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Friday, July 31, 2020 12:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump polling aggregate back up to 43% on RCP today.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html


Despite the virus, the riots and all of the gnashing of teeth, the lowest he had bottomed out at was 41.2%, which is just barely below what it was during the fake impeachment in October, and 4.1% higher than his low in December of 2017.



National average and Top Battlegrounds also showing a rebound for Trump and a fall for Biden this week.

Did Uncle Joey say something stupid again and I missed it?

Or have the Democrats blown their load early like they always do?

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Friday, July 31, 2020 1:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Friday, July 31, 2020 1:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh, and Democrats have obviously lost all support from the police unions nationwide.

Whoopsie.


You'd better hope that Mika and Joe are right that there is no silent majority.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 31, 2020 1:42 PM

THG


Jacks poll. The truth is in the last number aisle. That's the one that shows the direction Trumps approval it going.


Date Approve
RCP Average 7/12 - 7/30 -11.6

Rasmussen 7/28 - 7/30 +2

Reuters 7/27 - 7/28 -18

YouGov 7/26 - 7/28 -9

IBD/TIPP 7/25 - 7/28 -11

The Hill 7/24 - 7/26 -12

CNBC 7/24 - 7/26 -12

Politico 7/24 - 7/26 -17

Harris 7/21 - 7/23 -12

FOX News 7/12 - 7/15 -9

ABC/WP 7/12 - 7/15 -18


T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 1:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Jacks poll. The truth is in the last number aisle. That's the one that shows the direction Trumps approval it going.


Date Approve
RCP Average 7/12 - 7/30 -11.6

Rasmussen 7/28 - 7/30 +2

Reuters 7/27 - 7/28 -18

YouGov 7/26 - 7/28 -9

IBD/TIPP 7/25 - 7/28 -11

The Hill 7/24 - 7/26 -12

CNBC 7/24 - 7/26 -12

Politico 7/24 - 7/26 -17

Harris 7/21 - 7/23 -12

FOX News 7/12 - 7/15 -9

ABC/WP 7/12 - 7/15 -18


T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.




Not "my" poll.

The RCP aggregate of polls, which I've always used.

If you ever only show one poll, which Ted consistently does, then you're retarded.




And what the fuck is a "number aisle"?

Seriously dude. Get your brain fixed.




And, no....

Quote:

That's the one that shows the direction Trumps approval it going.


That's the spread, super-genius.

It has nothing to do with the direction that Trump's approval is going. (obligatory apostrophe missing from "Trump's" in your reply, of course).

Since Trump's aggregate approval has gone up 2 points in recent days, the spread is less and the approval is going up.




We know you can't even read English, so how on earth could we expect you to understand how to read a table of data.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 31, 2020 1:55 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not "my" poll.

The RCP aggregate of polls, which I've always used.

If you ever only show one poll, which Ted consistently does, then you're retarded.

And what the fuck is a "number aisle"?

Seriously dude. Get your brain fixed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



It's the poll you posted in an attempt to show he was moving up. I posted the same poll showing the day of the poll and the fact that in all but one poll it shows Trumps approval going into the toilet.

And to think you started a thread to show that off.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 1:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not "my" poll.

The RCP aggregate of polls, which I've always used.

If you ever only show one poll, which Ted consistently does, then you're retarded.

And what the fuck is a "number aisle"?

Seriously dude. Get your brain fixed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



It's the poll you posted in an attempt to show he was moving up. I posted the same poll showing the day of the poll and the fact that in all but one poll it shows Trumps approval going into the toilet.

And to think you started a thread to show that off.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.




What the fuck dude. Read the rest of my post. I just explained it to your brainlet.


That's the spread, retard. The spread means the difference between Approval and Disapproval within the same poll.

It has nothing at all to do with trends.


And if you're actually suggesting that there is any way you can derive a trend by dates using different polls from different polling firms that came out on later dates, you're even more retarded than I thought you were.


The only way you can do that is by taking previous polls done by the same firms and comparing their data to the prior poll. And the only way that information is even valuable really is if they are a firm that regularly does polls. If they only do one or two polls per year, that isn't going to be very helpful with everything that is going on right now.



Can we attribute your lack of data table understanding to that "education" you got in college?



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Friday, July 31, 2020 2:24 PM

THG


Sure it does if you have been following the polls. You keep calling them fake news so you dismiss them. The truth is that this poll shows a difference in the past month and a half.

His poll numbers are dropping across the board. They are in no way going up. Yesterday the economy tanked big time. His polls are going to get even worse. My post pointed out all the - numbers in your poll.


Trump’s latest approval rating is still at a robust 49% Gallup poll May 22, 2020

https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonconstable/2020/05/22/despite-the-cov
id-19-economic-fallout-trumps-approval-ratings-remain-high/#12b2e0e8731a



T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 2:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You're wrong, about everything you just posted. I have math to back it up. You have feels.

And yes... the polls are bullshit and in no way reflect reality and the "hidden" Trump vote. You'll find that out the hard way in November. However, as I've said before, the aggregate of polls are useful for showing trends. Even when they are lying, knowing which way the lie is blowing is good information to have on hand.

All that being said... Here. I'll do what you were trying and FAILING HARD to do because you're retarded. You're not going to like the results:



TABLE A:
POLLS CURRENTLY IN THE AGGREGATE VS. PREVIOUS POLL BY FIRM

(Current polls in the aggregate are Highlighted in this link: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html
)

EMERSON:
CURRENT: 7/29 - 7/30 - SPREAD: -6
PREVIOUS: 6/2 - 6/3 - SPREAD: -7 / +1 APPROVAL

RASMUSSEN REPORTS:
CURRENT: 7/28 - 7/30 - SPREAD: +2
PREVIOUS: 7/12 - 7/14 - SPREAD: -2 / +4 APPROVAL

REUTERS/IPSOS:
CURRENT: 7/27 - 7/38 - SPREAD: -18
PREVIOUS: 7/15 - 7/21 - SPREAD: -18 / NO CHANGE

ECONOMIST/YOUGOV:
CURRENT: 7/26 - 7/28 - SPREAD: -9
PREVIOUS: 7/19 - 7/21 - SPREAD: -14 / +5 APPROVAL

IBD/TIPP:
CURRENT: 7/25 - 7/28 - SPREAD: -11
PREVIOUS: 6/27 - 6/30 - SPREAD: -17 / +6 APPROVAL

THE HILL/HARRISX:
CURRENT: 7/24 - 7/26 - SPREAD: -12
PREVIOUS: 7/7 - 7/10 - SPREAD: -10 / -2 APPROVAL

CNBC/CHANGE RESEARCH (D):
CURRENT: 7/24 - 7/26 - SPREAD: -12
PREVIOUS: 7/10 - 7/12 - SPREAD: -14 / +2 APPROVAL

POLITICO/MORNING CONSULT:
CURRENT: 7/24 - 7/26 - SPREAD: -17
PREVIOUS: 7/17 - 7/19 - SPREAD: -17 / NO CHANGE

HARVARD-HARRIS:
CURRENT: 7/21 - 7/23 - SPREAD: -12
PREVIOUS: 6/17 - 6/18 - SPREAD: -14 / +2 APPROVAL

FOX NEWS:
CURRENT: 7/12 - 7/15 - SPREAD: -9
PREVIOUS: 6/13 - 6/16 - SPREAD: -11 / +2 APPROVAL

ABC NEWS/WASH POST:
CURRENT: 7/12 - 7/15 - SPREAD: -18
PREVIOUS: 5/25 - 5/28 - SPREAD: -8 / -10 APPROVAL*

*Who know's what's going on at ABC? They had a month and a half between polls, which by far is the longest in between any of those currently counted in the aggregate. And when they did their poll back in the end of May it split from all of the other anti-Trump polling firms much further in favor of Trump at only -8 in the spread.

For comparison's sake, here's where the other polling firms were in their poll closest to ABC/WP's poll in dates, with a comparison to how different they are with their current poll in the aggregate):

TABLE B:
LATE MAY/EARLY JUNE POLLS BY FIRMS IN THE AGGREGATE DONE AROUND THE TIME OF ABC/WP'S PREVIOUS POLL IN THE LAST WEEK OF MAY

Emerson: 6/2 - 6/3 - SPREAD: -7 - CURRENT: -6 (+1 Approval)
Rasmussen Reports: 5/25 - 5/27 - SPREAD: -9 - CURRENT: +2 (+11 Approval)
Reuters/Ipsos: 5/20 - 5/2 - SPREAD: -17 - CURRENT: -18 (-1 Approval)
Economist/YouGov: 5/31 - 6/2 - SPREAD: -12 - CURRENT: -9 (+3 Approval)
IBD/TIPP: 5/31 - 6/3 - SPREAD: -10 - CURRENT: -11(-1 Approval)
The Hill/HarrisX: 6/1 - 6/4 - SPREAD: -12 - CURRENT: -12 (NO CHANGE)
CNBC/Change Research (D): 5/29 - 5/31 - SPREAD: -12 - CURRENT: -12 (NO CHANGE)
Politico/Morning Consult: 5/29 - 6/1 - SPREAD: -14 - CURRENT: -17 (-3 Approval)
Harvard-Harris: 6/17 - 6/18 - SPREAD: -14 - CURRENT: -12 (+2 Approval)
FOX News: 6/13 - 6/16 - SPREAD: -11 - CURRENT: -9 (+2 Approval)
ABC News/Wash Post: 5/25 - 5/28 - SPREAD: -8 - CURRENT: -18 (-10 Approval)

SIDE NOTE: These polls were all roughly from 2 months ago. This displays that despite your claim to the contrary, there has been VERY little movement in the polls for Trump over the last month and a half. In fact, if you add them all up since Late May/Early June, Trump has actually gone up a total of +3 in approval over these 10 firms since then, meaning a -.3 average to the gap since Late May/Early June among the 10 currently in the aggregate.

As you can see, from late May until now, ABC/WP went from being so favorable of Trump's approval rating to even give him a better spread than Rasmussen on 5/25, and just this week it stands as the most negative against Trump for the spread today showing even worse approval for Trump than Politico and tied with Reuters.

I believe somebody is smoking crack at ABC/WP. In any event, the last two polls done by ABC/WP were in no way reflective at all of their contemporaries and I suggest we throw them out not because they are an outlier but because of their very low frequency of very inconsistent polling results.

Also, because of the infrequency of the ABC/WP poll, it hasn't even been in the polling aggregate for well over a month until they came out of nowhere with this heavily anti-Trump outlier poll. (Which actually makes the case for Trump's approval improving and the spread gap getting thinner despite this extra bad-news poll out of nowhere his numbers are still improving.)


But, because I'm fair, I will present the data both with and without ABC/WP's polling in the mix.

***SPOILER ALERT: It's good news either way for Trump.

TABLE C:
CHANGE IN SPREAD FROM PREVIOUS POLL BY FIRM IN THE AGGREGATE
(REFERENCING TABLE A RESULTS)

EMERSON: +1 APPROVAL
RASMUSSEN REPORTS: +4 APPROVAL
REUTERS/ISPOS: NO CHANGE
ECONOMIST/YOUGOV: +5 APPROVAL
IBD/TIPP: +6 APPROVAL
THE HILL/HARRISX: -2 APPROVAL
CNBC/CHANGE RESEARCH (D): +2 APPROVAL
POLITICO/MORNING CONSULT: NO CHANGE
HARVARD-HARRIS: +2 APPROVAL
FOX NEWS: +2 APPROVAL
ABC NEWS/WASH POST: -10 APPROVAL*


AGGREGATED DIFFERENCE IN SPREAD BY POLLING FIRM (WITH ABC NEWS/WASH POST):
1 + 4 + 5 + 6 - 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 - 10 = +10

Divided by all 11 polling firms in the aggregate...

-.91 average in the spread




AGGREGATED DIFFERENCE IN SPREAD BY POLLING FIRM (WITHOUT ABC NEWS/WASH POST)

1 + 4 + 5 + 6 - 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 20

Divided by the 10 polling firms in the aggregate not including ABC/WP...

-2.00 average in the spread




You're welcome for this schooling.

Now where's my teacher's paycheck?


*********
EDIT: Originally, I accidentally give Trump a +2 approval for the difference in the current spread of -12 compared to its previous spread of -10 for The Hill polling firm, when it should have been a -2. This change is now reflected in TABLE(s) A and C. (This mistake did not impact TABLE B).

The totals above for the final aggregate spread change have been changed in TABLE C as well.
*********

*********
EDIT 2: After making these tables, the newest EMERSON poll was added to the aggregate, making it 11 polls included instead of 10. I have updated the entire post to reflect this new information.

As I also noted in the "Polling Aggregate 101" thread, the POLL line in the Aggregate table shows different names from time to time such as "Rasmussen Reports" instead of "Rasmussen" and "Reuters/Ipsos" instead of "Reuters". This is a change that happened today as well, so to be in line with the lesson plan I have updated these tables to reflect the names stated when I took images of the polls as well.

No actual data has changed since this morning, other than the slight difference that adding the Emerson poll to the aggregate has on the SPREAD totals.
*********

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Friday, July 31, 2020 3:08 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're wrong, about everything you just posted. I have math to back it up. You have feels.

And yes... the polls are bullshit and in no way reflect reality and the "hidden" Trump vote. You'll find that out the hard way in November. However, as I've said before, the aggregate of polls are useful for showing trends. Even when they are lying, knowing which way the lie is blowing is good information to have on hand.

All that being said... Here. I'll do what you were trying and FAILING HARD to do because you're retarded. You're not going to like the results:



TABLE A:
POLLS CURRENTLY IN THE AGGREGATE VS. PREVIOUS POLL BY FIRM

(Current polls in the aggregate are Highlighted in this link: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html
)

RASMUSSEN REPORTS:
CURRENT: 7/28 - 7/30 - SPREAD: +2
PREVIOUS: 7/12 - 7/14 - SPREAD: -2 / +4 APPROVAL

REUTERS:
CURRENT: 7/27 - 7/38 - SPREAD: -18
PREVIOUS: 7/15 - 7/21 - SPREAD: -18 / NO CHANGE

YOUGOV:
CURRENT: 7/26 - 7/28 - SPREAD: -9
PREVIOUS: 7/19 - 7/21 - SPREAD: -14 / +5 APPROVAL

IBD/TIPP:
CURRENT: 7/25 - 7/28 - SPREAD: -11
PREVIOUS: 6/27 - 6/30 - SPREAD: -17 / +6 APPROVAL

THE HILL:
CURRENT: 7/24 - 7/26 - SPREAD: -12
PREVIOUS: 7/7 - 7/10 - SPREAD: -10 / +2 APPROVAL

CNBC:
CURRENT: 7/24 - 7/26 - SPREAD: -12
PREVIOUS: 7/10 - 7/12 - SPREAD: -14 / +2 APPROVAL

POLITICO:
CURRENT: 7/24 - 7/26 - SPREAD: -17
PREVIOUS: 7/17 - 7/19 - SPREAD: -17 / NO CHANGE

HARRIS:
CURRENT: 7/21 - 7/23 - SPREAD: -12
PREVIOUS: 6/17 - 6/18 - SPREAD: -14 / +2 APPROVAL

FOX NEWS:
CURRENT: 7/12 - 7/15 - SPREAD: -9
PREVIOUS: 6/13 - 6/16 - SPREAD: -11 / +2 APPROVAL

ABC/WP:
CURRENT: 7/12 - 7/15 - SPREAD: -18
PREVIOUS: 5/25 - 5/28 - SPREAD: -8 / -10 APPROVAL*




Ok, all anyone need do is follow the link you've provided. It will reflect the numbers I've posted. I don't know whats what with you claiming all the plus numbers. They aren't there.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 3:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

I don't know whats what with you claiming all the plus numbers. They aren't there.


They are there. I explicitly laid out where they come from. You still can't see them because you're retarded.

Read it again, dummy.


Short of that, do you have a parent at home you could ask to explain it to you? A caretaker?

Who wipes your ass for you and cuts up your food and feeds it to you so you don't choke on it when you eat?




If you can't focus on my entire reply because it's just too difficult for that smoothbrain to grasp, then I suggest you start with what you just quoted, dummy. It lays out perfectly where the + numbers came from, and all of those dates and numbers can be found and are backed up in the table that you apparently have no clue how to read.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 3:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It should be noted that I don't really care if you ever actually do figure out how polling works. You're an idiot, and you're going to vote for the idiot that you want to be in charge of the country.

It's absolutely fine with me if you're too stupid to read the table and makes no difference in my life whether you learn how to or not. Just back out of here now and ignore this thread and I won't say any more on the issue.


But if you persist on your idiocy and/or lies here, I'm going to continue to make a fool out of you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 31, 2020 4:52 PM

THG


I see what you’ve done dummy. You posted different polling in your revised post. The first time you posted you referenced the same poll I referenced. The one reflecting the 43% average.

Those numbers reflect what my post says. They are the numbers at the end of the link you provided. It was about his overall job performance. This is the link you provided:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html



Then you went searching for better polling and found polling on the economy. That explains your revised numbers. You also posted the wrong link with your revised numbers. At any rate, as I’ve said. Yesterday the new numbers on the economy showed it contracting by a full third. Oops, watch what happens to those numbers now. This link:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval_economy-6182.html


This is just one of the many reasons why I call you dummy, and when you start looking for typos to save face.


T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 9:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I see what you’ve done dummy. You posted different polling in your revised post.



No I didn't, dummy.

The only change I made was because I made a mistake with the spread on the two most recent polls by The Hill, which I referenced at the end of the post after making the proper changes. The EDIT reads as follows:

Quote:

*********
EDIT: Originally, I accidentally give Trump a +2 approval for the difference in the current spread of -12 compared to its previous spread of -10 for The Hill polling firm, when it should have been a -2. This change is now reflected in TABLE(s) A and C. (This mistake did not impact TABLE B).

The totals above for the final aggregate spread change have been changed from -2.3 and -2.56 to -2.1 and -2.33, respectively, as well.
*********






Quote:

The first time you posted you referenced the same poll I referenced. The one reflecting the 43% average.


MY ENTIRE POST FROM THE BEGINNING IS REFERENCING THE AGGREGATE OF POLLS THAT REFLECT THE 43.2% AVERAGE.

Not ONE poll dummy. An aggregate of 10 polls. The RCP Aggregate is not a single poll that was conducted. It is the average of the highlighted polls right underneath.

Quote:

Those numbers reflect what my post says.


No. They don't.

Quote:

They are the numbers at the end of the link you provided.


You're talking about the SPREAD, dummy. The last "number aisle", as your retarded and/or non-natively-English-speaking brain puts it.

Quote:

It was about his overall job performance.


No. The spread is not about his overall job performance. It is THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIS APPROVAL RATING AND DISAPPROVAL RATING on each, individual poll from each individual firm on each individual day it was tabluated.

In the case of the RCP Aggregate, it is the combined average of the 10 polls included in the aggragete. (which now went up again today and stands at 43.4% approval and 54.5% Disapproval, with a spread of 11.1).

Quote:

This is the link you provided:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html



Yes. That is the table that you have shown the class you have no idea how to read.

Quote:

Then you went searching for better polling and found polling on the economy.


No I didn't. I only used the numbers that were provided on the link that you just stated and that I stated on the OP. You can take any number and date that I used in my main post with the tables and see that they plug directly into the page.

Quote:

That explains your revised numbers.


No it doesn't. I only used the numbers that were provided on the link that you just stated and that I stated on the OP. You can take any number and date that I used in my main post with the tables and see that they plug directly into the page.


Quote:

You also posted the wrong link with your revised numbers.


No I didn't. I posted the same link on this entire thread. So that's either a lie or you're even stupider than I gave you credit for.

Quote:

At any rate, as I’ve said. Yesterday the new numbers on the economy showed it contracting by a full third.


Who's bringing up other pages now?

Stick to the topic and at least figure out why everything you've posted on this thread so far has been wrong before you go bastardizing numbers on another page.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 31, 2020 9:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ok... If you're reading this Kiki, you have a fine example of the exasperation one feels when regularly faced with the other side of the Dunning-Kruger Syndrome that nobody really talks about.

Feel free to leave a "putting you on ignore" message in reply to this so I know you got the message.


That being said, I'm going to try to actually teach Ted a lesson here. He doesn't know how that table works. Maybe if I cool off for a minute I can actually teach him how it works using pictures....



EDIT: And that being said, the newest Emerson Poll was added to the Aggregate today, making it 11 polls included instead of the 10 that were there this morning when I made the tables. I will add the info for the new Emerson polls to all 3 tables and the results. I was going to state that in my "lesson plan" in the next post, but I want to keep that as simple as I possibly can and not add to the confusion with that, so I'm putting it here. I will have a second "EDIT" in that post when I make that change.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 1, 2020 12:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Please keep any trolling in here, Ted, but I did make a lesson plan for you to learn how to use Polling Aggregates and read the tables.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63767&mid=11066
78#1106678





If you have any legitimate questions though, please feel free to ask them in the lesson thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 1, 2020 8:37 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Please keep any trolling in here, Ted, but I did make a lesson plan for you to learn how to use Polling Aggregates and read the tables.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63767&mid=11066
78#1106678





If you have any legitimate questions though, please feel free to ask them in the lesson thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



You went back and edited your posts. Glad I was able to help. I didn't mean to upset you so. I see you were so pissed off you started a new thread. This time posting what you wanted to post here originally, and then everything else you could find. It's as though you couldn't stop yourself.

I suppose you did that because you fucked this one up so badly. Again, so sorry to have upset you so. After a brief glance at your new thread, it appears you've gotten it right. Good for you dummy.

It does seem though, that you've spent hours doing so. It looks as though a mad man spent all night creating the new thread and cleaning this one up. Holy shit you must've been pissed.

It is a beautiful thread though Jack. And it really shows from all the different angels just how badly Biden is beating Trump. You've done this days' work for me. I couldn't have done better myself, and be prouder of you Jack. Thanks dummy.

Hey everybody, please check out Jacks new thread. It shows just how badly Biden is beating Trump. This shits just too funny Jack. You're killing me.

It shouldn't go unnoticed that Jack is now referencing as true, all the polls he has been claiming to be fake news for months. What a fucking dummy.


T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, August 1, 2020 12:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yes. I edited the post. I was completely transparent about that fact and I noted what the edits were. I'll post them again here, because I'm not hiding anything.

I made three edits to the original thread. All of them were remarked in the original post. Only one of them had any bearing on the outcome of the numbers due to a mistake on my part, and it was small.

1. Added the Emerson poll which was added to the RCP Aggregate after I made the original post. (And raised Trumps aggreage approval from 43.2% to 43.4%.)

2. Changed the names of the polling firms to the expanded names that RCP was using last night when I took screenshots. They change these from time to time and I have no idea why. I commented both in this lesson and in the original post that I did so. All numbers and dates matched and it did not change the outcome.

3. I had originally added 2 points to Trump's approval rather than subtract two points from The Hill poll. This had a very small net effect on his overall IMPROVEMENT of his polling average, which was still a sizable improvement either way.








Now that brings us to all of your false claims which you have not admitted that you were wrong or you were lying:

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Ok, all anyone need do is follow the link you've provided. It will reflect the numbers I've posted. I don't know whats what with you claiming all the plus numbers. They aren't there.


They are there. They always were there. Anybody who knows how to follow an aggregate can find them. You should be able to now as well since you claim to understand the lesson now.

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His poll numbers are dropping across the board. They are in no way going up. Yesterday the economy tanked big time. His polls are going to get even worse. My post pointed out all the - numbers in your poll.


Incorrect again. Proven wrong in the OP.

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Then you went searching for better polling and found polling on the economy. That explains your revised numbers.


The only poll that I ever used for the numbers is the Job Approval poll. This explains in full how I got my numbers. (Which, despite you saying that I edited the posts and made some massive changes, the only thing that has changed since yesterday morning was my mistake on the single poll comparison for The Hill that was incidental).

You can take any numbers and dates that I used and look at the Historical Polling Table and match them up.

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It is a beautiful thread though Jack. And it really shows from all the different angels just how badly Biden is beating Trump. You've done this days' work for me. I couldn't have done better myself, and be prouder of you Jack. Thanks dummy.


The polling for Hillary Clinton at this point in 2016 was better than Biden's polling.

The poll numbers themselves are bullshit. Just like they were 4 years ago. I've always said that, and I haven't been proven wrong yet. I'm not in your easy position where you get to just wave a bunch of fake polls that show everybody what you want to believe. Hence, this long post explaining how you need to use your brain a little if you want to find the actual truth for yourself. It's up to you now if you want to use it.

Once again, the legitimacy and bias of the polls is not the point of following trends using the aggregate. Specifically, it's not the point when following trends of polls that are extremely against Trump.


The bottom line is, nearly every poll has shown improvement for Trump since the last poll they released.

If you go back all the way to late May and compare them to the polls now, they are all just around even.



This was the point I was trying to make, and it was also the point you were saying wasn't true the whole time.

Don't pretend now that I've schooled you that you were arguing something different. You've already been quoted saying stupid shit.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yes. I edited the post. I was completely transparent about that fact and I noted what the edits were. I'll post them again here, because I'm not hiding anything.

I made three edits to the original thread. All of them were remarked in the original post. Only one of them had any bearing on the outcome of the numbers due to a mistake on my part, and it was small.

1. Added the Emerson poll which was added to the RCP Aggregate after I made the original post. (And raised Trumps aggreage approval from 43.2% to 43.4%.)

2. Changed the names of the polling firms to the expanded names that RCP was using last night when I took screenshots. They change these from time to time and I have no idea why. I commented both in this lesson and in the original post that I did so. All numbers and dates matched and it did not change the outcome.

3. I had originally added 2 points to Trump's approval rather than subtract two points from The Hill poll. This had a very small net effect on his overall IMPROVEMENT of his polling average, which was still a sizable improvement either way.


Do Right, Be Right. :)





Wow, again a long rambling post. I’ll keep the opening part because it details some of the mistakes you are willing to admit to. It also validates my post pointing out your mistakes. After you fixed them in the other thread, I only explained that your posts, plural, had been edited. I didn't say anything regarding the content of the edits. Only that I was glad I could help. To be honest I never read them. At a glance I noticed changes. All the other shit you speak of is going on in your head.

That said, it’s hard to go forward in opposition against posts that have been drastically altered. Riddle me this dummy. How can you claim I was wrong after you went ahead and admittedly fixed it all? Even created a new thread because the old one was so fucked up?

Now, I once again wish to thank you for creating a polling thread that will constantly remind you, and the rest of us, Trump doesn’t stand a chance. Then explain to you. If you think posting all those polls showing Trump being destroyed in any way enhances your viewpoint, that he is doing better when he may have went from -17 to – 15 is laughable. What a number like that shows he is getting killed.

And as I’ve stated in the other thread. The economy just tanked in a big way. His forced reopening turned into a nightmare for the country. In the areas where most of his support comes from. Yes, even for his most ardent supporters. This month is going to be bad. Many are going to be thrown to the streets because of the Republicans if they don’t do something quick. I’m looking forward to seeing the polling that follows. I’ll speak for all the never Trumpers and say, please Jack please, keep posting these polls.

Remember, temper temper boy. It only drives your low two digit IQ into the single digits. Why is this important to you? Because you’ve created a polls thread. Posting negative polls regarding Trump puts you into the never Trumpers camp; welcome.


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