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Trump launches missiles against Syria; more false flags planned?
Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:02 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:As previewed earlier tonight, the United States fired a barrage of cruise missiles into Syria on Friday morning in retaliation for this week's alleged chemical weapons attack against civilians by the Assad regime, U.S. officials said. It was the first direct American assault on the Syrian government and Donald Trump's most dramatic military order since becoming president. According to NBC, only tomahawks missiles fired, no fixed wing aircraft involved, for now. As AP notes, the surprise strike marked a striking reversal for Trump, who warned as a candidate against the U.S. getting pulled into the Syrian civil war, now in its seventh year. But the president appeared moved by the photos of children killed in the chemical attack, calling it a "disgrace to humanity" that crossed "a lot of lines."
Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:08 PM
RIVERLOVE
Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:41 PM
Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:44 PM
Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:56 PM
Friday, April 7, 2017 12:58 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So YAY! for the neocons! They got their licks in.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: One thing occurs to me: Trump is trying to make headway with Xi Jingping on N Korea. Perhaps this is a warning shot against THEIR bow. Not so much Syria's.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I would feel a lot more reassured if there was at least some regular communication between the Trump admin and Russia.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:00 AM
Friday, April 7, 2017 4:23 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Friday, April 7, 2017 6:01 AM
6STRINGJOKER
Friday, April 7, 2017 6:43 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: And Barry Manilow announced that he's been GAY since forever. What a week!
Friday, April 7, 2017 6:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: One thing occurs to me: Trump is trying to make headway with Xi Jingping on N Korea. Perhaps this is a warning shot against THEIR bow. Not so much Syria's. ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
Friday, April 7, 2017 8:21 AM
THGRRI
Friday, April 7, 2017 8:28 AM
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:06 AM
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:07 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: It was time to embarrass Russia. We just bombed the shit out of their allie while they were in the room. So, I said, watch what happens next. We did it. I also said, lets see what the big bad Russians do. Personally I'm terrified. Iran Turkey China North Korea
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Of course Putin will be forced to do something to please his people, who will not be happy if he just twiddles his thumbs.
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: It was time to embarrass Russia. We just bombed the shit out of their allie while they were in the room. So, I said, watch what happens next. We did it. I also said, lets see what the big bad Russians do. Personally I'm terrified. Iran Turkey China North Korea This is standard stuff for presidents who want to "send a message." Cruise missiles cause some damage but don't endanger any American lives. We'll see if Trump takes things any further. Marco Rubio is on my TV right now calling this a great thing. "It's not a message, it's an actual degrading of their capabilities." If Obama had done something like this, Rubio would have contemptuously called it a pinprick. www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/04/trump-bombs-syria The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:29 AM
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:46 AM
Quote:Fearing the grave risk of killing Russian military personnel on the ground in Syria, the United States military gave Russia advance notice before launching cruise missile strikes overnight on a Syrian air base that is used to store chemical weapons, according to a U.S. intelligence assessment.
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:50 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Meh. Nick. I would've gone with the pnac list, Agh, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Dudan, Yemen, Syria, Iran. But seeing as we might have just bombed a Chinese base in Syria, Maybe you're right. I think it was a move to fake out the deep state, and no actual war is coming. Of course Putin will be forced to do something to please his people, who will not be happy if he just twiddles his thumbs.
Friday, April 7, 2017 10:58 AM
Friday, April 7, 2017 11:00 AM
Friday, April 7, 2017 11:01 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step.
Friday, April 7, 2017 11:06 AM
Quote:Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov: The Kremlin considers the American strikes against Syria an aggression against a sovereign government in violations of the norms of international law, and under a far-fetched pretext. This step by Washington is causing significant damage to Russian-American relations, which are already in a deplorable state.
Friday, April 7, 2017 11:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step. THUGGER, jonesing for war, extra war, and more war. Total war. Against Emmanuel Goldstein.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor. Do you know what Caveat Emptor means? And who are "you guys"? Seriously Jack, if you just going to post lies, sorry, "untruths," I'll go back to ignoring your posts - we have too many liars already. BTW - EVERYONE - it's too early to call this good, nothing, or bad. It's definitely interesting though.
Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Second, True, but he still has to respond, or the Russians will be upset with him.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step. THUGGER, jonesing for war, extra war, and more war. Total war. Against Emmanuel Goldstein. 1kiki, Yep, we got that. It answers that question. Second too, I'm afraid. So they were only anti-Trump because they were pro-war. Now we've settled that.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: KPO, An underhanded agreement between Trump and Putin to get rid of the deep state coup. Missile defense systems are not very reliable, they would reduce they number of missiles that hit, but with 59 some would get through. And then the Americans would send more. He knew the attack was coming, if there wasn't an agreement, he would have sunk our ship. Quote:Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov: The Kremlin considers the American strikes against Syria an aggression against a sovereign government in violations of the norms of international law, and under a far-fetched pretext. This step by Washington is causing significant damage to Russian-American relations, which are already in a deplorable state.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno, having worked in a chemical weapons detection project once upon a time, I can tell you a lot about them.
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: russia
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI:
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: russia
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: BTW THUGGER, which idiot hillbilly are you? Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI:
Friday, April 7, 2017 1:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Now things are really interesting
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61554 The UN investigation on Ghouta 2013 did NOT identify a perpetrator. http://undocs.org/en/A/67/997 However, UN investigations into multiple potential chemical attacks did reveal that the 'opposition' used chemical weapons. http://undocs.org/A/68/663
Friday, April 7, 2017 3:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor. Do you know what Caveat Emptor means? And who are "you guys"? Seriously Jack, if you just going to post lies, sorry, "untruths," I'll go back to ignoring your posts - we have too many liars already. BTW - EVERYONE - it's too early to call this good, nothing, or bad. It's definitely interesting though. It means let the buyer beware. "You guys" are exactly what it sounds like. By all means, go back to ignoring my posts. Ok, so you're going to go with lying. That's definitely the unifying trait amongst you guys.When you're not smart enough to out think someone, you can always fall back on telling the bigger lies. ----------------------------- The Truth about Russian Trolls: http://bit.ly/2nwoDoz
Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor. Do you know what Caveat Emptor means? And who are "you guys"? Seriously Jack, if you just going to post lies, sorry, "untruths," I'll go back to ignoring your posts - we have too many liars already. BTW - EVERYONE - it's too early to call this good, nothing, or bad. It's definitely interesting though. It means let the buyer beware. "You guys" are exactly what it sounds like. By all means, go back to ignoring my posts.
Friday, April 7, 2017 5:51 PM
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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:49 PM
Friday, April 7, 2017 11:15 PM
Friday, April 7, 2017 11:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Saturday, April 8, 2017 7:02 AM
Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:16 AM
Quote: Yanno, having worked in a chemical weapons detection project once upon a time, I can tell you a lot about them. First of all, Sarin, Tabun, and similar compounds are unstable. If you make them under less-than-ideal circumstances and aren't able to purify them sufficiently, not only will you have telltale impurities and side products, which can pinpoint the "batch", but will also cause the CW to degrade. So military manufacturers add stabilizers, which also help pinpoint who made the CW, since different mfrs use different stabilizers. Also, even with stabilizers they don't have a long shelf life. It's not like Assad could have "held back" CW from the roundup in 2014 and still have them viable three years later. Also, when investigating what happened and who is to blame, you have to look for the remnants of a delivery system: many rocket tailfins of suitable type and standard manufacture, for example, if this was sourced from the Syrian Army. So collecting actual samples of CW residues and finding strike points of actual CW missiles would be part of reasonable investigation.- SIGNY Sig, it's an obvious lie, but it shows that the intel community is suddenly on board with Trump. Hmm. - DT
Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:48 AM
Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:51 AM
Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Sig you voted for unpredictability in the form of DJT, and unpredictability is what you got -------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:48 AM
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