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That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

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Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

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That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

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Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Who said anything about the truth. They're all fucking crooks and liars.

I just said I voted for him because he was a troll.

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That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

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Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Who said anything about the truth. They're all fucking crooks and liars.

I just said I voted for him because he was a troll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You voted for Trump because he is a troll, which is not what a reasonable person would do. Texas Republicans I know voted for their "reasons", none of which had anything to do with Trump being a troll. The Republicans and Trump are reactionaries. FDR, LBJ, JFK were Democrats, Hillary is a Democrat, and anything a Democrat wants ought to be rolled back by reactionaries until we again live in the wonderful days of Warren G Harding. Most of the Republicans don't know Harding from Calvin Coolidge, but they know what they want and it is not a troll. They want the return to the past, the Roaring Twenties, before the Crash of 1929. The beautiful part is that is a vision that can be relatively easy to achieve, at least compared to the hard work of what Democrats want.

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SECOND is a reactionary. Anything that a Republican might do must be rolled back, until we can live in the wonderful days of LBJ.

And, SECOND, before you (once again) misrepresent what I say and put words in my mouth, please re-read my signature lines. With comprehension this time.

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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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SECOND is a troll. And it IS pretty annoying!

Of course, I did needle SECOND on purpose, pointing out his habit of straw-manning and general lack of comprehension, so I guess it's not surprising that he lashed out.


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In just the hour leading up to her apology on Tuesday, Barr’s tweets and retweets included: references to the viral “QAnon” conspiracy theory, which holds that a senior government official is using 4chan to post clues about pedophiles in the intelligence services plotting against Trump- SECOND

"Dave" of X22 refers to "Q" frequently; and he spins some pretty fantastic predictions based on Q's posts. It's tempting to reject them out of hand, but there's a problem: his most outrageous predictions, based on Qannon posts, DO seem to come true. Or at least they have so far.- SIGNY


A blog post claiming that Obama had directed the CIA to spy on Trump’s campaign- SECOND

There is evidence that this might have happened. One of Strzok's texts said "the WH [White House] is running this thing" If "this thing" refers to Operation Crossfire Hurricane, then the WH DID direct the FBI to spy one Trump's campaign. However, Congress needs the unredacted texts, which the FBI refuses to turn over.- SIGNY

Lies about the philanthropist George Soros having collaborated with the Nazis - SECOND

During WWII, George Soros was sent to live with a Nazi family by his Jewish father, and he went around with/ assisted his foster father INVENTORYING THE POSSESSIONS OF JEWS so that the Nazi government could confiscate it. Soros himself talked about it.

And claims that he was scheming to undermine democracy in cahoots with Chelsea Clinton;- SECOND

I don't know about Chelsea, but I DO know that Soros funds some NGOs like the NED and Open Society, which work hand-in-glove with the State Department, the CIA, and AID, to destabilize and overthrow democratically governments that our deep state doesn't like. I can get you links if you like.- SIGNY

Another attempt to smear Jarret by claiming that her mother was an anti-American communist; and an impassioned defense of Tommy Robinson, a far-right English nationalist who was jailed for contempt of court in Britain after using Facebook to harass and smear British Muslims.- SECOND

Not following these stories, but since her other tweets have truth in them, these might be at least partially true too.- SIGNY

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When a Trump does it, it is perfectly sane – he is appealing to people like you. When you do it, it is simply a crazy failure being themselves. The Trump family knows how to exploit your kind.- SECOND

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I will save you the trouble of clicking the link: Soros was not a Nazi Sympathizer, but he does irritate Republicans.- SECOND

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As George Soros himself described. DID you watch the video?

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I will save you the trouble of clicking the link: Soros was not a Nazi Sympathizer, but he does irritate Republicans.- SECOND

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was "lie". We weren't discussing whether or not he "helped round up Jews" or was "Nazi sympathizer". If you had made THOSE claims, then I would have said that they were inaccurate. But that wasn't your point. Soros, by his words, helped Nazis steal Jewish assets. That is called "collaboration". For any normal person, it would have been traumatic, but not for George Soros!


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They've lost the argument ...
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was "lie". We weren't discussing whether or not he "helped round up Jews" or was "Nazi sympathizer". If you had made THOSE claims, then I would have said that they were inaccurate. But that wasn't your point. Soros, by his words, helped Nazis steal Jewish assets. That is called "collaboration". For any normal person, it would have been traumatic, but not for George Soros!


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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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During the later part of this tumultuous time, George went for a few weeks to live with a government official whose duty it was to take inventory of Hungarian Jews who had been divested of their estates. The official was not only helping to protect Soros but also his own Jewish wife.

Soros’s biographer and his father’s account both confirm that George went along for one of these inventory trips in Budapest, assuming the role as “godson” to the official. While Tivadar claims in his autobiography that George “even helped with the inventory” the biography of Soros by Michael Kaufman suggests that Soros did not assist with the inventory.

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Many who peddle the “George Soros was a Nazi” conspiracy rely on a 60 Minutes interview with Soros from 1998. During the interview, Soros was asked if he “helped in the confiscation of the property from the Jews” to which he responded “yes, that’s right.” Later on in that same line of questioning, Soros says that he “was only a spectator” and “had no role in taking away that property.”

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Sympathizer? Collaborator? Natural-born or made-sociopath? Victim? All of the above? Something else?

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Republicans and Signym make false accusations against Soros, since they hate him, because he looks to be one hundred and eight years old. He is so ancient, he must have been a Nazi. But at time of the Nazis, Soros was eight years old. No, Signym, you picked the wrong Soros to accuse of working for the Nazis. Find another one that was an adult during WWII.

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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

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The George Soros who admitted collaborating with Nazis against Jews in that interview was 13 in 1944 when he was doing this.

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It's not what Soros "did" that's troubling; after all, most people don't have the strength of conviction to fight an overwhelmingly powerful entity, and sometimes the best that they can do is minimal, grudging participation. It's Soros' reaction that seems kinda creepy.

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Signym, you are full speed ahead crazy.

How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the Right?
www.businessinsider.com/how-did-george-soros-become-the-favorite-booge
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George Soros is the enemy of choice of despots. It is no surprise that Putin, Trump, and Signym hate Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]

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What we have here SECOND is many years worth of SIG posting fake news stories. These threads are full of SIG's attempts to troll the truth.

Now there is one untruth she has managed to get some here to believe. That she is well to do. I've been posting here for years. Now when I ask myself if she ever posts the truth and the answer is no, then her being well to do to me is just one more lie.

She's a Russian troll, nothing more.

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How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the Right?
www.businessinsider.com/how-did-george-soros-become-the-favorite-booge
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George Soros is the enemy of choice of despots. It is no surprise that Putin, Trump, and Signym hate Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]

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What we have here SECOND is many years worth of SIG posting fake news stories. These threads are full of SIG's attempts to troll the truth.

Now there is one untruth she has managed to get some here to believe. That she is well to do. I've been posting here for years. Now when I ask myself if she ever posts the truth and the answer is no, then her being well to do to me is just one more lie.

She's a Russian troll, nothing more.

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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

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I'd like to get back to the philosophical underpinnings of why I called Soros a "despot".

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How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

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Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.

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How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself...SIG



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How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

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Hey stupid, READ THE STORY. There is NOTHING in there about the Euro. It's not even mentioned once. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you just make shit up because you're a troll, or are you really that stupid?

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Reading comprehension is not a skill you pocess stupid. It says Soros made a billion by betting on the devaluation of the pound. In other words stupid, he invested his money with that in mind. What a ass you are. You're quoted at the top suggesting to SECOND he stole the money.

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