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Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:37 PM

AURAPTOR

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Strange sounds in the sky


Sun nite, I wanna take a break from the lunacy of temper tantrum political yak-yak.

This seems to be cropping up on some other boards, for some reason. I guess since it's still not been figured out, some folks think it's worth asking about it again.

I think seem to recall some story or mention of it , a while back, but never paid it no mind. Since then there's dozens of youtube vids from around the world ( but none from Africa, oddly )

What IS this strange sound from the sky? Noise heard across the globe for nearly a DECADE - but nobody has an explanation



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3084260/What-str
ange-sound-sky-Noise-heard-globe-nearly-DECADE-explanation.html


snopes even has a bit on it, but as of yet, no explanation given.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/supernatural/strangesounds.asp

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:28 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Last time I heard a noise like that, a car drove past me with no tyres.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 11:15 PM

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Did ya see the vids of the creepy horn like ones ? Some liken it to the sounds the tripod machines made from war of the worlds.

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Sunday, May 17, 2015 11:40 PM

THGRRI


This is what the earth sounds like from space.




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Monday, May 18, 2015 5:54 AM

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This will bug me until a explanation is given.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 10:04 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
This will bug me until a explanation is given.

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It's staged rappy, stop being so gullible.


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Monday, May 18, 2015 10:11 AM

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I'm inclined to think maybe it is, but then the question is still " how ? ".

These sounds are damn loud. Even with using a tornado siren, ( which I've heard plenty ) I doubt they could reproduce them.

I do find it interesting how once the daily mail reports it, the story goes out all over. Some videos go back to 2008. This didn't just happen last week or even a few months ago.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 10:29 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm inclined to think maybe it is, but then the question is still " how ? ".

These sounds are damn loud. Even with using a tornado siren, ( which I've heard plenty ) I doubt they could reproduce them.

I do find it interesting how once the daily mail reports it, the story goes out all over. Some videos go back to 2008. This didn't just happen last week or even a few months ago.




I do not have a need to know how they do it. Why they do it in some cases is for the attention. The point is, is that it is a nefarious undertaking that does not deserve serious contemplation.


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Monday, May 18, 2015 11:08 AM

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Some of us are just more curious than others.

* shrug *

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Monday, May 18, 2015 12:04 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Some of us are just more curious than others.

* shrug *



Not looking to start something but the word you're looking for is gullible.


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Monday, May 18, 2015 12:14 PM

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You can overlay a sound track on a video, people do it all the time. (ETA: Or, as Snopes mentioned, you can play a soundtrack close to your smartphone mic to make it sound loud.)

In one video, there are about six people who appear to be scanning the sky. You and five of your friends could do that, and then overlay sound. In another video (the one with the child supposedly "frozen in terror") nobody appears to be running out of the houses to investigate. Nobody appears to rescue or comfort the child. I wonder if the "child" is a mannequin, and the sound (again) overlaid on a video. Other videos appear to be just shots of the sky, on which sound can (again) be easily overlaid.

Most of the noises sound orchestral - cellos, brass instruments (trombone anyone?), percussion section, possibly woodwinds, recorded in a echoing room or with an "echo" (delay) added electronically. It sounds like a soundtrack from something. But since several of the landscapes themselves don't appear to be able to generate echoes (You need large, flat, semi-vertical surfaces - like cliffs or mountains - to generate an echo.) and many of the landscapes are relatively flat and featureless, the sound quality doesn't fit the landscape. However, echoes DO make a noise sound "bigger", as our brain calculates the probable distance from the delay, and we assume that any sound that can be echoed over such a large distance must indeed be very loud.

This reminds me of the UFO pictures that were so common "back then", and crop circles. The ONE picture that nobody could explain ... was finally explained by the person who mocked it up: He tossed an aluminum pie dish in front of a piece of glass, such that the image reflected into the camera, as the camera was filming the sky and trees beyond.

Anyway, I'm convinced it's a prank. Just people funnin' ya.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 12:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Some of us are just more curious than others.

* shrug *



Not looking to start something but the word you're looking for is gullible.





You keep using that word...

Do you know the source ?

I don't. Don't even claim to. Terrestrial or not, I've no clue, so it's hard for me to be gullible about it.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 12:39 PM

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Might be a prank. Crop circles did come to mind.

And there are other sounds too. Not directly associated but also on the YouTube.

One caveat ... The sound also appears during a Tampa Bay baseball game. On tv.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 12:53 PM

SIGNYM

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IF it did, there must be a link. But even Snopes doesn't mention that event.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 2:01 PM

THGRRI


Gullible; easily persuaded to believe something.

Credulous; having or showing too great a readiness to believe things.

Naïve; showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment:

Unsophisticated; in this case as well as global warming, lacking worldly knowledge.

Simpleton; a foolish or gullible person.


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Monday, May 18, 2015 2:59 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
IF it did, there must be a link. But even Snopes doesn't mention that event.




Strange Sounds Tampa Bay ballgame 2012.

( go to YouTube and search w/ above title )

Granted, the sounds seems muffled, as the stadium is domed, but the announcer remarks ' close the door', indicating it was coming from outside. And yes, you can easily dismiss that as a track being layered over stock baseball footage as well.


Here's a site which has the locations reported, many of them w/ video.

http://www.seektress.com/ssounds.htm


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Monday, May 18, 2015 3:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Gullible; easily persuaded to believe something.

Credulous; having or showing too great a readiness to believe things.

Naïve; showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment:

Unsophisticated; in this case as well as global warming, lacking worldly knowledge.

Simpleton; a foolish or gullible person.




I see you've settled into troll mode, refusing to discuss the matter or even answer my questions concerning what it is you think I believe.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 3:53 PM

THGRRI


If you have ever used Skype, you will have noticed that even when there is no apparent air flow through the room you are in, to the person you are speaking with it can sound like you are in a wind tunnel.

Now I stated earlier that I did not wish to start something, however you leave me little choice but to point out the deficiencies in your thinking.

Keep in mind I post with you knowing your philosophy on many an issue. The confusion on your part over noises on a video posted on YouTube, just confirms you are void of critical thinking skills.

And that my dear Rappy, explains a lot about what your philosophy is on this or that subject.


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Monday, May 18, 2015 4:11 PM

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Thug uses an entire post to say nothing

Pure troll.

You still refuse to say what the sound is.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 5:47 PM

THGRRI


Taking pointers from 1kiki I see. The fact is I explained it all, and as with 1kiki, you have no response other than to dismiss what I have said by suggesting it does not answer your question. No surprise there, I'll try again. The video is a fake and you're not to bright if you can't figure that out for yourself.

As for me being a troll, I understand from experience that most down here are exactly that, trolls. So no surprise I treat you as one. A few who post down here are cool but there are also those with shit for brains. Being not to bright is not a crime but when it is accompanied by malice and lies then those who post that way are fair game as I see it.

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Monday, May 18, 2015 7:57 PM

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So, the video ( all of them ) , is fake?

Snopes can't even go so far as to declare it a hoax.

Guess they're not bright enough to see it either.

But you could have just said so, from post #1, and left off all the nonsensical , uncalled for ad hominems.

And yet, you didn't. You spent more time demeaning and insulting me for the crime of posing the question as to what these sounds are than explaining how and why they're fake.

You've offered exactly nothing to support your claim, or explain the HOW and WHY they're fake.

" Funny looking bones in the ground ? Dinosaurs ? Why, that's just crazy talk! " is what amounts to the sum total of your dismissal of this story.


Quote:


Being not to bright is not a crime but when it is accompanied by malice and lies then those who post that way are fair game as I see it.



Being not 'TO' bright ?

Really?

The only one posting malice and lies here in this thread would be you.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Monday, May 18, 2015 9:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, the video ( all of them ) , is [sic] fake?



Crop circles are, they were pranked over many years and countries, they're far harder to make and take a lot more work to fake. Why not videos?




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Monday, May 18, 2015 9:20 PM

AURAPTOR

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Dubbing audio onto stock video is pretty simple. Easier than doing crop circles in the middle of the night.

Mark it down as a hoax.

I'm out.


* drops mic *

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Monday, May 18, 2015 10:34 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, the video ( all of them ) , is fake?

Snopes can't even go so far as to declare it a hoax.

Guess they're not bright enough to see it either.

But you could have just said so, from post #1, and left off all the nonsensical , uncalled for ad hominems.

And yet, you didn't. You spent more time demeaning and insulting me for the crime of posing the question as to what these sounds are than explaining how and why they're fake.

You've offered exactly nothing to support your claim, or explain the HOW and WHY they're fake.

" Funny looking bones in the ground ? Dinosaurs ? Why, that's just crazy talk! " is what amounts to the sum total of your dismissal of this story.


Quote:


Being not to bright is not a crime but when it is accompanied by malice and lies then those who post that way are fair game as I see it.



Being not 'TO' bright ?

Really?

The only one posting malice and lies here in this thread would be you.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Go back and look. I told you it was staged in my second post. In my first post I was polite and did not mention it because it was so obvious.


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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:47 AM

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You offered no proof. No explanation. Just a " fake ", and then proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.

A curious mind would want to know who did it, why, how ...

Guess that's not you though.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:32 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You offered no proof. No explanation. Just a " fake ", and then proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.

A curious mind would want to know who did it, why, how ...

Guess that's not you though.



No, not really rappy. A curious mind would be more interested in learning how some get hooked into such hoooey. How some are susceptible to it while others are not.


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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:36 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You offered no proof. No explanation. Just a " fake ", and then proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.

A curious mind would want to know who did it, why, how ...

Guess that's not you though.



No, not really rappy. A curious mind would be more interested in learning how some get taken in by such hooey. How some are susceptible to it while others are not.

Have any clues as to why you may be susceptible?


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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You offered no proof. No explanation. Just a " fake ", and then proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.

A curious mind would want to know who did it, why, how ...

Guess that's not you though.

Unless the strange sounds were recorded by someone you know and can trust in the real world beyond the internet, and I do mean trust in a really real person, not just any fake name on the internet, your curiosity is wasting your time. Read that article, again: www.snopes.com/photos/supernatural/strangesounds.asp

"Although some of the sounds captured in the video may have natural explanations, some of the other noises clearly originated from a common, artificial source: an iPhone.

At the 4:45 mark in the above-displayed video, a clip purportedly taken in Alberta, Canada, begins to play and (like all of the other clips in this video) features a strange and seemingly unexplainable noise. But this section of the video is unique in having a definitive explanation: YouTube user DangleSnipeCelly08 admitted that the clip she uploaded on 14 January 2012 was a hoax . . . "

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:20 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You offered no proof. No explanation. Just a " fake ", and then proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.

A curious mind would want to know who did it, why, how ...

Guess that's not you though.

Unless the strange sounds were recorded by someone you know and can trust in the real world beyond the internet, and I do mean trust in a really real person, not just any fake name on the internet, your curiosity is wasting your time. Read that article, again: www.snopes.com/photos/supernatural/strangesounds.asp

"Although some of the sounds captured in the video may have natural explanations, some of the other noises clearly originated from a common, artificial source: an iPhone.

At the 4:45 mark in the above-displayed video, a clip purportedly taken in Alberta, Canada, begins to play and (like all of the other clips in this video) features a strange and seemingly unexplainable noise. But this section of the video is unique in having a definitive explanation: YouTube user DangleSnipeCelly08 admitted that the clip she uploaded on 14 January 2012 was a hoax . . . "

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Good post TWO. At first I thought I would interject something cool from a verifiable source, like the sound our planet makes as recorded by NASA. I did not put much stock in the fact that Rappy was suggesting his video may be legit. I was surprised to learn he was serious. I still tried to approach the topic without being to condescending, yet he continued to insist a person should waste time contemplating how it was done. Something like windows movie maker would allow a novice to create any of these web videos.

My solace comes from understanding that Rappy is the guy who also believes 90 plus percent of the worlds scientists are wrong when it comes to global warming, and this shows his inability to receive, perceive and then process information clearly . He is simply not someone who thinks things through, he just reacts.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:45 PM

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Thuggery - your understanding of me is greatly lacking.

90 % plus of the world's scientists do NOT buy into AGW.

Funny, you buy into that tripe, yet blindly dismiss me asking what these sounds were. Unlike you , the cynic, I was clearly showing skepticism. One of us knows the difference.

Fact of the matter is I was right in my skepticism, when I said they sounded like they came from the movie ' War of the Worlds '. Turns out, this guy said exactly that, a few years ago.

YouTube title :

Strange Sounds from the Earth and Sky totally debunked


( I never even heard of the Comet Elenin, or what ever )


As I said from the start, it was a slow Sun night, and I was bored. Too bad you couldn't just leave your mindless vitriol at the door for this one.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


90 % plus of the world's scientists do NOT buy into AGW. Funny, you buy into that tripe ...



Cite? Or did you just do a rappy ... You offered no proof. No explanation. ... and then you proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.

But I'm going to give you this one, because I'm feeling generous, and, technically, you're correct. It's not 90%, it's 97%. https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-i
ntermediate.htm






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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:39 PM

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97% = 90% +, doll.

And that claim is & always was a total sham.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alar
mists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims
/

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:28 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
97% = 90% +, doll.

And that claim is & always was a total sham.




Denying the facts only shows your ignorance. It is a ploy that some here use religiously.





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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 8:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And you believed it without bothering to cross check.

How naive.

But since the WSJ 'article' quotes no specific quotes and cites no specific cites from the original paper it pretends to discuss OR from the sources it claims were 'misclassified', it's difficult to disagree - or agree. It would be extremely easy to link or quote any or all of the points they claim in their favor. That they fail to do so indicates they can't back up their statements.

The WSJ author is also not above YOUR favorite trick, rappy, which is straw-manning. The WSJ author claims "The question Cook and his alarmist colleagues surveyed was simply whether humans have caused some global warming." But that's a lie. The paper examines a variety of levels of endorsement about human-caused global warming:
(1) Explicit endorsement with quantification - Explicitly states that humans are the primary cause of recent global warming
(2) Explicit endorsement without quantification - Explicitly states humans are causing global warming or refers to anthropogenic global warming/climate change as a known fact
(3) Implicit endorsement - Implies humans are causing global warming. E.g., research assumes greenhouse gas emissions cause warming without explicitly stating humans are the cause

... on through no position, uncertainty and ultimately to explicit disagreement.
It then provides statistics on each general category - but since tables don't copy well, you can find the figures here; http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

The WSJ author then goes on to dismiss the paper for asking the 'wrong' question - a question it lied about when it 'restated' it. The question is meaningless regarding the global warming debate because most skeptics as well as most alarmists believe humans have caused some global warming (note - no data or cite to back up THIS claim, either). ... Either through idiocy, ignorance, or both, global warming alarmists and the liberal media have been reporting that the Cook study shows a 97 percent consensus that humans are causing a global warming crisis. However, that was clearly not the question surveyed.
And yet, that's EXACTLY the question it very SPECIFICALLY answered in its categorizations.

Investigative journalists at Popular Technology* looked into precisely which papers were classified within Cook’s asserted 97 percent. ... Cook and his colleagues, for example, classified a peer-reviewed paper by scientist Craig Idso as explicitly supporting the ‘consensus’ position on global warming “without minimizing” the asserted severity of global warming.

And here's where a link, or set of links, to the specifics would help support the WSJ author's honesty. But as I stated at the start, there is no list of the papers examined, or of their classification by the original authors. The WSJ 'reports' - at length - a series of claims that, frankly, sound childish. Is TOO!!! Is NOT!!!!! For something that says it's looked at the data, it provides exactly zero data in support of itself.

* And about the 'source' the WSJ author so freely channels - 'Popular Technology' ... here are its editors:
Editor - 'Andrew K' (Computer Analyst)
Copy Editor - 'Karl' (Computer Scientist)
Contributing Authors - 'Doug' (Computer Engineer), 'Mike' (Electrical Engineer)
There is no listing of its funding ... its editorial board ... or its positions. And all - ALL - of its links regarding global warming are to deniers. That's what I call impartial. (And that's what I call irony.)


Meanwhile, when it comes to the question 'how many climate scientists support AGW' (and that IS the population you want to look at), the question has been asked and answered MANY different times by MANY different people.

Doran 2009
Subsequent research has confirmed this result. A survey of 3146 earth scientists asked the question "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" (Doran 2009).
Anderegg 2010
This overwhelming consensus among climate experts is confirmed by an independent study that surveys all climate scientists who have publicly signed declarations supporting or rejecting the consensus. They find between 97% to 98% of climate experts support the consensus (Anderegg 2010).
Vision Prize
Approximately 90% of participants responded that human activity has had a primary influence over global temperatures over the past 250 years, with the other 10% answering that it has been a secondary cause, and none answering either that humans have had no influence or that temperatures have not increased.

And one skeptic who originally disputed the results had to retract that position based on the data:
Benny Peiser, a climate contrarian, repeated Oreskes' survey and claimed to have found 34 peer reviewed studies rejecting the consensus. However, an inspection of each of the 34 studies reveals most of them don't reject the consensus at all. The remaining articles in Peiser's list are editorials or letters, not peer-reviewed studies.
Peiser has since retracted his criticism of Oreskes survey:
"Only [a] few abstracts explicitly reject or doubt the AGW (anthropogenic global warming) consensus which is why I have publicly withdrawn this point of my critique. [snip] I do not think anyone is questioning that we are in a period of global warming. Neither do I doubt that the overwhelming majority of climatologists is agreed that the current warming period is mostly due to human impact."




Ultimately this is an effort to address the lies of deniers - that scientists are significantly divided or uncertain about the existence of, or human cause of, global warming. They are not.

It assumes that people who can't be convinced by facts - and who are too lazy or stupid to do independent research into the basics - by, for example understanding how a greenhouse works - might possibly be receptive to the opinions of genuinely knowledgeable people.

But as we know, among deniers, beliefs come first. And facts only exist if they support beliefs.




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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:50 PM

AURAPTOR

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1kiki - you'll just talkin circles and dismiss any and all claims which go against your cherished and tightly held beliefs.

I get that.

I really do.

Point is, there is no " consensus" , as science does not and never has worked that way.

Plus, I can see for my own eyes, over mere decades, that things aren't falling apart.

But that really is for another thread.

Or not. As this matter is closed.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:56 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
1kiki - you'll just talkin circles and dismiss any and all claims which go against your cherished and tightly held beliefs.

I get that.

I really do.

Point is, there is no " consensus" , as science does not and never has worked that way.

Plus, I can see for my own eyes, over mere decades, that things aren't falling apart.

But that really is for another thread.

Or not. As this matter is closed.



Quote:

Rappy....Plus, I can see for my own eyes, over mere decades, that things aren't falling apart.


And there it is folks. Rappy looks out the window and notices no change in the local weather. Damn and I mean damn what a fool. To debate someone like this and expect anything but foolishness in response means you are not much brighter yourself. I am running out of people down here I will even speak with.


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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


1kiki - you'll just talkin circles and dismiss any and all claims which go against your cherished and tightly held beliefs. ... this matter is closed.



links? cites? logic? Or did you just do a rappy ... You offered no proof. No explanation. ... and then you proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.




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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:44 AM

AURAPTOR

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I did offer links and proof, and all you do is dismiss it out of hand and talk b.s.

You're an AGW cultist, and there's no talking to you on this matter.

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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Can you read? Or actually do anything other than lie?

Apparently not.

I didn't just 'dismiss it out of hand' - I DISCUSSED it in detail - with multiple quotes, links, data, comparisons and logic. All those things you are so averse to.

So, regarding MY post - did you discuss it? Or did you just do a rappy AGAIN ... dismiss it out of hand ... You offered no proof. No explanation. ... and then you proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.





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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:43 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
1kiki - you'll just talkin circles and dismiss any and all claims which go against your cherished and tightly held beliefs.

I get that.

I really do.

Point is, there is no " consensus" , as science does not and never has worked that way.

Plus, I can see for my own eyes, over mere decades, that things aren't falling apart.

But that really is for another thread.

Or not. As this matter is closed.



Quote:

Rappy....Plus, I can see for my own eyes, over mere decades, that things aren't falling apart.


And there it is folks. Rappy looks out the window and notices no change in the local weather. Damn and I mean damn what a fool. To debate someone like this and expect anything but foolishness in response means you are not much brighter yourself. I am running out of people down here I will even speak with.




Yes, I'd much rather believe my own eyes than the lies of those who have motive an agenda.

Such a fool, huh?

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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:08 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yes, I'd much rather believe my own eyes than the lies of those who have motive an agenda.

Such a fool, huh?

There’s plenty of stupidity in the world, and much of it imagines itself wise. But in my experience people who declare confidently that “scientists don’t understand X” usually turn out to be wrong both about X and about what scientists understand. Often what they imagine to be a big conceptual or empirical failure of science is just a failure of their own comprehension. Do they comprehend at least that? No.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yes, I'd much rahter (sic) believe my own eyes because my backyard is the whole globe. And I'd much rahter (sic) believe the lies of those who have motive an (sic) agenda as long as it's FOX news.

Fixed that for you.




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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:27 PM

AURAPTOR

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So, much like the sky-sound nonsense , this thread has degraded into another intentional hoax... man made climate change.

Obama spoke today about the threat of global warming, while ignoring Ramadi.

That is how completely out of sync w/ reality these idiots, and their sycophants, are with world in which we live.

Josh Earnest yaps about setting our hair on fire , metaphorically, as ISIS has taken Ramadi, while ISIS LITERALLY SETS PEOPLE ON FIRE AND BURNS THEM ALIVE !!!


I'm done w/ this nonsense.

Feel free to start a thread where you praise the almighty carbon credit, or some such nonsense.

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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Did you just do a rappy AGAIN? ... dismiss global warming out of hand ... You offered no proof. No explanation. ... and then you proceeded to insult any further discussion on the matter.






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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:01 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yes, I'd much rather believe my own eyes than the lies of those who have motive an agenda.

Such a fool, huh?

There’s plenty of stupidity in the world, and much of it imagines itself wise. But in my experience people who declare confidently that “scientists don’t understand X” usually turn out to be wrong both about X and about what scientists understand. Often what they imagine to be a big conceptual or empirical failure of science is just a failure of their own comprehension. Do they comprehend at least that? No.



Two thumbs up for TWO.


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Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


BTW rappy

Just because you're shitting your pants on command doesn't mean the rest of us are as stupid as you.




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Friday, May 22, 2015 7:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


1kiki - you just blindly believe what you're told by your overlords. You're bloody brilliant, aren't you ?

btw - my skivvies are clean and dry. Ya might want to change yours.

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Friday, May 22, 2015 9:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I told you right way why I thought it was a series of hoaxes, and pointed out the evidence. But rather than re-state what I wrote, why don't I just quote myself:

Quote:

You can overlay a sound track on a video, people do it all the time. (ETA: Or, as Snopes mentioned, you can play a soundtrack close to your smartphone mic to make it sound loud.)

In one video, there are about six people who appear to be scanning the sky. You and five of your friends could do that, and then overlay sound. In another video (the one with the child supposedly "frozen in terror") nobody appears to be running out of the houses to investigate. Nobody appears to rescue or comfort the child. I wonder if the "child" is a mannequin, and the sound (again) overlaid on a video. Other videos appear to be just shots of the sky, on which sound can (again) be easily overlaid.

Most of the noises sound orchestral - cellos, brass instruments (trombone anyone?), percussion section, possibly woodwinds, recorded in a echoing room or with an "echo" (delay) added electronically. It sounds like a soundtrack from something. But since several of the landscapes themselves don't appear to be able to generate echoes (You need large, flat, semi-vertical surfaces - like cliffs or mountains - to generate an echo.) and many of the landscapes are relatively flat and featureless, the sound quality doesn't fit the landscape. However, echoes DO make a noise sound "bigger", as our brain calculates the probable distance from the delay, and we assume that any sound that can be echoed over such a large distance must indeed be very loud.

This reminds me of the UFO pictures that were so common "back then", and crop circles. The ONE picture that nobody could explain ... was finally explained by the person who mocked it up: He tossed an aluminum pie dish in front of a piece of glass, such that the image reflected into the camera, as the camera was filming the sky and trees beyond.

Anyway, I'm convinced it's a prank. Just people funnin' ya.



You didn't notice any of that???

Apparently, you have NO idea how to do an analysis! (But, what am I saying? We've known that for YEARS.) That leaves you vulnerable to what people are "saying" about something, which means that you tend to believe what some people (Limbaugh, Bush, Beck, Koch etc) tell you, about all manner of things (WMD, global warming, racism) while completely ignoring the evidence in front of your face. Instead of looking across the internet for people that you agree with, next time - before you make a total fool or yourself again- why don't you look AT THE EVIDENCE? TRY NOT TO MENTALLY CENSOR IT, even if (no, ESPECIALLY IF) you don't like what it's telling your. That's your biggest defect, you reject clear in-your-face data if you don't like it, or if you don't have an explanation for it.

Yanno, RAPPY, I'm beginning to think that you're intellectually challenged. So, are you? Have you even been dx with anything?

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