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Friday, November 10, 2017 8:54 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: If you meet the requirements ( slightly to the right, middle and liberal ) and you have an interest in starting a discussion say so.
Friday, November 10, 2017 9:02 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, November 10, 2017 9:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: How about editing the title, then? By the way, your "requirements" are self-contradictory. How can anyone be a slightly to the right and liberal? Or maybe what you meant was: Slightly to the right, middle, OR liberal. THAT would make more sense! Anyway, it's not the same as your title, so change one or the other.
Friday, November 10, 2017 9:22 PM
Quote:Why, I'm registered as a democrat in my state.
Friday, November 10, 2017 9:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Why, I'm registered as a democrat in my state. Then why did you say you were an independent?
Quote: Why, I'm registered as a democrat in my state.
Friday, November 10, 2017 9:31 PM
Quote: Why, I'm registered as a democrat in my state. - THUGR Then why did you say you were an independent?- SIGNY Because I am a recovering democrat. That means I vote for the best candidate not along party lines.- TYHUGR
Friday, November 10, 2017 9:41 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:50 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I am an independent myself- THUGR BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Then what the hell are you doing in this thread? It's for DEMOCRATS, remember? Now, since I happen to be one, I guess I can tell you to get the hell out?
Quote: I am an independent myself- THUGR
Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:32 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, I'm a recovering Democrat too! I too fight against lunacy! It seems we have a lot in common!
Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:55 AM
Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Why, I'm registered as a democrat in my state. - THUGR Then why did you say you were an independent?- SIGNY Because I am a recovering democrat. That means I vote for the best candidate not along party lines.- TYHUGR Well, I'm a recovering Democrat too! I too fight against lunacy! It seems we have a lot in common!
Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, I'm a recovering Democrat too! I too fight against lunacy! It seems we have a lot in common! Does the "fight against lunacy" mean action in the real world, beyond fireflyfans.net? You don't appear to be a Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death" type nor a "The pen is mightier than the sword" type. How does a Russian troll (that is the nicest interpretation of what you do here at ff.net) "fight against lunacy" when you are not posting at ff.net? The Trolley Problem will tell you nothing useful about morality www.currentaffairs.org/2017/11/the-trolley-problem-will-tell-you-nothing-useful-about-morality But actually, once you get away from the world of ludicrous extremes in which every choice leads to bloodshed, large numbers of moral questions are incredibly easy. The hard thing is not “figuring out what the right thing to do is” but “mustering the courage and selflessness to actually do it.” In real life, the main moral problem is that the world has a lot of suffering and hardship in it, and most of us are doing very little to stop it. If we must put everything in terms of trolleys, the closer parallel would be: a trolley is bearing down on five people, and someone says to you “If you give me your money, I can save them.” You immediately get quite uncomfortable because you wanted to buy something, and come up with a sheepish rationalization like “Uh, well, I can’t just go around giving money to anybody who asks me, it’s not sustainable.” (Then everyone dies.)
Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: BIG SPOILER ALERT FOR THE GOOD PLACE!!! I prefer the comedy of the trolley dilemma solution on the Good Place. A.K.A. Second is not nearly as deep as he would have you believe him to be. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:08 PM
Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yep, a troll paid by the gif. I'll see you one and raise you one
Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:46 AM
Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:24 PM
Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: BIG SPOILER ALERT FOR THE GOOD PLACE!!! I prefer the comedy of the trolley dilemma solution on the Good Place. A.K.A. Second is not nearly as deep as he would have you believe him to be. Do Right, Be Right. :) His posts suggests he is a thinker Jack. Just as yours suggest you are sick and not. Excuse me for leaving your cartoon illustration massacre of people video out of my response to you. It's just I don't post videos of that nature. Full disclosure, I didn't bother to watch it either. SECONDS however was very interesting.
Monday, November 13, 2017 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Still being paid by the gif, comrade troll THUGR? What's the matter- words failing you, again?
Monday, November 13, 2017 12:35 PM
Quote: Still being paid by the gif, comrade troll THUGR? What's the matter- words failing you, again? You and kiki are just to stupid. I'll show you why. So, according to you and kiki now I'm a Russian troll. OK, I believe Russia is full of nothing but losers. It's nothing more than a gas station for Europeans run by a bunch of drunks and criminals. I think Putins hates gays because he is one. And sooner rather than later Trump will be gone and Putins will get his. Right up the ass. What do you think of Russia sig, kiki? Our actual Russian trolls. What do you think about Russia?- THUGR
Monday, November 13, 2017 12:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Still being paid by the gif, comrade troll THUGR? What's the matter- words failing you, again? You and kiki are just to stupid. I'll show you why. So, according to you and kiki now I'm a Russian troll. OK, I believe Russia is full of nothing but losers. It's nothing more than a gas station for Europeans run by a bunch of drunks and criminals. I think Putins hates gays because he is one. And sooner rather than later Trump will be gone and Putins will get his. Right up the ass. What do you think of Russia sig, kiki? Our actual Russian trolls. What do you think about Russia?- THUGR What I have observed it that - after the USA militarily surrounded Russia; attempted to destroy it with a combination of sanctions, oil price war, and an attack on the ruble; illegally knocked over a series of governments in the Middle east and fomented "color revolutions" elsewhere; and withdrawn from missile treaties; and in addition ... Attempted to open up another front by "pivoting east" to China ... 1) Russia has gone on a war footing, and 2) Russia and China have been thrown into each other's arms. Like I said: self-created problems. I think you think far too much about Russia, and have invested far too much hate and bile towards Putin because you're Russian. Personally, I mostly don't care about what goes on in Russia except as it relates to us Americans. And since I think that nearly all of our worst problems (debt, climate change, wealth inequality, corruption, overextended imperial ambitions, corrosion of civil liberties, monopolism etc.) are self-inflicted and have nothing much to do with Russia, I don't think much about Russia.
Monday, November 13, 2017 4:33 PM
Quote:Still being paid by the gif, comrade troll THUGR? What's the matter- words failing you, again?- SIGNY You and kiki are just to stupid. I'll show you why. So, according to you and kiki now I'm a Russian troll. OK, I believe Russia is full of nothing but losers. It's nothing more than a gas station for Europeans run by a bunch of drunks and criminals. I think Putins hates gays because he is one. And sooner rather than later Trump will be gone and Putins will get his. Right up the ass. What do you think of Russia sig, kiki? Our actual Russian trolls. What do you think about Russia?- THUGR I DON"'T THINK MUCH ABOUT RUSSIA. What I have observed it that - after the USA militarily surrounded Russia; attempted to destroy it with a combination of sanctions, oil price war, and an attack on the ruble; illegally knocked over a series of governments in the Middle east and fomented "color revolutions" elsewhere; and withdrawn from missile treaties; and in addition ... Attempted to open up another front by "pivoting east" to China ... 1) Russia has gone on a war footing, and 2) Russia and China have been thrown into each other's arms. Like I said: self-created problems. I think you think far too much about Russia, and have invested far too much hate and bile towards Putin because you're Russian. Personally, I mostly don't care about what goes on in Russia except as it relates to us Americans. And since I think that nearly all of our worst problems (debt, climate change, wealth inequality, corruption, overextended imperial ambitions, corrosion of civil liberties, monopolism etc.) are self-inflicted and have nothing much to do with Russia, I don't think much about Russia.- SIGNY Just making a point sig. Normally I wouldn't post so negatively about the people of a particular country. In this case I did it to prove my point. - THUGR
Quote: Over the last couple of years you have had many opportunities to suggest Russia is wrong about this or that. -THUGR
Quote: Not once have you done anything but defend it. You say you only care about Russia as it applies to us Americans. Well, over the years you've taken their side on everything.
Quote:As you do here again. All the while attacking every aspect of democracy. - THUGR
Monday, November 13, 2017 5:52 PM
Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
Monday, November 13, 2017 6:08 PM
Quote:No sense responding to your last very long post sig.
Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:54 AM
Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:46 AM
Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:31 AM
Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And there is THUGR, shitting gifs again. Dood, all you're doing is expressing your "feelings". One of these days, you'll understand that "feeling" and "thinking" are two different things, and you'll bring some actual... yanno... thought to the board instead of gifs.
Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:37 PM
Quote:No sense responding to your last very long post sig.- THUGR
Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:No sense responding to your last very long post sig.- THUGR Once again, words failed him. You're a known liar and troll who can't back up anything that he says with anything like the truth. Every time you get your ass handed to you, you shit a gif and bail from the thread.
Friday, November 17, 2017 11:08 AM
Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:00 PM
Tuesday, November 21, 2017 8:35 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:58 PM
Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education SUCKS, and it’s the same reason it will never, ever, EVER be fixed. It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with what you’ve got. Because the owners, the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy… the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that! You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shitty jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fucking place! It's a big club, and you ain’t in it! You, and I, are not in the big club. By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a fuck about you….they don’t give a fuck about you… they don’t give a FUCK about you. They don’t care about you at all… at all… AT ALL. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
Wednesday, November 22, 2017 2:12 PM
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Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:35 PM
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Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: I like Gutierez. I dont hav anything agenst identity politics either. Peepl belong to groups and thoze groups need reprezentation. You can ritely claim that its bad for the country overall, but you cant chanje human nature overnite and you cant let the bad guyz be the only wunz utilizing this wepon. ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.7532020.com] I do have a problem with it. It is what's being practiced now by many Trump voters; White first. Do you have a problem with that? That is identity politics. The democrats are shaping their message and support to inner cities. This is where more votes are consolidated. They exclude the white voter that votes with them, in numbers that has allowed for the progressive advances in this country. They know we're here but they don't speak to our issues or even acknowledge us. They don't want to piss off the minorities who are angry about their circumstances. Why, because they blame Whites, all Whites. This is some of reason Trump won and Steve Bannon has found a foothold into our politics. There are a lot of Whites pissed off about the progressive message of democrats. The one that excludes them. Bannons' voice has always been there, but because of identity politics it has made it into the White house. T
Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:20 PM
Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: You dont need to exclude all other groups in order to address the greivansez uv 1 group. I dont no if the Demz are failing to do that or not, but I can see how peepl can perseiv it that way. Both partyz claim to be a 'big tent'. Lucky for the Demz, the GoP's tent now includez pedofilez and the KKK!
Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:26 PM
Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Although.... I do have to admit that when it comes to this topic, T, you actually do sound very wise. Of all the things we argue about, I've never once felt that you weren't completely on the money when it comes to the plague of identity politics in the media.
Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:08 PM
Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's not ignorance or hate. It's mistrust because nothing is news anymore. It's all editorials. Both "sides" are equally guilty of this. It's extremely rare that you can get any news today that isn't reported with bias. Most people are so entrenched on their own particular side that they don't even notice that it is there because they're hearing what they want to hear. I'm looking forward to when the media slamming of Trump dies down and we can actually go back to facts and I can start jumping all over him for the bullshit he's actually doing... which I'm sure there is plenty to bitch about. What the MSM is doing today is throwing out so much bullshit that it's impossible to keep up with any of it unless you make it a full-time job or at least a free-time consuming hobby like fantasy football (which many of you here seem to do). Both sides deal in hate. You notice it when you watch anything from Fox News, but you don't notice it when you watch CNN. The equal and opposite can be said about JSF with both news platforms.
Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: I do not respond to you under the delusion that I can enlighten you. As your posts continually show, you're someone who resists enlightenment. I do it because you continue to post foolishness which allows myself and others, to show how ignorant those who believe as you do are.
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