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Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
Tuesday, July 21, 2015 8:46 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Why it's good to live in Switzerland: work-life balance, wages, taxes, healthcare, public transport, etc etc http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-life-balance Sounds exactly like Ohio. They also have this: http://www.swisstrails.ch/swisstrails_engl/
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Why it's good to live in Switzerland: work-life balance, wages, taxes, healthcare, public transport, etc etc http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-life-balance
Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:24 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, July 25, 2015 9:59 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:03 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Saturday, July 25, 2015 6:44 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:40 AM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Sunday, July 26, 2015 9:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Does it help if {the Swiss} thieve and steal gazillions of wealth from everybody in the world, pretending that your Nazi thug clients are credible owners of all the loot? How many nations COULDN'T make a go of it by stealing from every honest person on the planet, or conspiring with the Nazis?
Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:49 AM
Quote:By 1150, the Order's original mission of guarding pilgrims had changed into a mission of guarding their valuables through an innovative way of issuing letters of credit, an early precursor of modern banking. Pilgrims would visit a Templar house in their home country, depositing their deeds and valuables. The Templars would then give them a letter which would describe their holdings. Modern scholars have stated that the letters were encrypted with a cipher alphabet based on a Maltese Cross; however there is some disagreement on this, and it is possible that the code system was introduced later, and not something used by the medieval Templars themselves.While traveling, the pilgrims could present the letter to other Templars along the way, to "withdraw" funds from their accounts. This kept the pilgrims safe since they were not carrying valuables, and further increased the power of the Templars. The Knights' involvement in banking grew over time into a new basis for money, as Templars became increasingly involved in banking activities. One indication of their powerful political connections is that the Templars' involvement in usury did not lead to more controversy within the Order and the church at large. Officially the idea of lending money in return for interest was forbidden by the church, but the Order sidestepped this with clever loopholes, such as a stipulation that the Templars retained the rights to the production of mortgaged property. Or as one Templar researcher put it, "Since they weren't allowed to charge interest, they charged rent instead."
Quote:At dawn on Friday, October 13, 1307, scores of French Templars were simultaneously arrested by agents of King Philip, later to be tortured in locations such as the tower at Chinon, into admitting heresy and other sacrilegious offenses in the Order. Then they were put to death.
Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: That was 70 years ago, too long ago to account for Swiss wealth today. Roughly 20% stolen wealth was returned from Switzerland as of 2005. But "At least $115-$175 billion (2005 prices) remains unreturned despite numerous clear and explicit international agreements ..." However, Swiss GDP in 2005 was $400 billion. And the Swiss have been accumulating wealth at that comparative rate for many decades. A single, relatively insignificant, one time infusion of stolen wealth 70 years ago can't account for the magnitude of Swiss wealth today. Or, to calculate it out, if the stolen wealth represented at most 1/2 of Swiss GDP in 1945, the Swiss accumulated GDP since then is 140 TIMES that amount. Stolen wealth represents much less than 1% of Swiss wealth. And too, the AVERAGE Swiss citizen never did then, and certainly doesn't now, have access to any of that wealth. You'll have to account for their superior standard of living some other way. I would suggest that being bankers to the world is a high-profit business, that, if adequately taxed and redistributed to the people, would contribute significantly to a high standard of living. So, the first conclusion to be drawn is an economy needs a high profit GLOBAL business, second, that wealth needs to be taxed, and third, that military spending is dead weight on an economy.
Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:36 PM
Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 70 years worth of interest and return from stolen goods has no effect? I had no idea you were THAT bad at math. And funding the national treasury with the income and taxation of that stolen loot in comparison to other nations having that stolen treasure missing from their reserves and revenues makes no difference? I can't tell if you are proclaiming that you are really stupid or you only profess to be naive.
Wednesday, July 29, 2015 6:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: That was 70 years ago, too long ago to account for Swiss wealth today. Roughly 20% stolen wealth was returned from Switzerland as of 2005. But "At least $115-$175 billion (2005 prices) remains unreturned despite numerous clear and explicit international agreements ..." However, Swiss GDP in 2005 was $400 billion. And the Swiss have been accumulating wealth at that comparative rate for many decades. A single, relatively insignificant, one time infusion of stolen wealth 70 years ago can't account for the magnitude of Swiss wealth today. Or, to calculate it out, if the stolen wealth represented at most 1/2 of Swiss GDP in 1945, the Swiss accumulated GDP since then is 140 TIMES that amount. Stolen wealth represents much less than 1% of Swiss wealth. And too, the AVERAGE Swiss citizen never did then, and certainly doesn't now, have access to any of that wealth. You'll have to account for their superior standard of living some other way. I would suggest that being bankers to the world is a high-profit business, that, if adequately taxed and redistributed to the people, would contribute significantly to a high standard of living. So, the first conclusion to be drawn is an economy needs a high profit GLOBAL business, second, that wealth needs to be taxed, and third, that military spending is dead weight on an economy. 70 years worth of interest and return from stolen goods has no effect? I had no idea you were THAT bad at math. And funding the national treasury with the income and taxation of that stolen loot in comparison to other nations having that stolen treasure missing from their reserves and revenues makes no difference? I can't tell if you are proclaiming that you are really stupid or you only profess to be naive.
Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: AHEM! I had no idea YOU were that bad at math! Shall we agree that interest does NOT keep up with inflation?
Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:11 PM
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Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:01 PM
Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:26 PM
Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Second, I know you're making a point about historical wealth - sources and growth. But I just wanted to add that there's a problem with per capita figures - they're averages. A few REALLY wealthy people can raise the average of the miserable many. While the averages may be similar between the two countries, the life experiences of the people aren't.
Friday, July 31, 2015 10:37 PM
Monday, August 3, 2015 12:29 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Monday, August 3, 2015 6:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: To be really blunt, if the Swiss are rich today partly because of Nazis stealing Jewish wealth, then Americans should be fabulously more wealthy than the Swiss because of Europeans stealing the wealth of Native Americans.
Monday, August 3, 2015 7:13 AM
Monday, August 3, 2015 8:13 AM
Monday, August 3, 2015 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Interesting, Switzerland is a European country that I really struggle to admire.
Monday, August 3, 2015 6:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Look at the CEO at Gravity Payments, a Seattle credit card processing firm.
Wednesday, August 5, 2015 7:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by second: Look at the CEO at Gravity Payments, a Seattle credit card processing firm. Its really amazing that a company that haz no actual product and only a 2nd hand connection to customerz uv the money shuffling industry can pay its employeez so much. And you never hear rite wingerz saying 'cant afford to pay executivez so much', its alwayz 'you hav to pay that kind uv money to attract good talent'.
Thursday, August 6, 2015 3:12 AM
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Monday, October 26, 2015 4:07 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:16 AM
Sunday, March 1, 2020 7:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Gravity Payments' $70K minimum salary: CEO Dan Price shares result. Aug. 11, 2016
Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:38 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, March 1, 2020 12:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Good. So when are you hiring back all the people you fired for wrong think, upping all of your employees salaries at the cow-fart-bottling plant to $70k per year and cutting your own pay down to $70k per year? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, March 1, 2020 1:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Good. So when are you hiring back all the people you fired for wrong think, upping all of your employees salaries at the cow-fart-bottling plant to $70k per year and cutting your own pay down to $70k per year? Do Right, Be Right. :)6ix, you are the guy who was opposed to raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour or $30,000 per year. You also misunderstood the very real point of the article which is that American business-owners keep wages low because they are greedy, then they deny it is greed and instead say that business would have to fire people if the minimum wage was raised. I will not be rehiring the Republican who stole diesel, or the Republican who embezzled, or the one who was selling my power tools. That is mostly because they now are convicted felons. My lawyers and private investigators made airtight cases because the Republican District Attorney did not care to spend his budget punishing Republicans. His advice had been to fire the thieves, give their future employers good references, and let them become somebody else's problem. He was advising reducing my expenses and also sabotaging my competitors with bad employees I fire. Pretty typical for a Republican. Being against raising wages is also pretty typical along with lying about the reason for not raising wages: pure greed. My lowest paid? Per Year? $58,791. But Texas isn't as expensive as Seattle. And that employee is buying a new house. I promised her in December $50,000 for the down payment, but she doesn't get the money until she closes on a deal. She is still looking at houses. That $50K is above and beyond salary. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, March 1, 2020 4:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: This isn't about me. This is about you.
Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:23 PM
Sunday, March 1, 2020 7:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Cut your pay. That's what the article you've been tracking for five years was all about. It's got a happy ending. Time to give up those millions. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Cut your pay. That's what the article you've been tracking for five years was all about. It's got a happy ending. Time to give up those millions. Do Right, Be Right. :)The article was about raising pay to $70,000 per year.
Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:49 PM
Sunday, March 1, 2020 11:14 PM
Monday, March 2, 2020 7:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's not what your article was about. It was about a business owner who gave his employees $70,000 per year and also cut his own pay to $70,000 per year. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, March 2, 2020 8:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: If I were to make a symbolic statement it would be to lower my salary to $137,700 -- Social Security's 2020 maximum amount of taxable earnings.
Monday, March 2, 2020 8:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: If I were to make a symbolic statement it would be to lower my salary to $137,700 -- Social Security's 2020 maximum amount of taxable earnings. Then do it. In this fantasy world where you run a multi-million dollar business, you'd have a harder time living off of $137,700 per year than I do off of $7,000. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, March 20, 2021 10:34 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
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Wednesday, March 1, 2023 8:09 AM
Quote:Specifically, what’s frustrating me is America’s seeming inability to build the things it needs to build in order to prosper and flourish in the 21st century. From housing to transit to solar power to transmission lines to semiconductor fabs, the U.S. has little trouble marshalling the financial and physical capital to create what it needs, but ends up stymied by entrenched local interests who exploit a thicket of veto points to preserve the built environment of the 1970s. Ever day, new examples of this stasis pile up. In Berkeley, a plan to build student housing was just blocked by a court, which demanded that the university study whether students themselves constitute an environmental hazard. I wish I were kidding, but I’m not.
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