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Why Does the Kremlin Care So Much About the Magnitsky Act?

What Russian officials mean when they talk about “adoptions”

What made Russian officialdom so mad about the Magnitsky Act is that it was the first time that there was some kind of roadblock to getting stolen money to safety. In Russia, after all, officers and bureaucrats could steal it again, the same way they had stolen it in the first place: a raid, an extortion racket, a crooked court case with forged documents—the possibilities are endless. Protecting the money meant getting it out of Russia. But what happens if you get it out of Russia and it’s frozen by Western authorities? What’s the point of stealing all that money if you can’t enjoy the Miami condo it bought you? What’s the point if you can’t use it to travel to the Côte d’Azur in luxury?

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/magnitsky-ac
t-kremlin/535044/]

Trump - ever the child - when he mentioned that he and Putin "we actually talked about abortions" at the G20, he was really giving everyone else on planet earth the middle finger. Spoiled, petulant child that he is, he will get away with the 'tude for a while, but it will catch up to him.
I was listening to Glenn Beck of all people (always nice to hear other perspectives) and he had on Bill Broder, a client of Magnitsky's. Very, very interesting. Something's up when Beck and O'Reilly are having major second thoughts about Trump and Russia. It's only a matter of time. As I have said, it may not be "collusion" - more like obstruction and/or money laundering, but it's coming.

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Yep, somethings coming. And he is providing all the information we need to take him down. For all his disruptions and deflections, Mueller just marches on.

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If Browder’s claims are accurate, then, Russia’s interference in the U.S. election may have had as much to do with defending Vladimir Putin’s vast personal wealth as with advancing Russian state interests.

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If Browder’s claims are accurate, then, Russia’s interference in the U.S. election may have had as much to do with defending Vladimir Putin’s vast personal wealth as with advancing Russian state interests.

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I see a lot of claims, speculation, and unnamed sources. But no evidence.


http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-da
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... current and former officials tell ... investigators found ... two sources tell ... Investigators have not identified whether the hackers in that case were Russian agents. (But immediately afterwards, the article points to the Russians.) the probes into Russian attempts to influence the election ... stolen by Russian state actors ... whether any of this stolen private information ... two sources ... looking at whether ... could ... Russia’s larger strategic goals of undermining U.S. democracy, hurting Hillary Clinton and helping Donald Trump. ... fearing Russia might ... Current and former law enforcement and intelligence officials say ... Russia ... could ... could ... Cyber-security officials ... a senior official ... extent of the Russian effort ... The Russian efforts ... Russian agents ... gained sufficient access ... Russian attack ...

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When it comes to what Putin sees as a success and as a failure, remember, it’s not about politics. It’s about money. Vladimir Putin is reportedly richer than Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos combined. (And he’s never even given a second thought to providing free shipping…)
http://fortune.com/2017/07/29/vladimir-putin-russia-jeff-bezos-bill-ga
tes-worlds-richest-man/

Bill Browder made the claim before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday. He is one of the best authorities on Putin's business dealings.
www.voanews.com/a/terrible-crimes-made-putin-world-richest-person-fina
ncier-tells-senators/3961955.html

Browder cooperated with Putin in anticorruption efforts, but eventually found himself targeted by Putin. That conflict led to the jailing and death of Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, and in turn to the Magnitsky Act sanctions against certain Russian oligarchs by the U.S.

According to Browder’s testimony, Putin amassed his vast wealth by using political clout to coerce Russians who made investments to simply hand over large chunks of their holdings to him. Browder claims Putin has a personal interest in reversing the Magnitsky Act, since many of those impacted by it hold Putin’s money for him. According to Browder, that includes some in U.S. institutions that is frozen or at risk of seizure.

If Browder’s claims are accurate, then, Russia’s interference in the U.S. election may have had as much to do with defending Vladimir Putin’s vast personal wealth as with advancing Russian state interests.

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We have the risk that Putin will do something stupid because he knows that Trump is a buffoon who’s unlikely to stop him.

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Remember a month or two ago when Putin had his hand up Trump's ass?

Funny how the narrative changes all the time with Trump being the bad guy, huh?

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Remember a month or two ago when Putin had his hand up Trump's ass?

Funny how the narrative changes all the time with Trump being the bad guy, huh?

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Why Does the Kremlin Care So Much About the Magnitsky Act?

What Russian officials mean when they talk about “adoptions”

What made Russian officialdom so mad about the Magnitsky Act is that it was the first time that there was some kind of roadblock to getting stolen money to safety. In Russia, after all, officers and bureaucrats could steal it again, the same way they had stolen it in the first place: a raid, an extortion racket, a crooked court case with forged documents—the possibilities are endless. Protecting the money meant getting it out of Russia. But what happens if you get it out of Russia and it’s frozen by Western authorities? What’s the point of stealing all that money if you can’t enjoy the Miami condo it bought you? What’s the point if you can’t use it to travel to the Côte d’Azur in luxury?

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/magnitsky-ac
t-kremlin/535044/]

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