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Let Trump be Trump?
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:16 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:30 AM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Trump is desperate and is flailing around, trying to divert the discussion from RUSSIA!!!
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:57 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Trump has made a number of big moves lately including signing a tariff, arranging a meeting with Kim Jong Un, and firing Rex Tillerson.
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Trump has made a number of big moves lately including signing a tariff, arranging a meeting with Kim Jong Un, and firing Rex Tillerson. President Donald Trump’s personal assistant, John McEntee, was escorted out of the White House on Monday, two senior administration officials said. The cause of the firing was an unspecified security issue, said a third White House official with knowledge of the situation. Mr. McEntee had been a constant presence at Mr. Trump’s side for the past three years. He made sure Mr. Trump had markers to sign autographs, delivered messages to him in the White House residence and, over the weekend, ensured that the clocks in the White House residence were adjusted for daylight-saving time. (Who's resetting the clocks when daylight-savings ends November 4th?) “It’s not going to be great for morale,” one White House official said about Mr. McEntee’s departure. Mr. McEntee was removed from the White House grounds on Monday afternoon without being allowed to collect his belongings, a White House official said. He left without his jacket, a second White House official said. White House press secretary Sarah Sanders declined to comment saying, “We don’t comment on personnel issues.” Mr. McEntee didn’t return a call seeking comment. www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-personal-assistant-is-fired-1520945928]
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:59 AM
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:41 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:05 PM
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:25 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:43 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:00 PM
Quote: Andrew McCabe To Be Fired Days Ahead Of Retirement? WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions is reviewing a recommendation to fire the former F.B.I. deputy director, Andrew G. McCabe, just days before he is scheduled to retire on Sunday, people briefed on the matter said. Mr. McCabe was a frequent target of attack from President Trump, who taunted him both publicly and privately. Mr. McCabe is ensnared in an internal review that includes an examination of his decision in 2016 to allow F.B.I. officials to speak with reporters about an investigation into the Clinton Foundation. The Justice Department’s inspector general concluded that Mr. McCabe was not forthcoming during the review, according to the people briefed on the matter. That yet-to-be-released report triggered an F.B.I. disciplinary process that recommended his termination — leaving Mr. Sessions to either accept or reverse that decision.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:05 PM
Quote: Trump Plans To Fire Jeff Sessions: Report As if the abrupt firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson - and countless others in recent weeks and months - wasn't enough of a surprise, President Donald Trump on Tuesday told an incredulous group of reporters that Tillerson's head wouldn't be the last to roll. The moment had all the hallmarks of a paradigm shift: with his approval rating at post-election highs (according to Rasmussen), an emboldened Trump is reworking the famous phrase "let Trump be Trump" by being more assertive on policy and personnel.And today, Vanity Fair reported that Trump is planning to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions - a decision that would certainly complicate Robert Mueller's investigation (perhaps that's the intention). According to the report, the leading candidate to replace Sessions would be EPA administrator Scott Pruitt. Perhaps most consequential for Robert Mueller’s investigation, sources said Trump has discussed a plan to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions. According to two Republicans in regular contact with the White House, there have been talks that Trump could replace Sessions with E.P.A. Administrator Scott Pruitt, who would not be recused from overseeing the Russia probe. Also, because Pruitt is already a Cabinet secretary, he would not have to go through another Senate confirmation hearing. In another (perhaps expected) revelation, Sherman reports that Trump has been quietly grumbling about Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, telling advisors that he wished they'd move back to New York City as Kushner being stripped of his temporary security clearance has become a hindrance to performing his duties as a senior advisor to the president. Then there is the question of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s futures. Trump has told people for months that he wants them to go back to New York. "Trump wants them out of there. He thinks they’ve been getting hit too hard," a friend of the president said. But Javanka are digging in, sources said. "They’ve damaged us so much already. What else can they say about us?" Kushner recently said, according to a person who spoke with him. "And if we go back to New York, they’ll keep attacking. So what do we have to lose?" In recent days, the couple have argued for their continued relevance by cooperating with pieces in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Sources said that if Kelly is forced out, Jared and Ivanka will fight to stay on. And that's not all: Earlier this week, it was reported that Trump is preparing to also fire HR McMaster, his National Security Adviser. McMaster was appointed hastily in the aftermath of Mike Flynn's firing, and has refused to parrot the president's views about whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election, earning him the ire of Breitbart and most of the "alt-right." That news followed another report earlier this month suggesting that Chief of Staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis had struck a deal to push out McMaster and install one of their proteges. To summarize: the firing of Rex Tillerson was just the first in a series of terminations planned by what now appears to be a far more confident and empowered Trump. And judging by the market's reaction today, risk assets are finally starting to get concerned.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The fact that Roger Stone knew of the DNC hack before they were made available to the public on wikileaks has been known since before the election. You don't need any half-baked quotes from your go-to "anonymous sources" He said so himself on Alex Jones more than once in the months leading up to the election. I'm not sure how this is damning at all since the article you quoted even said that Stone was an "informal" advisor to Trump.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:14 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:28 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:47 PM
Quote:There goes sig with zerohedge again. I suggest you all just skip right past her posts that include that source as I do. She continues to go there because mainstream doesn't twist the facts to create an alternate truth that suits her. SIGs a regular Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne likes alternative facts too. - THUGR
Quote: “Trump Wants Them Out of There”: After Swinging the Axe at Tillerson, Trump Mulls What to Do with McMaster, Sessions, Jared, and Ivanka rom the moment Donald Trump appointed Chief of Staff John Kelly last summer, he vented to friends and advisers that Kelly was too overbearing, preventing him from acting on his instincts and impulses, the things that got him elected president. To truly be himself, Trump turned to Twitter and Fox & Friends. But over the past week, even though Kelly is still nominally on the scene, his presidency has entered a new phase—one in which Trump feels emboldened to throw off the shackles that have thus far constrained him. In the span of a few days, Trump launched a global trade war by imposing new steel and aluminum tariffs; stunned the world by making a snap decision to sit down with Kim Jong Un at a nuclear summit this spring; fired his long-suffering secretary of state, Rex Tillerson; and appointed notorious supply-sider Larry Kudlow. “The president is finally realizing he is the president,” a former White House official told me. “He’s just making these decisions on his own.” Speaking to reporters shortly after tweeting that he had replaced Tillerson at Foggy Bottom with hardline C.I.A. Director Mike Pompeo, Trump indicated he would soon move against his remaining antagonists, many of whom he appointed with glee, in the executive branch. “I’m really at a point where we’re getting very close to having the Cabinet and other things that I want,” he said.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Mainstream regularly manipulates facts to create an alternate truth that suits you. That's why I ignore your links as much as I ignore zerohedge links.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:43 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:46 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, I have linked information, THUGR which you formerly rejected because it came from ZH. But since I've shown that it came from MSM, do you now accept it? And what does that say about your "vetting" process? Is it entirely dependent on "trust" in the MSM to give you the "facts"?
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:53 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, in other words, you let other define the "facts" for you, depending (of course) on whether or not you find their POV compatible with yours. That's quite an echo chamber that you've got in your head, there, THUGR! So now that you've accepted the "facts" that Trump is planning to gut his list of Cabinet members and advisors ... because it came from a source that you "trust" instead of being "linked" thru ZH ... Do you have anything to say ON TOPIC?
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:28 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, in other words, you let other define the "facts" for you, depending (of course) on whether or not you find their POV compatible with yours. That's quite an echo chamber that you've got in your head, there, THUGR! So now that you've accepted the "facts" that Trump is planning to gut his list of Cabinet members and advisors ... because it came from a source that you "trust" instead of being "linked" thru ZH ... Do you have anything to say ON TOPIC? Of course, you're a fucking moron.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:59 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Trump Plans To Fire Jeff Sessions: Report As if the abrupt firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson - and countless others in recent weeks and months - wasn't enough of a surprise, President Donald Trump on Tuesday told an incredulous group of reporters that Tillerson's head wouldn't be the last to roll. The moment had all the hallmarks of a paradigm shift: with his approval rating at post-election highs (according to Rasmussen), an emboldened Trump is reworking the famous phrase "let Trump be Trump" by being more assertive on policy and personnel.And today, Vanity Fair reported that Trump is planning to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions - a decision that would certainly complicate Robert Mueller's investigation (perhaps that's the intention). According to the report, the leading candidate to replace Sessions would be EPA administrator Scott Pruitt. Perhaps most consequential for Robert Mueller’s investigation, sources said Trump has discussed a plan to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions. According to two Republicans in regular contact with the White House, there have been talks that Trump could replace Sessions with E.P.A. Administrator Scott Pruitt, who would not be recused from overseeing the Russia probe. Also, because Pruitt is already a Cabinet secretary, he would not have to go through another Senate confirmation hearing. In another (perhaps expected) revelation, Sherman reports that Trump has been quietly grumbling about Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, telling advisors that he wished they'd move back to New York City as Kushner being stripped of his temporary security clearance has become a hindrance to performing his duties as a senior advisor to the president. Then there is the question of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s futures. Trump has told people for months that he wants them to go back to New York. "Trump wants them out of there. He thinks they’ve been getting hit too hard," a friend of the president said. But Javanka are digging in, sources said. "They’ve damaged us so much already. What else can they say about us?" Kushner recently said, according to a person who spoke with him. "And if we go back to New York, they’ll keep attacking. So what do we have to lose?" In recent days, the couple have argued for their continued relevance by cooperating with pieces in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Sources said that if Kelly is forced out, Jared and Ivanka will fight to stay on. And that's not all: Earlier this week, it was reported that Trump is preparing to also fire HR McMaster, his National Security Adviser. McMaster was appointed hastily in the aftermath of Mike Flynn's firing, and has refused to parrot the president's views about whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election, earning him the ire of Breitbart and most of the "alt-right." That news followed another report earlier this month suggesting that Chief of Staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis had struck a deal to push out McMaster and install one of their proteges. To summarize: the firing of Rex Tillerson was just the first in a series of terminations planned by what now appears to be a far more confident and empowered Trump. And judging by the market's reaction today, risk assets are finally starting to get concerned. MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-14/trump-plans-fire-jeff-sessions-vanity-fair Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:There goes sig with zerohedge again. I suggest you all just skip right past her posts that include that source as I do. She continues to go there because mainstream doesn't twist the facts to create an alternate truth that suits her. SIGs a regular Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne likes alternative facts too. - THUGR Once again, THUGR is either too stupid or too lazy to follow a simple embedded link, or is totally ignorant of what a "news aggregator" is, or just likes to lie about ... well, everything. The article about Jeff Sessions et al was originally sourced from VANITY FAIR. I guess you don't like VANITY FAIR, THUGR??? Well, neither do it, but now we get a chance to see whether this source got it right, or not. Quote: “Trump Wants Them Out of There”: After Swinging the Axe at Tillerson, Trump Mulls What to Do with McMaster, Sessions, Jared, and Ivanka rom the moment Donald Trump appointed Chief of Staff John Kelly last summer, he vented to friends and advisers that Kelly was too overbearing, preventing him from acting on his instincts and impulses, the things that got him elected president. To truly be himself, Trump turned to Twitter and Fox & Friends. But over the past week, even though Kelly is still nominally on the scene, his presidency has entered a new phase—one in which Trump feels emboldened to throw off the shackles that have thus far constrained him. In the span of a few days, Trump launched a global trade war by imposing new steel and aluminum tariffs; stunned the world by making a snap decision to sit down with Kim Jong Un at a nuclear summit this spring; fired his long-suffering secretary of state, Rex Tillerson; and appointed notorious supply-sider Larry Kudlow. “The president is finally realizing he is the president,” a former White House official told me. “He’s just making these decisions on his own.” Speaking to reporters shortly after tweeting that he had replaced Tillerson at Foggy Bottom with hardline C.I.A. Director Mike Pompeo, Trump indicated he would soon move against his remaining antagonists, many of whom he appointed with glee, in the executive branch. “I’m really at a point where we’re getting very close to having the Cabinet and other things that I want,” he said. MORE AT https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/trump-swinging-the-axe-at-tillerson-mcmaster-sessions-jared-and-ivanka They're different you ass. Like I've said here many many times. You post from zerohedge who manipulates and alters stories to suggest they infer something other than what the author intended. Even if it's just the tone or mood the author intended. Look up inflection. Once such change is the line, and I quote, "After Swinging the Axe at Tillerson," Show me were it says that in the first one. These stories barely resemble each other and you are nothing more than a troll for suggesting they are one and the same. T
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Trump Plans To Fire Jeff Sessions: Report As if the abrupt firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson - and countless others in recent weeks and months - wasn't enough of a surprise, President Donald Trump on Tuesday told an incredulous group of reporters that Tillerson's head wouldn't be the last to roll. The moment had all the hallmarks of a paradigm shift: with his approval rating at post-election highs (according to Rasmussen), an emboldened Trump is reworking the famous phrase "let Trump be Trump" by being more assertive on policy and personnel.And today, Vanity Fair reported that Trump is planning to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions - a decision that would certainly complicate Robert Mueller's investigation (perhaps that's the intention). According to the report, the leading candidate to replace Sessions would be EPA administrator Scott Pruitt. Perhaps most consequential for Robert Mueller’s investigation, sources said Trump has discussed a plan to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions. According to two Republicans in regular contact with the White House, there have been talks that Trump could replace Sessions with E.P.A. Administrator Scott Pruitt, who would not be recused from overseeing the Russia probe. Also, because Pruitt is already a Cabinet secretary, he would not have to go through another Senate confirmation hearing. In another (perhaps expected) revelation, Sherman reports that Trump has been quietly grumbling about Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, telling advisors that he wished they'd move back to New York City as Kushner being stripped of his temporary security clearance has become a hindrance to performing his duties as a senior advisor to the president. Then there is the question of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s futures. Trump has told people for months that he wants them to go back to New York. "Trump wants them out of there. He thinks they’ve been getting hit too hard," a friend of the president said. But Javanka are digging in, sources said. "They’ve damaged us so much already. What else can they say about us?" Kushner recently said, according to a person who spoke with him. "And if we go back to New York, they’ll keep attacking. So what do we have to lose?" In recent days, the couple have argued for their continued relevance by cooperating with pieces in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Sources said that if Kelly is forced out, Jared and Ivanka will fight to stay on. And that's not all: Earlier this week, it was reported that Trump is preparing to also fire HR McMaster, his National Security Adviser. McMaster was appointed hastily in the aftermath of Mike Flynn's firing, and has refused to parrot the president's views about whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election, earning him the ire of Breitbart and most of the "alt-right." That news followed another report earlier this month suggesting that Chief of Staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis had struck a deal to push out McMaster and install one of their proteges. To summarize: the firing of Rex Tillerson was just the first in a series of terminations planned by what now appears to be a far more confident and empowered Trump. And judging by the market's reaction today, risk assets are finally starting to get concerned. MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-14/trump-plans-fire-jeff-sessions-vanity-fair
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:There goes sig with zerohedge again. I suggest you all just skip right past her posts that include that source as I do. She continues to go there because mainstream doesn't twist the facts to create an alternate truth that suits her. SIGs a regular Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne likes alternative facts too. - THUGR Once again, THUGR is either too stupid or too lazy to follow a simple embedded link, or is totally ignorant of what a "news aggregator" is, or just likes to lie about ... well, everything. The article about Jeff Sessions et al was originally sourced from VANITY FAIR. I guess you don't like VANITY FAIR, THUGR??? Well, neither do it, but now we get a chance to see whether this source got it right, or not. Quote: “Trump Wants Them Out of There”: After Swinging the Axe at Tillerson, Trump Mulls What to Do with McMaster, Sessions, Jared, and Ivanka rom the moment Donald Trump appointed Chief of Staff John Kelly last summer, he vented to friends and advisers that Kelly was too overbearing, preventing him from acting on his instincts and impulses, the things that got him elected president. To truly be himself, Trump turned to Twitter and Fox & Friends. But over the past week, even though Kelly is still nominally on the scene, his presidency has entered a new phase—one in which Trump feels emboldened to throw off the shackles that have thus far constrained him. In the span of a few days, Trump launched a global trade war by imposing new steel and aluminum tariffs; stunned the world by making a snap decision to sit down with Kim Jong Un at a nuclear summit this spring; fired his long-suffering secretary of state, Rex Tillerson; and appointed notorious supply-sider Larry Kudlow. “The president is finally realizing he is the president,” a former White House official told me. “He’s just making these decisions on his own.” Speaking to reporters shortly after tweeting that he had replaced Tillerson at Foggy Bottom with hardline C.I.A. Director Mike Pompeo, Trump indicated he would soon move against his remaining antagonists, many of whom he appointed with glee, in the executive branch. “I’m really at a point where we’re getting very close to having the Cabinet and other things that I want,” he said. MORE AT https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/trump-swinging-the-axe-at-tillerson-mcmaster-sessions-jared-and-ivanka
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: It's not funny Jack. You need to face it and change it. T
Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:44 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If Trump now feels freer to implement the policies that he ran on, I see both a number of up-sides and down-sides. Thoughts?
Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:11 PM
Quote:Even if it's just the tone or mood the author intended. - THUGR
Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Even if it's just the tone or mood the author intended. - THUGR So, nothing ON THE TOPIC of "letting Trump be Trump"? I THOUGHT NOT.
Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:01 PM
Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If you don't like the ZH article, how about the Vanity Fair article? After all, it's a source you trust!
Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:36 PM
Quote: Not the point is it sig.- THUGR
Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Not the point is it sig.- THUGR "The point" is the title/ topic of the post ... something YOU seem to keep trying to divert. So, do you have anything ON TOPIC to post?? Apparently not! As far as what ZH posts, as long as they link the original article, and people [like you] aren't too stupid or too lazy to click on it and track it down for themselves I don't care what kind of "spin" they put on it. They are a NEWS AGGREGATOR. I read ZH for the headlines because they post a different mix of stories. If I'm particularly interested in a story, I'll go to their links, or to other media, to get a different POV.
Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:34 PM
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Friday, March 16, 2018 7:46 AM
Quote:Trump decides to remove national security adviser [McMaster] and others may follow President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser and is actively discussing potential replacements, according to five people with knowledge of the plans, preparing to deliver yet another jolt to the senior ranks of his administration. Trump is now comfortable with ousting McMaster, with whom he never personally gelled, but is willing to take time executing the move because he wants to ensure both that the three-star Army general is not humiliated and that there is a strong successor lined up, these people said. The turbulence is part of a broader potential shake-up under consideration by Trump that is likely to include senior officials at the White House, where staffers are gripped by fear and uncertainty as they await the next move from an impulsive president who enjoys stoking conflict. For all of the evident disorder, Trump feels emboldened, advisers said — buoyed by what he views as triumphant decisions last week to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum and to agree to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. The president is enjoying the process of assessing his team and making changes, tightening his inner circle to those he considers survivors and who respect his unconventional style, one senior White House official said. White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders pushed back late Thursday on Twitter: “Just spoke @POTUS and Gen H.R. McMaster. Contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the NSC.”
Friday, March 16, 2018 9:39 PM
Quote: Correction: Trump’s Pick to Head CIA Did Not Oversee Waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah ProPublica erred when it reported in 2017 that Gina Haspel was in charge of a secret prison in Thailand during the infamous interrogation of an al-Qaida suspect. On Feb. 22, 2017, ProPublica published a story that inaccurately described Gina Haspel’s role in the treatment of Abu Zubaydah, a suspected al-Qaida leader who was imprisoned by the CIA at a secret “black site” in Thailand in 2002. The story said that Haspel, a career CIA officer who President Trump has nominated to be the next director of central intelligence, oversaw the clandestine base where Zubaydah was subjected to waterboarding and other coercive interrogation methods that are widely seen as torture. The story also said she mocked the prisoner’s suffering in a private conversation. Neither of these assertions is correct and we retract them. It is now clear that Haspel did not take charge of the base until after the interrogation of Zubaydah ended.
Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, I guess Trump's pick for CIA head is not as bad a Pro Publica reported ...
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