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Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:23 PM

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President Trump Tweeted Against His Own Bill. Now Congress May Delay the Vote

President Donald Trump’s morning penchant for firing off controversial messages on Twitter potentially derailed his administration’s policy Thursday, after he came out against a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act renewal his own Administration is pushing.

The tweet came just hours before the House was preparing a much-anticipated vote on a six-year extension of Section 702 of the FISA program, which allows U.S. intelligence agencies to monitor foreign communications.

http://time.com/5098810/donald-trump-foreign-intelligence-surveillance
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Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:37 PM

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House rejects limits on surveillance program after confusion from Trump tweets

WASHINGTON — A proposal to impose significant new privacy limits on the National Security Agency’s warrantless surveillance program failed in a House vote Thursday, despite a yearslong effort by a bipartisan group of lawmakers to bolster civil liberties protections.

Lawmakers are now taking up a bill that would extend the legal basis for that program for six years with only minor changes.

But as a prelude to final action, the House of Representatives voted 233-183 to defeat an amendment that would have limited its extension to four years and added a series of privacy protections. The vote was a significant defeat for civil liberties advocates in the debate that broke out in 2013, following leaks by intelligence contractor Edward Snowden.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/11/house-rejects-lim
its-surveillance-program-after-confusion-from-trump-tweets/EedhP0vCad2TxOwvEY1oqI/story.html



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Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:00 AM

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Nearly all members of National Park Service advisory panel resign in frustration

Three-quarters of the members of a federally chartered board advising the National Park Service abruptly quit Monday night out of frustration that Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke had refused to meet with them or convene a single meeting last year.

The resignation of nine out of 12 National Park System Advisory Board members leaves the federal government without a functioning body to designate national historic or natural landmarks. It also underscores the extent to which federal advisory bodies have become marginalized under the Trump administration. In May 2017, Zinke suspended all outside committees while his staff reviewed their composition and work.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-all-members-of-national-park-
service-advisory-panel-resign-in-frustration/ar-AAuMYDi?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp



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Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Once again I have to applaud those with high paying, cushy government gigs and their bravery to quit and leave their positions open for anybody else who might be much more willing to just play ball and do whatever they need to do to keep a real job in this economy.

Way to fight the good fight, cowards. I hope you regret that decision to quit and you can't find a decent job paying anything close what you got paid before.

I hear Walmart is hiring.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:34 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


In private conversations, Trump has told advisers that he doesn’t think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said.
http://wapo.st/2DIU1sZ

I’m pretty skeptical that the political dynamics of September 2001 would be replicated today. But regardless, this is an odd line of thought for an incumbent president and his team to be entertaining.

If Trump thinks a terrorist attack would serve his political interests — either through a blind rally ‘round the flag effect or by specifically validating anti-immigrant demagoguery or what have you — how hard is he really working to keep the country safe?

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Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:35 PM

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Trump Doesn’t Believe in His Own Foreign Policy. Does That Matter?

here have been a great many odd things about the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, but one of the oddest is the vast distance that has opened up between the president and his own policies. Presidents never fully get their way on the entire range of foreign policy issues their administrations confront, although they do tend to get their way on the issues they care most about. But as I discuss in my new book, American Grand Strategy in the Age of Trump, this president’s core geopolitical beliefs and the foreign policy executed in his name have in several cases seemed 180 degrees apart.

The president clearly loathes NATO and believes that protecting the European allies is a fool’s errand, yet his administration has continued and even expanded efforts to reinforce deterrence along NATO’s eastern flank. He has repeatedly called for a new relationship with Russia, but his administration has now decided to sell lethal defensive weaponry to Ukraine, and is taking initial steps to develop a land-based, intermediate-range nuclear delivery system to counter Russian violations of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/16/trump-doesnt-believe-in-his-own-fo
reign-policy-does-that-matter
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Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:02 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by Thgrri:
Trump Doesn’t Believe in His Own Foreign Policy. Does That Matter?

here have been a great many odd things about the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, but one of the oddest is the vast distance that has opened up between the president and his own policies. Presidents never fully get their way on the entire range of foreign policy issues their administrations confront, although they do tend to get their way on the issues they care most about. But as I discuss in my new book, American Grand Strategy in the Age of Trump, this president’s core geopolitical beliefs and the foreign policy executed in his name have in several cases seemed 180 degrees apart.

The president clearly loathes NATO and believes that protecting the European allies is a fool’s errand, yet his administration has continued and even expanded efforts to reinforce deterrence along NATO’s eastern flank. He has repeatedly called for a new relationship with Russia, but his administration has now decided to sell lethal defensive weaponry to Ukraine, and is taking initial steps to develop a land-based, intermediate-range nuclear delivery system to counter Russian violations of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/16/trump-doesnt-believe-in-his-own-fo
reign-policy-does-that-matter
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If his administration is to follow Trump's preferences rather than the GOP's, he would have to assert himself. Why he does not is explained in an article "Congressional Republicans think Donald Trump’s sloth and ignorance is a feature, not a bug"
http://bit.ly/2Dlyv0p

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Friday, January 19, 2018 6:05 PM

JO753

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Trump iz stupid bekuz he haz a low IQ.

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Friday, January 19, 2018 6:06 PM

JO753

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Also, probably syphilis, wich damajez the brain.

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Friday, January 19, 2018 6:07 PM

JO753

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Also kuz he'z 71 and naturally loozing cognitiv speed and power.

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Friday, January 19, 2018 6:09 PM

JO753

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Also may hav the beginingz uv Alzhiemerz and other brain dezeazez associated with old aje.

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Friday, January 19, 2018 6:10 PM

JO753

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Also kuz he iz mentally lazy and ignorant. Duznt care about any uv the issuez a real Prezident needz to be well informed on.

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Friday, January 19, 2018 6:12 PM

JO753

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Also kuz he watchez Fox all day so haz more bogus propaganda swirling thru hiz hed than actual facts.

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Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:03 PM

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Don't be shy JO, speak your mind.


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Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Is the US bombing people around the globe? No. Then, so far, Trump did something smarter than Obama, Bush, and Clinton put together.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Is the US bombing people around the globe? No. Then, so far, Trump did something smarter than Obama, Bush, and Clinton put together.



https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-12-19/counterrorism
-strikes-double-trump-first-year


'US counter terror air strikes doubled in Trump’s first year"

"The number of US air strikes jumped in Yemen and Somalia in 2017, pointing to an escalation of the global war on terror.

President Donald Trump inherited the framework allowing US aircraft to hit suspected terrorists outside of declared battlefields from his predecessor, Barack Obama. Bar some tinkering, his administration has largely stuck within the framework set by the previous one.

However, the quantity of operations has shot up under President Trump. Strikes doubled in Somalia and tripled in Yemen.

In Afghanistan, where the Bureau has been monitoring US airstrikes since it was officially declared a noncombat mission at the end of 2014, the number of weapons dropped is now approaching levels last seen during the 2009-2012 surge."

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-already-killed-more-civilians-obama-
us-fight-against-isis-653564


"The U.S.-led coalition fighting the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) has killed more civilians during President Donald Trump's first seven months in office than in the three years it existed under his predecessor, according to the latest estimate by a U.K.-based monitor.

Meanwhile, there are signs that the drone war may be returning to Pakistan, where attacks were also up, compared with 2016."

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-ordering-airstrikes-at-5-times
-the-pace-obama-did-2017-4


"Trump is ordering airstrikes at 5 times the pace Obama did

US airstrikes in eastern Yemen over the weekend targeted Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, continuing the effort to disrupt "a terror organization that presents a very significant threat to the" US, a Navy spokesman said on Monday.

The weekend strikes, reportedly about 20 in total and mostly unmanned, brings the total against AQAP since February 28 to 70.

All told, Trump has ordered 75 drone strikes or raids in non-battlefield settings during his first 74 days in office, according to Micah Zenko, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations."

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-presidency-only-10-months-old-and-new-d
ata-his-airstrikes-alarm-684084


When President Donald Trump took office in January, it was unclear whether the bombast from his campaign would translate into an aggressive new strategy against terrorism. At campaign rallies he pledged to “bomb the hell” out of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS). He openly mused about killing the families of terrorists, a blatant violation of the Geneva Conventions, which prohibits violence against noncombatants.

Ten months into his presidency, a clearer picture is emerging. The data indicate several alarming trends.

According to research from the nonprofit monitoring group Airwars, the first seven months of the Trump administration have already resulted in more civilian deaths than under the entirety of the Obama administration. Airwars reports that under Obama’s leadership, the fight against ISIS led to approximately 2,300 to 3,400 civilian deaths. Through the first seven months of the Trump administration, they estimate that coalition air strikes have killed between 2,800 and 4,500 civilians.

Researchers also point to another stunning trend—the “frequent killing of entire families in likely coalition airstrikes.” In May, for example, such actions led to the deaths of at least 57 women and 52 children in Iraq and Syria.

The vast increase in civilian deaths is not limited to the anti-ISIS campaign. In Afghanistan, the U.N. reports a 67 percent increase in civilian deaths from U.S. airstrikes in the first six months of 2017 compared to the first half of 2016."


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kiki is always long on propaganda and short on facts.


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Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's always possible to look at very small number - like US airstrikes in Yemen - and talk about how they've 'doubled'. Maybe that means they went up from 1 to 2.
What's missing is the totality for 2017.






HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Obama's record:

https://www.cfr.org/blog/how-many-bombs-did-united-states-drop-2016

In President Obama’s last year in office, the United States dropped 26,172 bombs in seven countries. This estimate is undoubtedly low, considering reliable data is only available for airstrikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya, and a single "strike," according to the Pentagon’s definition, can involve multiple bombs or munitions. In 2016, the United States dropped 3,028 more bombs—and in one more country, Libya—than in 2015.

Most (24,287) were dropped in Iraq and Syria.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Despite many news reports to the contrary, THOR public data is restricted to WWI, WWII, and Vietnam.
http://afri.au.af.mil/thor/#.WmPpFXZXais

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/08/a-database-of-e
very-bomb-the-us-military-has-dropped-since-wwi/260640
/ Aug 2, 2012
A Database of Every Bomb the U.S. Military Has Dropped Since WWI
"Its data are up-to-date. Robertson uses the tool to keep track of ordnance used in the United States's ongoing wars -- Iraq, Afghanistan -- which can in turn be used as evidence for investigations into the many civilian deaths associated with those wars."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/sideshow/air-force-officer-creates-da
tabase-every-u-bomb-190227673.html

Air Force officer creates database of every U.S. bomb dropped since World War I July 30, 2012
"It has proven useful in the real world, in real time," Robertson told the Boston Globe. "You can pick any place you want and look at it in detail."

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/07/29/century-data-and-des
truction-chronicled-air-force-officer/5m2HK2CP9UcwwJzMhtdQOO/story.html

Bomb database useful for past, present wars July 30, 2012
The result: a compilation that, at the click of a mouse and a few keystrokes, reveals for the first time the sheer magnitude of destruction inflicted by the US and its allies from the air in the last century.





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Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:10 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:

That's only seven months, not Trump's whole first year. To think that this guy isn't going to play with his new toys after everything he's said and asked about nukes is a pretty amazing bit of not thinking.



I think that's a pretty unhealthy way of looking at things, but it's exactly what they want us to be doing.

Somebody like Obama didn't stop this terrible stuff we're doing in 8 years without hardly any reporting on it, despite all of his rhetoric to the contrary.

Now, there's still hardly any reporting on it that Trump is doing it, despite all of his rhetoric to the contrary. They're too busy calling him a racist for calling shithole countries shithole countries.

Meanwhile, we've been bombing the shit of out people for two decades now and I can't come up with a single reason why.



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Sunday, April 1, 2018 2:14 PM

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