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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:40 PM

THGRRI


MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin's allies have passed a preliminary draft bill in Russia's parliament that would ease some penalties for domestic violence, which supporters say would keep the state from meddling in the home but critics say would encourage abuse.

http://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-proposes-easing-penaltie
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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 6:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Is there really a question of 'meddling' when it comes to spousal abuse ?


Sounds rather Sharia-like for Putin, doesn't it ?

He's not goin' Muslim, is he ?

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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 7:10 PM

RIVERLOVE


If anyone in Russia needs protection it's the men. Those Olgas are crazy big and strong.


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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:03 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump's idol also hates women. Big surprise...

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:08 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Is there really a question of 'meddling' when it comes to spousal abuse ?


Sounds rather Sharia-like for Putin, doesn't it ?

He's not goin' Muslim, is he ?



Russia has a population of roughly 144 million and each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

The united states has 320 million and roughly 4,000 women die from domestic violence. I'd say they have a huge problem.



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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:22 AM

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Russians ditch legal booze as moonshine sales spike

The country's consumer protection agency said Tuesday that Russian adults drank an average of 10 liters of pure alcohol in 2016, 33% less than they consumed in 2009.



That compares to a global average of 6.2 liters, according to the World Health Organization.

But the decline is not necessarily good news. Analysts say that some of the drop may be attributable to increased consumption of cheap, illegal alcohol that doesn't show up in official statistics.

Illicit vodka now accounts for 30% to 50% of all alcohol sales in Russia, according to market research firm Euromonitor International.


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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Trump and Putin get along well because they both have an adolescent understanding of masculinity. In their world beating your wife is being a strong, proper husband.



You're an SJW cuck.

There's never even been any allegations of Trump beating any of his wives.

If Trump loved subjugating women, he'd LOVE Islam.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 1:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's never even been any allegations of Trump beating any of his wives.

That was easy to disprove:
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-wome
n

The part of the book that caused the most controversy concerns Trump’s divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Hurt obtained a copy of her sworn divorce deposition, from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’” Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. Hurt said that the incident, which is detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by two of her friends.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-wome
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The part of the book that caused the most controversy concerns Trump’s divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Hurt obtained a copy of her sworn divorce deposition, from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’” Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. Hurt said that the incident, which is detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by two of her friends.



Oh... Of course there was something you could find by an SJW in the highly liberal trash the New Yorker.

I see you didn't post the part later where it says "Hurt held on to his copy of Ivana’s sealed deposition for years. “It was sworn testimony,” he said. But eventually, when he was cleaning house during his own divorce, he said, “I threw it all out.” He went on, “The larger tragedy is that Trump might be elected President of the United States. I never imagined in my wildest nightmares that it would come to this.”"

Oopsie. I guess there is no real proof that this even happened.




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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:55 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-wome
n

The part of the book that caused the most controversy concerns Trump’s divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Hurt obtained a copy of her sworn divorce deposition, from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’” Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. Hurt said that the incident, which is detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by two of her friends.



Oh... Of course there was something you could find by an SJW in the highly liberal trash the New Yorker.

I see you didn't post the part later where it says "Hurt held on to his copy of Ivana’s sealed deposition for years. “It was sworn testimony,” he said. But eventually, when he was cleaning house during his own divorce, he said, “I threw it all out.” He went on, “The larger tragedy is that Trump might be elected President of the United States. I never imagined in my wildest nightmares that it would come to this.”"

Oopsie. I guess there is no real proof that this even happened.




Do Right, Be Right. :)



You need to change your signature Jack. There is far to much evidence out their proving Trump mistreats women, some in his own words. You don't have a leg to stand on and it makes you look unreasonable. Stick with what you like about Trump and stop defending all the charges against him . Far to many are true.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 4:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That's the whole point. All they are is charges.

Show me any proof that he actually did anything.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 4:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oopsie. I guess there is no real proof that this even happened.

6ixStringJack, why not go all the way on your path to becoming a complete known-nothing and ne'er-do-well and simply say that because Trump's wife Ivana did not upload a youtube video of Trump pulling her hair out by the roots, it did not happen? Then you can sneer and say, "Were you there?" to anyone that says it did happen, even without the video.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:04 PM

BYTEMITE


Eye witness testimony, anecdotal accounts, and the things a person confesses to over audio recordings are all considered admissible evidence in a court of law (and in the court of public opinion).

No one can ever prove anything 100%, that's not how the law or how science works. You can however get a pretty good idea beyond probable doubt based on what established facts are - provided everyone can even agree on the facts, which nowadays seems less and less likely.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Again... I will just bring up the fact that there are THOUSANDS of emails, still readable by the public, that show without any doubt the criminal activities and the collusion done by the Hillary Camp, the DNC and the MSM, as well has high ranking officials in the Obama administration. All of this bullshit about Trump is just allegations, and you or I are not the Judge, the Jury or the Executioner. Show me where Trump was ever convicted of sexual assault and I will accept that as truth and shut up about it.


Women today are more independent than ever, and the legal system goes out of its way to protect them. If he actually did abuse one of his wives, she did the right thing and divorced him. No woman has to put up with any of the shit that has been alleged against Trump, or from any other man, for that matter, and that is on HER if she does.


Bringing up this crap is just the LEFT continuing their temper tantrum that Hillary didn't win. Their protests didn't keep him out. Burning cities down didn't keep him out. Recounts didn't work. The Electoral College actually took more votes away from Clinton than from Trump.

Trump is President now, and they're just throwing a fit and slinging as much mud as they can. It would be cute if it wasn't so vile.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:50 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Bringing up this crap is just the LEFT continuing their temper tantrum that Hillary didn't win. Their protests didn't keep him out. Burning cities down didn't keep him out. Recounts didn't work. The Electoral College actually took more votes away from Clinton than from Trump.

Trump is President now, and they're just throwing a fit and slinging as much mud as they can. It would be cute if it wasn't so vile.


Funny how the Left is so willing to believe a sexual assault claim by Trump's ex-wife, but so fiercely unwilling to believe the claims of rape and sexual assault made against Bill Clinton by Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and many, many others.

Here's a partial list of those women and what Clinton did to them.

Clinton’s first alleged rape was Eileen Wellstone, at age 19. In England, Clinton sexually assaulted her after they met at a bar near Oxford. Bill Clinton admitted having sex with her but “claimed it was consensual.” The victim’s family didn’t want to pursue the case, and a report filed at the time by a State Department official was ignored by superiors. Apparently, the State Department didn’t want a Rhodes Scholar to have a rape charge.

* In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident.

* In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ”came on” to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;

*Juanita Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton’s gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape.

* From 1978-1980, during Clinton’s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was “who’s next?” One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor’s hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;

* Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. “I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn’t even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room.”

* Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.

* Paula Jones, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.

* Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation’s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton’s hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.

* Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton’s leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant’s legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.

* Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.


So to sum up the Left's position, Trump is a monster and Clinton is an altar boy. Got it!

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:57 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Bringing up this crap is just the LEFT continuing their temper tantrum that Hillary didn't win. Their protests didn't keep him out. Burning cities down didn't keep him out. Recounts didn't work. The Electoral College actually took more votes away from Clinton than from Trump.

Trump is President now, and they're just throwing a fit and slinging as much mud as they can. It would be cute if it wasn't so vile.


Funny how the Left is so willing to believe a sexual assault claim by Trump's ex-wife, but so fiercely unwilling to believe the claims of rape and sexual assault made against Bill Clinton by Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and many, many others.

Here's a partial list of those women and what Clinton did to them.

Clinton’s first alleged rape was Eileen Wellstone, at age 19. In England, Clinton sexually assaulted her after they met at a bar near Oxford. Bill Clinton admitted having sex with her but “claimed it was consensual.” The victim’s family didn’t want to pursue the case, and a report filed at the time by a State Department official was ignored by superiors. Apparently, the State Department didn’t want a Rhodes Scholar to have a rape charge.

* In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident.

* In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ”came on” to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;

*Juanita Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton’s gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape.

* From 1978-1980, during Clinton’s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was “who’s next?” One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor’s hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;

* Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. “I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn’t even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room.”

* Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.

* Paula Jones, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.

* Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation’s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton’s hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.

* Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton’s leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant’s legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.

* Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.


So to sum up the Left's position, Trump is a monster and Clinton is an altar boy. Got it!



It's tough conversing with people who are either or. It's either or people that are the problem. Clintons history, we are dealing with Trump now.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
It's tough conversing with people who are either or. It's either or people that are the problem. Clintons history, we are dealing with Trump now.



Says the sore loser who voted for Hillary.

You were either aware of what Hillary and her husband had been doing for decades, or you were purposefully blind to it.

This statement right here leads me to believe that you were aware of it and that by ignoring it you were basically condoning all of their criminal actions.

I'll say it again. Vile.

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Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:21 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
It's tough conversing with people who are either or. It's either or people that are the problem. Clintons history, we are dealing with Trump now.



Says the sore loser who voted for Hillary.

You were either aware of what Hillary and her husband had been doing for decades, or you were purposefully blind to it.

This statement right here leads me to believe that you were aware of it and that by ignoring it you were basically condoning all of their criminal actions.

I'll say it again. Vile.

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No Jack, what I believe is that two wrongs don't make a right. I won't defend Clinton as you should not be defending Trump. Especially since he is on tape saying he did the things he is accused of.

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Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


He was on tape being an idiot and saying stupid things to Jeb Bushes idiot cousin Billy Bush.

If you watch the whole video, they get off the bus and meet the woman he was talking about and not only was there no grabbing of pussy, but they were both gentleman in her presence after all that dumbassery and baseless bragging going on during the bus ride.


He never once said anything about anything non consensual. He wasn't talking about ALL women either. He was talking about the gold digging D-List celebrities and what THEY LET a powerful guy do to them. He never said anything about rape or abuse, or any of the other bullshit you guys keep bringing up here.

I'll point out that at any time you can turn on the radio and listen to a rap song that is 10 times worse as far as how they treat women than anything Trump said on that bus.

Don't tell me any bullshit about "well they're not running for President".

No. They aren't.

What they are doing is repeating those lyrics with a hypnotic beat to your kids on their iPhones everyday while they're doing their homework.

That's a lot more dangerous, IMO. They're not going to be influenced by some 70 year old white dude.



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Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:53 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He was on tape being an idiot and saying stupid things to Jeb Bushes idiot cousin Billy Bush.

If you watch the whole video, they get off the bus and meet the woman he was talking about and not only was there no grabbing of pussy, but they were both gentleman in her presence after all that dumbassery and baseless bragging going on during the bus ride.


He never once said anything about anything non consensual. He wasn't talking about ALL women either. He was talking about the gold digging D-List celebrities and what THEY LET a powerful guy do to them. He never said anything about rape or abuse, or any of the other bullshit you guys keep bringing up here.

I'll point out that at any time you can turn on the radio and listen to a rap song that is 10 times worse as far as how they treat women than anything Trump said on that bus.

Don't tell me any bullshit about "well they're not running for President".

No. They aren't.

What they are doing is repeating those lyrics with a hypnotic beat to your kids on their iPhones everyday while they're doing their homework.

That's a lot more dangerous, IMO. They're not going to be influenced by some 70 year old white dude.



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This whole post of your is sad at best. The guy is on tape admitting he sexually assaults women. To grope someone with out permission is by law a sexual assault.

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Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

This whole post of your is sad at best. The guy is on tape admitting he sexually assaults women. To grope someone with out permission is by law a sexual assault.



I'm only going to say it ONE MORE TIME.

Watch the whole fucking thing. It's a video moron, not an audio tape. And it's a lot fucking longer than the 5 second clip your SJW MSM kept playing.

He said "THEY LET YOU DO IT".

He fucking talks about consent in the same goddamned paragraph.

Idiot.

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Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:09 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

This whole post of your is sad at best. The guy is on tape admitting he sexually assaults women. To grope someone with out permission is by law a sexual assault.



I'm only going to say it ONE MORE TIME.

Watch the whole fucking thing. It's a video moron, not an audio tape. And it's a lot fucking longer than the 5 second clip your SJW MSM kept playing.

He said "THEY LET YOU DO IT".

He fucking talks about consent in the same goddamned paragraph.

Idiot.

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Because I dismiss what you say by explaining the law to you, you start losing it and imply I haven't seen the whole tape. I have. And it's sad that after seeing the tape yourself you come away with the view you do. It's the same with SIG who swears he does not say he grabs their pussies. Therefore no harm no foul.



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Friday, January 27, 2017 12:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Because I dismiss what you say by explaining the law to you, you start losing it and imply I haven't seen the whole tape. I have. And it's sad that after seeing the tape yourself you come away with the view you do. It's the same with SIG who swears he does not say he grabs their pussies. Therefore no harm no foul.



I did want to apologize for that outburst. For real, it has bothered me for about a day or so. Even if you are insulting me in your replies, there was no reason for me to lose it like that.


You didn't explain any law to me though, unless you are implying that you opened my eyes to the well known fact that sexual assault is against the law.


You have every right to think that what I came away with is sad and I have every right to think the same of you.

Nothing he talked about in that conversation was illegal. He never talked about doing anything that wasn't wanted. Again, I will add, that he was talking about a specific type of woman. The gold digging wannabe starlet that is drawn to money and powerful men.


I will agree that the conversation was not one of Trumps finer moments. I personally have never talked about women that way, and with my partying days behind me I don't associate with people who do. That's not to say that I haven't heard conversations like that before though. A lot of guys do talk like that, especially when there are no women around. I knew guys back in my early 20s who talked like that to them straight to their face.


If anything, the tape helped Trump because people are waking up and are tired of being manipulated by the media like that. When focus by the MSM was starting to be put on the DNC emails, and some REAL crimes being committed, they brought that tape out to divert everyone's attention. In the end, only the people who were going to vote for Hillary no matter what gave it any more than a few days consideration.

What I find particularly sad about your mindset, and people who think like you, is that you take this tape and use it to justify every bad thing you want to believe about trump. I've seen a few posts in here suggesting things as bad as Trump raping children and then using this tape to justify their comments.

Was it slimy? Sure, I'll agree with that. But it wasn't any admission to anything illegal.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 27, 2017 9:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Trump and Putin get along well because they both have an adolescent understanding of masculinity. In their world beating your wife is being a strong, proper husband.



You're an SJW cuck.

There's never even been any allegations of Trump beating any of his wives.

If Trump loved subjugating women, he'd LOVE Islam.

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"Cuck?" Really? You're one of those reichwing Nazi shiteaters, aren't you?

I got your cuck right here, bitch. Fuck you, Nazi boy.


Your kind will be wiped from the earth.

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Friday, January 27, 2017 9:30 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Because I dismiss what you say by explaining the law to you, you start losing it and imply I haven't seen the whole tape. I have. And it's sad that after seeing the tape yourself you come away with the view you do. It's the same with SIG who swears he does not say he grabs their pussies. Therefore no harm no foul.



I did want to apologize for that outburst. For real, it has bothered me for about a day or so. Even if you are insulting me in your replies, there was no reason for me to lose it like that.


You didn't explain any law to me though, unless you are implying that you opened my eyes to the well known fact that sexual assault is against the law.


You have every right to think that what I came away with is sad and I have every right to think the same of you.

Nothing he talked about in that conversation was illegal. He never talked about doing anything that wasn't wanted. Again, I will add, that he was talking about a specific type of woman. The gold digging wannabe starlet that is drawn to money and powerful men.


I will agree that the conversation was not one of Trumps finer moments. I personally have never talked about women that way, and with my partying days behind me I don't associate with people who do. That's not to say that I haven't heard conversations like that before though. A lot of guys do talk like that, especially when there are no women around. I knew guys back in my early 20s who talked like that to them straight to their face.


If anything, the tape helped Trump because people are waking up and are tired of being manipulated by the media like that. When focus by the MSM was starting to be put on the DNC emails, and some REAL crimes being committed, they brought that tape out to divert everyone's attention. In the end, only the people who were going to vote for Hillary no matter what gave it any more than a few days consideration.

What I find particularly sad about your mindset, and people who think like you, is that you take this tape and use it to justify every bad thing you want to believe about trump. I've seen a few posts in here suggesting things as bad as Trump raping children and then using this tape to justify their comments.

Was it slimy? Sure, I'll agree with that. But it wasn't any admission to anything illegal.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Jack, these women are tiring to make their future and while doing so they have to deal with the Trumps and Clinton types out there. Sad you see it the other way around. Fact is, the gold digger is probably his wife. Good chance she married for money, ya think?

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Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 PM

THGRRI


Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912
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Friday, January 27, 2017 9:36 PM

THGRRI


What exactly does "substantial Bodily harm" mean. That you have to break bones or worse?


Hey maybe our resident Russian trolls can help us out here.


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Saturday, January 28, 2017 12:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Jack, these women are tiring to make their future and while doing so they have to deal with the Trumps and Clinton types out there. Sad you see it the other way around. Fact is, the gold digger is probably his wife. Good chance she married for money, ya think?



Yep. There's a very good chance that his wife was a gold digger. All 3 of them, TBH. I don't know what their relationship is like, so I won't say anything more than that about it.

They all have to deal with each other THGRRI. Nobody told them to get into the business. I wouldn't for a single second swap lives with any one of them, man or woman. You want money and power, whether you're a man or woman, you're going to be doing somethings that probably wouldn't make your mother proud. And there's many different ways for both of the sexes to get it too. It's not as if a woman's only path to power and riches is sex. That's a little regressive thinking, wouldn't you agree?

And who's to say a woman like that isn't the one manipulating a guy like trump anyhow? Beautiful women have been manipulating powerful men all the way back to Cleopatra, and likely before that.

But that is all way off topic.


The bottom line is Trump said some pretty vulgar stuff and got caught on tape saying it. That part I won't deny.

But that's all it was. There was no admission of rape or anything illegal. He was speaking in hypotheticals. I'm quite sure that more than once in his day he has made advances on a woman he thought fell into that category of women who "will let you do it" and he was rebuffed. That's her right to do it, either way.

Now if he brought up in conversation a time where a woman denied him and then he forced himself on her, that would be an admission of rape.


I hope I've made myself clear here. I don't see how I can spell this out any plainer.


Again, I didn't much care for the crudeness of the conversation, but I think it was just part of some 1-upsmanship going on between him and Billy Bush. If I was Billy I would have just told him that he was full of shit. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:31 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

I see 'G' has a great deal of respect for women and even thinks they should be allowed to come to their own conclusions in the privacy of their own minds! not. REALLY NOT. Because, according to 'G', women are too stupid to comprehend if they disagree with 'G'. And too adolescent. And too gullible. And masochistic.

But, aside from that, 'G' is ok with allowing women to think.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:34 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Amazing that the Russian 'Parliament' can do something Congress can't - pass bills.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:35 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

I see 'G' has a great deal of respect for women and even thinks they should be allowed to come to their own conclusions in the privacy of their own minds! not. REALLY NOT. Because, according to 'G', women are too stupid to comprehend if they disagree with 'G'. And too adolescent. And too gullible. And masochistic.




Must really burn your noodle that Kellyanne Conway ran his campaign, and did so successfully.

Bazinga !

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:41 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Is that to me? Because I didn't know, and now that I know, I still don't care either way.

I just think it's funny that someone like 'G' who claims to care so much about women viscerally despises them so much, because, as women their thinking is unapproved - by 'G' of course.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

"Cuck?" Really? You're one of those reichwing Nazi shiteaters, aren't you?
I got your cuck right here, bitch. Fuck you, Nazi boy.
Your kind will be wiped from the earth. REAVERASS

Oh look, a liberal spouting hate-speech.





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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake


According to you GSTRING, if I discuss something I'm over-reacting. If I DON'T discuss something, I'm hiding.

You see? You're a troll. YOU don't want to discuss the subject, all you want to do is look for an excuse for personal attacks. So the reason why I'm NOT discussing this with you further is because (1) You've been demonstrated to be wrong about five ti

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:20 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Amazing that the Russian 'Parliament' can do something Congress can't - pass bills.




Like a good Russian troll you post nonjudgmentally towards Russia, and take a swipe against the USA. So I take it you're not bothered by the changes to the domestic violence laws in Russia.

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:27 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I just think it's funny that someone like 'G' who claims to care so much about women viscerally despises them so much, because, as women their thinking is unapproved - by 'G' of course.



Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.



SIG and 1kiki are attempting to defend Russia by changing the subject from Russia changing it's domestic violence laws, to one that falsely accuses you G of being disrespectful of women. Funny isn't it.

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No reply to me THGGRI?

We've been having a 3 day discussion about this and you make 5 posts to the others who interrupted it, but you don't reply to me?

I really want to hear what you have to say about my last post.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:57 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Jack, these women are tiring to make their future and while doing so they have to deal with the Trumps and Clinton types out there. Sad you see it the other way around. Fact is, the gold digger is probably his wife. Good chance she married for money, ya think?



Yep. There's a very good chance that his wife was a gold digger. All 3 of them, TBH. I don't know what their relationship is like, so I won't say anything more than that about it.

They all have to deal with each other THGRRI. Nobody told them to get into the business. I wouldn't for a single second swap lives with any one of them, man or woman. You want money and power, whether you're a man or woman, you're going to be doing somethings that probably wouldn't make your mother proud. And there's many different ways for both of the sexes to get it too. It's not as if a woman's only path to power and riches is sex. That's a little regressive thinking, wouldn't you agree?

And who's to say a woman like that isn't the one manipulating a guy like trump anyhow? Beautiful women have been manipulating powerful men all the way back to Cleopatra, and likely before that.

But that is all way off topic.


The bottom line is Trump said some pretty vulgar stuff and got caught on tape saying it. That part I won't deny.

But that's all it was. There was no admission of rape or anything illegal. He was speaking in hypotheticals. I'm quite sure that more than once in his day he has made advances on a woman he thought fell into that category of women who "will let you do it" and he was rebuffed. That's her right to do it, either way.

Now if he brought up in conversation a time where a woman denied him and then he forced himself on her, that would be an admission of rape.


I hope I've made myself clear here. I don't see how I can spell this out any plainer.


Again, I didn't much care for the crudeness of the conversation, but I think it was just part of some 1-upsmanship going on between him and Billy Bush. If I was Billy I would have just told him that he was full of shit. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Much of what you say is generalizing and you dismiss Trumps bad behavior because of the business they are in. What you do is blame the women for wanting to be in that business. That said, I feel Trump broke the law and touched women against their will and you do not.

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Much of what you say is generalizing and you dismiss Trumps bad behavior because of the business they are in. What you do is blame the women for wanting to be in that business. That said, I feel Trump broke the law and touched women against their will and you do not.



Touching a woman is not against the law. You won't even get fired from a job for touching a woman unless you were being completely lecherous about it. What you would get fired for is if she told you no and you continued to do it.

Again, he said that "they let you do it". I'm sure he wasn't talking about the times he tried and they didn't let him do it. He certainly didn't say anything about continuing to do it after he was told no.

You don't give women enough credit. If they want to say no, they will say no. This isn't 1950.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:49 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Much of what you say is generalizing and you dismiss Trumps bad behavior because of the business they are in. What you do is blame the women for wanting to be in that business. That said, I feel Trump broke the law and touched women against their will and you do not.



Touching a woman is not against the law. You won't even get fired from a job for touching a woman unless you were being completely lecherous about it. What you would get fired for is if she told you no and you continued to do it.

Again, he said that "they let you do it". I'm sure he wasn't talking about the times he tried and they didn't let him do it. He certainly didn't say anything about continuing to do it after he was told no.

You don't give women enough credit. If they want to say no, they will say no. This isn't 1950.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Shit Jack, we are talking about grouping here and he admits to it on that tape. If you don't know that we're done.

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 2:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Once again, he was talking in theoreticals, and he was bragging to an idiot Bush cousin. It was like a couple of frat bros talking smack. It wasn't any recount of an actual event. When he did bring up an actual thing that happened, it was about the woman they were going to meet. It was a story about how he took her shopping for furniture and essentially got nowhere with her.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I just think it's funny that someone like 'G' who claims to care so much about women viscerally despises them so much, because, as women their thinking is unapproved - by 'G' of course.

Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.

Quote:

Originally posted by G:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they (women) have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"



Because, yanno, 'G' thinks so highly of women having the freedom to think their own thoughts. So rather than ASK a women who voted for Trump what her reasons were, and rationally discuss the reasons, 'G' prefers to make assumptions about what all women who voted for Trump think, and what they value; and then demonizes those women on the basis of his assumptions. Their vote is beyond comprehension. And adolescent. And brainwashed. And masochistic.

Because, yanno, 'G' thinks so highly of women having the freedom to think their own thoughts.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-bush-transcript-201610
07-snap-htmlstory.html


Donald Trump: You know and—

Unidentified voice: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married.

Unidentified voice: That’s huge news there.

Trump: No, no. Nancy. No this was— And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’ I took her out furniture– I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.

Bush: Sheesh, your girl’s hot as shit. In the purple.

Trump: Whoa!

Bush: Yes. Yes, the Donald has scored!

Trump: Whoa!

Bush: Whoa, my man!

Unidentified voice: Wait, wait you’ve got to look at me when you get out and be like ... will you give me the thumbs up? You’ve got to put the thumbs up.

[crosstalk]

Trump: Look at you. You are a pussy.

[crosstalk]

Unidentified voice: You’ve got to get the thumbs up. You can’t be too happy, man.

Trump: Alright, you and I will walk down.

[crosstalk]

Trump: Maybe it’s a different one.

Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it’s her. It’s her.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her, with the gold. I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. I just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Unidentified voice: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

[crosstalk and chuckling]

Unidentified voice: Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.

Trump: Oh, it looks good.

Unidentified voice: Come on, shorty.

Trump: Oh, nice legs, huh?

Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that’s good legs. Go ahead.

Trump: It’s always good if you don’t fall out of the bus. Like Ford. Gerald Ford, remember?

Bush: Down below. Pull the handle.

Trump: Hello. How are you? Hi.

Arianne Zucker: Hi Mr. Trump. How are you? Pleasure to meet you.

Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?

Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How are you doing, Arianne?

Zucker: I’m doing very well, thank you. [To Trump] Are you ready to be a soap star?

Trump: We’re ready, let’s go. Make me a soap star.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.

Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?

Trump: Okay, absolutely. Melania said this was okay.

Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. There we go. Excellent. Well, you’ve got a nice co-star here.

Zucker: Yes. Absolutely.

Trump: Good. After you. Come on, Billy. Don’t be shy.

Bush: As soon as a beautiful woman shows up, he just, he takes off on me. This always happens.

Trump: Get over here Billy.

Zucker: I’m sorry, come here.

Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.

Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better?

Bush: It’s hard to walk next to a guy like this.

Zucker: I should actually be in the middle.

Bush: Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.

Trump: Good, that’s better.

Zucker: This is much better. This is—

Trump: That’s better.

Bush: Now, if you had to choose, honestly, between one of us: me or the Donald? Who would it be?

Trump: I don’t know, that’s tough competition.

Zucker: That’s some pressure right there.

Bush: Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.

Zucker: I have to take the 5th on that one.

Bush: Really?

Zucker: Yup. I’ll take both.

Trump: Which way?

Zucker: Make a right. Here we go. [inaudible]

Bush: Here he goes. I’m going to leave you here. Give me my microphone.

Trump: Okay okay. Oh, you’re finished?

Bush: You’re my man. Yeah.

Trump: Oh good.

Bush: I’m going to go do our show.

Zucker: Oh, you want to reset? Okay.


The only thing Trump personally seemed to admit to was kissing women. "You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. I just kiss. I don’t even wait." Everything else was hypothetically stated as the anonymous 'you'.






How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 6:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Meanwhile
Quote:

Woman to be stoned to death for adultery in Saudi Arabia - while male partner to receive 100 lashes

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-stoned-death-adultery-sa
udi-6912835


I personally don't know much about the new law. What I gather from the scrambled explanations was that the new law was to equalize the treatment of "battery" outside of marriage (which was decriminalized) with the treatment of "battery" INSIDE of marriage (which just caught up to the other law).

Quote:

The passage by the parliament, or Duma, reverses a ruling by the Supreme Court last year, subsequently backed by parliament, that decriminalized battery that does not inflict bodily harm, but retained criminal charges involving battery against family members. That reform is effectively reversed by Friday's vote.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912
/

...but yanno... it's really hard to tell.

I'm against the new law, whatever its origins. I don't even believe in spanking children, and I sure don't believe in slapping your spouse to enforce your POV.

Because it's under threat as well as sanctions from the west, Russia is being pulled together by a combination of patriotism and a resurgence of old-style religiosity (Orthodox Christianity), which is similar to evangelicals who believe that the man is the god-given family leader.



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According to you GSTRING, if I discuss something I'm over-reacting. If I DON'T discuss something, I'm hiding.

You see? You're a troll. YOU don't want to discuss the subject, all you want to do is look for an excuse for personal attacks. So the reason why I'm NOT discussing this with you further is because (1) You've been demonstrated to be wrong about five ti

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


BUT ... RUSSIA!

And who the hell cares about how barbaric the Saudis are anyway? They're our frie...eeeends.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:13 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile
Quote:

Woman to be stoned to death for adultery in Saudi Arabia - while male partner to receive 100 lashes





The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to bigger problems, is an informal fallacy in which an opponent's arguments about issues are minimized, deemed unimportant, or dismissed on the grounds that more important topics and issues exist, regardless of whether these problems are relevant to the question at hand or not. The use of the fallacy has also been referred to as "whataboutery".

So, once again

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/


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Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, let me go through your outright lies, post-edits, and logical fallacies.

Quote:

Vladimir Putin proposes ...
Did Putin propose the law? I'll let you answer that - but remember, we can all grade you by looking at your link.
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Vladimir Putin proposes decriminalizing domestic violence
I just want to remind you that that was you INITIAL title. "Vladimir Putin proposes easing penalties for domestic violence" is at least your third title on the same topic. But what the hell. Dishonesty is your bread and butter.
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Russia has a population of roughly 144 million and each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.
The united states has 320 million and roughly 4,000 women die from domestic violence. I'd say they have a huge problem.

Now this is you, claiming facts with no links. I'd say 'for shame!', but I know you have none.
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Russians ditch legal booze as moonshine sales spike
And THIS is you changing the topic entirely! What logical fallacy is that? I'll let you answer that, too. Here's a link in case you need help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

And what logical fallacy is THIS, THUGGER?
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You need to change your signature Jack.
And I just want to point out this little morsel of lie ...
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Especially since he is on tape saying he did the things he is accused of.
... because the only thing he 'admitted' to was 'kissing women'.

And what DOES this have to do with Russia, again?
or this ...
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The guy is on tape admitting he sexually assaults women.
or this ...
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It's the same with SIG who swears he does not say he grabs their pussies.
or this ...
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Fact is, the gold digger is probably his wife.
or this ...
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you dismiss Trumps (sic) bad behavior
or this ...
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we are talking about grouping (sic)

Care to answer, THUGGER?

And what kind of logical fallacy is this, THUGGER?
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Like a good Russian troll ...


I can't find a single post of yours, THUGGER, that doesn't contain lies, post-edits, and logical fallacies.

And that's not even considering the dishonesty of your 'sources'. Like this opening sentence "President Vladimir Putin's allies have passed a preliminary draft bill ..." Yes, out of 383 Duma members, 380 are Putin allies! Because ... Putin!

When you bothered with 'sources' at all. All one of them. (The other link in a post of yours was you quoting Brenda.)




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:15 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Is that to me? Because I didn't know, and now that I know, I still don't care either way.

I just think it's funny that someone like 'G' who claims to care so much about women viscerally despises them so much, because, as women their thinking is unapproved - by 'G' of course.




Yes, directed to you, and any woman who whines about how other women could vote for Trump. The point, which clearly you missed ( or pretend to have done so ) is that not only did women vote for him, but strong, intelligent and dedicated women WORK for him !

Seems YOU'RE the one who is viscerally despising the thinking of women who support Trump, so you and G... peas in a pod ?


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Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Tens of millions of women of all backgrounds voted for Trump.

Turns out there are a lot of women who aren't dumb enough to fall for the MSM/DNC manipulation tactics.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence



And we can't even get weed decriminalized in half the states here....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by G:
6ix - And I have yet to hear one of them give me a convincing reason as to why, on balance, considering what I see as his adolescent, negative view of women, they would do so. It's possible that being around as many salesmen as I have I can spot a conman more easily than others, although in this case it seems remarkable easy to see Trump for the liar he is. It's also possible that you also have what I would consider an adolescent view of women. Am I wrong? You seem to think the women he's bragged about grabbing deserved it.

Curious: do you think he can actually build a wall across our southern border? If so, who do you think will pay for it? If you say "Mexico," please tell me how you see that happening. If you can't then you are speculating. If you are speculating, then please tell me what you base that on.



Simply making sure Hillary didn't get into office is reason enough for most intelligent women in this country. I'm all for having a woman president, as I'm sure many of them are too. Hillary just wasn't the right one. She's a criminal and a liar, and I believe that many of the women who voted for Trump didn't want the first female president to be such an utterly horrible choice.


As for the wall, I don't know if it will really happen or not. But I do have two ways it will be paid for, and yes, making Mexico pay for it is one of them.

1. $1.2 billion is already secured for it since the GWB years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

2. How is Mexico going to pay for it?

From Trump's campaign website: (archive.org capture from September 1st): https://web.archive.org/web/20160831162128/https://www.donaldjtrump.co
m/positions/pay-for-the-wall




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Compelling Mexico to Pay for the Wall

Introduction: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 - the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:

On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31 CFR 130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.

On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico.

On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.

Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from any tariffs themselves. Mexico needs access to our markets much more than the reverse, so we have all the leverage and will win the negotiation. By definition, if you have a large trade deficit with a nation, it means they are selling far more to you than the reverse - thus they, not you, stand to lose from enforcing trade rules through tariffs (as has been done to save many U.S. industries in the past).

Cancelling visas: Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Mexico is totally dependent on the United States as a release valve for its own poverty - our approvals of hundreds of thousands of visas to their nationals every year is one of our greatest leverage points. We also have leverage through business and tourist visas for important people in the Mexican economy. Keep in mind, the United States has already taken in 4X more migrants than any other country on planet earth, producing lower wages and higher unemployment for our own citizens and recent migrants.

Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall. This includes fees on border crossing cards, of which more than 1 million are issued a year. The border-crossing card is also one of the greatest sources of illegal immigration into the United States, via overstays. Mexico is also the single largest recipient of U.S. green cards, which confer a path to U.S. citizenship. Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.

Conclusion: Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States. The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity, including the cost of trials and incarcerations. Not to mention the even greater human cost. We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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