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20 Years Later Dick Cheney and George Bush Junior's 'Shock and Awe' and 'Mission Accomplished' in Iraq while bin Laden was in Pakistan?

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UPDATED: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 08:22
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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 7:30 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Maybe Iraq is more democratic, maybe it is somewhat better but what blood, freedom and treasure has been lost.
photos leak of torture, Guantanamo Bay, rendition program, Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse?, Enron scandals, Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal, Tax Cuts but only for his Bush buddies, Sinclair Broadcast Group?...Hurricane Katrina?...Adam Baldwin still blames Black African Americans for their own misery during Katrina.
Bush would get bin Laden they said, there would be all this magic money floating around to fix the economy and he would fix the exploding Shuttle and open up a McDonald's on Planet Mars

Long Long ago this site was something else, there are even rumors it was a Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda forum fan board ....if those rumors are true....then 1 year after 911 September 2002 a tv show called Firefly came out. Back then Politics was very much part of the discussion.

'the Patriot Act' comes while the new happy US population is zombified on drugs, pornography, poison in your foods, gambling and other vices and addiction and jihad guys go around trying to murder Rushdie. Where did it all go?

they censored 28 pages to cover the Saudi assholes

Then you had that Axis of Evil speech Iran, Iraq, and North Korea which later included Cuba, Libya, and Syria.

North Korea didn't wait around while others got invaded so a starving communist country with a cult of personality monarch then got working on ICBMs and Nukes. John Bolton would expand on the Bush jr speech and added three more nations to be grouped with rogue states: Cuba, Libya, and Syria his claim for inclusion in this grouping were 'state sponsors of terrorism'

Libya collapsed and running of bombs and guns move into Northern Iraq and Syria and ISIS is born, Obama was largely not interested in world politics and as narcissist and hot headed and egotistical as Trump was at least he more or less puts an end to ISIS. The Economist featured an article about the "Axis of Diesel" in reference to a burgeoning alliance of Iran, Russia, and Venezuela. In February 2022 an Australian Israel Jerusalem globe trotting perverted war-mongering 'American' commentator Danielle Pletka called China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea a "new" axis of evil in an article for the National Review, this psycho woman works for American Enterprise Institute (AEI) she was on the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, Pletka strongly supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Other idiots and war mongers Henry Paulson watching the banks crash, Donald Rumsfeld shifty and deceptive, Michael Chertoff, Elliott Abrams, Ari Fleischer, David Frum, Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Colin Powell’s yellow cake test tube UN speech and the 'Bushism' of the day that would send markets into a panic as people were unsure what the President was saying. Turkish psychopath President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Greece, Cyprus, Egypt, France and the United Arab Emirates of forming an "alliance of evil". Are there positives from this ...we didn't get many Vietnam era Bob Dylan protests songs against war, its all controlled they say but "Axes of Evil" – the title of a song by the Canadian heavy metal band 3 Inches of Blood and an Aussie comedy act The Axis of Awesome – has shown you how pop music for the past 20-30 years has been just the same 3 or 4 chords put on a loop, played again and again and again...why does all music sound the same? because it is!

I would hope Ukraine today will not become the Asscrackistan of humanity in the future because they too fought Russian Soviets, I would hope the Ukraine culture different. It seems ISIS and al-Qaeda are back in Afghanistan fighting for turf after being defeated, 22 years later the mohammedans of Afghanistan a jihadi factory place that prays to a 1400 year old terrortsic pedophile as their prophet it is no different from the near Stone Age culture that existed before America bombed it and invaded to fight terrorism once upon a time, the same Stone Age place other than getting some new high tech military toys left behind during the withdrawal and the Fall of Kabul.

People say Biden is the worst President or Trump or Obama but back then people would almost label you a traitor for not supporting the Invasion of Iraq and Dixie Chicks were sent threats because they may have criticized the war.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 7:57 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


crazy conspiracy and scandal?

We got plenty of 'Pirate News' style conspiracy over the years, a number of conspiracy were dumb 911 drones aliens ufo fake airplanes...the conspiracy is the Saudi cover up the war for Oil and stand down before 911, jihadi islamist muslims have attack Americans many, many times, the incompetence not learning from previous attacks and allowing these guys to move around...pretending that a number of Arab muslims did not celebrate and dance for joy as innocent Americans, many nationality of the world including muslims burnt to death in those buildings the information warfare to bury certain truth and promote other fake non-truths, and the 28 pages to cover rich Arab royals who were directly involved.

Some past threads


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=21798 , http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=59776 ,
, http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=44351 , http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=56106 , http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=41345
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http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=14701 , http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=11693 , http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=17325
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=10493
, http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=11701 ,
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http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=10019

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=12572 ,

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http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=17238


and finally a prediction thread for those who said everything would be perfect and wonderful or those who said the world would end

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51008

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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 8:22 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Iraq War 20 years on: End of the US’s post-9/11 neoconservative dream
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/iraq-war-2003-bush-neoconservative-fa
ilure-civilian-deaths-islamist-insurgencies
/

Operation Iraqi Freedom: 20 years since the war that undermined U.S. credibility
https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-03-20/operation-iraqi-fr
eedom-20-years-since-the-war-that-undermined-us-credibility.html

Bush addressed the nation as a barrage of missiles ... It is fair to say that without the Iraq war, neither Donald Trump nor Barack Obama would probably have been president


Senators take first step in repealing Iraq War authorization
https://accesswdun.com/article/2023/3/1173688

Gordon Campbell on how similar Vladimir Putin is to George W. Bush
http://werewolf.co.nz/2023/03/gordon-campbell-on-how-similar-vladimir-
putin-is-to-george-w-bush
/

Polls show support for Iraq War drop in 20 years post invasion
https://news.yahoo.com/polls-show-support-iraq-war-141500064.html

Tony Blair: Putin can't use Iraq as justification for Ukraine
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tony-blair-putin-cant-iraq-164052922.html
Former UK prime minister Tony Blair is by turns pensive and defiant as he reflects on the upcoming anniversaries

Two decades on, how the UK/US-led invasion turbo-charged Iraq into chaos
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64976144?at_bbc_team=editor
ial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_link_type=web_link&at_link_id=71BED960-C6DF-11ED-9093-8FB94744363C&at_format=link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_origin=BBCWorld


'A million lives later, I cannot forgive what American terrorism did to my country, Iraq'
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/19/violence-us-inva
sion-iraq-bombs-al-qaida-islamic-state


For 20 Years, Team Bush Has Escaped Prosecution for Their War Crimes in Iraq
https://truthout.org/articles/for-20-years-team-bush-has-escaped-prose
cution-for-war-crimes-in-iraq
/
One year after Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, the International Criminal Court charged him with war crimes.

Iraq Lessons for Ukraine
https://www.heritage.org/global-politics/commentary/iraq-lessons-ukrai
ne

How Ukraine could become America’s next forever war
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/2/24/23600166/ukraine-war-bide
n-russia-afghanistan-iraq-aid


In memory of 20th anniversary of the Iraq War
https://countercurrents.org/2023/03/in-memory-of-20th-anniversary-of-t
he-iraq-war
/
The War of Iraq by the United States is an event that will be inscribed in black letters forever.

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