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AURaptor I have a question...

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Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:12 AM

RIVER6213


Yes, I am calling you out. I have a question, and I want to ask you this question in order to clear up something that has been bothering me about you; this is in regards to something you said a year ago.

My first questions is do you care about the United States of America? Meaning do you care about this country, this land, and its people, and its laws, and its many doctrines, and its many policies? Do you care at all about any of these things?

Also contained in this question regarding its people. Do you care, and understand that everyone who lives here, and is a lawful citizen has rights as put forth by the constitution and the bill of rights?

What DO you BELIEVE AuRaptor?


-River









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Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yes.

Yes.

As for "what I believe", I've already stated my core beliefs in another thread. I'll post again here, so you don't have to go on a snipe hunt....

We all have the same basic rights.

My rights allow me to do what ever I want, so long as my actions don't infringe or hinder anyone else's rights through force of fraud. The same applies to each and every one of us, so far as your 'rights' don't hinder anyone elses. ( So, drugs and 'companioning' ought to be legal )

We belong to ourselves. No country, no political party, no religion, no company owns us. We might say we have no choice to stay w/ the crappy job, but we're kidding ourselves. There are 2 things we have no choice in, being born, and dying. All we do in between is basically up to us.

While the Cosmos is infinitly old, we are here only a finite amount of time. Jimmy Buffett puts it best, I think....

" And still twenty four hours
maybe sixty good years
It's really not that long a stay"

Mankind is new to this planet, and it's a very old planet. Older than most can comprehend.

Lots of life on this little rock, over its time. Lots.


There is, of course, much much more, but that should suffice enough to get the ball rolling.







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Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Meaning do you care about...its laws, and its many doctrines, and its many policies?

Only if they're Republican interpretations & ultra-Conservative policies.
Obviously.

Libruls are not true life forms. They interfere with the Creator.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:43 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Meaning do you care about...its laws, and its many doctrines, and its many policies?

Only if they're Republican interpretations & ultra-Conservative policies.
Obviously.

Libruls are not true life forms. They interfere with the Creator.


The laughing Chrisisall



Chris, when I want your take on my views, I'll smack them out of you.






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Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:05 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

My rights allow me to do what ever I want, so long as my actions don't infringe or hinder anyone else's rights through force of fraud. The same applies to each and every one of us, so far as your 'rights' don't hinder anyone elses.

Then can we call you out on each and every time you suggest or demand otherwise ?
Cause it seems to happen an awful lot.

I'm down with that particular belief, I just haven't never really seen you practice what you're preachin there, in all honesty.

Of course, nobody's perfect, but if you believe this why are you so bad at holding to it ?

And you might note that I happen to be asking that in as civil a tone as I am capable of.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:18 PM

AURAPTOR

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When have I ever not held to that view? Of course, I'm speaking of how Gov't should work. I'd prefer you call me out, as I honestly don't know to what you're referring when you say I "suggest or demand otherwise.".




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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Been over a day now. I guess the answer suffices.






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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:13 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I honestly don't know to what you're referring when you say I "suggest or demand otherwise.".


Aye, there's the rub.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:22 PM

WHOZIT


I have a question for AURaptor: How do you get blood out of a carpet, it was an accident OK, police do'nt need to get involved right? IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!

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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:35 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
do'nt

A contraction of "do not" is don't.

DON'T do it again. Or I WILL call the police.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:42 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I honestly don't know to what you're referring when you say I "suggest or demand otherwise.".


Aye, there's the rub.


The laughing Chrisisall



Not even a hint of trying to explain, huh?

Huh.




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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:02 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Either they don't have an example to hand you, or they are collating a frightening amount of data.

I'm not sure which.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:51 PM

AURAPTOR

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All I require is 1 example.

Just one.




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Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


huh. Calling Out AuRaptor - provides a disappointingly brief exchange, nonexistent evasion or avoidance, diversion or tangent-chasing, how fun is that? Compared to the calling out of the comical opposite camp, this is downright unentertaining.
Kinda refreshing, but still not as engaging. And that liberal-who-claims-to-be-conservative could have served as such a foil.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 12:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)





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Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:37 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I am somewhat dismayed.

AuRaptor has been summoned to this thread, titled after him, ostensibly to enter into honest discussion or debate. Then he is left unanswered.

People who speak favorably of him are insulted with this sock puppet thing, which is presumably to indicate that they are either directly or indirectly controlled automatons. (Direct automation being difficult to prove, and indirect meaning they are just independent souls who have the audacity to agree with your opponent.)

AuRaptor would seem to have responded in good faith only to be insulted without supporting evidence.

AuRaptor opponents may claim their silence on the facts is based on the preponderance of supporting evidence that need not be repeated here... but then why the creation of an entire thread to discuss it? This is just bad form- forwards, backwards, and sideways.

--Anthony



"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 7:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

My rights allow me to do what ever I want, so long as my actions don't infringe or hinder anyone else's rights through force of fraud. The same applies to each and every one of us, so far as your 'rights' don't hinder anyone elses. ( So, drugs and 'companioning' ought to be legal )
In invading Iraq. They weren't bothering us, were they?

Supporting Israel's disproportionate response to Palestinian provocation.

Warrantless wiretapping. Why snoop in on citizens who're doing nothing wrong?

Police brutality. Cops shouldn't be judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one.

Anti-regulation stance. If the right to swing your fist ends at my nose, so does the right to pollute. Right?


This is just off the top of my head.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:04 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
People who speak favorably of him are insulted with this sock puppet thing, which is presumably to indicate that they are either directly or indirectly controlled automatons. (Direct automation being difficult to prove, and indirect meaning they are just independent souls who have the audacity to agree with your opponent.)


JSF has one and only response to any thread here:
AURaptor is so great, he's always right, about everything, you're all wrong, he's beaten you down yet again, blah blah blah.

You don't get many more obvious sock puppets than that.
Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
AuRaptor opponents may claim their silence on the facts is based on the preponderance of supporting evidence that need not be repeated here... but then why the creation of an entire thread to discuss it? This is just bad form- forwards, backwards, and sideways.


Hmmm, wasn't I flamed by a bunch of people recently for showing where he was prepared to murder children for the motherfucking clothes their parent's put them in? Yes, yes I was, I remember it distinctly. Post more evidence where he's being an obvious authoritarian follower? What's the point, its been done so many times it's laughable anyone would need it reiterated. Shit, you quote him saying "towelheads" and you have to spend half a thread justifying how that's a racist comment (and being called racist yourself for daring to point it out).

Most people here know what Frem is talking about. We also know that wasting time dragging up examples is exactly that, because those that have seen this shit from him time and again already accept it, and he and his sock puppets aren't interested in reality, and will deny racism is racism, child murder is child murder or nonsense is nonsense as long its him spouting it.

This thread is entirely redundant though. We know cRapo is a full of shit troll, and the only people who don't accept that, wouldn't no matter what. At any rate the only person responsible for starting this thread, is the person who started it, but really cRapo has no right to complain about attack threads, since he loves starting them so much. DobsonAllianceFan up there loves participating in them when they're aimed at anyone 'he' disagrees with, but is woefully incapable of arguing against (much like his factless master).

Bollocks.

You want proof that Rush Limbaughs parrot is an Authoritarian follower, watch him in any thread. The global warming one's a good example.
First post:
You're wrong, that's an end to it.
Second post:
You're all stupid for not accepting my pronouncement on the subject.
Third Post:
{lies about the replies received, and calls people stupid based on his lies.}

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:06 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
In invading Iraq. They weren't bothering us, were they?

Supporting Israel's disproportionate response to Palestinian provocation.

Warrantless wiretapping. Why snoop in on citizens who're doing nothing wrong?

Police brutality. Cops shouldn't be judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one.

Anti-regulation stance. If the right to swing your fist ends at my nose, so does the right to pollute. Right?


This is just off the top of my head.


He'll probably just lie and say he never said or supported anything like that, just like he claims he wasn't lock step in line with everything that popped out of the Bush Administration.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Sig

Sorry, but you're way off on all those 'examples'. I was referring to INDIVIDUALS, not nations. It's well documented why we went to war w/ Iraq. There are multiple actions by Saddam and or the state which absolutely called for some sort of action. He clearly was guilty of hindering the freedoms of others through force and or fraud. Let's not go down the road of abuses the Gov't has inflicted on individuals, even its own citizens, all in "legal" manner.

Israel's disproportionate response ? You have to be kidding! They didn't carpet bomb Gaza, did they ? Oh, that's right.... they LEFT Gaza and allowed the Pals to live in peace, to which the Pals responded by launching 1000's of rockets into Israeli towns and cities.

Warrantless wire tapping. I'm not convinced any of this actually happened. Try turning the question around.... why WOULD the Gov't waste its time w/ folks who aren't terrorist ? Doesn't make much sense, now does it ? Conversely, you have the State of New York, which has been auditing Rush Limbaugh, a private citizen, for 11 years now, trying to squeeze $$ out of him when he's not even been a resident of New York ( He left back in '97 ) Here, we do have a clear case of the Gov't over stepping the line, and in all likely hood, for purely spiteful, political reasons. Not the proper function of Government, to be sure.

Police Brutality. I agree. Cops should not be judge, jury all in one. I don't see that we differ here.

I'm not 'anti-regulation', but I'm for sensible, pragmatic regulation. Focus on the purpose for WHY there is regulation ,and don't do it to promote a political agenda.






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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:15 AM

CITIZEN


Seriously, you see what I'm talking about?

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


citizen..

Again, you're a liar. ( You're so often a liar, I'm well beyond convinced you're now just a troll )

JSF doesn't so much praise me as simply agrees and points out the errors of others on here ( such as yourself ) That alone is enough to rattle the fragile egos of some here, and it's funny to watch you get all fussy anytime anyone happens to display reason and logic on this forum, which is heavily weighted towards the Left.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Seriously, you see what I'm talking about?



Yes, we can all see that you were, as usual, wrong. But smile away.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:21 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not convinced any of this actually happened.

THIS is how I define unwarranted.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Sorry, but you're way off on all those 'examples'. I was referring to INDIVIDUALS, not nations.
Oh, so you have one set of beliefs for individuals and another set for nations (corporations, religions)?

Does this mean that "authorities" (presidents, prime ministers, CEOs etc) are held to a different standard?

Why?

At some further point I'll get into detail about your other comments. (Which is mainly denial of fact)

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:22 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yes, we can all see

Yes Citizen, I see.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:23 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen..

Again, you're a liar. ( You're so often a liar, I'm well beyond convinced you're now just a troll )

JSF doesn't so much praise me as simply agrees and points out the errors of others on here ( such as yourself ) That alone is enough to rattle the fragile egos of some here, and it's funny to watch you get all fussy anytime anyone happens to display reason and logic on this forum, which is heavily weighted towards the Left.





He just can't help proving me right. Though it's a sure sign of mental illness that he talks about himself in the third person.

Notice how the attack thread starter whose troll threads end up in troll country tries to call others trolls. Also notice, how he attempts to slur others with the accusation of lying, when he is the only proven liar. Also notice that the only people that lend any credence to his mad lies are him and his lying sock puppet.

Notice how he proves me right with his mad desperation and attempts to prove me wrong!

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:27 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Does this mean that "authorities" (presidents, prime ministers, CEOs etc) are held to a different standard?


Yes, as the morphing ethics suit him.
However "wrong" a Republican might be, the Democrats are always "wronger."
And world leaders know better than AU what to do with this planet...unless they don't.


It's useless. There can be no debate. I tried to give AU a platform for his beliefs, and he came out with vague broad jingoism. This is due to the time lag while translating Rush into 'Rapese.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:30 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not convinced any of this actually happened.

THIS is how I define unwarranted.


The laughing Chrisisall



Huh? I honestly don't know what you're sayin here.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:32 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


You've not made your case, offering zero proof to support your charge. My thread ended up in 'troll country' thanks to you and your buddies, who veered it so far off topic, long after I stopped even responding, that it only got there after you REQUESTED it. Self fulfilling action on your part, which goes no where in proving I'm a troll in the least.

You're the troll, and we all know it.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:34 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You've not made your case, offering zero proof to support your charge. My thread ended up in 'troll country' thanks to you and your buddies, who veered it so far off topic, long after I stopped even responding, that it only got there after you REQUESTED it. Self fulfilling action on your part, which goes no where in proving I'm a troll in the least.

You're the troll, and we all know it.


See how he desperately tries to smear me with his brush, but only manages to confirm the truth about himself even more.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Does this mean that "authorities" (presidents, prime ministers, CEOs etc) are held to a different standard?


Yes, as the morphing ethics suit him.
However "wrong" a Republican might be, the Democrats are always "wronger."
And world leaders know better than AU what to do with this planet...unless they don't.


It's useless. There can be no debate. I tried to give AU a platform for his beliefs, and he came out with vague broad jingoism. This is due to the time lag while translating Rush into 'Rapese.

The laughing Chrisisall



Chris, be honest now. I was every bit as specific and to the point as anyone. I think you ( as is the case w/ river ) simply have no legitimate reply to my views, other than to ignore them.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I think you ( as is the case w/ river ) simply have no legitimate reply to my views, other than to ignore them.
Mmmm.... this from the guy who quietly slips out of the conversation when he can no longer support his point... In any case, I DID ask you a question, and I hope you'll answer it. I know it isn't as much fun as
You're a troll.
No, YOU'RE a troll!


but I'd still like an answer.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:47 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Sorry, but you're way off on all those 'examples'. I was referring to INDIVIDUALS, not nations.
Oh, so you have one set of beliefs for individuals and another set for nations (corporations, religions)?

Does this mean that "authorities" (presidents, prime ministers, CEOs etc) are held to a different standard?

Why?

At some further point I'll get into detail about your other comments. (Which is mainly denial of fact)

.



Sig,
I don't know if you are intentionally doing this or if you're even aware of it, but you're needlessly muddying the waters here by asking me 1 question and then applying my answer to another. I was asked some specific questions, and you're transferring my reply to specific situations which I wasn't even addressing. Take a deep breath and relax.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:48 AM

AURAPTOR

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I've NEVER slipped out of a conversation, dammit. Stop making up shit.


If you have a question, then ask it.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:48 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You've not made your case, offering zero proof to support your charge. My thread ended up in 'troll country' thanks to you and your buddies, who veered it so far off topic, long after I stopped even responding, that it only got there after you REQUESTED it. Self fulfilling action on your part, which goes no where in proving I'm a troll in the least.

You're the troll, and we all know it.


See how he desperately tries to smear me with his brush, but only manages to confirm the truth about himself even more.



You continue to not make any case, what so ever.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Sorry, but you're way off on all those 'examples'. I was referring to INDIVIDUALS, not nations.
Oh, so you have one set of beliefs for individuals and another set for nations (corporations, religions)?

Does this mean that "authorities" (presidents, prime ministers, CEOs etc) are held to a different standard?

Why?

At some further point I'll get into detail about your other comments. (Which is mainly denial of fact)

.



No, not " 1 set of beliefs " for one situation and another set for another. I simply was giving you my view of how I live MY life. I don't pretend to expect that the rest of the world lives by my rules. I understand that , for example, folks who believe in Jesus have their own view of the world, but not all who claim to believe see the world the same amongst themselves.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:54 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You continue to not make any case, what so ever.


Notice how it doesn't realise that it is making my case for me.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

No, not " 1 set of beliefs " for one situation and another set for another. I simply was giving you my view of how I live MY life. I don't pretend to expect that the rest of the world lives by my rules. I understand that , for example, folks who believe in Jesus have their own view of the world, but not all who claim to believe see the world the same amongst themselves.
So you have a set of ethics that you hold yourself to, but anything is acceptable AFA other individual or organizational behavior, as long as they don't interfere with you personally?



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Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

No, not " 1 set of beliefs " for one situation and another set for another. I simply was giving you my view of how I live MY life. I don't pretend to expect that the rest of the world lives by my rules. I understand that , for example, folks who believe in Jesus have their own view of the world, but not all who claim to believe see the world the same amongst themselves.
So you have a set of ethics that you hold yourself to, but anything is acceptable AFA other individual or organizational behavior, as long as they don't interfere with you personally?






We all do. Otherwise, no one would be able to get along w/ each other. I don't really know what you're driving at, and I'd kinda like to know where all this is going.

*edit* ok, not EVERYTHING is acceptable. Again, i'm not sure in what context you're speaking.






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Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

We all do. Otherwise, no one would be able to get along w/ each other. I don't really know what you're driving at, and I'd kinda like to know where all this is going. *edit* ok, not EVERYTHING is acceptable. Again, i'm not sure in what context you're speaking.
I guess I'm not sure where you're going, so that's what I'm trying to find out.

Apparently you have another set of ethics that comes into play in a different context. So what context would cause you to shift from the "live-and-let-live/ ethic of non-involvement" to the ethic of involvement, and why?


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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:08 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not convinced any of this actually happened.

THIS is how I define unwarranted.


The laughing Chrisisall



Huh? I honestly don't know what you're sayin here.




I mean that you can always fall back on whether you're convinced or not. I could do that too:
I'm not convinced that we actually landed on the Moon.
I'm not convinced that Hitler had Jews killed in ovens.
I'm not convinced that Saddam invaded Kuwait.


"But there's evidence!"

I never talked to any astronaut, Jew, or dude from Kuwait that could corroborate those "stories."


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by SignyM:
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We all do. Otherwise, no one would be able to get along w/ each other. I don't really know what you're driving at, and I'd kinda like to know where all this is going. *edit* ok, not EVERYTHING is acceptable. Again, i'm not sure in what context you're speaking.
I guess I'm not sure where you're going, so that's what I'm trying to find out.

Apparently you have another set of ethics that comes into play in a different context. So what context would cause you to shift from the "live-and-let-live/ ethic of non-involvement" to the ethic of involvement, and why?


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I'm just tryin' to answer some questions.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:14 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by SignyM:
what context would cause you to shift from the "live-and-let-live/ ethic of non-involvement" to the ethic of involvement, and why?



*channels AU*
Immediate threats to our nation! Like Saddam & his old mustard gas & Scuds!!!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:15 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm just tryin' to answer some questions.


That's not an answer.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The point I'm making is that the claims by the Left that Bush did all the terrible things they claim he did ( which, if TRUE, I'd at the very least consider them to be wrong ) ... are incredible. As in, such claims lack credible evidence.

I wasn't there to see if man went to the moon, but I have seen a shuttle launch. One event does not directly lead to proof that the other occurred, but I do at least have 1st hand account that leads me to concluded that the Apollo missions were plausible. But what I've not seen is evidence which would lead me to believe that , under Bush, or the Patriot act, there was wide spread spying ( warrantless wiretaps ) of the entire US population. Hell, J Edgar Hoover spied on who ever the hell he wanted to, and this was 40-50 years ago! Long before there was a Patriot Act! So saying Bush was doing it , as opposed to any other President, seemed silly. Sure, he could have, so could have Clinton, Bush41, Reagan, Carter...... so what ? Where's the PROOF that W did any such thing ???







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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by chrisisall:

*channels AU*
Immediate threats to our nation! Like Saddam & his old mustard gas & Scuds!!!


The laughing Chrisisall



There are so many things wrong w/ that post, on different levels. I'll just bite my tongue and say nothing.




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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:44 AM

CHRISISALL


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So saying Bush was doing it , as opposed to any other President, seemed silly.

Never said no one else did it, or that it wasn't wrong when they did, just pointing out the abuse of the present (now former) President & administration.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5260892.stm

Why would a U.S. judge rule them illegal if they weren't?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/07/19/bush_blocked_pro
be_ag_testifies
/

Why obstruct if it wasn't nefarious?

http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2008/07/11/473/senate-approves-te
lecom-immunity-bush-signs-expanded-wiretap-powers-into-law
/

Why have a law that covers what you already did if you can't prove it was unnecessary?




The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:46 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:

*channels AU*
Immediate threats to our nation! Like Saddam & his old mustard gas & Scuds!!!


The laughing Chrisisall



There are so many things wrong w/ that post, on different levels. I'll just bite my tongue and say nothing.



I WIN!!!! He has no comeback!!

THIS is why I've almost given up.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:49 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I WIN!!!! He has no comeback!!

THIS is why I've almost given up.


The laughing Chrisisall




Umm.... congrats ?







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