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Life from Mars?

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Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Saw story today about the Nakhla meteorite having inside it some cell structure, indication of water and life. Came from Mars, about 1.3 million or billion years ago, apparently.

News date was 15 Sep, 2014 - so it didn't seem like old news. Anybody heard of it?

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Friday, September 19, 2014 8:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I heard about it, but from a more direct source....

The Martians have been living under rocks and caves for a millennia now.....

Their advanced scientific discoveries such as Terra-forming and advancements in artificial light have allowed them to remain human while living out their lives in their sub-subterranean prison.



Of course the Earthlings found evidence of salt water on the surface. We don't have the luxury of flushing our toilets DOWN.



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Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:01 AM

AURAPTOR

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First I'm hearing of this.

From Wiki -

London's Natural History Museum, which holds several intact fragments of the meteorite, allowed NASA researchers to break one open in 2006, providing fresh samples, relatively free from Earth-sourced contamination. These scientists found an abundance of complex carbonaceous material occupying dendritic pores and channels in the rock, resembling the effects of bacteria observed in rocks on Earth.[9]

A debate took place at the 37th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in March 2006 in Houston, Texas over the postulate that carbon-rich content within the pores of the rocks consisted of the remains of living matter. Because carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe (after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen), the presence of shapes resembling living organisms was considered insufficient by most attendees to prove that bacteria once lived on Mars.



I'm guessing that is a different meteorite than the one containing this...



ALH84001 - which was recovered from the Antarctic.



Yanno, it seems a tad odd that we'd only find trace, obscure suggestions of life from meteorites here on Earth, and nary anything of substance actually ON the planet, despite sending so many probes and satellites, some of which actually made it there in one piece and are working.


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Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
First I'm hearing of this.

From Wiki -

London's Natural History Museum, which holds several intact fragments of the meteorite, allowed NASA researchers to break one open in 2006, providing fresh samples, relatively free from Earth-sourced contamination. These scientists found an abundance of complex carbonaceous material occupying dendritic pores and channels in the rock, resembling the effects of bacteria observed in rocks on Earth.[9]

A debate took place at the 37th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in March 2006 in Houston, Texas over the postulate that carbon-rich content within the pores of the rocks consisted of the remains of living matter. Because carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe (after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen), the presence of shapes resembling living organisms was considered insufficient by most attendees to prove that bacteria once lived on Mars.



I'm guessing that is a different meteorite than the one containing this...



ALH84001 - which was recovered from the Antarctic.



Yanno, it seems a tad odd that we'd only find trace, obscure suggestions of life from meteorites here on Earth, and nary anything of substance actually ON the planet, despite sending so many probes and satellites, some of which actually made it there in one piece and are working.



On planet, they would need to survive the elements, and mars is now a harsh environment.

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Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:02 PM

AURAPTOR

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I'm not talking of anything surviving, but any HINT of life, other than the impressions of liquid water in the landscape.

If memory serves, Viking had 3 different tests to check for the evidence of life. 2 of them were negative, and one of them was positive. By a vote, the team went w/ the 2 negative tests, and a ' consensus ' was arrived at by NASA.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not talking of anything surviving, but any HINT of life, other than the impressions of liquid water in the landscape.

If memory serves, Viking had 3 different tests to check for the evidence of life. 2 of them were negative, and one of them was positive. By a vote, the team went w/ the 2 negative tests, and a ' consensus ' was arrived at by NASA.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


Hope I'm not sounding pedantic, but I did mean any hint - being preserved in rock, largely undisturbed in space, versus all the weathering, erosion, and atmo which is not conducive to life as we know it, or can find - and for eons. It is not like we dug and drilled as deep in Mars as we know we need to on terra to find fossilized records.

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Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:30 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

On planet, they would need to survive the elements, and mars is now a harsh environment.




Life can survive in a lot more harsh conditions than we thought. Extremes here on Earth, in the cold depths below thick ice , or boiling mineral geysers on the surface, and everywhere in between.

I think when it comes to finding life, or just signs of extinct life, " out there ", we'll take what ever we can find.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:17 AM

MUTT999


Interesting stuff. Just wondering what you guys think of this idea that life on Earth began when a Mars meteorite hit us:

http://www.space.com/22577-earth-life-from-mars-theory.html



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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MUTT999:
Interesting stuff. Just wondering what you guys think of this idea that life on Earth began when a Mars meteorite hit us:

http://www.space.com/22577-earth-life-from-mars-theory.html




That is the default explanation for atheists when they finally admit evolution does not hold up. Some make fun of them for effectively saying "God did not create life, it came from aliens" (extra-terrestrials, which would include Martians). But they do not - and cannot - explain where life on Mars (or other planet) came from if not God.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:46 PM

AURAPTOR

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I don't know why Mars would be more suitable for life to begin than Earth.

The origins of life, mystery that it is, is really a separate issue from the FACT of evolution.

The THEORY of evolution is the process by which it took place, still needs to be studied.

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