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Poland to stop sending arms to Ukraine

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Thursday, September 21, 2023 3:34 PM

WHOZIT

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Thursday, September 21, 2023 4:23 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Beyond Capacity, the over flowing glass.

Israel, Poland and Russia thinks him a terrorist



Banderite or Banderovite or Banderowiec; a faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, nicknamed Bandera's engaged in various atrocities, including murder of civilians, most of whom were ethnic Poles, Jews and Romani people.

Their military is emptying out and getting shipped to Ukraine, an Open Border policy then makes cheap shipment collapse the home grown Mineral and Farmer industry in Poland as it is overwhelmed with foreign shipments. The millions people who fled to neighboring Poland might not return meaning Polish will be forever cultural change and ethnically changed and changed also by language.

They have a similar history and culture does link but also a lot of conflict and blood, they are similar but also not the same and at time very different views, shifting kingdoms, Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, big massacres in the war and little meaningful and independent diplomacy and contact between the Polish People's Republic (Poland) and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (Ukraine) until the fall of the USSR, over the years many tribes and peoples and languages and cultures mixed but they also sometimes fought, shifting boundaries. From 2004, 2008, 2012, 2014 when Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula the Polish support for Ukrainian sovereignty has become an important component of Poland foreign policy, they began to argue over history books and then a political clash over different interpretations of bitter events regarding Poles and Ukrainians during World War II have at times led to a sharp deterioration of the relations

The current news is on a number of sources, they almost empty their gun arsenal, give many bombs and bullet in armory give them to Ukraine, take in millions upon millions of refugees, feed them, clothe people, give people jobs, set up translation service...Polish economy starts to crash a little under strain and new economic stresses, guy coming from Ukraine are not right mentally can be problem people or need medical aid, the small Polish country gives them Self-propelled artillery, flying equipment and Helicopters, Military Truckls Armored Cars Tanks, Air-to-air missiles for the older Migs, a cash security bank swap of US$875 million to prevent Ukraine banks from collapse, Infantry fighting vehicles ...Ukraine then floods the Polish market with cheap goods, cheap ore, cheap grain, and collapses market prices for Local Polish makers and wrecks the Poland economy more, they in Urakine perhaps also make what could be translated as Ungrateful statements saying Poland is not helping enough.


Lots of Vodka in the city at night and stabbings
the video claims
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V8DAmZOTJ46H/
'Ukrainian Refugees Kill a Polish Man After he Tries to stop Them From Harassing a Young Woman'

A Ukrainian who fled from Poland made a video about how much Poles hate Ukrainian
https://rumble.com/v3hdm3g-a-ukrainian-who-fled-from-poland-made-a-vid
eo-about-how-much-poles-hate-ukr.html



other social media sites

After taking them in threats and violent attacks, they want you to say 'Glory to Ukraine'


video surfaced online wherein Ukrainian youths can be seen like a pack but ganging up on Polish


Crime jumps little gangster kids beat Polish who won't say Glory to Ukraine and a public opinion follows, 'Deport Them To Fight Russia' people get fed up and Anger As Ukrainian Youths Thrash Polish People In Warsaw

Some others on social media claimed the gangs were Georgian who pretended to be Ukrainian?

"They're kicking Ukrainian men out of Poland, sending them back to fight" | Redacted News

Ukraine also wants the men back to fight





Jack Posobiec the US Alt-Media type, Speaks Out After Being Placed On Ukrainian Government Hit List



Poland done sending arms to Ukraine, leader says, as trade dispute escalates
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/poland-done-sending-arms-to-ukraine-leade
r-says-as-trade-dispute-escalates-1.6571262


Grain spat drags Ukraine’s ties with ally Poland to lowest point since start of Russian invasion
https://kdvr.com/news/money/ap-grain-spat-drags-ukraines-ties-with-all
y-poland-to-lowest-point-since-start-of-russian-invasion
/

Ukraine complains to WTO about Hungary, Poland and Slovakia banning its food products
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/business/ap-business/ap-ukraine-complain
s-to-wto-about-hungary-poland-and-slovakia-banning-its-farm-products
/

This was the EU some months ago

EU rejects Ukraine grain bans by Poland and Hungary
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65292698

Poland agrees to let Ukraine grain through
https://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/23468343.poland-agrees-let-uk
raine-grain
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Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:47 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Poland has defied EU rules and banned Ukrainian grain exports, saying they are flooding the market and undermining their farmers. Ukraine has filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization against that move.

In retaliation over grain, Poland’s prime minister said it was done sending weapons to Ukraine amid this grain dispute.

At the heart of this feud is Russia’s withdrawal from the Black Sea grain deal and its continued blockade of the Black Sea. Ukraine is still trying to get grain out through its seaports, but it is risky. Instead, Ukraine is shipping grain via railroads into Poland, which is how Poland and Ukraine got into this argument over ammo and grain in the first place.

https://www.vox.com/2023/9/21/23883858/zelenskyy-washington-congress-b
iden-ukraine-war


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 21, 2023 10:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Poland has defied EU rules and banned Ukrainian grain exports, saying they are flooding the market and undermining their farmers. Ukraine has filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization against that move.

Ukraine is not in the EU, and the EU has no authority to tell any nation within the EU how it should handle imports from non-EU nations. That's why Ukraine is appealing to the WTO, not the EU.

In fact, I would say that the EU has no authority whatsoever to interfere with ANY member nations' level of trade even within the EU, any member nations' economic policy or internal affairs. So it can't tell member nations that they must open their borders to immigrants, reflect LGBTQ+ values in their laws, dictate the level of amount of trade, or impose sanctions or require member nations to impose sanctions. Remember, the EU is NON-DEMOCRATIC. It is a giant centralized bureaucracy - which I know you favor based on your devotion to the DNC/RNC cabal and transnational rule - but IMHO it should be clipped in its neverending quest for more and more power.

The EU, as a trade organization, has the authority to set standards for goods traded among EU nations. And the ECB has the authority to dictate national fiscal policies for any nation stupid enough to have adopted the Euro.


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Friday, September 22, 2023 12:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. I posted about this yesterday in one of the Leftoid's dumbshit Russian threads.

Fuck Ukraine.



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Friday, September 22, 2023 6:51 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Poland has defied EU rules and banned Ukrainian grain exports, saying they are flooding the market and undermining their farmers. Ukraine has filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization against that move.

Ukraine is not in the EU, and the EU has no authority to tell any nation within the EU how it should handle imports from non-EU nations. That's why Ukraine is appealing to the WTO, not the EU.

In fact, I would say that the EU has no authority whatsoever to interfere with ANY member nations' level of trade even within the EU, any member nations' economic policy or internal affairs. So it can't tell member nations that they must open their borders to immigrants, reflect LGBTQ+ values in their laws, dictate the level of amount of trade, or impose sanctions or require member nations to impose sanctions. Remember, the EU is NON-DEMOCRATIC. It is a giant centralized bureaucracy - which I know you favor based on your devotion to the DNC/RNC cabal and transnational rule - but IMHO it should be clipped in its neverending quest for more and more power.

The EU, as a trade organization, has the authority to set standards for goods traded among EU nations. And the ECB has the authority to dictate national fiscal policies for any nation stupid enough to have adopted the Euro.

Signym, you are full of bullshit:

1) In April 2023: As part of an EU initiative, all tariffs and quotas have been lifted on Ukrainian grain exports into the bloc’s 27 member states in order to facilitate the product’s transit around the world, including to Africa, where a Russian blockade on Ukrainian exports has been particularly painful.

The grain has, however, failed to move out of some eastern EU countries, including Poland, forcing down prices and fueling resentment in farming communities.

Poland’s prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, had said he would ask the European Commission and member states to reimpose barriers to Ukrainian grain exports but Polish farmers claim nothing has been done.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/04/polish-farmers-threaten-
to-ruin-zelenskiy-visit-amid-grain-dispute


2) Sept 22 2023: Polls suggest parliamentary elections on 15 October will be an extremely close-run race, and the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party is looking for boosts to its support wherever possible. Poland’s ruling party pivots away from Ukraine in an attempt to shore up votes with farmers.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/21/poland-ruling-party-pivo
ts-away-from-ukraine-pis


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 22, 2023 11:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine.

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Friday, September 22, 2023 11:57 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine.

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'The Big Guy' gives a shit, he and his junkie son have gotten millions from that 2nd world country. They may have pics of Hunter banging a goat.

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Friday, September 22, 2023 1:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine.

WHOZIT: 'The Big Guy' gives a shit, he and his junkie son have gotten millions from that 2nd world country. They may have pics of Hunter banging a goat.



Or solid evidence of "The Big Guy" extorting money or taking bribes. I wonder sometimes if his commitment to Kiev is due to blackmail.

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Friday, September 22, 2023 1:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Poland has defied EU rules and banned Ukrainian grain exports, saying they are flooding the market and undermining their farmers. Ukraine has filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization against that move.

SIGNY: Ukraine is not in the EU, and the EU has no authority to tell any nation within the EU how it should handle imports from non-EU nations. That's why Ukraine is appealing to the WTO, not the EU.
In fact, I would say that the EU has no authority whatsoever to interfere with ANY member nations' level of trade even within the EU, any member nations' economic policy or internal affairs. So it can't tell member nations that they must open their borders to immigrants, reflect LGBTQ+ values in their laws, dictate the level of amount of trade, or impose sanctions or require member nations to impose sanctions. Remember, the EU is NON-DEMOCRATIC. It is a giant centralized bureaucracy - which I know you favor based on your devotion to the DNC/RNC cabal and transnational rule - but IMHO it should be clipped in its neverending quest for more and more power.
The EU, as a trade organization, has the authority to set standards for goods traded among EU nations. And the ECB has the authority to dictate national fiscal policies for any nation stupid enough to have adopted the Euro.

SECOND: Signym, you are full of bullshit:

1) In April 2023: As part of an EU initiative, all tariffs and quotas have been lifted on Ukrainian grain exports into the bloc’s 27 member states in order to facilitate the product’s transit around the world, including to Africa, where a Russian blockade on Ukrainian exports has been particularly painful.

"Lifting tariffs and quotas" does not REQUIRE any member nation to import anything. That is why Ukraine is appealing to the WTO, NOT the EU, to settle this dispute. The EU has no authority in this matter.

Quote:

The grain has, however, failed to move out of some eastern EU countries, including Poland, forcing down prices and fueling resentment in farming communities.
This is like "Bubblegum got on the dog".
HOW did this happen?

Quote:

Poland’s prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, had said he would ask the European Commission and member states to reimpose barriers to Ukrainian grain exports but Polish farmers claim nothing has been done.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/04/polish-farmers-threaten-
to-ruin-zelenskiy-visit-amid-grain-dispute


2) Sept 22 2023: Polls suggest parliamentary elections on 15 October will be an extremely close-run race, and the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party is looking for boosts to its support wherever possible. Poland’s ruling party pivots away from Ukraine in an attempt to shore up votes with farmers.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/21/poland-ruling-party-pivo
ts-away-from-ukraine-pis

So Polish politicians are responding to pressure from their constituency, instead of steamrolling them with non-democratic EU initiatives??

DEMOCRACY!
WHAT A NOVEL IDEA!!

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM



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Friday, September 22, 2023 6:47 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


President Of Poland: Ukraine Is Like A "Drowning Person," "We Have To Look After Our Own Interests"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/09/20/president_of_poland
_ukraine_is_like_a_drowning_person_we_have_to_look_after_our_own_interests.html

Polish President Andrzej Duda: "Ukraine is like a drowning person who can pull you to the depths.

Transgender werido American who translated and was a spokes person for Ukraine and ran a Hit-List is now Suspended from Ukrainian Military?

Former US soldier turned trans Ukrainian military official raises major red flags with troubling posts

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/09/19/former-us-soldier-turned-trans
-ukrainian-military-official-raises-major-red-flags-with-troubling-posts-1397340
/

Ukraine’s Transgender Military Spox Fired For ‘Unapproved’ Statements (video)

https://en.protothema.gr/ukraines-transgender-military-spox-fired-for-
unapproved-statements-video
/


We are entering clown world as hundreds of thousands die



the freak show will go on

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