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"ISIS isn't a threat" and other thoughts.

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Monday, March 30, 2015 2:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I was scanning an article the other day about a young woman who realized that she didn't have to drink herself into numbness, sleep around, and pretend wanting to get "pounded like a porn star" ... like everyone back in her liberal arts college days. Since she started drinking less, she got in touch with her real feelings. In defense of her newfound sobriety and self-respect, she wound up writing ... "it's not that I'm a prude, it's not that I can't be insatiable" (or words to that effect) and ... at that point my mind kind of skidded to a halt on what she was saying. Because in her mind, being "insatiable" was still a GOOD thing, something she was still capable of. But in my day, that was being a "nymphomaniac" and it was featured in all kinds of porn stories. Apparently, her morals were formed by porn movies.

Which put me in mind of a "happy hour" that I went to with some coworkers. The younger end of the table was taking endless selfies, laughing over nothing (no, they weren't THAT drunk) and looking like a beer commercial. I got the very strong impression that they felt that if they looked like they were having fun and they documented that they were having fun, then - by god, they were having fun! But it seemed flat and inauthentic, because once the selfies stopped so did the fun.

And then it occurred to me that a lot of people were now behaving the same ... wanting the same things, doing the same things, having sex like in porn movies, and having fun like in beer commercials because that's what's been modeled for them, over and over. Incredibly conforming.

Everyone believing they were individual .... and yet, they were behaving all the same, down to the most intimate details of how they sounded when having sex. Not a unique thought among them. Not a spark of empathy either.

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It doesn't matter what the other article was about, I read the phrase ISIS isn't a threat", and my mind skidded on that one too.

Because, I realized that the question wasn't whether ISIS was a threat or not, but TO WHOM.

And you know what?

ISIS ISN'T A THREAT.

Not if you're a member of the State Department, for example, or a member of Congress, or a member of the Joint Chiefs, or the CEO of Northrup. In fact, there is a whole set of the power elite for whom ISIS isn't a threat at all. In fact, ISIS is a godsend if you want to win elections by wrapping yourself in the flag without EVER giving up your big campaign donations and cushy post-political career. It's a godsend if you want more money for your weapons company, or you want to scare the peons into accepting total surveillance.

It occurred to me that these people aren't taking advantage of situations, stumbling and fumbling around until they find an opportunity in all of the chaos, hell, they MAKE the chaos. It's perfect for them! Al Qaida? No problem! ISIS? Even better! Every nation in the mideast falling apart? Better yet! More drones! More weapons! More surveillance! More control! Skate into office on a platform of scaring the people. People too afraid to resist. All of this chaos, it's not accidental. TPTB don't have the motives that we THINK they have. Among them, there are probably not enough of them to fill a regular-sized classroom who even have a jot of caring about "the people" or protecting "the nation". I think that the ones at the highest levels of power - Obama, Hillary, Boehner, any of the Bushes, pretty much everyone in Congress, anyone who's a CEO of a large corporation, and most generals who have three or more stars.... have spent so much of their careers brown-nosing, backstabbing, lying, and stealing that the only motivation they have left is self-aggrandizement, no matter what the cost. They've been reverse-winnowed, selected for psychopathy, and the rest of us just don't understand how much we're being viewed as fodder.

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Monday, March 30, 2015 6:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


1) People no longer belong to identifiable groups with distinctive views leading to different mindsets between individuals. They belong to the mass of the commercial audience, being taught the same mass-media myths and mores. Also, connections between individuals have become attenuated and abstracted: attenuated since individuals no longer depend directly on other individuals, but on 'systems'; and abstracted since fewer interactions take place directly, but go through a medium instead.

Hence, people have few if any identifiable povs in their overall bland homogenized consumerist one. Also, their interactions are pantomimes that they've learned from mass media.





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Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The Terror Strategist: Secret Files Reveal the Structure of Islamic State (or, why ISIS is not at all a threat to our leadership or the Israelis'). If you read the article carefully, there is no mention of Israel, no mention of Saudi Arabia (except as source of jihadist recruits), and no mention of America (except as the initial spark of the problem). In the words and charts of ISIS' master strategist himself, Syria and Iraq are the targets.

Rest easy, Saudis. Your tyranny is safe.

Quote:

Aloof. Polite. Cajoling. Extremely attentive. Restrained. Dishonest. Inscrutable. Malicious. The rebels from northern Syria, remembering encounters with him months later, recall completely different facets of the man. But they agree on one thing: "We never knew exactly who we were sitting across from."

In fact, not even those who shot and killed him after a brief firefight in the town of Tal Rifaat on a January morning in 2014 knew the true identity of the tall man in his late fifties. They were unaware that they had killed the strategic head of the group calling itself "Islamic State" (IS). The fact that this could have happened at all was the result of a rare but fatal miscalculation by the brilliant planner. The local rebels placed the body into a refrigerator, in which they intended to bury him. Only later, when they realized how important the man was, did they lift his body out again.

Samir Abd Muhammad al-Khlifawi was the real name of the Iraqi, whose bony features were softened by a white beard. But no one knew him by that name. Even his best-known pseudonym, Haji Bakr, wasn't widely known. But that was precisely part of the plan. The former colonel in the intelligence service of Saddam Hussein's air defense force had been secretly pulling the strings at IS for years. Former members of the group had repeatedly mentioned him as one of its leading figures. Still, it was never clear what exactly his role was.

But when the architect of the Islamic State died, he left something behind that he had intended to keep strictly confidential: the blueprint for this state. It is a folder full of handwritten organizational charts, lists and schedules, which describe how a country can be gradually subjugated. SPIEGEL has gained exclusive access to the 31 pages, some consisting of several pages pasted together. They reveal a multilayered composition and directives for action, some already tested and others newly devised for the anarchical situation in Syria's rebel-held territories. In a sense, the documents are the source code of the most successful terrorist army in recent history.

Until now, much of the information about IS has come from fighters who had defected and data sets from the IS internal administration seized in Baghdad. But none of this offered an explanation for the group's meteoric rise to prominence, before air strikes in the late summer of 2014 put a stop to its triumphal march.

For the first time, the Haji Bakr documents now make it possible to reach conclusions on how the IS leadership is organized and what role former officials in the government of ex-dictator Saddam Hussein play in it. Above all, however, they show how the takeover in northern Syria was planned, making the group's later advances into Iraq possible in the first place. In addition, months of research undertaken by SPIEGEL in Syria, as well as other newly discovered records, exclusive to SPIEGEL, show that Haji Bakr's instructions were carried out meticulously.

Bakr's documents were long hidden in a tiny addition to a house in embattled northern Syria. Reports of their existence were first made by an eyewitness who had seen them in Haji Bakr's house shortly after his death. In April 2014, a single page from the file was smuggled to Turkey, where SPIEGEL was able to examine it for the first time. It only became possible to reach Tal Rifaat to evaluate the entire set of handwritten papers in November 2014.

This document is Haji Bakr's sketch for the possible structure of the Islamic State administration.


"Our greatest concern was that these plans could fall into the wrong hands and would never have become known," said the man who has been storing Haji Bakr's notes after pulling them out from under a tall stack of boxes and blankets. The man, fearing the IS death squads, wishes to remain anonymous.

The Master Plan

The story of this collection of documents begins at a time when few had yet heard of the "Islamic State." When Iraqi national Haji Bakr traveled to Syria as part of a tiny advance party in late 2012, he had a seemingly absurd plan: IS would capture as much territory as possible in Syria. Then, using Syria as a beachhead, it would invade Iraq.

Bakr took up residence in an inconspicuous house in Tal Rifaat, north of Aleppo. The town was a good choice. In the 1980s, many of its residents had gone to work in the Gulf nations, especially Saudi Arabia. When they returned, some brought along radical convictions and contacts. In 2013, Tal Rifaat would become IS' stronghold in Aleppo Province, with hundreds of fighters stationed there.

It was there that the "Lord of the Shadows," as some called him, sketched out the structure of the Islamic State, all the way down to the local level, compiled lists relating to the gradual infiltration of villages and determined who would oversee whom. Using a ballpoint pen, he drew the chains of command in the security apparatus on stationery. Though presumably a coincidence, the stationery was from the Syrian Defense Ministry and bore the letterhead of the department in charge of accommodations and furniture...



http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/islamic-state-files-show-str
ucture-of-islamist-terror-group-a-1029274.html


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Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


ISIS released another video of a group of Christians being beheaded , while also another group were shown being murdered via shots to the head.

Bury yourself in diagrams and officially worded texts all day long, but the reality at the end of the day can't be ignored.

Try as hard as some might.

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Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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ISIS released another video of a group of Christians being beheaded


Where?

in the United States? Israel? Saudi Arabia?

Did you not read? The ISIS leadership isn't interested in American soil. They're interested SYRIA and IRAQ.

Now, the leadership is primarily ex-Iraqi commanders from the now-disbanded army of Iraq. They are NOT primarily religious (which was one of the reasons why it was such a mistake to depose Saddam). HOWEVER, they see it as a great advantage to recruit jihadists to their cause. The jihadists may eventually overthrow their Iraqi commanders.

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Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:13 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


In Libya.

But if you're naive to think they're not interested in the US, or taking over the rest of the planet, then go check under your pillow for a quarter from the tooth fairy.

If you really think they'd stop at Iraq and Syria, you're delusional beyond words.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, July 12, 2015 8:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.







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