho the Russians "meddled" in the campaign (and they rest that charge partly on the totally unfounded accusation that Russians gave Assange the Podesta emails) that it didn't affect the outcome of the election. See?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ....but apparently you weren't too interested in thinking about it, you were waaay too focused on "golden showers"!
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:14 AM
Quote:Wrong and backwards as usual. I hate Trump because he lies.
Quote:he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages.
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Wrong and backwards as usual. I hate Trump because he lies. If that was an actual reason to hate Trump, you should hate Hillary, too. Quote:he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages. Are you ... trying ... to make people laugh at you and dismiss you?
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: To JSF about an hour ago... Your explanation of it all is bound to draw some ire from the Leftists on the board, but I don't see any real argument to it. Their entire platform right now is "Russia!" and everybody who doesn't agree with us is a racist, sexist, homophobe, islamophobe.... yanno... Hillary's quote that still loudly reverberates 2 years later in every Leftist echo chamber in June of 2018. I'm hoping after another crushing defeat in 2018 that they figure this out and start focusing on stuff that matters. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:27 AM
JJ
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:28 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:32 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Oh, I just don't see CC as a leftist. I think of him as a pro-Hillary Deep State propagandist - a neocon in Drag.
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:59 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 1:34 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:47 PM
Quote: he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages.- GSTRING
Quote:The photo, which showed two children on green maps behind a chain-link fence, was taken in 2014, when Barack Obama was president
Quote: I'm a Truthist - always will be.- GSTRING
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:23 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages.- GSTRING Oh, that photo? Too bad it was taken in 2014. When, yanno, OBAMA was President! So, Obama is racist, you say?
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages.- GSTRING Oh, that photo? Too bad it was taken in 2014. When, yanno, OBAMA was President! So, Obama is racist, you say? Yes, I assumed that photo was from now. It fits with so much of Trump's behavior + John Kelley's "we'll house them... somewhere" and Trump's comments on people from "shit holes" and commenting that some of the people who marched for KKK were "good people" and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist - convinced me. He is a racist of the highest order and not getting the provenance of a photo right won't change that. And please, do you think Trump has upgraded those facilities? So if you think Obama was a racist then you also think Trump is one. Your turn.
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:32 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 5:16 PM
Quote:... he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages.- GSTRING Oh, that photo? Too bad it was taken in 2014. When, yanno, OBAMA was President! So, Obama is racist, you say? - SIGNY Yes, I assumed that photo was from now.- GSTRING
Quote:It fits with so much of Trump's behavior + John Kelley's "we'll house them... somewhere" and Trump's comments on people from "shit holes" and commenting that some of the people who marched for KKK were "good people" and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist - convinced me. He is a racist of the highest order and not getting the provenance of a photo right won't change that. And please, do you think Trump has upgraded those facilities? So if you think Obama was a racist then you also think Trump is one. Your turn.
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:13 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 7:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JJ: Those here always defending Trump G are void of class.
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:55 PM
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 9:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well there's your problem right there. You assume Trump is a racist.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You assume that Trump is a "liar" (and then break logic in order to demonstrate it).
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You assume that Trump is in the hands of RUSSIA!!!
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You assume that Trump didn't "do" anything.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You assume that I'm a Trump supporter and/or a Russian supporter.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Screening immigrants from jihadist-ridden failed states with sketchy documentation isn't "racism" either.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And do you know what? There are nations that ARE shitholes ... not only are they corrupt, they're poverty-stricken.
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 9:44 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 10:25 AM
Quote:Well there's your problem right there. You assume Trump is a racist. - GSTRING I assume he's a racist based on his racist behavior.
Quote: + John Kelley's "we'll house them... somewhere"
Quote: and Trump's comments on people from "shit holes"
Quote: And commenting that some of the people who marched for KKK were "good people"
Quote: and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist
Quote: You assume that Trump is a "liar" (and then break logic in order to demonstrate it).- SIGNY He's a liar based on his constant, demonstrable lying- GSTRING
Quote:You assume that Trump is in the hands of RUSSIA!!! - SIGNY He definitely has a quid pro quo relationship with Russia. First he lied about having any dealings in Russia. Then - amongst many other connections - he held off applying sanctions on Russia against the will of the Republican majority congress. He definitely is beholding to them in some way.- GSTRING
Quote:You assume that Trump didn't "do" anything. - SIGNY He's done things, and many of them are anti-American in spirit imho.- GSTRING
Quote:You assume that I'm a Trump supporter and/or a Russian supporter. - SIGNY Yes! Ding! You got one right!- GSTRING
Quote:Screening immigrants from jihadist-ridden failed states with sketchy documentation isn't "racism" either. - SIGNY Who said it was? - GSTRING
Quote: It fits with so much of Trump's behavior ... and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist
Quote: And do you know what? There are nations that ARE shitholes ... not only are they corrupt, they're poverty-stricken.- SIGNY No - they are most definitely not shit holes.- GSTRING
Quote: Except maybe to you from your whole-house-wifi California mansion with a gardner point of view. Must be nice to have so much. Makes it easy to look down on others without any guilt I guess, just arrogance. Just hire a non-white person and share a sandwich and give them a bowl of water and poof! You're conscience is clean! - GSTRING
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 12:28 PM
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 12:36 PM
Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:50 PM
Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm wondering how long G is going to keep up this stupid line of thought? Going on days now of just posting the same stupid bullshit over and over again.
Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm wondering how long G is going to keep up this stupid line of thought? Going on days now of just posting the same stupid bullshit over and over again. Which "stupid bullshit?" The, "Trump is a racist lying sack of shit?" part?
Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:24 AM
Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe if you keep saying it and wishing on a star it will become true.
Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:33 PM
Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: That wuz halarious!
Friday, June 1, 2018 1:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Oh, I just don't see CC as a leftist. I think of him as a pro-Hillary Deep State propagandist - a neocon in Drag.
Friday, June 1, 2018 1:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JJ: Those here always defending Trump G are void of class. The word you're looking for, genius, is devoid. A pretty comical statement coming from you. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, June 2, 2018 10:12 AM
Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: If there is any lasting benefit from the Trump era, it will lie in the Great Unmasking: the revelation of just how much bad faith pervades modern conservatism. Some of us, of course, knew this all along, and are not surprised. Conversely, many centrists and much of the news media simply refuse to face up to the asymmetry of our politics and will persist with bothsidesism even as one side drives us into the abyss. But one can at least hope that the constant revelations of past hypocrisy will have some impact. These revelations come on many fronts. Pious invokers of fiscal responsibility and hysterical debt alarmists are perfectly OK with tax cuts that explode the deficit. Professors who denounce campus political correctness as the greatest threat we face to free speech collude with right-wing activists to conduct opposition research on left-wing students. Rather oddly, some of the few people on the right who really seem to believe what they were saying are foreign-policy neoconservatives. They misled us into a disastrous war; but they appear to have been sincere about their national security concerns, and are among the few Republicans who remain steadfast in their Never Trumpism. (Curse you, Donald Trump, for making me feel some respect for Bill Kristol!) But almost everyone else on the right is revealing his true face. And now comes energy and environmental policy. Over the past 40 years or so conservatives have become ever more strident in their attacks on environmental protection. They questioned the science; they insisted that any attempt to limit emissions would greatly damage economic growth; they denounced government intervention and declared the sanctity of free markets (even though Econ 101 calls for intervention in the case of negative “externalities” like pollution.) But none of it was sincere. GOP climate skeptics have repeatedly given the game away, for example by touting new studies that they insisted would refute global warming, then rejecting those studies when they confirmed it. GOP economists who tout the limitless ability of markets to cope with change suddenly proclaim them utterly incapable of adapting to a carbon tax. And now all that talk about free markets is revealed as the sham it always was. Ten years ago the big debate . . . more at www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/opinion/coal-cash-and-bad-faith.html
Quote: Some of us, of course, knew this all along, and are not surprised.
Sunday, June 3, 2018 8:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Here's a quarter. Go call somebody who cares. Do Right, Be Right. :)
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