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Hey Rappy, what's your beef with the Divine Ms. Palin??

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:47 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Palin got smacked pretty good by the RIGHT for comparing Baptism to water-boarding. As well she should. It was a stupid thing to say.
This wasn't one of her greatest moments.


I don't get it. What's so bad about her comment? Waterboarding is just a relatively harmless interrogation technique, akin to sleep deprivation or harsh language, according to many of your past posts. Not like it's torture or anything, right? 'Cause the United States does not torture, or commission the torture of ANYONE, right?

What am I missing here?

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:38 PM

CHRISISALL



LOL, your silence kinda answers my question.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:10 PM

JONGSSTRAW





You ought to try it sometimes.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:18 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


"Hey! Look at me! Acknowledge me! Talk to me! Love me!"

Mr. Chrisisall - 2014.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:23 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
"Hey! Look at me! Acknowledge me! Talk to me! Love me!"


Not a bit of it. I just set a perfect trap for that waskally Waptor. If he tried to argue his way out, he'd fail (hence the no-show). If he avoided arguing as he has been, he admits he can't win this one.
He hung himself with that Palin remark.
This is a fun day off.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:29 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Having a black or white view of the world is pretty simplistic. Even for you IMHO.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:31 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
Having a black or white view of the world is pretty simplistic.

Darn.
*kicks BDM to the intake*

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:42 PM

STORYMARK


Aw, how cute. The fellow in question doesn't have the balls to answer - but his vapid cheerleaders are here to cover.






"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:55 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Storymark:
Aw, how cute. The fellow in question doesn't have the balls to answer - but his vapid cheerleaders are here to cover.

I think that's an insult to the vapid cheerleader community.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 3:04 PM

STORYMARK


Good point.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, May 2, 2014 3:22 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Perhaps Auraptor is still in favour of aggressive interrogation techniques but can see the folly of trying to marginalize them with off color remarks.
Perhaps it was the insertion of religon into the topic that Auraptor, as an atheist, found troubling.
Perhaps...

ETA : Hi Marky!

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Friday, May 2, 2014 3:37 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
aggressive interrogation techniques

Ahh, that old euphemism for torture that 4 out of 5 Fascists prefer!

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Friday, May 2, 2014 3:41 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Pats Chris on the head.
"Aren't you just the cutest, now go play with your models".

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Friday, May 2, 2014 3:47 PM

CHRISISALL


Smashes chair over BDM.
"No one touches my do."

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Friday, May 2, 2014 3:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

LOL, your silence kinda answers my question.



Some of us actually work, Chrissy.

I can't take your question Or this thread , seriously.


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Friday, May 2, 2014 4:00 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Smashes chair over BDM.


Just like a REAL fascist does. You love the violent stuff.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 4:01 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
I can't take your question Or this thread , seriously.

Thank you!
Got my answer right there.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 4:02 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Just like a REAL fascist does. You love the violent stuff.

It's the Chuck Norris in me.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 4:06 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Focus on your inner Kwai Chang Caine part ... you'll live longer.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 4:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
I can't take your question Or this thread , seriously.

Thank you!
Got my answer right there.



I'm sure you think you did.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 6:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
I'm sure you think you did.

When you ask a little kid if he took the last cookie, and he just stands there saying nothing, you've gotten your answer.
But you, AU, YOU take the cake.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
I'm sure you think you did.

When you ask a little kid if he took the last cookie, and he just stands there saying nothing, you've gotten your answer.
But you, AU, YOU take the cake.



Actually, the little kid is stunned in silence, wondering who the hell you are, why are you asking about cookies, and how did you get into his house.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Mine was funnier as well as more astute.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Mine was funnier as well as more astute.



Heh heh. Exactly what someone w/ humor envy would say.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:31 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Heh heh. Exactly what someone w/ humor envy would say.

Heh heh, inaccurate & unfunny (again). Exactly what a Rappy would say.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Heh heh. Exactly what someone w/ humor envy would say.

Heh heh, inaccurate & unfunny (again). Exactly what a Rappy would say.



Ouch. Sounds like I touched a nerve.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:47 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Ouch. Sounds like I touched a nerve.

Touched? I'd say you were.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Ouch. Sounds like I touched a nerve.

Touched? I'd say you were.



Dude, you're trying too hard.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 8:11 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Dude, you're trying too hard.

And you can't address the thread's original post. You KNOW if you get into it you'll face a bunch of of serious resentment for your pro-waterboarding views. Or oh, have you re-accessed? That would mean you were WRONG.
Either way, you can't touch this seriously because of your need for a comfort level.
You little fuzzy Rappy.
My trap has you snared.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 8:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


i'm still very pro waterboarding. It's how we got the intel on Osama, which Barry used to achieve possibly his one great victory in his entire 2 terms in office. Yay waterboarding !

But to compare it to baptism ? Horrific. And Sarah should know that, too. Look at what the 2 things are...

Waterboarding: a means of enhanced interrogation ( as the US used it ) to get uncooperative individuals to offer up intel which they otherwise would be unwilling to relay.

Baptism: A Christian ceremony which is believed to be essential in the salvation of the individual, and signifies their acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior.

The two could not be any different. What Palin was jokingly attempting to convey was basically a conversion via Inquisition methods, to get the Jihadists to convert, via waterboard ,instead of being baptized.

What I ,and I suspect most conservatives take offense to , is not Palin's openness to the use of waterboarding of terrorists , but her comparing it to being baptized. She appears to have double downed on her comments, focusing on the issue of dealing w/ terrorists, and not how she compared 1 act to another.

Quote:

“If some overly sensitive wusses took offense, remember the First Amendment doesn’t give you a right not to be offended. Perhaps hypocritical folks who only want Freedom of Speech to apply to those who agree with their liberal agenda might want to consider that the evil terrorists who were the brunt of my one-liner would be the first to strip away ALL our rights if given the chance,” she wrote in the 319-word post. “That’s why we do whatever we can to prevent them from killing innocent people. And for that, we should NEVER apologize. Good Lord, critics... buck up or stay in the truck.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-defends-bizarre-w
aterboarding-comments-article-1.1772967#ixzz30bjcWzqP





I agree w/ her willingness to do what is necessary ( not " what ever it takes " ) to stop the murder of innocents by these radical killers. MY issue is how she tried to associate it to a calm, even pleasant act of baptism, which isn't done out of coercion, but entered into freely. ( Unless it's an infant being baptized, then it's just sprinkles of water , with no real meaning to them. )

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Friday, May 2, 2014 8:43 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
i'm still very pro waterboarding. It's how we got the intel on Osama

Oh, I am gonna need a link to some reliable site to believe that. I read it was an informant...
Quote:



But to compare it to baptism ? Horrific. And Sarah should know that, too. Look at what the 2 things are...

Waterboarding: a means of enhanced interrogation ( as the US used it ) to get uncooperative individuals to offer up intel which they otherwise would be unwilling to relay.

Baptism: A Christian ceremony which is believed to be essential in the salvation of the individual, and signifies their acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior.

The two could not be any different. What Palin was jokingly attempting to convey was basically a conversion via Inquisition methods, to get the Jihadists to convert, via waterboard ,instead of being baptized.

What I ,and I suspect most conservatives take offense to , is not Palin's openness to the use of waterboarding of terrorists , but her comparing it to being baptized. She appears to have double downed on her comments, focusing on the issue of dealing w/ terrorists, and not how she compared 1 act to another.

Quote:

“If some overly sensitive wusses took offense, remember the First Amendment doesn’t give you a right not to be offended. Perhaps hypocritical folks who only want Freedom of Speech to apply to those who agree with their liberal agenda might want to consider that the evil terrorists who were the brunt of my one-liner would be the first to strip away ALL our rights if given the chance,” she wrote in the 319-word post. “That’s why we do whatever we can to prevent them from killing innocent people. And for that, we should NEVER apologize. Good Lord, critics... buck up or stay in the truck.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-defends-bizarre-w
aterboarding-comments-article-1.1772967#ixzz30bjcWzqP





I agree w/ her willingness to do what is necessary ( not " what ever it takes " ) to stop the murder of innocents by these radical killers. MY issue is how she tried to associate it to a calm, even pleasant act of baptism, which isn't done out of coercion, but entered into freely. ( Unless it's an infant being baptized, then it's just sprinkles of water , with no real meaning to them. )

Well, you know what, you actually addressed the issue at hand, and while I do not agree with your views at all, I have to say I admire your candour & effort. Thank you. I didn't see it coming.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 8:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Chris - didn't you see Zero Dark Thirty ? Yes, it's a movie, but it's suppose to depict the general means by which waterboaring lead to the name of a al-Qaeda courier which was then used to track down the whereabouts of bin Laden.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 9:11 PM

JONGSSTRAW


ZDT my muscular buttocks! We have spy satellites that see everything. A big private compound with security just outside a Pakistani military complex? Who did they think was inside there... Dr. Richard Kimble?

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:14 PM

CHRISISALL


I agree with Jongs.^

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
ZDT my muscular buttocks! We have spy satellites that see everything. A big private compound with security just outside a Pakistani military complex? Who did they think was inside there... Dr. Richard Kimble?



Again, did you NOT see ZDT ? Those points were addressed. And satellites ? Hell, OBL has been crafty enough to stay out of direct overhead line of sight since Tora Bora. Geeez.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:37 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Again, did you NOT see ZDT ?

MOVIE.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:01 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Yesterday was the 3 year anniversary of his killing. The Pakistani doctor who helped us get him is still rotting in jail and being tortured for his part in helping us. We give Pakistan billions of dollars, so why can't Barry get him out?

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Yesterday was the 3 year anniversary of his killing. The Pakistani doctor who helped us get him is still rotting in jail and being tortured for his part in helping us. We give Pakistan billions of dollars, so why can't Barry get him out?



I thought I heard the doctor was getting out or had his sentence reduced.

@Chrissy - A Bridge Too Far was a movie too. Based on REAL events.

It happens.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:46 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I thought I heard the doctor was getting out or had his sentence reduced.



Yes, his sentenced was reduced ....
Quote:

(CNN) -- A Pakistani doctor convicted of helping the CIA track Osama bin Laden had his sentence reduced Saturday by 10 years to a total of 23 years. Dr. Shakeel Afridi had been convicted of treason and sentenced to 33 years.

Gee, only 20 more years to go now! It's a cakewalk! I'm sure when he gets out he'll thank Barry personally for all his support. Let that be a lesson to anyone else who ever thinks about helping the U.S.


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Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I thought I heard the doctor was getting out or had his sentence reduced.



Yes, his sentenced was reduced ....
Quote:

(CNN) -- A Pakistani doctor convicted of helping the CIA track Osama bin Laden had his sentence reduced Saturday by 10 years to a total of 23 years. Dr. Shakeel Afridi had been convicted of treason and sentenced to 33 years.

Gee, only 20 more years to go now! It's a cakewalk! I'm sure when he gets out he'll thank Barry personally for all his support. Let that be a lesson to anyone else who ever thinks about helping the U.S.




See ? Barry helped out. What more do you want? If not for Barry, things would be worse for the doctor.

Just like w/ our economy, right ?

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 11:03 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Maybe some day, a reporter will ask Carney or Obama about it. Or the next few Presidents. Meanwhile, he rots and gets god knows what type of daily torture. And what about the $25 million dollar reward for OBL? I wonder who got that.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 3:40 PM

CHRISISALL


Please don't be so naive guys- this is the espionage game; you use your assets, then you burn them.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 5:43 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Please don't be so naive guys- this is the espionage game; you use your assets, then you burn them.


That's right, fuck your friends. Obami-wan has taught you well.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 5:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Palin? Or is that just dog-whistle politics? Oh, never mind.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 6:50 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

That's right, fuck your friends. Obami-wan has taught you well.


Obi-Wan?
CHUCK.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Please don't be so naive guys- this is the espionage game; you use your assets, then you burn them.


That's right, fuck your friends. Obami-wan has taught you well.



Barry just sees this as another knock at America, and he's cool w/ that.


His mum taught him well to hate his " home " country.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:14 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Barry just sees this as another knock at America, and he's cool w/ that.
His mum taught him well to hate his " home " country.

See? This is the simplistic nonsense that I hate from you, man. You can never see the bigger picture, always lost in the details. He doesn't hate America any more than George Bush did.
Feel free to say he's destroying this country, but lay off the distracting bullshit, please? It serves no purpose in a discussion of what's actually wrong with his administration.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:37 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Barry just sees this as another knock at America, and he's cool w/ that.
His mum taught him well to hate his " home " country.

See? This is the simplistic nonsense that I hate from you, man. You can never see the bigger picture, always lost in the details. He doesn't hate America any more than George Bush did.



Truth be told, he really does.

Quote:

President Obama's mother married his father at the ripe young age of 18, after the two met in a Russian-language class at the University of Hawaii. At the time, interracial marriage was illegal in most states.

Dunham was three months pregnant when the two tied the knot in a ceremony so discrete that her son never uncovered any records of the event, according to Scott's biography of Dunham, "A Singular Woman."

By the time Obama was a year old, his father, Barack Obama Sr., had moved from Hawaii to Massachusetts to get a masters degree from Harvard. By the time he was six, he had moved with his mother to Indonesia after she married Lolo Soetoro. The couple had a daughter, Maya Soetoro, before they divorced in 1980.



Never hear of his sister, do we?

Point is, Barry was shipped from Malaysia to Hawaii by his mum because...

wait for it

Daddy Lolo was starting to actually LIKE capitalism!!

Mum would have nothing of it, and sent Barry back to live w/ her folks, who were, btw. SOCIALIST.

Barry never set foot on mainland USA until he was 17.




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Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Barry never set foot on mainland USA until he was 17.


So what? You are so full of unrelated shit 24/7.

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Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Barry never set foot on mainland USA until he was 17.


So what? You are so full of unrelated shit 24/7.




Oh,but it does matter.

He's not a REAL American. Sorry if it pisses you off to read that, but he isn't.


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