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Lies From Romney's Past

POSTED BY: KWICKO
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Friday, May 18, 2012 3:58 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




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Romney said in a 1978 interview with the Boston Herald, "My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit." It's a claim that he continued to make over the years, most notably during a 2007 interview on Meet the Press with the late Tim Russert.
He said, "You can see what I believed and what my family believed by looking at our lives. My dad marched with Martin Luther King. My mom was a tireless crusader for civil rights." A few days after the appearance, The Boston Phoenix reported that they could not find any record of a march that featured both King and Romney.
Romney has since walked back his statements, suggesting that when he said he "saw" his father march with King he meant it as a "figure of speech."
Then there was Romney's hunting 'experience'. When speaking on gun rights in April of 2007, he declared, "I've been a hunter pretty much all my life." A few days later he backpedaled. "I'm not a big-game hunter," he said. "I've made that very clear. I've always been, if you will, a rodent and rabbit hunter. Small varmints, if you will. And I began when I was 15 or so and have hunted those kinds of varmints since then. More than two times."
Romney has had other occasions of "misspeaking" in his many runs for office, including wrongfully saying that he received an endorsement from the National Rifle Association in 2002. These incidents could be indicative of a trend of misrepresentation from Romney, a trend that goes beyond typical political spin.
If Romney can't escape the perception that he's disingenuous or even unprincipled it could seriously damage the likely GOP nominee in the general election. And with YouTube, Twitter and other social media tracking his every move -- it won't be easy to get away with white lies.



http://www.thegrio.com/politics/mitt-romney-martin-luther-king-problem
.php



Maybe he was remembering that same march with his dad and MLK that Obama was...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy


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Friday, May 18, 2012 4:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup....

Nothing I didn't expect.....

They're both LIARS

That's why they got the job.



Unfortunately for Obama, Mitt hasn't had 4 years under the media scrutiny to destroy his own image by following through with 4 years of lies yet. (really, Obama hasn't had any of that either, but here we are 4 years later, and EVERYTHING is worse).....

Seriously man... I'm not saying it will be any better, but Romney is our next President.

Nobody thought Kennedy would be our first Catholic President either....

You know full well all the Christians White, Black and Mexican alike are going to vote against Obama now that he came out full bore on the issue.

And it's going to get a shit ton of people who were just going to stay at home and not vote for the Morman.

The times, they are an changin.....



Seriously man... take 3 steps back and look back at American heritage.....

Especially, how STUPID and UNINFORMED your average voter is overall....


If I had enough money to front the advertizements with the disenfranchisement of the kids today, I'm pretty sure I could make ads online to get them to vote Mayor McCheese for President in 2012.




Sorry Rap... I don't stay down with my ship.....

When and if I ever get the means, I'm out of here and renouncing citizenship.

Both Democrats and Republicans HATE you and me.....

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Friday, May 18, 2012 5:41 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Seriously man... I'm not saying it will be any better, but Romney is our next President.


Wanna bet ?



The fix, ladies and gentlemen, is in - believe it.
Not that this, yanno, IMPROVES matters any, but I'll take weak and corrupt any day over batshit-fuckin-crazy.

-Frem

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Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ahhh, BIG thanx Mike; I knew I remembered something along those lines, but couldn't remember WHO--and the fact it was Romney is doubly amusing! That SHOULD put that to rest, only I fear it won't...as logic escapes "some" people.


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Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:33 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Romney probably had to take some serious time off from bullying other kids at his private boarding school to go and march with MLK.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Wanna bet ?



The fix, ladies and gentlemen, is in - believe it.
Not that this, yanno, IMPROVES matters any, but I'll take weak and corrupt any day over batshit-fuckin-crazy.

-Frem



Come on Frem.......

Don't be a part in the one single thing that would make us adversaries.

The ONLY reason an unproven and unvetted Illinois politician got in the office was because he "seemingly" and "lyingly" stood for everything against what our previous WORST PRESIDENT EVER stood for.

If you've got some rock solid evidence to confirm my hesitant suspicions that Romney very well may be the foretold Anti-Christ who wins in a landslide because of how bad things have gotten, please let me know. I do not believe we are at the end of days yet though.

And seriously, if you hate Romney so much, for reasons I'm not aware of, I respect that belief. But at least tell me you're working on a 3rd alternate for the throne? As bad as Romney may be, which could be much worse than Obama, I admit, we really can't take 4 years of what Obama can accomplish when he doesn't need to worry about getting re-elected.

PLEASE TELL ME THERE'S A BACKUP PLAN FREM!!!!!!

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Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

I admit, we really can't take 4 years of what Obama can accomplish when he doesn't need to worry about getting re-elected.



Every time I hear someone make this idiotic argument, I just have to shake my head at the state of this nation.

Are you honestly THAT stupid, Jack? Do you think there's some magical power bestowed upon a 2nd-term President that suddenly ties the hands of the entire Congress and Supreme Court and gives that President unbridled and unchecked powers?

You do realize that whether or not Obama has to get re-elected, EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS HAS TO GET RE-ELECTED. You realize that, right?


And then I remember the tea-baggers, and realize that yes, there really are that many Americans who are that fucking dumb.

And in all seriousness, if you're voting Romney because you think he'll be worse than Obama, then you deserve whatever you get. (Hint: It won't be a job! Romney's a firm believer in outsourcing those, yanking all the cash out of companies here at home, and then killing them.)



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:48 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And seriously, if you hate Romney so much, for reasons I'm not aware of, I respect that belief


That's the thing Jack - ain't that Obama is bad, it's that Romney is WORSE, and all the fuckin crazies his presence would then ENABLE would turn us into a third world junta in a hurry, no shit.

As to WHY, I don't have time for the long breakdown, but I'll put it to you short and blunt.
See all these dead kids ?
http://caica.org/NEWS%20Deaths%20List%20of%20Names%20-names%20omitted.
htm

http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/INMEMORIAM.html
That's where Romneys MONEY came from - laundered and leveraged via Bain Capital, and for a fact the fucker OWNS enough of em, under the Aspen Educational Group, whereas his buddies Sembler and Lichfield prettymuch ran WWASPS.

Doubt me ?
Mitt Romney and the Teen Torture Industry
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2007/06/mitt-romney-and-teen-tort
ure-industry.html

That article got Will Grigg RUN OUT OF TOWN ON A RAIL, by his so-called-conservative allies, kicked out of the John Birch Society, socially and politically blacklisted.
And that he ran it, shouted it from the mountain, DESPITE that, is why I respect him so tremendously even when I disagree with him, which ain't all that often.

This more recent piece ties it all together for ya.
Body Bags and Child Torture: Mitt Romney's New Approach to Education
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Body-Bags-and-Child-Tortur-by-Ruth-Hu
ll-120419-192.html

(FYI: George Miller is one of the good guys, I kid not, he's been a damn yeoman on this)

And the rabbit hole goes even deeper, right down to fucking rendition by guys like Strawn.
Want Your Kid to Disappear?
http://legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2004/feature_labi_julaug04.
msp

Strawns a fuckin monster, and a pervert - and I HIGHLY suspect something happened on that long ride ALONE with Valerie Ann Heron to prove her damn near immediate suicide upon being dumped at Tranquility Bay.

Oh, did I mention that not only do kids get pitched their by their parents, but often enough the goddamn Juvie courts send them there - AND some of em get fuckin kickbacks for it ?
These assholes, they got caught, but look real careful at the CHARGES - money, money, money.
Nobody gave a fuckin shit about them kids or what they did to em, this was all about somebody not getting their CUT, is what it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
And they're lying about how far it went back, too - since we have PROOF this shit goes all the way back to 1980 and involves Vision Quest, which hands down had the highest proven death rate of em all.

Not to mention despite WWASPS being crushed, Aspen is still operating and you have RELIGIOUS hellcamps like "Teen Challenge" which is run by the same Assembly of God dominionist scum which were Bush's power base - imagine being sentenced BY A COURT OF LAW here in America to religious indoctrination at a concentration camp that recieves federal funding ?
http://blog.beliefnet.com/lynnvsekulow/2010/01/teen-challenge-and-fait
h-based.html


And don't ever doubt that TC is a nightmare either, DogEmporer ran it down even though only KOS would post it.
http://teenchallengecult.blogspot.com/2008/05/daily-kos-dogemperor-tee
n-challenge.html


Need more ?
First link is a who's who
Second link has a helpful flowchart
http://wwaspdiaries.com/2012/01/22/the-politics-of-the-troubled-teen-i
ndustry
/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/08/cult-spawned-tough-love-te
en-industry


I have ENTIRE GODDAMN FILE CABINETS of this shit, and a whole bloody fuckton of it leads right back to Romney and his money men.
So every time you think of Romney, picture him standing there grinning like that, on top of a pile of dead children....

And then you know why I hate him so.

-Frem

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Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:11 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


1840 all over again.

The Whig candidate, William Henry Harrison - the son of Virginia planters who grew up at Berkeley Plantation on the James (I've been there. Nice place), and whose current home was a comfortable 16 room house in Ohio, was portrayed as a man of the people - the "Log cabin and hard cider" candidate, who had "...settled down in a log cabin to spend his days as a humble farmer...when the people had called upon him in his retiracy to serve them...".

The Whigs portrayed Democratic incumbent Martin Van Buren, the son of a tavern owner who grew up speaking Dutch, and who had no schooling except what he obtained himself, as someone "...brought up in affluence and (who) had lived in luxury and had spent his days...in the fashionable circle..." It was claimed that Van Buren had landscaped the White House lawn with mounds "every pair of which was designed to resemble AN AMAZON'S BOSOM (emphasis in original) with a miniature knoll or hillock at its apex to denote a nipple."

Primaries weren't much better. Whig Thaddeus Stevens accused the Masonic segment of his party of drinking wine out of human skulls, and they accused him of committing blasphemy by giving communion to a dog. (Dogs again. What is it with negative campaigns and dogs?)

There is speculation that Harrison died after only 31 days in office due to the over-energetic pace he set to disprove Democrat claims that he was too old to be a successful president.

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