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How are draft-dodgers seen in countries that have compulsory service, conscription aka Russia's Vietnam in Ukraine?

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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 10:13 AM

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Draft evasion happens for all kind of reason and has been a significant phenomenon in nations as different as Colombia, Eritrea, Canada, France, Russia, South Korea, Syria, and the United States. Accounts by photographers, scholars, artists, historians and journalists, along with memoiristic writings by draft evaders, indicate that the motives and beliefs of the evaders cannot be usefully stereotyped.

Russia Releases Video Showing Arrest of Mobilized Troops Who Refuse Orders

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Video released by Russian State Media today is circulating Social Media showing multiple mobilized Russian Troops being arrested for allegedly refusing deployment to Ukraine.

My favorite part of this video is the comments its receiving online. For some reason, everyone on Twitter, Reddit, and Telegram thinks that the conscripted Russian Soldiers in this video should have rallied together and revolted against the few Russian troops in charge of this formation. People seem to forget that just a few short weeks before this was filmed, a majority of conscripted Russians were working 9 to 5 jobs in regular fields like food service and construction. For a majority of them, this formation is probably one of the hardest things they've had to endure in their life, and it's also probably the first time some of them are seeing real firearms.

It's easy to be brave behind your keyboard, but I'd be willing to bet that an overwhelming majority of the Twitter and Reddit users claiming that they would have done something different in this scenario have never truly been in a challenging or dangerous situation. These guys were probably playing Counter-Strike: Global Offensive three weeks ago, and most likely have zero urge to be in a kinetic battle for their lives. They're not going to start revolting in Russia now, and that's because they're individually weighing their chances of surviving their conscription into the Russian military.

If your options in life are deploy to Ukraine, try to survive, and go home to your normal life after two years or spend the next decade of your life in a Russian Prison being sodomized and beaten by Russian prison guards, which do you think is the more sane choice? The third option is this group somehow coming together all at once and deciding to start a revolution at home, which still needlessly throws them into a conflict that none of them want to be participating in.

I feel for these dudes, but the thought process many keyboard warriors hold is conducted from a position of complete security. A comfort many of the men in this video won't know for the rest of their lives.



In America you had Nam, these dodgers they were verbally attacked and mocked, the draft dodgers were generally thought of as unpatriotic cowards by media.
Soldiers returning from war were jeered or called names, disliked, everything polarized.
A feeling within America was so strong that even many members of pacifist groups registered for War?

Poland and other countries abolished conscription but with a Russian inavsion of ukraine now the idea of compulsory service might be coming back to parts of Europe, Depends on the country South Korea has service also but in many parts of the world. most are jailed as punishment.

Canadian historian Jessica Squires emphasizes that the number of U.S. draft evaders coming to Canada was "only a fraction" of those who resisted the Vietnam War. According to a 1978 book by former members of President Gerald Ford's Clemency Board, 210,000 Americans were accused of draft offenses and 30,000 left the country. More recently, peace studies scholar David Cortright estimated that 60,000 to 100,000 left the U.S., mainly for Canada or Sweden. Others scattered elsewhere; for example, historian Frank Kusch mentions Mexico, scholar Anna Wittmann mentions Britain, and journalist Jan Wong describes one draft evader who sympathized with Mao Zedong's China and found refuge there. Draft evader Ken Kiask spent eight years traveling continuously across the Global South before returning to the U.S

Jim Green born in Birmingham, Alabama, Green moved to Canada to avoid being drafted for the Vietnam War. In 2008 Green supported Gregor Robertson in his successful run for mayor of Vancouver.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120301110046/http://www.theprovince.com/
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