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Death of a good man

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 3:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Today I learned that a former colleague of mine passed away from cancer at a relatively young age.

When he joined the agency, he was the "golden boy"- former HS football player, ChemE from UCLA, loved to party, had a great voice. Nice dad, faithful husband, adept Source Testing professional. But he was serious about our mission: to clean up the air and protect people from sickness, to save lives.

He was a great problem-solver, coming up with clever ways to measure emissions from sources that had never been measured before, and it was the most interesting part of my job to work with him on figuring out how to set up the equipment, recover the sample, and get these analyses right, so they could stand up in court.

But what really impressed me was his willingness to openly engage the bureaucracy and our crazy Director to get things done. The clearest example I can give is a source within our jurisdiction a lead battery recycler, that we long suspected was sprinkling the the neigborhood with lead. But every time our samplers got a "hit" plant management always had an excuse... a car drove thru the parking lot and kicked up dust. Or the sampler was in the wrong place. We danced around like that for two years. Finally, this good man had had enough of trying to convince the chain of command that the facility needed a serious inspection and testing: he went instead toour Legal Department and got a warrant. And took no end of rations of shit for that.

But the tests showed that the facility was poisoning the entire neighborhood and rather than clean up and comply with pollution abatement requirements, the facility was shuttered and became a Superfund site. I have driven past that site several times: This four-story large plant remains wrapped in Tyvek like some malign Xmas gift, a Chernobyl of lead instead of uranium.

I wonder if exposure to all of those toxins for all of those tests led to his cancer.

In his final email to his friends and colleagues, he stressed how proud he was of the work they all had done.

A good man pssed away, but he made a difference. Not by bitching and wailing online, not by making beaucoups buck$, or shilling for TPTB, but by acting with integrity and purpose. He improved the lives of every air-breather in the LA area, and we will be the poorer for his loss.


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Sunday, November 29, 2020 9:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Jeez. Sorry to hear that.



What is a Superfund site?

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 11:50 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


A battery recycling plant in southeast Los Angeles County, California, United States, emitted toxic metal dust over decades that contaminated as many as 10,000 homes in half a dozen working-class, Latino communities near the plant. Exide Technologies, owner of the lead-acid battery smelter located in Vernon, agreed in 2015 to close the facility during the massive cleanup of the contaminated soil, which will take years and cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exide_lead_contamination

On the map:
https://goo.gl/maps/96enJMKVwMRhs9wk8

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:11 PM

BRENDA


Sorry to hear about your loss SIG.

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 3:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



The world is a poorer place without him.

Rest in peace.

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 4:02 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The world is a poorer place without him.

Rest in peace.

Signym forgot to give "him" a name. Until now I never read an obituary or eulogy that didn't include the deceased's name. It was easy enough to find the lead battery reclamation site mentioned in the eulogy, but not easy to find "his" name. "He improved the lives of every air-breather in the LA area, and we will be the poorer for his loss," wrote Signym. Who was "he"?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 29, 2020 4:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Signym forgot to give "him" a name. ... Who was "he"?

His family knows. His friends know. His co-workers know. That's good enough.


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Sunday, November 29, 2020 8:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The world is a poorer place without him.

Rest in peace.

Signym forgot to give "him" a name. Until now I never read an obituary or eulogy that didn't include the deceased's name. It was easy enough to find the lead battery reclamation site mentioned in the eulogy, but not easy to find "his" name. "He improved the lives of every air-breather in the LA area, and we will be the poorer for his loss," wrote Signym. Who was "he"?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




That's an odd time to worry about who "he" was.

4 years of swallowing everything and never once asked who "sources said" were when they said it about Trump.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, November 30, 2020 8:25 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Signym forgot to give "him" a name. ... Who was "he"?

His family knows. His friends know. His co-workers know. That's good enough.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's an odd time to worry about who "he" was.

4 years of swallowing everything and never once asked who "sources said" were when they said it about Trump.

Since when did it become your policy to anonymize the dead? To make eulogies without names? The man is known to God so who else need know the name on the headstone? The unknown civil servant has passed away and none but family shall be made aware of his name . . . So now I know a little more about why all these years of Trump-talk were full of silliness from Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix; you are know-nothings holding back your information and your understanding for mysterious reasons that make no sense. You did not want to know. Prove me wrong in this one tiny thing about you three. Write the praiseworthy man's name who died.

Know-Nothing party - www.britannica.com/topic/Know-Nothing-party

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 30, 2020 9:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL

As if I have anything to prove to you, buddy.




And besides... It ain't like I knew the dude.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, November 30, 2020 9:25 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Today I learned that a former colleague of mine passed away from cancer at a relatively young age.

When he joined the agency, he was the "golden boy"- former HS football player, ChemE from UCLA, loved to party, had a great voice. Nice dad, faithful husband, adept Source Testing professional. But he was serious about our mission: to clean up the air and protect people from sickness, to save lives.

He was a great problem-solver, coming up with clever ways to measure emissions from sources that had never been measured before, and it was the most interesting part of my job to work with him on figuring out how to set up the equipment, recover the sample, and get these analyses right, so they could stand up in court.

But what really impressed me was his willingness to openly engage the bureaucracy and our crazy Director to get things done. The clearest example I can give is a source within our jurisdiction a lead battery recycler, that we long suspected was sprinkling the the neigborhood with lead. But every time our samplers got a "hit" plant management always had an excuse... a car drove thru the parking lot and kicked up dust. Or the sampler was in the wrong place. We danced around like that for two years. Finally, this good man had had enough of trying to convince the chain of command that the facility needed a serious inspection and testing: he went instead toour Legal Department and got a warrant. And took no end of rations of shit for that.

But the tests showed that the facility was poisoning the entire neighborhood and rather than clean up and comply with pollution abatement requirements, the facility was shuttered and became a Superfund site. I have driven past that site several times: This four-story large plant remains wrapped in Tyvek like some malign Xmas gift, a Chernobyl of lead instead of uranium.

I wonder if exposure to all of those toxins for all of those tests led to his cancer.

In his final email to his friends and colleagues, he stressed how proud he was of the work they all had done.

A good man pssed away, but he made a difference. Not by bitching and wailing online, not by making beaucoups buck$, or shilling for TPTB, but by acting with integrity and purpose. He improved the lives of every air-breather in the LA area, and we will be the poorer for his loss.




Odd that your highly respected colleague sounds like someone who would hate Trump with a passion.

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Monday, November 30, 2020 1:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Odd that your highly respected colleague sounds like someone who would hate Trump with a passion.

I don't know where he stood on politics in general but we both believed in the same mission, which was to protect the environment.

Like SIX said it's possible to agree with Trump on some things (3, in my case, to be exact) and disagree on other things.

If you think things thru, you will understand why.

I dealt with everything from mom and pop drycleaners to huge oil refineries, and I am sensitive to the pressures that they operate under. One of the reasons I feel so strongly about national political and economic sovereignty is because I could see the effect that environmentally-irresponsible China was having on our manufacurers who were caught between American/state/local regulations and cheap goods from abroad. When it is cheaper for a chrome plater to send parts abroad for plating and ship them back rather than to comply with regulations, you know you have a problem.

And 95% of the time when I had to order a specialty chemical, it came from China. (If not China, Germany)

We also purchased instruments some of which were manufactured in China and some manufactured in the USA (Same company). The ones made in China (S/n beginning CN) always came with some sort of defect that we spent (at times) weeks isolating and fixing.


NOT a big fan of China which competes on price, not quality or environmental responsibilty. Not a big fan of "free" trade, which is 100% antithetical to environmental, labor, and economy protection.


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, November 30, 2020 2:46 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


A good tribute.


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