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The Toilet Paper Partnership, or TPP

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Sunday, February 2, 2014 1:11 PM

SIGNYM

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...[F]or the last four years it has been negotiated in secret, rather than Congress, which is constitutionally responsible for negotiating trade under the Commerce Clause--. Rather than Congress negotiating it, you have 600 corporations, who have been appointed by the U.S. trade representative to be advisers, they see it live on their computer screen. While it's a secret to everybody else, they see it live, and they're suggesting add this paragraph, take out that clause, add this section, take out that section. For four years we've had these corporate lawyers trying to write this agreement. So it's a very pro-corporate agreement....


There are some very important chapters that, if they're leaked, will create such opposition that there's no way this will pass, for example the rights of corporations to sue governments in these rigged trade tribunals. I call them rigged because the judges will be three judges, all on leave from their corporate job, becoming judges voting for the corporation and then going back their corporate job. And what they can sue for is not just, you know, their losses, but they can sue for expected profits, for their expected profits. So if you, like, want to hydrofrack in Vietnam and you've started to make plans for that and you have massive profits from that coming, you hope, and Vietnam passes a law saying no to hydrofracking, they can sue Vietnam in this rigged court, rigged trade tribunal, and get massive damages of just fantasy profits. And so it's a really--you know, if that gets leaked, where that's ended up or how far that's progressed, that will create incredible opposition, because when people know--. And there's no appeal for those tribunals. You can't go to a real court. You're stuck with that resolve.
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Monday, February 3, 2014 11:26 AM

GEEZER

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I thought for a second this was gonna be about folks trying to smuggle TP into Venezuela. j/k.

I'm really puzzled as to why the Administration is backing this. Guess those campaign coffers need a little more.




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Monday, February 3, 2014 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Why did Bill Clinton push for NAFTA?

And this was in an era when there was a vigorous anti-NAFTA campaign by H Ross Perot. Perot left us with the phrase "giant sucking sound", which described exactly what happened to jobs in the USA (700,000 jobs lost, due to NAFTA). Later, Clinton would say that NAFTA was the greatest mistake I've ever made.

Democrats are no better than Republicans when it comes to protecting our manufacturing capacity. They'll sell us down the river just as fast as the GOP. The "regrets" that come afterwards don't stop them from doing the same thing, or worse, even faster and harder in the future. Obama not only wants the TPP, he want to abrogate Congress' negotiating authority by trying for a "fast track" around Congress.

I just wish dyed-in-the-wool Democrats would realize that the party as a whole is not out for the interests of their constituents.

Yep, must be campaign contribution season (again, still).


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