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Winter is coming, pipelines are blown up and Germany dismantled its Nulcear Power Stations?

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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Nuke Power electricity is the largest source of electricity in France, in 2018, the nuclear share was 71.67%, the highest percentage in the world.

Historical Political pressure came after Chernobyl and Fukushima so the Green German Party got German nuclear power begin to shut down. The topic received renewed attention and policy reversals when the anti-nuclear Green party was part of the federal government from 1998 to 2005, at the start of 2007 due to the political impact of the Russia-Belarus energy dispute, in 2010 when the economy-friendly FDP was part of Merkel's coalition, and in 2011 after the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan. Within days of the March 2011 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, large anti-nuclear protests occurred in Germany. Protests continued and, on 29 May 2011, Merkel's government announced that it would close all of its nuclear power plants by 2022.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592208
,
https://web.archive.org/web/20200515215854/https://journals.sagepub.co
m/doi/full/10.1177/0096340211414842

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http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14912184,00.html

In July 2022, faced with an energy crisis, the German parliament voted to reactivate closed coal power plants, at least temporarily.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/08/germany-reactivate-coal-
power-plants-russia-curbs-gas-flow


https://www.tumblr.com/search/angelamerkel





Today German Nuclear Power Extension More Likely, Minister Says
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/german-nuclear-power-extension-more-12341379
8.html

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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


I'm sorry, maybe my funny bone is just being tickled today but...



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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2




Because sometimes people (in this case, European pro-globalists in general and German Greens in particular) are so gorram stupid you just have to laugh. No other response is possible.

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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 9:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The Leftist party is coming to a quick end all around the world.

Ain't nobody going to be bitching about gender pronouns when they don't know where their next meal is coming from or how they're going to heat their house without chopping down walls and burning them in a barrel in their living room.

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Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


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What A Coincidence!!!

27 September 2022 by Larry Johnson

On the very day the world learns about the sabotage of Russia’s Nordstream 1 and Nordstream 2, guess what else happened? Well, Ukrainians from the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporhyzhia and Kherson oblasts voted in overwhelming numbers to become Russians. While that is a game changer that is not what I had in mind.

How about this–Poland on Tuesday inaugurated a new pipeline that will transport gas from Norway through Denmark and the Baltic Sea? That is it!!! What a coincidence!!

Or is it?

There is at least one prominent Polish citizen who believes the United States merits praise for sabotaging the Nordstream pipelines.

Altho the seas where the pipelines were blown are relatively shallow, they're still too deep for a human diver with normal equipment. That argues for this being state-sponsored, and not just a small group of nut-job Greens/Russophobes

Quote:

For former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, who happens to be married to Anne Appelbaum, an enthusiastic neo-con masquerading as a journalist, tweeted the following upon learning that the Nordstream lines were now “zlamany” (Polish for”kaput”): “Thank you, USA.”

But, perhaps that is a bit of deflection. Poland has longstanding animus towards Nordstream. In other words, Poland has a clear motive for backing the destruction of the Russian pipeline. More than a year ago -April 2021 to be precise–this appeared in print:

Poland strongly opposes the development of Nord Stream 2, which will give Gazprom a subsea alternative route for supplying natural gas to Western European customers. At present, that gas has to pass through overland pipeline networks in Poland and Ukraine, bringing in valuable transit fees and providing both nations – which do not always have cordial relations with Russia – a measure of energy security.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/poland-denies-provocative-naval
-maneuvers-near-nord-stream-2


One month later, Poland pitched a Kielbasi fit:

* Poland has reacted angrily to President Joe Biden’s decision to waive US sanctions on Nord Stream II, warning the move could threaten energy security across Central and Eastern Europe.

* “The information is definitely not positive from the security point of view, as we know perfectly that Nord Stream II is not only a business project – it is mostly a geopolitical project,” said Piotr Muller, a spokesman for the Polish government. . . .

* Announced following a phone-call between Joe Biden and Chancellor Angela Merkel, the US decision to lift sanctions was welcomed in Berlin, with Foreign Minister Heiko Maas noting that “it is an expression of the fact that Germany is an important partner for the US, one that it can count on in the future.”

* The highly controversial pipeline has met with vigorous opposition across Central and Eastern Europe, including in Poland and Ukraine where officials say the project would be used by the Kremlin as a geopolitical weapon, de-facto increase Europe’s dependence on Russian gas and threaten energy security in the Eastern half of the continent.
https://kafkadesk.org/2021/05/21/poland-angered-by-us-president-bidens
-nord-stream-ii-decision
/

Makes you wonder if there was some wheeling and dealing was going on between Washington and Warsaw. Given Warsaw’s critical location and role in ensuring U.S. and NATO military supplies is delivered to Ukraine, the Poles have a bit of leverage to push the United States to take out the pipelines or to help Poland take out the pipelines. Poland’s message to the United States was simple–reverse course on Nordstream and rupture the pipelines or you can find another way to move your military supplies to Ukraine.

But wait, doesn’t this create some real problems for Germany? Sure. But Poland “don’t” (sic) care. There was this little incident called World War II and it seems that the Poles are still miffed at the Germans. If revenge is a dish best served cold, then this sucker is a frozen dinner:

* Poland’s top politician said Thursday that the government will seek equivalent of some $1.3 trillion in reparations from Germany for the Nazis’ World War II invasion and occupation of his country.

* Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the Law and Justice party, announced the huge claim at the release of a long-awaited report on the cost to the country of years of Nazi German occupation as it marks 83 years since the start of World War II. . . .

* Germany’s Foreign Ministry said Thursday the government’s position remains “unchanged” in that “the question of reparations is concluded.”
https://apnews.com/article/poland-germany-world-war-ii-warsaw-49b0cf77
745a7b1cabfaa884c3bf0035


With this new supply of Polish controlled natural gas, Germany is in a tough spot. Buy from Poland or buy from the United States. Either way, the Germans pay a premium while the United States and Poland make some bank.



https://sonar21.com/what-a-coincidence/


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Wednesday, September 28, 2022 10:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Anybody with half a brain knows it wasn't the Russians.

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Thursday, September 29, 2022 3:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2



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A pipeline that could be turned off and on again was a leverage point for Russia that gave it some negotiation power. A destroyed pipeline gives Russia no leverage. This is truly elementary. One can not spin that away.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/whodunnit-facts-related-to-the-s
abotage-attack-on-the-nord-stream-pipelines.html


Altho I'm sure some will try


Quote:

Disabling NS and NS2 represents the definitive closure of any possibility of a German-Russia deal on gas supplies, with the added benefit of relegating Germany to the lowly status of absolute US vassal...

This was far from an isolated attack. On September 22 there was an attempt against Turkish Stream by Kiev saboteurs. The day before, naval drones with English language IDs were found in Crimea, suspected of being part of the plot. Add to it US helicopters overflying the future sabotage nodes weeks ago; a UK “research” vessel loitering in Danish waters since mid-September; and NATO tweeting about the testing of “new unmanned systems at sea” on the same day of the sabotage.



http://thesaker.is/germany-and-eu-have-been-handed-over-a-declaration-
of-war
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Saturday, October 1, 2022 4:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

What A Coincidence!!!

27 September 2022 by Larry Johnson

On the very day the world learns about the sabotage of Russia’s Nordstream 1 and Nordstream 2, guess what else happened? Well, Ukrainians from the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporhyzhia and Kherson oblasts voted in overwhelming numbers to become Russians. While that is a game changer that is not what I had in mind.

How about this–Poland on Tuesday inaugurated a new pipeline that will transport gas from Norway through Denmark and the Baltic Sea? That is it!!! What a coincidence!!

Or is it?

There is at least one prominent Polish citizen who believes the United States merits praise for sabotaging the Nordstream pipelines.

Altho the seas where the pipelines were blown are relatively shallow, they're still too deep for a human diver with normal equipment. That argues for this being state-sponsored, and not just a small group of nut-job Greens/Russophobes

Quote:

For former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, who happens to be married to Anne Appelbaum, an enthusiastic neo-con masquerading as a journalist, tweeted the following upon learning that the Nordstream lines were now “zlamany” (Polish for”kaput”): “Thank you, USA.”

But, perhaps that is a bit of deflection. Poland has longstanding animus towards Nordstream. In other words, Poland has a clear motive for backing the destruction of the Russian pipeline. More than a year ago -April 2021 to be precise–this appeared in print:

Poland strongly opposes the development of Nord Stream 2, which will give Gazprom a subsea alternative route for supplying natural gas to Western European customers. At present, that gas has to pass through overland pipeline networks in Poland and Ukraine, bringing in valuable transit fees and providing both nations – which do not always have cordial relations with Russia – a measure of energy security.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/poland-denies-provocative-naval
-maneuvers-near-nord-stream-2


One month later, Poland pitched a Kielbasi fit:

* Poland has reacted angrily to President Joe Biden’s decision to waive US sanctions on Nord Stream II, warning the move could threaten energy security across Central and Eastern Europe.

* “The information is definitely not positive from the security point of view, as we know perfectly that Nord Stream II is not only a business project – it is mostly a geopolitical project,” said Piotr Muller, a spokesman for the Polish government. . . .

* Announced following a phone-call between Joe Biden and Chancellor Angela Merkel, the US decision to lift sanctions was welcomed in Berlin, with Foreign Minister Heiko Maas noting that “it is an expression of the fact that Germany is an important partner for the US, one that it can count on in the future.”

* The highly controversial pipeline has met with vigorous opposition across Central and Eastern Europe, including in Poland and Ukraine where officials say the project would be used by the Kremlin as a geopolitical weapon, de-facto increase Europe’s dependence on Russian gas and threaten energy security in the Eastern half of the continent.
https://kafkadesk.org/2021/05/21/poland-angered-by-us-president-bidens
-nord-stream-ii-decision
/

Makes you wonder if there was some wheeling and dealing was going on between Washington and Warsaw. Given Warsaw’s critical location and role in ensuring U.S. and NATO military supplies is delivered to Ukraine, the Poles have a bit of leverage to push the United States to take out the pipelines or to help Poland take out the pipelines. Poland’s message to the United States was simple–reverse course on Nordstream and rupture the pipelines or you can find another way to move your military supplies to Ukraine.

But wait, doesn’t this create some real problems for Germany? Sure. But Poland “don’t” (sic) care. There was this little incident called World War II and it seems that the Poles are still miffed at the Germans. If revenge is a dish best served cold, then this sucker is a frozen dinner:

* Poland’s top politician said Thursday that the government will seek equivalent of some $1.3 trillion in reparations from Germany for the Nazis’ World War II invasion and occupation of his country.

* Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the Law and Justice party, announced the huge claim at the release of a long-awaited report on the cost to the country of years of Nazi German occupation as it marks 83 years since the start of World War II. . . .

* Germany’s Foreign Ministry said Thursday the government’s position remains “unchanged” in that “the question of reparations is concluded.”
https://apnews.com/article/poland-germany-world-war-ii-warsaw-49b0cf77
745a7b1cabfaa884c3bf0035


With this new supply of Polish controlled natural gas, Germany is in a tough spot. Buy from Poland or buy from the United States. Either way, the Germans pay a premium while the United States and Poland make some bank.


https://sonar21.com/what-a-coincidence/

Ah.
Real World history comes home to roost. 80 years of Germans denying they did anything wrong - TWICE - and teaching their children that WWII never happened - Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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