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Monday, December 4, 2017 12:45 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I read the breakdown of the tax bill that you showed me the other day. There's nothing in there that hurts the 99%, at least how that was broken down.
Monday, December 4, 2017 1:21 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I read the breakdown of the tax bill that you showed me the other day. There's nothing in there that hurts the 99%, at least how that was broken down.It increases the National Debt by $trillions. I believe you were concerned that the $trillions in quantitative easing would eventually ruin the lives of Americans but now you have overlooked the new $trillions in National Debt. Maybe you ought to change your opinion about the benefits for yourself from that tax bill?
Quote:I'll not change my opinion because the tax bill will immensely benefit me. I loved quantitative easing and love that tax bill. I will love it when Trump signs it into law. It shall be a day of celebration!
Monday, December 4, 2017 9:06 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: President
Quote:a slime-ball, non-aristocrat, pathetic, bad joke. ... But with his foolish egomania, he's dangerous, too. Used to be, we often elected Statesmen, professionals in governing. Our second choice was often a general. Guys who could spell and define "responsibility." ... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Monday, December 4, 2017 9:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe giving up arguing with liberal meat-puppets. 1 year later and still waiting for something...anything to happen is all. “The president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the constitution’s Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.” Contradicting Trump's lawyer is Bob Bauer, a New York University law professor and former White House counsel to Barack Obama, who said: “It is certainly possible for a president to obstruct justice.”
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe giving up arguing with liberal meat-puppets. 1 year later and still waiting for something...anything to happen is all.
Monday, December 4, 2017 9:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump’s lawyer: the president can’t obstruct justice. 13 legal experts: yes, he can.Quote:I believe the better view, supported by a reading of the Constitution, is that the president cannot say to a prosecutor, "I know Person A lied to you, which is a felony, but you should drop the investigation against Person A." Those who drew up articles of impeachment against former Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton clearly thought the president could be guilty of obstruction of justice because that charge was included against both of them. Quote:If the president interferes or impedes an FBI investigation with "corrupt intent," that's obstruction of justice under 18 USC 1512(c)(2). Trump has essentially confessed three times to his corrupt intent in firing Comey: on May 10 in the Oval Office, on May 11 to NBC's Lester Holt, and then in his tweet on Saturday (awareness that Flynn had committed a crime). www.vox.com/2017/12/4/16733422/fbi-deal-trump-flynn-russia-comey Very few Republican voters will understand what is wrong with "obstructing justice" in either the legal sense or the commonsense definitions, therefore there will be no consequences whatsoever for Trump. The Democrat Senators are not numerous enough to make consequences.
Quote:I believe the better view, supported by a reading of the Constitution, is that the president cannot say to a prosecutor, "I know Person A lied to you, which is a felony, but you should drop the investigation against Person A." Those who drew up articles of impeachment against former Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton clearly thought the president could be guilty of obstruction of justice because that charge was included against both of them.
Quote:If the president interferes or impedes an FBI investigation with "corrupt intent," that's obstruction of justice under 18 USC 1512(c)(2). Trump has essentially confessed three times to his corrupt intent in firing Comey: on May 10 in the Oval Office, on May 11 to NBC's Lester Holt, and then in his tweet on Saturday (awareness that Flynn had committed a crime).
Monday, December 4, 2017 9:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I read the breakdown of the tax bill that you showed me the other day. There's nothing in there that hurts the 99%, at least how that was broken down.It increases the National Debt by $trillions. I believe you were concerned that the $trillions in quantitative easing would eventually ruin the lives of Americans but now you have overlooked the new $trillions in National Debt. Maybe you ought to change your opinion about the benefits for yourself from that tax bill? It said that part of the tax plan is to increase the national debt in ten years by 2 Trillion, which as bad as that sounds is severely putting the breaks on the additions after they gained great speed with GWB's administration (Doubled it) and went completely off the rails during Obama's administration (Further tripled it). An increase of 2 Trillion is tiny compared to the existing national debt. That's why I stated earlier that I don't believe that projection, but that IS the proposed projection under the tax plan. Quote:I'll not change my opinion because the tax bill will immensely benefit me. I loved quantitative easing and love that tax bill. I will love it when Trump signs it into law. It shall be a day of celebration! This comes as absolutely no surprise to me or anyone else on this board. You LOVE to virtue signal all day long, but at the end of the day you're just a greedy elitist. If you actually gave two shits about anybody you're supposedly "fighting" for, you'd be talking about how you were going to take those millions of unearned dollars you're going to be getting and donating them or doing missionary work with them. But you're not going to do that are you, armchair warrior. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, December 4, 2017 11:14 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe giving up arguing with liberal meat-puppets. 1 year later and still waiting for something...anything to happen is all. “The president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the constitution’s Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.” Contradicting Trump's lawyer is Bob Bauer, a New York University law professor and former White House counsel to Barack Obama, who said: “It is certainly possible for a president to obstruct justice.” Well, of all people, certainly he who would know best is Obamination's White House Counsel.
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, 40+ others in GOP Congress think obstruction of justice should get a President removed Although Trump's personal lawyer John Dowd conveniently thinks that U.S. presidents are above the law and can't be removed from office for obstructing justice, Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, and dozens of other GOP members of Congress disagree. At least they strongly disagreed back in 1999, when it suited their agenda to get Bill Clinton impeached for his obstruction of justice during the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Back then, Jeff Sessions, an Alabama Senator said, “The facts are disturbing and compelling on the President's intent to obstruct justice." And Sessions wasn't alone. According to Politico: More than 40 current GOP members of Congress voted for the impeachment or removal of Clinton from office for obstruction of justice. They include Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell – who mounted his own passionate appeal to remove Clinton from office for obstruction of justice – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, who was a House member at the time. https://boingboing.net/2017/12/04/jeff-sessions-mitch-mcconnell.html Sessions argued in Clinton impeachment that presidents can obstruct justice https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/04/jeff-sessions-president-obstruct-justice-bill-clinton-278517
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, 40+ others in GOP Congress think obstruction of justice should get a President removed Although Trump's personal lawyer John Dowd conveniently thinks that U.S. presidents are above the law and can't be removed from office for obstructing justice, Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, and dozens of other GOP members of Congress disagree. At least they strongly disagreed back in 1999, when it suited their agenda to get Bill Clinton impeached for his obstruction of justice during the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Back then, Jeff Sessions, an Alabama Senator said, “The facts are disturbing and compelling on the President's intent to obstruct justice." And Sessions wasn't alone. According to Politico: More than 40 current GOP members of Congress voted for the impeachment or removal of Clinton from office for obstruction of justice. They include Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell – who mounted his own passionate appeal to remove Clinton from office for obstruction of justice – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, who was a House member at the time. https://boingboing.net/2017/12/04/jeff-sessions-mitch-mcconnell.html Sessions argued in Clinton impeachment that presidents can obstruct justice https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/04/jeff-sessions-president-obstruct-justice-bill-clinton-278517
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 10:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I read the breakdown of the tax bill that you showed me the other day. There's nothing in there that hurts the 99%, at least how that was broken down.It increases the National Debt by $trillions. I believe you were concerned that the $trillions in quantitative easing would eventually ruin the lives of Americans but now you have overlooked the new $trillions in National Debt. Maybe you ought to change your opinion about the benefits for yourself from that tax bill? It said that part of the tax plan is to increase the national debt in ten years by 2 Trillion, which as bad as that sounds is severely putting the breaks on the additions after they gained great speed with GWB's administration (Doubled it) and went completely off the rails during Obama's administration (Further tripled it). An increase of 2 Trillion is tiny compared to the existing national debt. That's why I stated earlier that I don't believe that projection, but that IS the proposed projection under the tax plan. Quote:I'll not change my opinion because the tax bill will immensely benefit me. I loved quantitative easing and love that tax bill. I will love it when Trump signs it into law. It shall be a day of celebration! This comes as absolutely no surprise to me or anyone else on this board. You LOVE to virtue signal all day long, but at the end of the day you're just a greedy elitist. If you actually gave two shits about anybody you're supposedly "fighting" for, you'd be talking about how you were going to take those millions of unearned dollars you're going to be getting and donating them or doing missionary work with them. But you're not going to do that are you, armchair warrior. Do Right, Be Right. :)Six, you almost exposed the numbers here. But good to spotlight Second's duplicity. I don't have a great breakdown right this moment, but on this day 2000 the Federal Debt was 5.6 Trillion, before Bush43 took office. His original proposal to reduce the DEBT (immediately eliminating the Deficit) was so aggressive that it eliminated the DEBT within 10 years (2010). But that did not include funding the War to resolve Clinton's flirtations with and avoidance of Osama. So by 2004 the DEBT was 7.3 Trillion, an increase of 1.7 Trillion in 4 years. By 2007, before the Rock The Vote Democraps hadvtheir Budget reins in effect, the DEBT was 8.9 Trillion, an increase of 1.6 Trillion in 3 years. By 2008 the Rock The Vote Democraps had a full year of Budget reins and cranked up the Debt to almost 10 Trillion, or 1.1 Trillion in a 1-year span. Now the Debt is 20.6 Trillion. And Second is hysterical about a 2 Trillion increase over 10 years?
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah... Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make. I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah... Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make. I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”. “If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement. Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-handed-over-robert-mueller Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday. Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime. The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit. A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions. Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods. “One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers. The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt. www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 2:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Schiff? Is this the partisan hack assclown that investigated but couldn't find anything wrong with Hilliary deleting Federal Records emails nor her disastrous negligence of Benghazi? We should for sure believe everything he spouts, totally.
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 4:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah... Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make. I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”. “If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement. Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-handed-over-robert-mueller Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday. Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime. The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit. A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions. Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods. “One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers. The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt. www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN Schiff? Is this the partisan hack assclown that investigated but couldn't find anything wrong with Hilliary deleting Federal Records emails nor her disastrous negligence of Benghazi? We should for sure believe everything he spouts, totally.
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 5:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah... Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make. I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”. “If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement. Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-handed-over-robert-mueller Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday. Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime. The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit. A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions. Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods. “One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers. The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt. www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 6:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: See what I mean, JSF? Not an argument there. Just another personal insult (this time about how much money he has compared to me), and then a link completely off topic). Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, December 5, 2017 10:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yeah... Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make. I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”. “If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement. Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-handed-over-robert-mueller Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday. Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime. The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit. A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions. Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods. “One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers. The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt. www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN See what I mean, JSF? Not an argument there. Just another personal insult (this time about how much money he has compared to me), and then a link completely off topic). Do Right, Be Right. :)
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OONJERAH
Thursday, December 21, 2017 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: I don't see anything strange about that. Doesn't our PotUS emulate them Repressive guys? ... as well as them Groper guys? ... oooOO}{OOooo ...
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Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: The president’s public denunciation of Bannon came only after a report early Wednesday, based on excerpts from a forthcoming book, that quoted Bannon condemning as “treasonous” a June 2016 meeting in which Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, met with Kremlin-linked Russians to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. “Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ... and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately,” Bannon reportedly said.
Thursday, January 4, 2018 7:46 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: How the FBI Russia investigation really began: Not a dossier, but 'firsthand information' The FBI opened its investigation long before the election, not on the basis of the dossier or any other opposition research. The investigation began because a member of Trump’s own campaign blabbed to foreign officials that the Trump campaign had knowledge about Russia’s role in stealing information from Democratic officials. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/30/1728645/-How-the-FBI-Russia-investigation-really-began-Not-a-dossier-but-firsthand-information
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Hey.... so is Bannon a good guy now?
Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:25 AM
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JO753
rezident owtsidr
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno, there are MANY reasons to not like Trump, but being a Russian stooge isn't one of them.
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Thursday, January 4, 2018 12:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: How the FBI Russia investigation really began: Not a dossier, but 'firsthand information' The FBI opened its investigation long before the election, not on the basis of the dossier or any other opposition research. The investigation began because a member of Trump’s own campaign blabbed to foreign officials that the Trump campaign had knowledge about Russia’s role in stealing information from Democratic officials. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/30/1728645/-How-the-FBI-Russia-investigation-really-began-Not-a-dossier-but-firsthand-information So why did it take the investigative team a year to finally get around to questioning the person who supposedly "started" the investigation in the first place? It's a pretty thin story, and just more starting-line-moving from the anti-Trump faction as they try to justify a really stupid (and probably criminal) action. Yanno, there are MANY reasons to not like Trump, but being a Russian stooge isn't one of them.
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I guess.
Friday, January 5, 2018 4:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump’s behavior is consistent with two diametrically opposite conclusions. It’s consistent with the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia in some way and is desperate to cover it up. But it’s also consistent with the possibility that Trump is entirely innocent. A person with Trump’s volcanic temper and bottomless feelings of grievance would probably react exactly the way he has if he had done nothing wrong. So far, all the evidence we’ve seen publicly has come tantalizingly close to obstruction of justice, but has never quite gotten there. But even if it doesn’t, the precise legal definitions of obstruction apply only in a courtroom, not in an impeachment trial. The kinds of things Trump has done are more than enough to constitute a “high crime” if enough members of Congress think it does. At the moment, Republicans prefer keeping Trump in office. But if they ever decide he’s too big an albatross and they’d rather deal with President Pence, Mueller is almost certain to give them enough to make a case with.
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Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump’s behavior is consistent with two diametrically opposite conclusions. It’s consistent with the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia in some way and is desperate to cover it up. But it’s also consistent with the possibility that Trump is entirely innocent. A person with Trump’s volcanic temper and bottomless feelings of grievance would probably react exactly the way he has if he had done nothing wrong. So far, all the evidence we’ve seen publicly has come tantalizingly close to obstruction of justice, but has never quite gotten there. But even if it doesn’t, the precise legal definitions of obstruction apply only in a courtroom, not in an impeachment trial. The kinds of things Trump has done are more than enough to constitute a “high crime” if enough members of Congress think it does. At the moment, Republicans prefer keeping Trump in office. But if they ever decide he’s too big an albatross and they’d rather deal with President Pence, Mueller is almost certain to give them enough to make a case with. It's called due process. Which is why Mueller needs to see this through. T
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