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Suez Canal is Blocked !! Massive cargo ship turns sideways, blocks Egypt’s Suez Canal?

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Wednesday, March 24, 2021 3:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is this a terrorist plot?

2 days to clear the jam?

Cannot they add more water to the canal? Isn't this what the locks do? Add more water?

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Thursday, March 25, 2021 3:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I don't get something. All of the images show the ship Evergreen. But the text always says it is the Ever Given.

What's up?

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Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:17 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Evergreen is the global shipping company that owns the ship. Have you never seen Evergreen shipping containers? They're everywhere on trains and trucks.

Ever Given is the name of that specific ship.

Oh, despite the very Anglo-sounding name, Evergreen is Taiwanese.


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Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:30 PM

REAVERFAN


Go to 5:20





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Friday, March 26, 2021 2:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Evergreen is the global shipping company that owns the ship. Have you never seen Evergreen shipping containers? They're everywhere on trains and trucks.

Ever Given is the name of that specific ship.

Oh, despite the very Anglo-sounding name, Evergreen is Taiwanese.

Thanks for the clarification.

I've never seen Evergreen containers. I'm not in Taiwan, nor Moscow like you. :P

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Friday, March 26, 2021 4:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Living in Los Angeles as I do, I live in the same county as the of Ports Los Angeles and of Long Beach. And right next door to Los Angeles County, San Bernardino County is chock full of warehouses, and distribution and 'fulfillment' centers. I guess all that cheap near-desert expanse had to be good for something. So, yeah, the trains and freeways are chock-full of shipping containers going from the ports to the warehouses. But not at all going from industries to the ports. Shipping containers making those one-way trips from China to here are SO cheap and plentiful, people are trying to use them in construction, to build basements and homes.



Moscow has ports?



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Friday, March 26, 2021 5:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


I remember when this site used to have people who could read a lot of languages in Asia

That old Taiwan guy that used to run a company, he died recently I wonder way back in the day was he fighting back, was he on the side that resisted the Japanese during WW2... or this old Taiwan man, was he working with the Imperial invaders of Taiwan? Seirai Temple Incident and a long peroid between 1895 and 1945 and this Asia Dracula looking dude in military uniform called Goto Shinpei

Which company is the Big Boss company

https://twitter.com/SvetlanaModeva/status/963387808965709824

https://twitter.com/ekomeri_adrian/status/714640930846822400

https://twitter.com/srfnews/status/1375054870798032902

This Nikkei article is about the same shipper company
it mentions an investment in new tech would would help the ship outperform other major shipbuilding companies and says they will be working with Mitsu-bishi
...an old company which comes from a combined firm of two older family names in Japan... Mitsubishi Corp came from two old families linked to Shogunate people, an old bloodline from Edo period the Meiji Restoration old era family people. Mitsubishi is a well known global brand they made planes during WW2 today they make Cars, they do Chemicals, Electronics, Heavy Industries they built a private university in Tokyo, they own Libraries, they own Banks, they own Museums, they run overseas makers of Automobiles parts and car plants in Europe and N.America, they probably own most of the politicians in Japan....the shipping company and these big old Japan Corps seem close. There might be also a big company near a castle in Ozu-shi or Ozu city.

http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASDD280JX_Y2A520C1TJ2000/

Looking at media I'm led to believe the ship company is from the Japan island of Shikoku, the island in Japanese literally "four provinces". Where's the ship from? the port is on the smaller of the Japan islands and faces the city of Hiroshima on the Japanese mainland, 'Imabari' is the city

The wiki article says since Masao Higaki became the representative in 1959, the 'Hinoki' family has been the owner company, Toshiyuki Higaki and Kazuyuki Higaki are names mentioned ...they are probably old Zaibatsu and Daimyo old elite people. Old Asia much like Old Europe and America had old money people, old Money families, old Mafias, old Italians old Jewish Bankers, old elite socialist bourgeoisie, old Royal British and French Royalty ...the Japanese themselves have their own old elite, these old Japan family have their own old family people that link to old Warlords and Weapons makers and Landlord, and Samurai, the older family of Japan have hidden money going back going back hundreds of years.
The shipping company could be Japan's biggest and it links to just about every construction company, every merchant, every electronic manufacturer, every other politician every other University and every other Sales company in Japan.
There was a big shipping theme park project in a place called Marugame, Kagawa and some weird donald-duck mickey-mouse style park called Reoma World
Media reports The dudes name that fucked up is Shoei Kisen?,


Kisen is the guys name? the word Ki literally means energy or air
but 'Kisen' ki-sen also means steamer or Steam-Boat ...is the family name the same as 'Steam Boat'?
...or Shoei Kisen Kaisha might be a smaller sub company leasing subsidiary connected to a larger company?

Names? when reading Japanese anything called maru isnt really a name ? you would typically ignore because Maru is just a ship-naming convention for a 'Craft' a round boat or a 'Vessel'...Some of these ships seem to change flags and names constantly one day its Liberia, Japan, Egypt, Taiwan, Spain, Fiji, Jamaica, Marshall islands, Cayman Islands, Panama ...new port, new country, new name new flag....forget about the old problems we got a new name now.

The current ship company underneath the larger Corp might be operated by Taiwanese container transportation and Taiwan shipping company
this company headquartered in Luzhu District, Taoyuan City, Taiwan

The Germans might also link by some management group
this is not its first accient

They face claims totaling millions upon millions of Dollars

They are the third biggest shipper on this planet

There are rumors the Japanese owner of a container ship bowed cried said a few sorrys and bowed again some more and it was a woman driver but this is just twitter gossip. These guys will usually fix the mess they make but when the Japanese screw up big and in public its sometimes followed by them getting suicided, perhaps expect the dude to jump from a building or seppuku harakiri and the guy kamikaze's himself in the next few weeks.

Part of me thinks I do not believe a guy called Shoei Kisen exists, it might be the name of a smaller firm / company under a larger company.
There is however some dude living near Hiroshima from the Japanese island of Shikoku who did fuck up
I do not yet know who he is

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Friday, March 26, 2021 6:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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The wiki article says since Masao Higaki became the representative in 1959, the 'Hinoki' family has been the owner company ...
Of Evergreen? This wiki article says it's Taiwanese. I'd appreciate it if you could provide a link, and THANKS! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Group
Quote:

The shipping company could be Japan's biggest and it links to just about every construction company, every merchant, every electronic manufacturer, every other politician every other University and every other Sales company in Japan.

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Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:04 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Of Evergreen?



At one time a long long time ago one old Taiwan man was a young man and he used to live in a time when the Japanese Axis and Empire invaded the Taiwanese land
This old man in his younger days did he work for the side that resisted or did he work with bad guys? Did he work on the side who fought against an Empire or did he work with the invaders... this time is long ago during a Great War.
Why is this Important? because this old man only died recently, the real boss might have always been part of an older Tokyo Empire.

Who knows what fun they were up to....doing a paint job on the side and changing the name from Ever Given to Ever Green, then switch papers and change of flag
What I read is the ship is called Ever Given and it was one of many ships in the 'Evergreen' fleet

Evergreen Marine is Taiwanese cargo
There is a Germany link through some manager ship company, this is not the first time the ship has crashed into something.
It hit a Ferry boat https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2019/25161/gentle-touch-giant-m
ega-container-ship-brushed-fer
/ ,

The Blankenese jetty was loudly smashed. The freighter "Ever Given" collided with the "Finkenwerder", a total write off smashed up damage, totally wrecked reported. There is a suggestion that Bad Wind caused the crash – and only chance prevented a major accident.
https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-der-katastr
ophe-vorbei-32016794


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German
Ein riesiges Containerschiff, ein winziger Anleger und dazwischen eine kleine Hadag-Fähre: Am Sonnabendvormittag hat es am Anleger Blankenese laut geknallt. Der Frachter
„ EVER GIVEN “
kollidierte mit der „Finkenwerder“, die jetzt ein Totalschaden ist (MOPO berichtete). Viel deutet mittlerweile darauf hin, dass der starke Wind den Crash verursacht hat – und nur der Zufall ein größeres Unglück verhindert hat.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blankenese_Low_Lighthouse
Hamburg district of Blankenese Germany

The big guy on top is a Japanese name but I mean you follow the links and these guys probably tie into everything the Euro elite, the Philippines elites, the Japan elite, Mi6, the KGB, Major Retail stores, Major Car, Heavy Machinery and Motor companies, the French military, the Italian mafia, the Korea mafia you name it some other company ties into them some other freaks get into bed with them...its a company, that gets set up and connected to other companies, they send stuff around the globe, they get things done and shipped
Also other names like an Ever Gentle, Ever Govern, an Ever Gleamy, Ever Greetings an Ever Genius. You also have the Ever Goods, Ever Gaining, and the 'Ever Giant' and Ever Golden. All of these ships may have been built and delivered first in Japan during the years 2018-2019. I'm not sure if these are all the same company under the larger Japanese company. There are lots of sites that track tehse ships. If you put any ship into Marine 24 hr traffic website you can track where a ship is going and maybe look at its history.
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:5604378/mmsi
:370121000/imo:9786815/vessel:EVER_GENIUS
, https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/EVER-GREET-IMO-9832729-MMSI-37182
9000

The bigger shipper should be known, but the smaller companies that open and close and go bust and open up again?

I would say you're looking at a conglomerate of shipping companies, a multi-industry company the big mix a combination of multiple business entities but at the Top there will be one Giant Corp, I think that's the shipping place in Japan. In 2006, the main political party of Taiwan Kuomintang sold its former headquarters to Evergreen Group for $2.3 billion New Taiwan dollars (96 million United States dollars). In 2010, Evergreen Group announced that it would buy from Samsung Heavy Industries, a South Korea link. EverGreen also links with UNI Air one the main Airlines under the Taiwan government. The main Taiwan dude the Chairman of the Evergreen Group, was born in Taiwan at the age 18, went to work in the Taipei office of a Japanese shipping line that's how your EverGreen brand is born.
The guy on top of EverGreen Chang was born in Su'ao, while Taiwan was under Japanese rule, he served and woreked for Japan while Taiwan was getting invaded and attacked by Imperial Japan and the Axis in WW2? Chang Yung-fa he seems like a big name in Taiwan but look at the route and history, subservient to a bigger master perhaps? The Taiwan leader and founder only died recently back in 2016....who was this dude? a King a Shipper President or nothing more than a little servant to some Japanese old samurai family or some Japan Banker Tokyo Emperor Overlord?

This Taiwan dude who worked under a Japan company during the Japanese occupation has also those funny robes and medals too, seems to have gone to a lot of those parties got some Masonic badge or pin, Officer of the Legion of Honor, Vatican, House of Jewish Arabia Babylon and France, he was given some House of Orange Freemason Knighthood Commander in the Order of Orange-Nassau, Order of the Rising Sun, Gold and Silver Star from the Japanese government, Order of Masonic Germanic Occult Merits, The Netherlands the Queen of England Knighted him Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/apr/24/uk.foreignpolicy ,
https://focustaiwan.tw/news/201204290016 , http://container-mag.com/2008/06/10/evergreen-s-chang-honoured-by-belg
ium
/


The smaller companies under a bigger Corp?

These types of guys probably change papers and flags and names as they change routes that are East Asia to Europe to Asia to North America, Central America and the Caribbean
The ever Green group seems to link to Luzhu District in Taiwan.
There's also maybe an 'Ever Going' stuck behind the other ship not going anywhere and joining the Gridlock traffic jam congestion blocking up the Suez

One other option a 15,000 + -mile maybe 24,500 km or 16,000 mile detour around the tip of Africa to reach their final destinations...and much more risky stormy seas.


Corona slows down the world economy now you get everything stuck by some ship...
Billions of dollars worth of cargo stuck here, with over 100 ships unable to complete their routes.

The Japanese ship group also links to a large company Japan Marine United Corporation, JapanMarineUnited Kabushiki-kaisha

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is this a terrorist plot?




No I do not believe so
but now all ships seem to be facing a situation where they are forced to go a longer more dangerous route

This longer route leaves them more vulnerable to modern day Pirates, Hijackings and Terrorism

The Gulf of Guinea, the seas just off the coast in West Africa are dangerous with hundreds of attacks happening on ships, these are usually local militia dudes hijacking with speedboats and AK-47s, one ship was even attacked docked while at an anchorage in Lagos city Harbor, Nigeria Africa. The US Mexico land and sea border is a know pirate area, the Rio Grande southwestern United States and northern Mexico a possible turf war between rival drug cartels. Facing Pirates is not the end of the world for an economy. Once you get a Navy or some big Naval ships to go into the region and 'kick ass' the pirates will usually get killed or go away and find other things to steal or attack.
Strait of Malacca near Indonesia is also know as a shitty un-safe route with more regular hijackings.

This was an accident a freak event or stupidity but not terrorism

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

a link



Editor in Chief of Nikkei Asia Okumura
https://twitter.com/ShigesaburoO/status/1374848755820687361
'Shoei Kisen'


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Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Moscow has ports?







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Monday, March 29, 2021 2:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Moscow has ports?

Hold on, lemme check....

Yep, they are still there, from what I can see.

The Port of Moscow.
The River Station.
The South River Terminal.

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Wednesday, March 31, 2021 3:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like the ship was dislodged 2 days ago, on the 29th.

Stuck for 7 days.

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Monday, April 12, 2021 3:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Has anybody heard of the delivery delay of computer chips?

Apparently there is a 60 week delay for delivery of chips, needed for new routers, and for Ford vehicles, and iPads.

There is long delay for silicon wafers, which are needed to make the chips.
Chip factories cost about $10 Billion to built, and take 2 years. 4 are known to be building now, but those results are 2 years away. At least 2 of those plants are being built in Arizona.


So now, at least one container on the Evergiven was full of Routers. And Egypt has claimed the container as salvage, after dislodging the ship. So unknown amount of delay for that.


Some kind of memory chip, sounds like "dacks" had a factory fire in October in China. And another auto chip plant had a fire last year in Tokyo.


Apparently all this causes great delays in Wireless communications, 5G, etc.

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Saturday, April 24, 2021 5:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


A British group I believe has been running insurance


The Ever Given still 'stranded' in Suez waters amid legal fracas
https://www.dw.com/en/ever-given-still-stranded-in-suez-waters-amid-le
gal-fracas/a-57318956


Ever Given crew fear joining ranks of seafarers stranded on ships for years
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/19/ever-given-crew-fe
ar-joining-ranks-of-seafarers-stranded-on-ships-for-years


Egypt continues to impound the ship while claiming $916 million from its owners?

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Has anybody heard of the delivery delay of computer chips?

Apparently there is a 60 week delay for delivery of chips, needed for new routers, and for Ford vehicles, and iPads.



Not sure but the Laws at Sea are still a little Pirate-ish, plus perhaps they owe Egypt and the Suez authority a lot of money...by Sea Law...I think which ever group rescued the ship can also claim cargo as 'booty'

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Monday, May 3, 2021 7:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I should probably start a new thread on this IC Chip shortage, it seems like it will last awhile.

Copied from another thread:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Samsung's Austin fab was offline for more than a month after it was shut down due to power outages during the freeze.

About 71,000 wafers were affected by production disruptions, said Han Jinman, executive vice-president of Samsung’s memory chip business. He estimated the wafer loss is equivalent to $268 million to $357 million.

Semiconductor fabs are typically operational 24 hours a day for years on end. Each batch of wafers — a thin slice of semiconductor used for the fabrication of integrated circuits — can take 45 to 60 days to make, so a shutdown of any length can mean a loss of weeks of work. Restoring a fab is also a complicated process, and even in the best of circumstances can take a week.

The Samsung fab was one of a number of Austin's largest industrial power users that was ordered by the city to idle or shut down operations the week of Feb.15, as millions of Texas homes and businesses lost electricity and the state's power grid came close to a total shutdown.

NXP Semiconductors was also among the facilities that were shut down in February, as its two Austin fabrication facilities were offline for nearly a month. In March, the company estimated the shutdown would result in a $100 million loss in revenue and a month of wafer production.

The product loss and fab shutdown also came as Samsung considers Austin for a significant expansion.

In early February, officials confirmed the region is one of several locations being considered for a more than $17 billion state-of-the-art chip plant. The company is also considering locations including New York and Arizona.

It remains to be seen if the freeze could have an effect on Austin's chances of winning the facility. Company officials declined to comment on whether Central Texas is still under consideration, or when the company might make a decision.

More at https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2021/04/30/austin-fab-shutdow
n-during-texas-freeze-cost-samsung-millions/4891405001
/


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Sunday, July 23, 2023 7:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Mitsubishi Shipbuilding received orders from Imabari Shipbuilding

https://www.marinelink.com/news/mitsubishi-inks-deal-supply-lng-fgss-5
06532




The US wanted to use hundreds of nukes to create an alternative to the Suez Canal

https://news.yahoo.com/us-wanted-hundreds-nukes-create-150610046.html

Since its construction in the late 1800s, it’s been a vital strategic waterway



Florida isn’t going to be hit by a massive sandstorm seen in footage from the Suez Canal

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-sandstorm-florida-new-york-suez-
canal-412301511349

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