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Real-world results of midterms: Direct hot war with Russia?

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 03:10
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Tuesday, November 15, 2022 5:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, you know that in order for the USA/NATO to be nakedly involved in Ukraine (as opposed to hiding behind sock puppet Zelenskiy) there would have to be a false flag.

And here it is:

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Russia Rejects Allegations Of Missile Attack On Poland, Slamming "Deliberate Provocation"

Tuesday, Nov 15, 2022 - 07:00 PM

Update(1500ET): Russia has issued its first statements in the wake of conflicting reporting concerning the suspected missile attack on Polish territory, just across the border with Ukraine. Russia is calling the reports a "deliberate provocation" and is denying that its forces have aimed any missiles near the Ukraine-Poland border, per Interfax news.

The Russian Defense Ministry issued a statement saying it has not taken part in "strikes against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish border" using "Russian weapons" - as is being alleged by Polish sources. The Russian statement further said it's Warsaw's attempt to escalate the situation. The Pentagon has meanwhile said it can't corroborate the reports at this early stage but is gathering more information. A Pentagon spokesman vowed the US stands ready to "defend every inch of NATO territory."



https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-tumble-after-report-stray-ro
ckets-hit-polish-town-near-ukraine-killing-two


US "defense" stocks are up. The rest are down.


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Tuesday, November 15, 2022 5:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Meanwhile, in the never-ending struggle between the Pentagon (which has SOME idea of what's winnable and what isn't) and the neocons (who believe that belief is enough for ... anything) the results of the election appear to have tipped policy away from negotiations (advocated by Milley) in favor of the neocons:

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US Tells Ukraine Talks Don't Need To Happen After Milley's Diplomacy Push

According to a report from POLITICO, the Biden administration has been reassuring Ukraine that peace talks with Russia don’t need to happen anytime soon after Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said this winter will provide an opportunity for diplomacy.


MORE AT https://news.antiwar.com/2022/11/14/report-us-tells-ukraine-talks-dont
-need-to-happen-after-milleys-comments
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Tuesday, November 15, 2022 6:52 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

US "defense" stocks are up. The rest are down.


Wrong. The rest are NOT down, Signym.

S&P 500 closed today at 3,991.73
up by 0.87%
+34.48 Today

Dow Jones Industrial Average closed today at 33,592.92
up by 0.17%
+56.22 Today

Nasdaq Composite closed today at 11,358.41
up by 1.45%
+162.19 Today

Russell 2000 Index closed today at 1,889.20
up by 1.50%
+27.95 Today

Almost surely the stock market will be down one of these days this week. On that day you will be "right", Signym.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 12:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It dropped on the news, but went up later.

Way to avoid the topic,SECOND!



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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Looks like our DoD isn't up for a hot war with Russia:

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Missile Strike May Have Come From Ukraine Self-Defense: US Officials
...Three U.S. officials said preliminary assessments suggested the missile was fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian one amid the crushing salvo against Ukraine’s electrical infrastructure Tuesday. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. -AP


More at

https://www.zerohedge.com/

At least somebody's got some common sense!

It occurred to me that if the USA really needed to send massive amounts of heavy weapons, they would probably have to convoy them in our aging fleet. Against all those hypersonic anti-ship missiles...




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