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Bernie Sanders Discussion Thread
Sunday, April 17, 2016 11:15 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, Texans are notoriously conservative. Nobody can save them from themselves.
Sunday, April 17, 2016 11:33 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you're focusing on the most trivial aspect of my post. Firstly, Texas is NOT reflective of the greater USA, no matter how "diverse" you think it is. But more importantly, are you so wedded to having "a Democrat" in office that you don't care that that particular Democrat is so wedded to big money and neocon interests that she's a DINO (Democrat in Name Only)? Except for some "social policy" differences with the GOP .... which is the least of our problems right now ... Hillary is a warmongering, bankster-loving, welfare-cutting, free-trade groupie. That woman has been a disaster thru her entire career. She voted for the Iraq War, which was the prominent reason for her defeat by Obama, and is endlessly quoted by the reichwing here for her endless justifications (at the time) of that misguided vote. There is nothing important (ie outside of some social policy votes) that she's gotten right in her entire career. As far as I can tell, she's a bank/CIA whore. I challenge you to find one thing that redeems her. Take your time. I'll be interested in the results.
Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:08 PM
Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Bernie can't "sabotage" her with the facts. Hillary sabotaged herself when she decided to lap-dance for the banks and the internationalists and the neocons.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Along those lines, I can't see a dime's difference between her and establishment Repubs. If she loses, she deserves to lose. Personally, I'd rather vote for Trump. Sure, he's a manic blowhard. But better a manic blowhard than a sociopathic shill.
Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:54 PM
Sunday, April 17, 2016 2:12 PM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, April 17, 2016 2:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Is the United States "moving to" an oligarchy? Well, according to a convincing research paper published by respected academicians, we're not "moving to" an oligarchy, we're already there. https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf I have linked this paper at least five times by now, you really should at least read the abstract about policy outcomes and who gets to determine them, from a study of the results of about 1800 well-polled policy decisions.
Sunday, April 17, 2016 2:51 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, April 17, 2016 3:23 PM
Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:46 PM
Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:54 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs? So you believe it's only the White House that needs fixing? And that all politicians have sold the US out. Or is it just Hilary that has turned this nation into a Third World country? Do you actually know what a neocon is? SGG I sincerely doubt you know what a neocon is. Care to share what your personal definition is? This ought to be a hoot. Two words, oh exalted one, Bush - Cheney Too much wisdom..........must - bow - down, your knuckleheadedness! Please spare this poor humble peon as I tremble at your exalted greatness! SGG Aaaaand, you delivered. You are defining Bush and Cheney as New Conservatives, or vice versa. Did you get that from some Libtard dictionary? Something that includes FDR as a neo-con? Actually, what is a conservative? Define that!!! SGG
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs? So you believe it's only the White House that needs fixing? And that all politicians have sold the US out. Or is it just Hilary that has turned this nation into a Third World country? Do you actually know what a neocon is? SGG I sincerely doubt you know what a neocon is. Care to share what your personal definition is? This ought to be a hoot. Two words, oh exalted one, Bush - Cheney Too much wisdom..........must - bow - down, your knuckleheadedness! Please spare this poor humble peon as I tremble at your exalted greatness! SGG Aaaaand, you delivered. You are defining Bush and Cheney as New Conservatives, or vice versa. Did you get that from some Libtard dictionary? Something that includes FDR as a neo-con?
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs? So you believe it's only the White House that needs fixing? And that all politicians have sold the US out. Or is it just Hilary that has turned this nation into a Third World country? Do you actually know what a neocon is? SGG I sincerely doubt you know what a neocon is. Care to share what your personal definition is? This ought to be a hoot. Two words, oh exalted one, Bush - Cheney Too much wisdom..........must - bow - down, your knuckleheadedness! Please spare this poor humble peon as I tremble at your exalted greatness! SGG
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs? So you believe it's only the White House that needs fixing? And that all politicians have sold the US out. Or is it just Hilary that has turned this nation into a Third World country? Do you actually know what a neocon is? SGG I sincerely doubt you know what a neocon is. Care to share what your personal definition is? This ought to be a hoot.
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs? So you believe it's only the White House that needs fixing? And that all politicians have sold the US out. Or is it just Hilary that has turned this nation into a Third World country? Do you actually know what a neocon is? SGG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs?
Sunday, April 17, 2016 5:02 PM
Sunday, April 17, 2016 11:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: What a stupid-ass lame argument.
Monday, April 18, 2016 2:12 AM
Monday, April 18, 2016 5:13 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Clinton IS corrupt. From her Wall Street speaking engagements to her list of top 20 donors to the hundreds of millions poured into the Clinton "foundation" from nations like Saudi Arabia, to her tenure as neocon head of the State Department, to her private email server... Clinton is a bought, sold, butchered, graded, and packaged politician. You don't need a jury trial to figure that out. I know exactly what she'll do when she gets into office: she'll represent the interests that have given her the most money: Banks, international law firms (like the Panamanian one that was just exposed), Saudi Arabia and the rest of the GCC, and the ultra-wealthy. She's for the TTP and TTIP. She's for Saudi Arabia, She's for the banks. Do you really think that Hillary will reform the WH in the way it so desperately needs? So you believe it's only the White House that needs fixing? And that all politicians have sold the US out. Or is it just Hilary that has turned this nation into a Third World country? Do you actually know what a neocon is? SGG I sincerely doubt you know what a neocon is. Care to share what your personal definition is? This ought to be a hoot. Two words, oh exalted one, Bush - Cheney Too much wisdom..........must - bow - down, your knuckleheadedness! Please spare this poor humble peon as I tremble at your exalted greatness! SGG Aaaaand, you delivered. You are defining Bush and Cheney as New Conservatives, or vice versa. Did you get that from some Libtard dictionary? Something that includes FDR as a neo-con? Actually, what is a conservative? Define that!!! SGG In the Political Spectrum of America, there are 5 partitions. In the middle are Centrists, generally not heavily biased. On the far left of the diagram are the Radicals. Between Radical and Center are Liberals - still well left of middle. On the far Right of the diagram are Reactionary. Between Reactionary and middle are Conservatives, still right of Center. In the Golden Age of Radio and Television broadcast "journalism" or "news" when many yellow journalists pretended to be unbiased or balanced, and attempted to give the impression of being Centrist, they were merely liberal while trying to appear Centrist. But Uncle Wally (Cronkite) was able to put a severe spin on the content and ushered in the current Hard left, Radical, and extreme Liberal position of the MainStream Media, while most of America resides in Conservative or Right side of Middle. This mismatch is why MSM so vehemently tries to claim that they are unbiased or Middle, Centrist - so that the most gullible will believe them and suspend disbelief while pretending to accept this falsehood.
Monday, April 18, 2016 5:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:It's a political statement using sarcasm .... So what if I'm being a jerk, sometimes that is needed to get a point across. Being a jerk is sometimes necessary to get your point across, but I have no idea what point that would be, and I daresay neither does anyone else. So let's start with something simple: Quote: You want to know the real reason why I laugh at this post.............Because, it's so heavily "doctored" it's not even FUNNY. WHICH post is doctored? The Youtube of Hillary beaming and giggling because she just got someone killed? -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Quote:It's a political statement using sarcasm .... So what if I'm being a jerk, sometimes that is needed to get a point across.
Quote: You want to know the real reason why I laugh at this post.............Because, it's so heavily "doctored" it's not even FUNNY.
Monday, April 18, 2016 6:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Lesson received loud and clear. SfGG Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: SGG Have you read the article? Just curious. You mean the one I quoted from beginning to end, with the FULL context of the questions and each entire reply in green; rather than the dishonestly reported version 2nd posted? Yes. A woman has a major leak in her house. She steps outside her door to find 2 people waiting there. One has his truck parked in the driveway and it says 'licensed plumber' and he's wearing overalls with his name above his left breast pocket that says "Bob" The other is her next door neighbor Susie, in her yoga pants and brand new Reeboks holding a Do-It-Yourself book that reads "Plumbing For Dummies" written on the cover. Yours is a wildly inaccurate analogy. The more accurate analogy would be - she sees a blind licensed electrician with a truck that says on its side "we break it"; and she also sees her concerned neighbor who says "we need to find a way to fix that". Because Hillary has never even admitted to the existence of the problems Bernie focuses on. That's why the woman with the major leaks sees a blind electrician, not a sighted plumber. Also, every decision of Hillary's has led to a disaster. Well, maybe those were her intended goals, but they look like disasters for the American people from where I am. That's why the logo on the truck says "we break it". Meanwhile, Bernie comes over, sees the leak, thinks it's a problem, and goes about finding the fix for it. Who do you think has the better chance of fixing the leak?
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: SGG Have you read the article? Just curious. You mean the one I quoted from beginning to end, with the FULL context of the questions and each entire reply in green; rather than the dishonestly reported version 2nd posted? Yes. A woman has a major leak in her house. She steps outside her door to find 2 people waiting there. One has his truck parked in the driveway and it says 'licensed plumber' and he's wearing overalls with his name above his left breast pocket that says "Bob" The other is her next door neighbor Susie, in her yoga pants and brand new Reeboks holding a Do-It-Yourself book that reads "Plumbing For Dummies" written on the cover. Yours is a wildly inaccurate analogy. The more accurate analogy would be - she sees a blind licensed electrician with a truck that says on its side "we break it"; and she also sees her concerned neighbor who says "we need to find a way to fix that". Because Hillary has never even admitted to the existence of the problems Bernie focuses on. That's why the woman with the major leaks sees a blind electrician, not a sighted plumber. Also, every decision of Hillary's has led to a disaster. Well, maybe those were her intended goals, but they look like disasters for the American people from where I am. That's why the logo on the truck says "we break it". Meanwhile, Bernie comes over, sees the leak, thinks it's a problem, and goes about finding the fix for it. Who do you think has the better chance of fixing the leak?
Monday, April 18, 2016 9:28 AM
Monday, April 18, 2016 1:02 PM
Quote:It's a political statement using sarcasm .... So what if I'm being a jerk, sometimes that is needed to get a point across.- SIGNY Being a jerk is sometimes necessary to get your point across, but I have no idea what point that would be, and I daresay neither does anyone else. So let's start with something simple: "You want to know the real reason why I laugh at this post.............Because, it's so heavily "doctored" it's not even FUNNY." WHICH post is doctored? The Youtube of Hillary beaming and giggling because she just got someone killed? - SIGNY What else are we talking about?- SGG
Monday, April 18, 2016 6:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: \ Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: It is kinda funny........lmao -SGG Which part's funny? The part where Clinton turned Libya into a failed state crawling with jihadists? Or the part where she's so happy about it?
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: It is kinda funny........lmao -SGG
Monday, April 18, 2016 6:14 PM
Monday, April 18, 2016 6:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, I assume that you posted those extended (negative) opinion pieces about Sanders because you agree with them. As you know, I'm not a huge Bernie fan. But the thought of voting for that evil witch Clinton (with apologies to witches everywhere) makes me gag. It is second, not SECOND.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, I assume that you posted those extended (negative) opinion pieces about Sanders because you agree with them. As you know, I'm not a huge Bernie fan. But the thought of voting for that evil witch Clinton (with apologies to witches everywhere) makes me gag.
Quote: Pretty soon that will make no difference because the witch will beat Bernie. Then the noise machine will be turned on the witch, but it has been noisily pointing out the witch's faults since Benghazi and the emails, however many years ago that started. To summarize: 1) I prefer Obama to Clinton or Bernie, but I can't have Obama because of far-sighted Republicans acting in 1947. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution 2) Bernie has little chance at this second of being elected President and very soon everyone will know he has no chance. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/ www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html?_r=0
Monday, April 18, 2016 7:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: http://you tu.be/FmIRYvJQeHM\ Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: It is kinda funny........lmao -SGG Which part's funny? The part where Clinton turned Libya into a failed state crawling with jihadists? Or the part where she's so happy about it? Actually, BOTH!!! HI-larious!!! You know what else is funny, how Libya is the only thing NOT Obama's fault. Bush invades Iraq, well that's fine. Kills, or has killed, Sadam; oh, that's applauded.............downright laughable. Then Obama gets Osama (hey that rhymes!) and he's BBQ'd for actually doing something right, and something that Bush had promised. Stop it, my sides are hurting......lol Benghazi Committee is actually set to meet AGAIN! Ha, ha I'm dying here. It is now officially the longest government-sponsored investigation in America's history, and the least effective. http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/benghazi-committee-now-one-of-the-longest-and-least-active-congressional "During this time, the Select Committee has identified no evidence to support claims that Secretary Clinton ordered a stand-down, approved an illicit weapons program, or any of the other wild allegations about the Benghazi attacks Republicans have made about her for years." Stop it, stop it you're killing me............lmao SfGG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: http://you tu.be/FmIRYvJQeHM\ Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: It is kinda funny........lmao -SGG Which part's funny? The part where Clinton turned Libya into a failed state crawling with jihadists? Or the part where she's so happy about it?
Monday, April 18, 2016 7:48 PM
Monday, April 18, 2016 9:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: An article about Bernie ended with: This year, the insurgency is larger than it’s ever been, and that in itself is an opportunity. A chance for the insurgents to play the long game, to co-opt the institutions that have held them back and to emerge as the leaders of a new Democratic Party. Sanders may not be the Democratic nominee, or the president of the United States, but if his supporters take the opportunity, they’ll accomplish what past insurgent candidacies couldn’t, and he’ll stand as a key figure in the origin story of a new, new left. www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/04/there_is_no_bernie_sanders_movement.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, April 19, 2016 4:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you're focusing on the most trivial aspect of my post. Firstly, Texas is NOT reflective of the greater USA, no matter how "diverse" you think it is. But more importantly, are you so wedded to having "a Democrat" in office that you don't care that that particular Democrat is so wedded to big money and neocon interests that she's a DINO (Democrat in Name Only)? Except for some "social policy" differences with the GOP .... which is the least of our problems right now ... Hillary is a warmongering, bankster-loving, welfare-cutting, free-trade groupie. That woman has been a disaster thru her entire career. She voted for the Iraq War, which was the prominent reason for her defeat by Obama, and is endlessly quoted by the reichwing here for her endless justifications (at the time) of that misguided vote. There is nothing important (ie outside of some social policy votes) that she's gotten right in her entire career. As far as I can tell, she's a bank/CIA whore. I challenge you to find one thing that redeems her. Take your time. I'll be interested in the results. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Tuesday, April 19, 2016 5:28 AM
Tuesday, April 19, 2016 8:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: In 1963, Bernie Sanders participated in MLK’s Civil Rights March. One of only 2 sitting US Senators to have heard MLK’s “I have a Dream Speech” in person in the march on Washington, DC.
Tuesday, April 19, 2016 11:34 PM
Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: However, according to Snopes, he did say he participated in the event where MLK gave his 'I Have a Dream' speech, and was very active in the Chicago Civil Rights Movement.
Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:52 AM
Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:37 AM
Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: He got slaughtered in NY. Not really surprising, given the byzantine rules for registering to vote and changing party well before even the first debate. His voters largely couldn't. There might be some investigations, but AZ showed us that nothing will change. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS672US672&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=voters%20disappeared%20brooklyn
Thursday, April 21, 2016 7:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: GET YOUR CRYING TOWELS HEEEERREEE!!! Boo Hoo! Bernie runs home to sulk and then to spew venom over ass whupping. That's how we do in NY!!!!! SGG Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: He got slaughtered in NY. Not really surprising, given the byzantine rules for registering to vote and changing party well before even the first debate. His voters largely couldn't. There might be some investigations, but AZ showed us that nothing will change. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS672US672&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=voters%20disappeared%20brooklyn
Thursday, April 21, 2016 9:14 PM
RIVERLOVE
Friday, April 22, 2016 6:18 AM
Quote:That's how we do in NY!!!!!
Quote:For the past week or so, I’ve been warning readers that the supposedly “liberal” state of New York has some of the most repressive voting laws in the country. Before reading the rest of this post, I suggest refreshing your memory on just how undemocratic New York is by checking out the following: Published April 13th: Hillary Clinton Will Win New York, Because New York is Running a Banana Republic Primary Published yesterday: As Expected, New York’s Primary is Already a Pathetic Mess As such, two things were obvious going into the New York primary: 1) Hillary Clinton would win. 2) There would be an enormous amount of voter suppression and fraud. Well the results are in, and the state of the state in New York is very, very bad. The Daily Beast reports: Alba Guerrero was dumbfounded. She’d arrived at her polling place in Ozone Park, Queens only to be told that she had been registered as a Republican since 2004. That was news to her. She remembers registering to vote for the first time as a Democrat so she could vote for Barack Obama in the general election in 2008. When she recently moved from Manhattan to Ozone Park, in Queens, she re-registered at the DMV, she says, and even checked online on March 9th to be sure she was registered at her new address. But when she showed up to vote for Bernie Sanders at PS63 on Tuesday, she says she was told she couldn’t. New York is a closed primary, where only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic Primary—and voters had to be registered by last October. She was told—very politely, she wants to make clear—by poll workers to take it up with a judge. She was given a court order in nearby Forest Hills. Guerrero drove to the Queens County Board of Elections and pled her case, but Judge Ira Margulis initially turned her away. “The judge tells me, ‘No, that’s it—2004.’ He shows me, I’m registered as a Republican. He says there’s nothing we can do,” she said. But on her way out she saw a Board of Elections worker holding something with her name on it. It was her 2004 voter registration, replete, she remembers, with her name, her social security number, her birthday—and someone else’s signature. “I said, ‘Excuse me, that’s not my signature,’” she said. “It’s not my handwriting. It showed completely different signatures.” Sure enough, the signatures are strikingly different. Next to a box checked “Republican,” her 2004 signature is written in clear, deliberate, legible cursive and includes her middle name. Her more recent signature is a loopy, illegible scrawl. She insists she’s never changed it in her life, and says she can produce old tax forms to prove it. So Guerrero went back to to Judge Margulis and showed him the discrepancy. “He allowed me to change for that day,“ she said. Mayor Bill de Blasio, who tweeted at 11:50 a.m., “There’s nothing more punk rock than voting. #GetOutAndVote”, had to change his tune by the end of the day. WNYC reported this morning that 126,000 Brooklyn Democrats had been removed from the voting rolls since last fall. What a fake liberal clown. “It has been reported to us from voters and voting rights monitors that the voting lists in Brooklyn contain numerous errors, including the purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting lists,” he said in a statement released after 5 p.m. on Election Day. “I am calling on the Board of Election to reverse that purge and update the lists again using Central, not Brooklyn borough, Board of Election staff.” A spokesperson for New York Attorney Eric Schneiderman told the New York Daily News that his office received “by far the largest volume of complaints we have received for an election since Attorney General Schneiderman took office in 2011.” Some polling sites did not open on time, citing too few election workers. Others had faulty voting machines, or were delivered half the number of promised voting machines. “I spent three hours this morning trying to vote,” he said. “I’m at a loss for words. I don’t understand that in the 21st century you have to stand in front of a judge to get to vote. It was laughable.” Gershman was peeved by what happened to him, but he wonders what would’ve happened if he didn’t have a car, or the ability to miss a morning of work to fight for his ballot. And he’s also confounded by what happened to Guerrero’s voter registration form, which he shared on YouTube and calls “pretty clear fraud.” Guerrero calls the whole incident “creepy.” She has “no idea” who might want to forge her signature on a voter registration form. “It’s just disheartening. We’re supposed to be the number one country in the world, but things like this you’d imagine would happen in a second or third-world country,” she said. “What happened to me, basically, was fraud.” Welcome to the real America, Alba Guerrero.
Friday, April 22, 2016 11:06 AM
Saturday, April 23, 2016 1:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Jerry Brown once played the same role as Bernie, except with the OTHER Clinton. Bernie is nicer than Jerry was. If you're ever interested in what an ugly Democratic Party primary campaign looks like, I would suggest taking a look at this exchange between Bill Clinton and Jerry Brown in a 1992 debate. It starts with a softball lobbed at Brown about Clinton's electability that Brown turns into a vicious attack based on a now-forgotten scandal involving conflicts of interest in Hillary Clinton's legal work. "He is funneling money to his wife's law firm," Brown says. "It's not only corruption, it's an environmental disaster and it's the kind of conflict of interest that is incompatible with the kind of public servant we expect for president of the United States." Brown goes on to say he would refuse to serve as Clinton's vice president. This argument was literally about chicken shit. http://archives.arkansasnews.com/2007/09/07/the-chicken-waste-state/
Quote:Even OBAMA was meaner to Clinton than Bernie is:
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Saturday, April 23, 2016 1:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:That's how we do in NY!!!!! Indeed [/snark] Additional Evidence Of Mind-Boggling Fraud Emerges from The New York Primary Quote:For the past week or so, I’ve been warning readers that the supposedly “liberal” state of New York has some of the most repressive voting laws in the country. Before reading the rest of this post, I suggest refreshing your memory on just how undemocratic New York is by checking out the following: Published April 13th: Hillary Clinton Will Win New York, Because New York is Running a Banana Republic Primary Published yesterday: As Expected, New York’s Primary is Already a Pathetic Mess As such, two things were obvious going into the New York primary: 1) Hillary Clinton would win. 2) There would be an enormous amount of voter suppression and fraud. Well the results are in, and the state of the state in New York is very, very bad. The Daily Beast reports: Alba Guerrero was dumbfounded. She’d arrived at her polling place in Ozone Park, Queens only to be told that she had been registered as a Republican since 2004. That was news to her. She remembers registering to vote for the first time as a Democrat so she could vote for Barack Obama in the general election in 2008. When she recently moved from Manhattan to Ozone Park, in Queens, she re-registered at the DMV, she says, and even checked online on March 9th to be sure she was registered at her new address. But when she showed up to vote for Bernie Sanders at PS63 on Tuesday, she says she was told she couldn’t. New York is a closed primary, where only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic Primary—and voters had to be registered by last October. She was told—very politely, she wants to make clear—by poll workers to take it up with a judge. She was given a court order in nearby Forest Hills. Guerrero drove to the Queens County Board of Elections and pled her case, but Judge Ira Margulis initially turned her away. “The judge tells me, ‘No, that’s it—2004.’ He shows me, I’m registered as a Republican. He says there’s nothing we can do,” she said. But on her way out she saw a Board of Elections worker holding something with her name on it. It was her 2004 voter registration, replete, she remembers, with her name, her social security number, her birthday—and someone else’s signature. “I said, ‘Excuse me, that’s not my signature,’” she said. “It’s not my handwriting. It showed completely different signatures.” Sure enough, the signatures are strikingly different. Next to a box checked “Republican,” her 2004 signature is written in clear, deliberate, legible cursive and includes her middle name. Her more recent signature is a loopy, illegible scrawl. She insists she’s never changed it in her life, and says she can produce old tax forms to prove it. So Guerrero went back to to Judge Margulis and showed him the discrepancy. “He allowed me to change for that day,“ she said. Mayor Bill de Blasio, who tweeted at 11:50 a.m., “There’s nothing more punk rock than voting. #GetOutAndVote”, had to change his tune by the end of the day. WNYC reported this morning that 126,000 Brooklyn Democrats had been removed from the voting rolls since last fall. What a fake liberal clown. “It has been reported to us from voters and voting rights monitors that the voting lists in Brooklyn contain numerous errors, including the purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting lists,” he said in a statement released after 5 p.m. on Election Day. “I am calling on the Board of Election to reverse that purge and update the lists again using Central, not Brooklyn borough, Board of Election staff.” A spokesperson for New York Attorney Eric Schneiderman told the New York Daily News that his office received “by far the largest volume of complaints we have received for an election since Attorney General Schneiderman took office in 2011.” Some polling sites did not open on time, citing too few election workers. Others had faulty voting machines, or were delivered half the number of promised voting machines. “I spent three hours this morning trying to vote,” he said. “I’m at a loss for words. I don’t understand that in the 21st century you have to stand in front of a judge to get to vote. It was laughable.” Gershman was peeved by what happened to him, but he wonders what would’ve happened if he didn’t have a car, or the ability to miss a morning of work to fight for his ballot. And he’s also confounded by what happened to Guerrero’s voter registration form, which he shared on YouTube and calls “pretty clear fraud.” Guerrero calls the whole incident “creepy.” She has “no idea” who might want to forge her signature on a voter registration form. “It’s just disheartening. We’re supposed to be the number one country in the world, but things like this you’d imagine would happen in a second or third-world country,” she said. “What happened to me, basically, was fraud.” Welcome to the real America, Alba Guerrero.
Sunday, April 24, 2016 9:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Only an ignorant Libtard (sorry for the redundancy there) would be unaware that Democrats are undemocratic, or that New York politics is a racket.
Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:12 AM
Quote:"He is funneling money to his wife's law firm," Brown says. "It's not only corruption, it's an environmental disaster and it's the kind of conflict of interest that is incompatible with the kind of public servant we expect for president of the United States." Brown goes on to say he would refuse to serve as Clinton's vice president. This argument was literally about chicken shit.
Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:23 AM
Quote:You sound surprised.
Quote:Only an ignorant reichwinger (sorry for the redundancy there) would be unaware that Republicans are undemocratic, or that Texas politics is a racket.
Sunday, April 24, 2016 1:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Is Ted Cruz really any better than Hillary Clinton??? Do you think he'll represent your interests in the WH any better than she will?
Monday, April 25, 2016 10:12 AM
Monday, April 25, 2016 4:52 PM
Monday, April 25, 2016 5:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:That's how we do in NY!!!!! Indeed [/snark] Additional Evidence Of Mind-Boggling Fraud Emerges from The New York Primary Quote:For the past week or so, I’ve been warning readers that the supposedly “liberal” state of New York has some of the most repressive voting laws in the country. Before reading the rest of this post, I suggest refreshing your memory on just how undemocratic New York is by checking out the following: Published April 13th: Hillary Clinton Will Win New York, Because New York is Running a Banana Republic Primary Published yesterday: As Expected, New York’s Primary is Already a Pathetic Mess As such, two things were obvious going into the New York primary: 1) Hillary Clinton would win. 2) There would be an enormous amount of voter suppression and fraud. Well the results are in, and the state of the state in New York is very, very bad. The Daily Beast reports: Alba Guerrero was dumbfounded. She’d arrived at her polling place in Ozone Park, Queens only to be told that she had been registered as a Republican since 2004. That was news to her. She remembers registering to vote for the first time as a Democrat so she could vote for Barack Obama in the general election in 2008. When she recently moved from Manhattan to Ozone Park, in Queens, she re-registered at the DMV, she says, and even checked online on March 9th to be sure she was registered at her new address. But when she showed up to vote for Bernie Sanders at PS63 on Tuesday, she says she was told she couldn’t. New York is a closed primary, where only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic Primary—and voters had to be registered by last October. She was told—very politely, she wants to make clear—by poll workers to take it up with a judge. She was given a court order in nearby Forest Hills. Guerrero drove to the Queens County Board of Elections and pled her case, but Judge Ira Margulis initially turned her away. “The judge tells me, ‘No, that’s it—2004.’ He shows me, I’m registered as a Republican. He says there’s nothing we can do,” she said. But on her way out she saw a Board of Elections worker holding something with her name on it. It was her 2004 voter registration, replete, she remembers, with her name, her social security number, her birthday—and someone else’s signature. “I said, ‘Excuse me, that’s not my signature,’” she said. “It’s not my handwriting. It showed completely different signatures.” Sure enough, the signatures are strikingly different. Next to a box checked “Republican,” her 2004 signature is written in clear, deliberate, legible cursive and includes her middle name. Her more recent signature is a loopy, illegible scrawl. She insists she’s never changed it in her life, and says she can produce old tax forms to prove it. So Guerrero went back to to Judge Margulis and showed him the discrepancy. “He allowed me to change for that day,“ she said. Mayor Bill de Blasio, who tweeted at 11:50 a.m., “There’s nothing more punk rock than voting. #GetOutAndVote”, had to change his tune by the end of the day. WNYC reported this morning that 126,000 Brooklyn Democrats had been removed from the voting rolls since last fall. What a fake liberal clown. “It has been reported to us from voters and voting rights monitors that the voting lists in Brooklyn contain numerous errors, including the purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting lists,” he said in a statement released after 5 p.m. on Election Day. “I am calling on the Board of Election to reverse that purge and update the lists again using Central, not Brooklyn borough, Board of Election staff.” A spokesperson for New York Attorney Eric Schneiderman told the New York Daily News that his office received “by far the largest volume of complaints we have received for an election since Attorney General Schneiderman took office in 2011.” Some polling sites did not open on time, citing too few election workers. Others had faulty voting machines, or were delivered half the number of promised voting machines. “I spent three hours this morning trying to vote,” he said. “I’m at a loss for words. I don’t understand that in the 21st century you have to stand in front of a judge to get to vote. It was laughable.” Gershman was peeved by what happened to him, but he wonders what would’ve happened if he didn’t have a car, or the ability to miss a morning of work to fight for his ballot. And he’s also confounded by what happened to Guerrero’s voter registration form, which he shared on YouTube and calls “pretty clear fraud.” Guerrero calls the whole incident “creepy.” She has “no idea” who might want to forge her signature on a voter registration form. “It’s just disheartening. We’re supposed to be the number one country in the world, but things like this you’d imagine would happen in a second or third-world country,” she said. “What happened to me, basically, was fraud.” Welcome to the real America, Alba Guerrero. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Tuesday, April 26, 2016 7:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:That's how we do in NY!!!!! Indeed [/snark] Additional Evidence Of Mind-Boggling Fraud Emerges from The New York Primary Quote:For the past week or so, I’ve been warning readers that the supposedly “liberal” state of New York has some of the most repressive voting laws in the country. Before reading the rest of this post, I suggest refreshing your memory on just how undemocratic New York is by checking out the following: Published April 13th: Hillary Clinton Will Win New York, Because New York is Running a Banana Republic Primary Published yesterday: As Expected, New York’s Primary is Already a Pathetic Mess As such, two things were obvious going into the New York primary: 1) Hillary Clinton would win. 2) There would be an enormous amount of voter suppression and fraud. Well the results are in, and the state of the state in New York is very, very bad. The Daily Beast reports: Alba Guerrero was dumbfounded. She’d arrived at her polling place in Ozone Park, Queens only to be told that she had been registered as a Republican since 2004. That was news to her. She remembers registering to vote for the first time as a Democrat so she could vote for Barack Obama in the general election in 2008. When she recently moved from Manhattan to Ozone Park, in Queens, she re-registered at the DMV, she says, and even checked online on March 9th to be sure she was registered at her new address. But when she showed up to vote for Bernie Sanders at PS63 on Tuesday, she says she was told she couldn’t. New York is a closed primary, where only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic Primary—and voters had to be registered by last October. She was told—very politely, she wants to make clear—by poll workers to take it up with a judge. She was given a court order in nearby Forest Hills. Guerrero drove to the Queens County Board of Elections and pled her case, but Judge Ira Margulis initially turned her away. “The judge tells me, ‘No, that’s it—2004.’ He shows me, I’m registered as a Republican. He says there’s nothing we can do,” she said. But on her way out she saw a Board of Elections worker holding something with her name on it. It was her 2004 voter registration, replete, she remembers, with her name, her social security number, her birthday—and someone else’s signature. “I said, ‘Excuse me, that’s not my signature,’” she said. “It’s not my handwriting. It showed completely different signatures.” Sure enough, the signatures are strikingly different. Next to a box checked “Republican,” her 2004 signature is written in clear, deliberate, legible cursive and includes her middle name. Her more recent signature is a loopy, illegible scrawl. She insists she’s never changed it in her life, and says she can produce old tax forms to prove it. So Guerrero went back to to Judge Margulis and showed him the discrepancy. “He allowed me to change for that day,“ she said. Mayor Bill de Blasio, who tweeted at 11:50 a.m., “There’s nothing more punk rock than voting. #GetOutAndVote”, had to change his tune by the end of the day. WNYC reported this morning that 126,000 Brooklyn Democrats had been removed from the voting rolls since last fall. What a fake liberal clown. “It has been reported to us from voters and voting rights monitors that the voting lists in Brooklyn contain numerous errors, including the purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting lists,” he said in a statement released after 5 p.m. on Election Day. “I am calling on the Board of Election to reverse that purge and update the lists again using Central, not Brooklyn borough, Board of Election staff.” A spokesperson for New York Attorney Eric Schneiderman told the New York Daily News that his office received “by far the largest volume of complaints we have received for an election since Attorney General Schneiderman took office in 2011.” Some polling sites did not open on time, citing too few election workers. Others had faulty voting machines, or were delivered half the number of promised voting machines. “I spent three hours this morning trying to vote,” he said. “I’m at a loss for words. I don’t understand that in the 21st century you have to stand in front of a judge to get to vote. It was laughable.” Gershman was peeved by what happened to him, but he wonders what would’ve happened if he didn’t have a car, or the ability to miss a morning of work to fight for his ballot. And he’s also confounded by what happened to Guerrero’s voter registration form, which he shared on YouTube and calls “pretty clear fraud.” Guerrero calls the whole incident “creepy.” She has “no idea” who might want to forge her signature on a voter registration form. “It’s just disheartening. We’re supposed to be the number one country in the world, but things like this you’d imagine would happen in a second or third-world country,” she said. “What happened to me, basically, was fraud.” Welcome to the real America, Alba Guerrero. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns. Fugetaboudit! NY has the best voter suppression in the country, f#ck Neveda, Colorado, hell even North Carolina or the Koch brothers can't top the Big Apple. New York, the home of the crooked politician............we aim to destroy the democratic process. Cuomo colluding with the prick from New Jersey "Jumping Jimmy" Chris Christie (what $50 million missing from the NJ Transit Hub?). Yep, we have the market cornered when it comes to suppressing the vote. Every where else their as honest as the day is long. How do you think Trump built all those buildings and never paid anyone under the table? Sheldon Silver ran NY like a Chicago night club for decades without taking a single bribe...........no, wait....he's going to jail for that. And Bush got the Supreme Court to shill for him without so much as a whoopsy daisy. Yeah, NY is a steaming pile of doggie dung when it comes to downright nasty cheating. Everybody's on the take. New York, so nasty they named it twice................... SGG
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I am getting the impression that you think the rest of America should fix the Democrat party of New York, or maybe also the Republican Party of New York. Or maybe all of New York.
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