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The limits of free speech

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You can say that whites are the superior race.
Or that women are better than men,
You can say that Jews control the world.
Or that you want to see the world genocided "down to the last hundred".
You can claim the earth is flat.
Or that last summer's riots were "mostly peaceful".
You can spin endless conspiracy theories (for example, Russian collusion) or endless conspiracy facts.

You can claim any fool thing .... or wise thing... that you want. It's protected free speech. And the answer to stupid speech is rebuttal, not censorship or defamation.

There are some thing you CAN'T do:

You can't slag someone's reputation by making false claims about them, incite IMMINENT violence, defraud people, distribute child pornography, threaten people, violate copyright laws, or plan illegal behavior. Advertising is also not protected free speech.

I know that free speech disturbs a bunch of libtards here, and that they want to get rid of it right away, but free speech clause protects them, too, when they post hate speech or idiocies.


It doesn't protect defamation, tho. Might want to keep that in mind.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:53 AM

THG


No, bullshit offends Sig. Your bullshit offends.

T



Lead House impeachment manager Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) used the words of former President Donald Trump to make the case that Trump broke the duty of his office. Raskin went on to argue why Trump's words and actions leading up to the January 6 insurrection on the US capitol did not enjoy 1st amendment protections.





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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So? Who cares, Ted?

For every person you post that argues your side on this issue, I'll find another one who argues against it.

Free speech is free speech. Period.

Sorry not sorry that's an inconvenience to you and your NeoCon buddies.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

THUGR: No, bullshit offends Sig. Your bullshit offends.
Are you offended by the Constitution? Because, son, I'm just telling you what the Constitution says.

The Constitution protects "offensive" speech - even yours.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Raskin is a deranged nut job and a bold face liar.


Sorry his son died recently, maybe he should have taken some time to grieve. ( I mean, if he really love him, that is. )

It's been categorically proven that CNN and NBC paid a Leftist for the staged insurrection.



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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I remember when YEARS ago we had the same 'free speech' discussion here on fff, except there were a lot more participants back then, and it was directed at the right.

Iirc it was a discussion outlining the limits of free speech. The original opening argument was 'you can't yell 'fire!' in a crowded theater', and the conclusion was, indeed, while speech is Constitutionally mostly free, there are in fact some legal limits.

Now it seems the TDSers from the democratic* side need lessons both in 'free speech' limits (like libel) AS WELL AS basic lessons in Constitutionally protected free speech freedoms. Considering all the canned BS they post and support, and all the facts they want to disappear, and all the opinions they want to silence, their motto seems to be "hey! hey! hey! pro-pa-gan-da, all the way!"

So who are the overlord wannabes here?

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I remember when YEARS ago we had the same 'free speech' discussion here on fff, except there were a lot more participants back then, and it was directed at the right.



That's a point I've tried to make many times, but it falls completely on deaf ears here.

If you go back to my GWB period posts, you couldn't be blamed for thinking that I was a Democrat.

I didn't change.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



So, speaking of 'free' speech (free as in freedom, not beer):

Facebook won't let users in Australia share news
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/17/media/facebook-australia-news-ban/i
ndex.html



That may be a good thing. I hope it weans people off of Facebook and they broaden their 'sources'.


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Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:26 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


I didn't change.




How many times you gonna post that to try to prove it to yourself??
No one cares what you claim you are or aren't, Narcissus.

We know you are a sick lazy turd in any party, place, or time.

Even Kiki and Sigs knows it, but they just pretend not to.




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Thursday, February 18, 2021 1:01 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Are you a republican troll? Since you claim 100% of all internet trolls are republican ...

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Are you a republican troll? Since you claim 100% of all internet trolls are republican ...




It sure is.

It also disappeared for a few days after I embarrassed it for disrespecting and insulting Jews every time it throws around the word Nazi to describe humans who's thought patterns don't match it's poorly programmed AI algorithms.


And would you look at that...

No N word in this thread, and it didn't use the N word to describe Limbaugh while it celebrated his death like the Marcosbot did.

Maybe it updated its OS between the 15th and today?

Makes little difference though. The hardware is dated and failing and isn't worth being salvaged. And hate will always be the core of its programming.


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Thursday, February 18, 2021 10:13 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:



It sure is.

It also disappeared for a few days after I embarrassed it




I've been busy HAVING A LIFE with everyone off work. I know you don't know what that is, but I promise it did NOT involve thinking about YOU or any of your mindless drivel.

Narcissist




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Thursday, February 18, 2021 10:16 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Are you a republican troll? Since you claim 100% of all internet trolls are republican ...



It was a joke, you idiot

Apparently, fascists don't get those.





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Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:



It sure is.

It also disappeared for a few days after I embarrassed it




I've been busy HAVING A LIFE with everyone off work. I know you don't know what that is, but I promise it did NOT involve thinking about YOU or any of your mindless drivel.

Narcissist




You ALWAYS think about me dude. 90% of your posting spree last night was to me and most of it was stuff not even directed to you.

Thank you for feeding my Narcissism.

You're Parter Unit has nothing to worry about though.

Not if you were the last sex-bot on earth, Nilbot.




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Friday, February 19, 2021 3:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Are you a republican troll? Since you claim 100% of all internet trolls are republican ...

It sure is.

It also disappeared for a few days after I embarrassed it for disrespecting and insulting Jews every time it throws around the word Nazi to describe humans who's thought patterns don't match it's poorly programmed AI algorithms.


And would you look at that...

No N word in this thread, and it didn't use the N word to describe Limbaugh while it celebrated his death like the Marcosbot did.

Maybe it updated its OS between the 15th and today?

Makes little difference though. The hardware is dated and failing and isn't worth being salvaged. And hate will always be the core of its programming.

This is a fair good example of what happens when you only use your brain as a dildo, since she keeps her head permanently parked up her bung.

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Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:46 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


I dont think there is much free speech any more, the limits of it are just hanging on, trying to hide under protection of the constitution

Back in the day it took a level of the intelligent to turn on your machine, put in the software, get on your computer, it took some kind of brain, not a genius but also not an idiot link to some phone company web server or network and get into some internet site.
Ever since the smart phones any dumb mob of idiots can get on the interweb and be easily manipulated, the anarchists all have pages, the zealot mohammedans all have pages, the ban some for offensive speech yet they will not close the social media accounts of the islamists?
Added on top of all this are the old nasty Spooky corrupt military Darpanet, corrupted military machine type guys with Mi6, Mossad, KGB, CIA links, the types that turned a blind eye to abuse and human trafficking all those years, the spooky clown agency types that will jump into bed with smugglers and drug dealers and abusers, the type that only want to see the clown agency grow fatter and bigger for whatever reason


The West is not so free anymore. Many countries would have you arrested for saying offensive stuff just look to the orwellian stuff happening in Canada, Germany, France, Britain or the mafia gangster corruption against people who speak out in Mexico.


That trucker radio guy 'Pirate News' he was on here and what he said shows the limit of free speech, sure he was probably crazy but its that the point in America. The point in that Bill of Rights that Constitution is that you could have crazy preacher with a sign standing in a street corner screaming 'the end is nigh' you have the right to hear offensive stuff and the right to say something that others might consider offensive or rude.

Some hated PirateNews, People here even screamed for him to be tracked down, thrown into some mental institution or simply 'arrested'
Maybe he was a dumb ass, maybe he deserved a parking fine or a ticket or maybe His broadcasts even went on Trial for being too 'offensive'

I'm not saying I agreed with Pirate news but with that whole Maxwell and Epstein pedophile island thing, some of what Pirate news said all those years back turned out to be true, and he wasnt like some other radio guys selling mugs and vitamin pills and not giving us names, Pirate news was screaming out Jeffrey Edward Epstein's name many times, telling us about kids in Hollywood, a network trying to blackmail business and political elites at weird ritual parties, Pirate News was shouting it out and doing and tell us all about it at least 10 years ago, the mansion in NewYork, the arts camp with kids, the island trafficking Pirate news and other conspiracy bloggers told it all.


Of course the corporate media also had the Epstein story, the had the very same facts, with the Prince and Maxwell and a whole lot of other elites but none of them said it.
Will the machien turn out to be good or bad?
The machine blocked, deleted and censored a President of the United States that's how much power they have now.
With twitter and facebooks and the big corporate media, it has become easier for a mob to sent the horde of zombies out and harass others for 'wrong think'

It's not about left vs right
That's the clown show to bamboozle, a stage show to keep others distracted

the dystopian is closer than you think

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