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Leftist Professor Jonathan Turley : ' Obama a danger to the Constitution '

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Monday, December 23, 2013 4:35 PM

AURAPTOR

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Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid"

Quote:


Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction. (House hearing, December 3, 2013)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/04/turley_obamas_become
_the_very_danger_the_constitution_was_designed_to_avoid.html







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Monday, December 23, 2013 6:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Do you agree with him?


As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
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Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
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Monday, December 23, 2013 7:00 PM

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Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?


The OP stands alone. Agree with it, or not, and comment, as you see fit.

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Monday, December 23, 2013 7:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


A yes or no is pretty simple to type. But sadly, it's beyond you to type either.

Since you have no interest in discussion, don't expect any from me.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
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Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
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Monday, December 23, 2013 8:29 PM

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Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ?

With out a single remark about the actual issue.

Too gorram funny.



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Monday, December 23, 2013 8:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I asked if you agreed. You refused to discuss it. Failure to discuss YOUR OWN THREAD? That's on you.

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As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
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Monday, December 23, 2013 9:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
There is [sic]two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama....



This is what the "lefties" on this board have been telling you for years, dumbass.

Now, why did there have to be Democrat in high office before you started posting threads about this worrisome concentration of power? Why do you start kvetching about it now, while you only defended it--loudly--when Bush was in office?

No, I don't expect you to answer, and I'm certainly not supposing that there are any light bulbs in your brain pan that could be turned on. Just need to point out your extreme hypocrisy on the off-chance that some lurkers haven't picked up on it yet.


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Monday, December 23, 2013 9:16 PM

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M4P - You misquoted my original post. The part you attributed to me wasn't MY quote, but from the linked story. Please, if you would, correct that. TIA.

Bush hasn't been in office for quite some time. Obama is fully into his 2nd term, and the professor is talking of the EXPANDING powers of the Executive Office, under Obama.

I know Bush raised concerns from even conservatives, but Obama is furthering the trend. That's the problem. The ' fundamental transformation' Prez is seemingly going unchecked, by a compliant and willing media, as well as members of his own party.

There's no hypocrisy here on my part, what so ever. You lefties keep trying to tag me with that, but you keep failing, so miserably. Y'all probably should put it to rest, and deal w/ the current resident in the White House, no ?




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Monday, December 23, 2013 9:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ?

With out a single remark about the actual issue.

Too gorram funny.



What is funny is that there has not been any ad hominem attack on you in this thread.

Now as for the video M4P got it right. You want to prove him wrong post a link to that thread you started or agreed (during Bushes Presidency) with the premise that Bush was expanding the powers of the Presidency beyond the Constitution.

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Monday, December 23, 2013 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ?

With out a single remark about the actual issue.

Too gorram funny.



What is funny is that there has not been any ad hominem attack on you in this thread.




* " As evidence of "rape mentality..."

* This is what the "lefties" on this board have been telling you for years, dumbass *


Well, other than those couple...

Quote:


Now as for the video M4P got it right. You want to prove him wrong post a link to that thread you started or agreed (during Bushes Presidency) with the premise that Bush was expanding the powers of the Presidency beyond the Constitution.




This isn't about Bush. And I don't need to search any damn thing to remember what I said from 6 or 8 years ago. I and other conservatives DID have reservations about expanding the powers of the Presidency, as well as the entire Dept of Homeland Security Act. That we didn't go apeshit over it and call for W's execution , as the Left just about did, doesn't mean we were all on board.

Again, this is about what OBAMA has done, since Jan 20, 2009. We're now at the end of 2013. Yet you want to keep pretending W is still in office.

Why is that, exactly ?

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:04 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yo there! I quoted your very own words. I even gave the name of the thread, and the dates an times of the posts. Are you claiming that YOUR OWN WORDS are ad hominem attacks?


As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
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whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:12 AM

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You know damn well what I'm claiming.

"evidence of rape mentality " is absolutely ridiculous and an absurd, insane distortion of what I said. A JOKE, that Limbaugh made, and he was proven to be 100% right, on the REAL issue of the govt forcing insurance companies to pay for contraception.

In no way,shape, manner or form is anything he joked about or I supported have any damn thing to do w/ 'rape mentality'. That's just feminazi bat shit crazy, and you know it.

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:49 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Women who want contraception covered as a routine health measure are whores. According to you and Flush. So, you don't like your own words quoted and find that insulting. I'll continue then.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
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Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:21 AM

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Wrong again , x 2

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:28 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

* " As evidence of "rape mentality..."

* This is what the "lefties" on this board have been telling you for years, dumbass *


Well, other than those couple...



The first is part of a signature the second came after my post. Plus nether is ad hominem. Ad hominem is discounting an argument because the person is a dumbass, not a person's argument making them a dumbass.

Please learn what things mean before you try and use them.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

This isn't about Bush. And I don't need to search any damn thing to remember what I said from 6 or 8 years ago. I and other conservatives DID have reservations about expanding the powers of the Presidency, as well as the entire Dept of Homeland Security Act. That we didn't go apeshit over it and call for W's execution , as the Left just about did, doesn't mean we were all on board.

Again, this is about what OBAMA has done, since Jan 20, 2009. We're now at the end of 2013. Yet you want to keep pretending W is still in office.

Why is that, exactly ?



It is about the expansion of Presidential power, which includes past presidents. You are making the claim that you and others made these arguments against Bush while he was in office so it is on you to provide the evidence.

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:39 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"It is about the expansion of Presidential power, which includes past presidents."

Not only that, Turley mentions Bush by name in his address - IN RAPPY'S OWN POST. So it is about Bush as well.

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:55 AM

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What is funny is that there has not been any ad hominem attack on you in this thread.



There had been 3, in fact, at the time you made your post. 2 by 1kiki ( the same one, repeated ) and 1 by M4P.

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So it is about Bush as well.


But only as a side note. It is about Obama, who has been President for 5 years, and instead of being who he campaigned as, or as many HOPED he'd be, turned out to be worse than Bush. Yes, Bush is mentioned, but only as a barometer to how bad Obama has become.

So, it's about Obama.



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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:59 AM

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Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ?
Because you're a troll who refuses to rationally discuss your very own threads?? Or your very own opinions? I mean, the second you feel any heat, you either disavow what you just said, or you bail, or both!

Take your anthill-stirring stick, go home, and stop whining. We all know you're a coward already.

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:09 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
There had been 3, in fact, at the time you made your post. 2 by 1kiki ( the same one, repeated ) and 1 by M4P.



It is clear you don't not understand what ad hominem means. There have been none against you in this thread.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But only as a side note. It is about Obama, who has been President for 5 years, and instead of being who he campaigned as, or as many HOPED he'd be, turned out to be worse than Bush. Yes, Bush is mentioned, but only as a barometer to how bad Obama has become.

So, it's about Obama.



So you do in fact agree with Professor Turley. Why did you not just say that when asked instead of this.

I would ask you what expansions of Presidential power do you believe Obama has done worse than Bush?

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
There had been 3, in fact, at the time you made your post. 2 by 1kiki ( the same one, repeated ) and 1 by M4P.



It is clear you don't not understand what ad hominem means. There have been none against you in this thread.



I do understand, and there absolutely have. This is beyond inane. Dismissing my position,ignoring the issue, and attempting to discredit me via insult. Text book Ad Hominem.

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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 10:48 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?-rappy
Because... you started the thread?

tee hee hee

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Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?-rappy
Because... you started the thread?

tee hee hee



The RCP's story I linked to has the title - Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid"

I'm discussing the issue , or trying to, while others are stuck in mindless distractions and ad hominems.

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:08 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

The RCP's story I linked to has the title - Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" I'm discussing the issue , or trying to, while others are stuck in mindless distractions and ad hominems.
RAPPY, here's a word-for-word repetition of that part of the thread

Quote:

Leftist Professor Jonathan Turley : ' Obama a danger to the Constitution '-RAPPY

Do you agree with him? -KIKI

Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?- RAPPY

Wow, jumping to ad hominems yourself right at the start of the thread, aren'tcha?

Quote:

Because... you started the thread?- SIGNY

I'm discussing the issue , or trying to, while others are stuck in mindless distractions and ad hominems.



Er, no you're not. In fact, you rather pointedly refused, while slinging ad hominems first thing. So, since you refuse to discuss your very own thread, but immediately jumped to ad hominems yourself... why are you here, exactly?

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:25 AM

AURAPTOR

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I slung no ad hominems.


What we have here is failure to commnunicate. You call that what are ad hominems not so, and then claim I am using ad hominems when I never did.



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Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:19 AM

SIGNYM

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I slung no ad hominems.
*sigh* And I even underlined it for you. You refused to disuss your own argument because some imagined (and irrelevant) fault of the person to whom you were speaking. You may as well have said Yeah, and you have boogers in your nose!.

So, NOW are you ready to discuss your OP? Because that was everyone's objection to your response: your refusal to explain and discuss your own viewpoint. Now you're whining that ppl won't talk to you??? Sheesh! How old are you?

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:27 AM

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I even underlined it for you


That wasn't any sort of ad hominem you underlined. Me pointing out when others have distorted my views / words and then tried to claim them for something they aren't isn't any sort of an ad hominem.




Yeah, I won't start a dialogue with 1kiki because of the ad hominem nonsense. That's who my comment was directed to, as was made clear.

I have ALWAYS been ready to discuss the topic.

So, Obama.. a threat to the Constitution. I agree. So does a former supporter of Obama in Prof Turley.


Thoughts ?

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:37 AM

SIGNYM

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I have ALWAYS been ready to discuss the topic.
Except with....

It's forgivable that you don't know what an ad hominem is. It's a slippery concept, and one that you seem to have a hard time applying. But to not know the meaning of the word ALWAYS???? Because "always" means "no exceptions" and, dang, if you didn't make an exception right before you used the terms "always"!

Word of advice... and one I've given you before - be very careful of the terms "always" and "never". Okay?

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:42 AM

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You're trolling now. I've clearly demonstrated that I do know what ad hominem means, and have already stated as such in this thread. Demonstrated it as well. Your repeated attempts to patronize me over such a irrelevant thing seems like an issue for you.

I am ALWAYS ready to discuss the topic save for those who start off by insulting me. ALWAYS.

I started in w/ the actual topic discussion, and you're STILL ignoring the issue.

So, Obama.. a threat to the Constitution. I agree. So does a former supporter of Obama in Prof Turley.


Thoughts ?

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're trolling now. I've clearly demonstrated that I do know what ad hominem means,



No you still do not.

Ad hominem is short for "argumentum ad hominem" which means "to the man". It is a fallacy in which an opinion or statment is seen as less valid because of the person making it.

So say, "What Rappy says can't be true because he is an idiot" is an ad hominem.

Saying "Rappy you are an idiot because of what you say" is not an ad hominem.

Now you know and have been proven wrong, yet again.

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:51 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, Obama.. a threat to the Constitution. I agree. So does a former supporter of Obama in Prof Turley.

Thoughts ?



I think Obama is a threat the to eConstitution for people who interpret the Constitution is a certain way. I don't see it.

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:03 AM

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He's a "leftist?" LOL!

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:56 PM

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It would be interesting to see Mr. Turley cite some examples of how Obama is acting in an "imperial" manner.

Like by submitting medical care reform to the Congress for the full legislative process to play out?

Like nominating judges, even Supreme Court justices, cabinet officials, and executive branch officers to Congress and allowing them to be confirmed or not?

Like concluding international treaties and not submitting them to the Congress for ratification?

Like allowing legislation and Presidential acts to be appealed to the Supreme Court, there to be upheld or declared unconstitutional.

RealClearPolitics has always been a right-wing mouthpiece. I used to read it, just to see what my enemies were up to. It's no surprise that they found somebody attacking Obama, and printed what he said. I wouldn't expect THEM to back up what he said with specifics, any more than I'd expect Rappy to. But it would be nice if Turley did.

And of course, Rappy is slinging his usual BS by saying that this isn't about Bush. Turley himself says it is about Bush and Obama, and other past Presidents.

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:01 PM

SIGNYM

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Rappy, if you had read anything I've written about Bush and Obama with just a smidgen of understanding, you'd already know my answer.

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Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're trolling now. I've clearly demonstrated that I do know what ad hominem means,



No you still do not.

Ad hominem is short for "argumentum ad hominem" which means "to the man". It is a fallacy in which an opinion or statment is seen as less valid because of the person making it.

So say, "What Rappy says can't be true because he is an idiot" is an ad hominem.

Saying "Rappy you are an idiot because of what you say" is not an ad hominem.

Now you know and have been proven wrong, yet again.



Nope. not proven wrong. Dismissing my point as you disparage me = ad hominem. These tedious , pointless little side arguments of the Left are classic Saul Alinky distractions. " Play the man, not the ball ", is often used in sports, meaning go after the opponent and don't bother w/ the actual POINT of the game.

@ NOBC - RCP isn't the issue here, so don't go slaying the messenger. Prof Turley has given ample explanations as to why he feels the powers of the office of the Presidency have exceeded its Constitutional limits. I've offered 2 examples here, why not do some of your own research on what Prof Turley says on the matter ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, December 27, 2013 9:21 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Saul Alinky distractions.




Hey, like that other thread-- if you can't throw in George Soros, throw in Saul Alinsky. ( But spell his name wrong?) If we were discussing California politics, you'd be throwing in "Governor Moonbeam" and Rose Bird, wouldn't you?

Quote:



@ NOBC - RCP isn't the issue here,




Yeah, and neither was Bush. If the source is biased, its argument might lack credibility.

Quote:



I've offered 2 examples here,





Funny, I just reviewed the ENTIRE thread, everything YOU'VE posted in it. I've read you repeating the charge a couple of times, but not a single specific example of anything Obama has done that involves increasing Presidential power or expanding the " imperial Presidency." I cited several examples of Obama NOT doing that, off the top of my head. Perhaps you could quote to me where you posted those examples.

Oh, that's right-- from your reply above, you don't have to defend your own own posts, or prove that you posted anything ever, or stand by your words.
You can get away with posting anything you want, any time you want, and that makes whatever you say retroactively true for all time.

The phrase "lying sack of gose hun-dan" comes to mind...


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Friday, December 27, 2013 9:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Dismissing my point as you disparage me = ad hominem.
Ah, I see where the communication problem occurs.

Dismissing my point AS YOU ("at the same time as") disparage me is NOT ad hominem. It becomes ad hominem if your point is dismissed BECAUSE you are being disparaged for an irrelevant reason. In other words, if someone attacks you for an irrelevant reason INSTEAD OF addressing your point, they are simply using one of your irrelevant characteristics as a distraction. So either please grasp the concept more firmly, or learn to express your understanding more accurately. Also, as a reminder, please be more careful about using "always" and "never". They should almost never appear in your posts unless you can demonstrate that the words apply.

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Friday, December 27, 2013 10:31 AM

MAL4PREZ


You know, another sign of Rappy's authoritative mindset is how he jumps on any possibility of a "leftist" making negative comments about Obama.

Imagine what it would have taken to make Rappy criticize Bush while W was in office. The worst presidency in modern times: he crashed the economy, started two illegal wars, increased the income gap while exploding the deficit and rolling back personal freedoms, etc... none of this made Rappy blink an eye, because in his RWA brain you DO NOT criticize your chosen leader.

He cannot fathom that things are different for anyone else, so if a "leftist" criticizes O: HOLY SHIT O must have done something AWFUL! LOL!

(Of course, that's unless it's a liberal poster here criticizing O. Rappy just blocks that out that because it goes against his "worship" theory. Which is all just projection, really.)

As to all this ad hominem stuff: Rappy, you long ago proved that you are incapable of on-topic discussion. In fact, not long ago I DARED you to stay on topic in another thread and you fled. Because you know you'll get spanked if you try.

To me, the only purpose you serve in RWED is to illustrate the bizarre ways that the RWA brain works. This thread is a shining example, and I will continue to assess you without any concern for all your bitching and moaning until you show you are capable of discussing the real world like a rational being. Such as: being equally critical of all ends of the political spectrum.

I am not holding my breath.

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The French Revolution would have never happened if Marie Antoinette had just given every peasant an iPhone.

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Friday, December 27, 2013 10:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I really wish that rappy would read The Authoritarians but I doubt that he will.

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Friday, December 27, 2013 2:21 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nope. not proven wrong. Dismissing my point as you disparage me = ad hominem. These tedious , pointless little side arguments of the Left are classic Saul Alinky distractions. " Play the man, not the ball ", is often used in sports, meaning go after the opponent and don't bother w/ the actual POINT of the game.



People addressing your points and asking your opinion is not dismissing your points.

You fail again.

You have also been the one avoiding making an staments on the original topic and have not posted any examples as you said.

So you want to get back on topic, do it. Give us an example of how President Obama has extended the power of the president beyond the Constitution.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, December 27, 2013 5:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hmm, let's see. What did I post?

I asked rappy if he agreed with his own post.
I QUOTED HIM, word for word, with references to thread, context, date and time, as my sig.

So, rappy: Do you dispute that you posted those words that I quoted? If they are YOUR WORDS, IN CONTEXT, what makes them an ad hominem? And, more to the point, do you agree with your own post?

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Friday, December 27, 2013 6:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


This is the last trading day of the year.

Buy!

SELL!!

Rappy's too busy today to answer.

heh heh heh

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Friday, December 27, 2013 7:45 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is the last trading day of the year.

Buy!

SELL!!

Rappy's too busy today to answer.

heh heh heh



Sell quick, at a loss. Drive the market down for the year. It'll be Obama's fault, and PROVE that he's not only a danger to the Constitution, but to the economy as well!

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Friday, December 27, 2013 8:04 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is the last trading day of the year.

Buy!

SELL!!

Rappy's too busy today to answer.

heh heh heh



Praying to his one true god.


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Friday, December 27, 2013 10:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is the last trading day of the year.

Buy!

SELL!!

Rappy's too busy today to answer.

heh heh heh



Yeah. I made more in 15 minutes than you do all freakin' year.

Loser.

Seriously, you think I'm some sort of trader ? Too gorrma funny. The more you try to pigeonhole me, the greater your fail.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, December 27, 2013 11:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Every time rappy tells us how he just won - and we just failed - it's after he's blown himself up in an EPIC fail.

It's a FACT: Rush Limbaugh is a blue pill addict.



As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies.


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Friday, December 27, 2013 11:45 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Every time rappy tells us how he just won - and we just failed - it's after he's blown himself up in an EPIC fail.

It's a FACT: Rush Limbaugh is a blue pill addict.





Really ? How so ? Elaborate, please. If you can.

And how is it a "FACT" about Limbaugh?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:31 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I already explained it.


It's a FACT! Rush Limbaugh is a blue pill addict!


As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies.


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Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:22 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Yeah. I made more in 15 minutes than you do all freakin' year.
Loser.
Seriously, you think I'm some sort of trader ? Too gorrma [sic] funny. The more you try to pigeonhole me, the greater your fail.

Oh, I have you pigeonholed quite well: You're an asshole with a lot of money who knows nothing about anything.

You haven't figured out what I think about Obama, despite that fact that I've made myself quite plain more than once. You know nothing about "the left" and nothing about the Nazi era in Germany. In fact, nothing about history. Nothing about economics. Nothing about science. Nothing about the Constitution. Nothing about logic. Nothing about anyplace else besides the reichwing echo chamber where you live.

Certainly nothing about how much I make in a year.

In fact, you are astonishingly, amazingly vacant about the great number of topics that you insist on posting about here in RWE.

Next?

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Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Sig and 1kiki both... if it helps you to get through the day believing those things, then by all means, carry on.

*snicker*

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Unlike you, rappy, I don't need to "believe" what a callous, cowardly ignoramus you are. I don't need to put words in your mouth, or make all kinds of suppositions about what you think and how you treat others. All I need is to observe. And to quote. And I imagine KIKI thinks the same.

As a proselytizer for your cause, you suck. But as a life-lesson to liberals about why "being nice" isn't going to change society (because ppl like you will never change voluntarily) you're doing GREAT!. So carry on.



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